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PADVCmember@OKW
07-17-2002, 02:42 PM
A co-worker just returned from a family vacation is Alabama. On the return drive back to PA they stoped for the "free" tour of a Fairfield Timeshare.

The Fairfield sales person informed them - as part of the sales pitch - that DVC will be moving to the "traditional" time share format for all future DVC resorts. That is, members will be locked into a specific week each year unless they "trade" that week with other members! This was reported to be as a result of the great demand for DVC memberships/property.

Sounds rather far fetched to me especially as other timeshare organizations are moving to the DVC format - including Fairfield!

Has anyone heard of this plan?

Dreamfinder2
07-17-2002, 02:50 PM
I haven't heard this, and I checked on TUG for any such rumor. I'm guessing it's bogus.

I might just mention that about three years ago, before we became DVC members, that we went to a Fairfield sales pitch. It took the better part of an afternoon, and was thoroughly unpleasant. I know Fairfield is the biggest timeshare company, so they must be doing something right - but when the salesperson heard we were also considering DVC, he went ballistic. Could've been that he was having a bad day, but ... we collected our Universal passes and got the heck outta there.

spiceycat
07-17-2002, 03:02 PM
I got told the same thing by Fairfield - came home and called member service - Fairfield wishes DVC would - they are losing business to DVC and this is their way of hiting back so far DVC has done nothing to stop it.

Horace Horsecollar
07-17-2002, 03:10 PM
Timeshare salespeople always tell the truth. ;)

Actually, Fairfield is building a timeshare resort next to Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort as part of the Bonnet Creek project (not to be confused with Disney's Bonnet Creek golf course).

sparkspeak
07-17-2002, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar
Timeshare salespeople always tell the truth. ;)

. . . the WHOLE truth and NOTHING but the truth . . . :rolleyes:

Scott H
07-17-2002, 03:55 PM
quote:

Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar
Timeshare salespeople always tell the truth.




. . . the WHOLE truth and NOTHING but the truth . . .


So help them PROFIT:rolleyes:

ducklite
07-17-2002, 04:02 PM
Tell your coworker I have a bridge for sale...

Anne

nuthut
07-17-2002, 04:29 PM
How much is your bridge, Anne? Does it look like the London Bridge in AZ? I need one for my back yard. How long and wide is it?
Nothing but the whole truth, please......

WebmasterDoc
07-17-2002, 04:48 PM
As already suggested, it's highly unlikely that a sales agent for another timeshare company would have any reliable information about future programs for DVC.

While the claim may seem to downplay DVC in the eyes of some, the concept runs contrary to any resonable understanding of the DVC program. At a time when most timeshares are moving towards a point-based system, it's pretty unbeleivable that DVC- a pioneer in that same system- would take action to return to a system totally opposite.

Many timeshare companies might wish that DVC would make such a move, but expecting the public to swallow the thought could well come back to haunt them in the future.

I'd reassure your co-worker that DVC is alive and well and not likely to make any such change...ever! :)

Pumbaa_
07-17-2002, 05:34 PM
Long live the point system!:cool:

JudithM
07-17-2002, 05:53 PM
In addition to the above comments ... think of the cost involved to legally change DVC information in every state. Do you think members would pay for it :)?

Horace Horsecollar
07-17-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by JudithM
In addition to the above comments ... think of the cost involved to legally change DVC information in every state. Do you think members would pay for it :)?
Actually, they have to file for each new DVC resort anyway, and nobody is suggesting they would convert remaining inventory at BCV to a traditional weekly timeshare format. So I don't think the issue is to "legally change DVC information in every state."

The issue is that Disney has a point-based system that's been successful -- and there's no reason to change it.

lawgs
07-17-2002, 07:02 PM
fairfield just wants you to buy 250,000 of their prime points.....

talk about playing with Numbers.....=))

Cris
07-17-2002, 07:41 PM
Fairfield points system is strange, why don't they use low digit numbers instead of 150,000 points for a 2 bedroom LOL.

erick10520
07-17-2002, 07:57 PM
Sounds to me like a high pressure sales pitch...'The sky is falling, the sky is falling, buy NOW!!!"

Disney Adventurer
07-17-2002, 08:40 PM
We own two time shares. One of them was not one of the smartest things we've done the other was one of the smartest things we've done. We own Fairfield and DVC. I'll let everyone figure out which one was smart and which one wasn't. But let's just apply some logic to the Fairfield sales person's statement.

"This was reported to be as a result of the great demand for DVC memberships/property."

Duh! If there's great demand it must be working, why would they change?

Maistre Gracey
07-17-2002, 08:51 PM
Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), it would not effect current DVC members or resorts.

I could live with that, as I bought DVC based on the resorts that are in DVC now and not what "could be" later. In other words...I would not be effected.

Gotta love rumors...especially when they come from the competition! :cool:

PJMPA
07-17-2002, 08:57 PM
I was wondering what the construction entrance was for next to Carribbean Beach. What is the Bonnett Creek Project? I've never heard anything about it. I thought that location is Disney property.

Horace Horsecollar
07-17-2002, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by PJMPA
I was wondering what the construction entrance was for next to Carribbean Beach. What is the Bonnett Creek Project? I've never heard anything about it. I thought that location is Disney property.
The 482-acre Bonnet Creek Resort is bordered on three sides by Walt Disney World, but it's not Disney property. Fairfield Resorts recently reached an agreement to purchase about 10% of the Bonnet Creek property for a 744-unit timeshare resort. The door is open to the possibility of a future expansion on another parcel with another 350 units.

Click here (http://www.thetimesharebeat.com/2002/ts/june/0628-04t.htm) for the full press release about the new Fairfield timeshare resort that will be next door to the CBR.

MikeScott8
07-18-2002, 07:16 AM
from what I have heard it is more the other way! other timeshares are going to point systems instead of fixed weeks.

Mike

lawgs
07-18-2002, 09:24 AM
exactly Cris.....

seems their claim to fame is .....those who have the most zeros at the end of the game ....win...NOT...


I think it is all a "mental" thing ...when you say 150,000 points ...instead of 150 points.....

we will stick with our low points but HIGH quality.....something which is or was lacking in a lot of Fairfields we have exchanged into in the past.....we pass over exchanges with fairfield like the plague now..

ducklite
07-18-2002, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by nuthut
How much is your bridge, Anne? Does it look like the London Bridge in AZ? I need one for my back yard. How long and wide is it?
Nothing but the whole truth, please......

I'll have my scrupulously honest salesman (who sells timeshares on the side) give you a call to discuss details ;)

Anne

PJMPA
07-18-2002, 08:31 PM
Thanks for the information Horace. I knew nothing about this project.