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dpuck1998
11-05-2009, 09:13 PM
Interesting read....I'm not saying I agree with it, but I do find it over-hyped. But I also can't stand the Apple commercials with PC vs. Mac. They blatantly lie and give out false information. That said, I do like my Mac Book Pro, but I also love my PCs just as much. (Job security)

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108096/brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html?mod=family-love_money

Who needs it for a phone anyway, they should change it to iMobileMac

DaParkers
11-05-2009, 09:16 PM
Interesting. My Blackberry is an excellent phone and a pretty good mobile computer. With that said, I may get an Iphone as a second line just because it seems like a fun device to have.

dpuck1998
11-05-2009, 09:22 PM
Interesting. My Blackberry is an excellent phone and a pretty good mobile computer. With that said, I may get an Iphone as a second line just because it seems like a fun device to have.

I'm in a similar boat, I love my blackberry but would access to more apps. Blackberry apps are getting better however.

kaligal
11-05-2009, 09:30 PM
The thing I love best about the iPhone is the thing that first attracted me to it. I can take my phone and ipod places and only have to carry one thing. :)

I also love the apps, which I didn't even know about when I got the thing.

Checking email and having portable internet access is just icing on the cake.

DisneyKevin
11-05-2009, 10:22 PM
Too funny....

"I think I'm going to hate the iPhone......but I want one."

"It's horrible at handling calls....but I want one."

"The battery life is terrible.....but I want one."

"it's an Apple product and Steve Jobs is evil incarnate....but I want one."

"If you drop it, it breaks and it's expensive to replace....but I want one."

"My XXXXX phone can do nuclear particle physics and create world peace.....but I want one.

"It doesnt fold my laundry or take the lint out of the dryer filter.....but I want one."

The Collective even accepts the dissenters.

Welcome to the world of iPhone.

trekkie2
11-05-2009, 10:31 PM
"My XXXXX phone can do nuclear particle physics and create world peace.....but I want one.

"It doesnt fold my laundry or take the lint out of the dryer filter.....but I want one."

This is totally the phone I want, nuclear particle physics, world peace, housework... throw in a cuddle or two and I'm sold :thumbsup2

DisneyKevin
11-05-2009, 10:33 PM
Jimmy Buffet has a song..."If the Phone Doesnt Ring, It's Me".

Maybe he means the iPhone.....but he wants one.

:lmao:

dpuck1998
11-05-2009, 10:34 PM
That sums it up for me. Although I'm still riding the fence. Do I really want one or just think I want one, is there a difference?

DisneyKevin
11-05-2009, 10:35 PM
That sums it up for me. Although I'm still riding the fence. Do I really want one or just think I want one, is there a difference?

That fence thing is bad for you.:thumbsup2

Matt@WDWR
11-05-2009, 10:35 PM
I'm getting the Droid tomorrow. Not as great as the iPhone but Verizon's network is so much better than AT&Ts.

DaParkers
11-05-2009, 10:57 PM
I'm getting the Droid tomorrow. Not as great as the iPhone but Verizon's network is so much better than AT&Ts.

Not from my experience. I hated Verizon's "Network".

cyberbox2
11-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Beware the iHandcuffs

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/Cscapes/Misc/14DIGI600.jpg


Yes it's a "wall'd garden" but my iPhone has enabled me to consolidate several different devices. Its my:

1: music player
2: video player
3: alarm clock
4: Auto Navigation (GPS)
5: E-mail client
6: internet browser
7: Pedometer
8: digital camera
9: video camera
10: PHONE

and the list could go on. Its not for everyone but I couldn't imagine having anything else.

Matt@WDWR
11-05-2009, 11:25 PM
Not from my experience. I hated Verizon's "Network".

Nationally, Verizon's network is better in most places. Near Atlanta, it is definitely far superior to AT&T.

HeatherH
11-05-2009, 11:39 PM
I agree with Matt. Verizon is VASTLY superior where I live, and I will be upgrading to a Droid later this month when my contract is up. I especially love the QWERTY keyboard, have never been a big fan of touch-screen phones for texting or email. Love the keyboard.

But I am a TOTAL convert on Macs...don't even own one yet but can't wait to get one when my next desktop inevitably fails. HATE Windows with a passion. Apple has converted me, sight unseen, to a Mac.

If Verizon offered an iPhone I might consider it, but I think the Droid is a very good alternative, and even superior in some ways.

dpuck1998
11-05-2009, 11:58 PM
Beware the iHandcuffs

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/Cscapes/Misc/14DIGI600.jpg


Yes it's a "wall'd garden" but my iPhone has enabled me to consolidate several different devices. Its my:

1: music player
2: video player
3: alarm clock
4: Auto Navigation (GPS)
5: E-mail client
6: internet browser
7: Pedometer
8: digital camera
9: video camera
10: PHONE

and the list could go on. Its not for everyone but I couldn't imagine having anything else.

I will not give up my TomTom for any device!!

dpuck1998
11-05-2009, 11:59 PM
I agree with Matt. Verizon is VASTLY superior where I live, and I will be upgrading to a Droid later this month when my contract is up. I especially love the QWERTY keyboard, have never been a big fan of touch-screen phones for texting or email. Love the keyboard.

But I am a TOTAL convert on Macs...don't even own one yet but can't wait to get one when my next desktop inevitably fails. HATE Windows with a passion. Apple has converted me, sight unseen, to a Mac.

If Verizon offered an iPhone I might consider it, but I think the Droid is a very good alternative, and even superior in some ways.

Wow...really? You might want actually try one first.

katscradle
11-06-2009, 01:57 AM
Wow...really? You might want actually try one first.
I have tried it, and I am loving it!
In Canada I am getting the better phone company with the iPhone.
I have to say, I have not been this impressed since the last time I fell in love.
That was 15 years ago. :thumbsup2

safetymom
11-06-2009, 06:25 AM
Don, cross over to the dark side. Get an iPhone. I thought my Blackberry was great but love love love my iPhone. :) :)

sarahsar
11-06-2009, 08:43 AM
Beware the iHandcuffs

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/Cscapes/Misc/14DIGI600.jpg


Yes it's a "wall'd garden" but my iPhone has enabled me to consolidate several different devices. Its my:

1: music player
2: video player
3: alarm clock
4: Auto Navigation (GPS)
5: E-mail client
6: internet browser
7: Pedometer
8: digital camera
9: video camera
10: PHONE

and the list could go on. Its not for everyone but I couldn't imagine having anything else.

What app are you using for it to be a pedometer?

sarahsar
11-06-2009, 09:00 AM
But I am a TOTAL convert on Macs...don't even own one yet but can't wait to get one when my next desktop inevitably fails. HATE Windows with a passion. Apple has converted me, sight unseen, to a Mac.


Wow...really? You might want actually try one first.

While in general I would agree that is very good advice, that's basically what I did. I liked my iPhone so much (after using many other handheld devices in the past, from the old-school Palm Pilot, Handspring Visor, Sony Clie, Pocket PC, all the way up through a Windows Mobile phone) that when my laptop had reached the end of its useful life I got a MacBook Pro. The last time I had used a Mac was for a class at school about 13 years ago (and I hated it then, by the way). I realize it was a little crazy to take such a leap of faith, but that's what happened.

I will say that Apple was smart to emphasize how you can run Windows natively on a Mac these days, and to provide a relatively straightforward way of doing it with BootCamp. That gave me some psychological reassurance that if I needed it I could still use Windows. I had a Windows XP partition initially and now have a Windows 7 partition, but to be honest, about the only thing I do with it is check in to update the antivirus definitions from time to time. I have completely switched over and I have not regretted it for a minute. I know I'm a bit of an obnoxious convert (I used to consider them mac-*****), but so it goes. I am perfectly capable of dealing with all of the Windows annoyances, the registry, all of the maintenance, etc., etc., but honestly, it's a pretty nice life not having to do that stuff. Being a bit of a nerd about this kind of stuff, I have kept up with Windows 7 and I will stay up to date with things that come out, but it's been a great experience actually just _using_ a computer and not spending all of my time tinkering with it.

To bring it back on topic, the iPhone was what did it for me. You can compare the iPhone spec-wise to a lot of other devices out there, and on paper it's not the most impressive. But where it excels is the user interface and how it does what it does. Take multi-tasking, for example. In theory it would be nice to be able to run multiple apps at once (the iPhone will do a few, like the phone obviously, and the iPod). But you can switch between them so quickly it's rarely an issue. In contrast, with my Windows Mobile phone I could run a bunch of things at once, but all that did really was slow everything down. It was just a big mess. There are a few apps that I wish they would make exempt from this (apps like Pandora, for example), but overall I think it's not a big issue.

The other things that is hands-down better on the iPhone than on any other device I've used is the multi-touch screen. It's just terrific. The trackpads on the MacBook Pro are like that also, and at this point I would be very upset to have to give that up.

rotlex
11-06-2009, 09:19 AM
I'm getting the Droid tomorrow. Not as great as the iPhone but Verizon's network is so much better than AT&Ts.

Shows how different areas have different service. Verizon was the worst service I ever had. Sprint, the best as far as coverage and stability. ATT, kind of in the middle, but who cares, it's got the iPhone. ;)

jcb
11-06-2009, 10:09 AM
Don,

Do you think you make this thread longer than the one Nikki started?

I mean, that has to be the record for the length of time "on the fence" about anything (marriage proposals excepted, of course).

Disney Khi
11-06-2009, 10:19 AM
So, is the iPhone not a good phone? I know it is a super cool gadget and fun to have, but is it really a bad phone? DH and I are thinking about getting them, but I would need them to be good phones not just fun things to play with.

rotlex
11-06-2009, 10:37 AM
So, is the iPhone not a good phone? I know it is a super cool gadget and fun to have, but is it really a bad phone? DH and I are thinking about getting them, but I would need them to be good phones not just fun things to play with.

It's as good as any phone I have ever had in the past. Nothing special, as far as the phone function, but it does the job for me.

It's really the "extras" that get you on it. It is the first device I have ever owned, and I'm a computer systems guy by trade, that I can honestly say I consider a hand held computer. So much so, that when my main home machine needed warranty servicing due to a failed hard drive, I didn't even mind being without it for a few days.

katscradle
11-06-2009, 10:37 AM
So, is the iPhone not a good phone? I know it is a super cool gadget and fun to have, but is it really a bad phone? DH and I are thinking about getting them, but I would need them to be good phones not just fun things to play with.

well take it for what it is, but I am in Northern Ontario, Canada.
Sitting in the middle of the bush and I can get a phone call, and
it be clear as a bell.

dpuck1998
11-06-2009, 11:21 AM
Don,

Do you think you make this thread longer than the one Nikki started?

I mean, that has to be the record for the length of time "on the fence" about anything (marriage proposals excepted, of course).

Well, since I don't pay for a phone yet, I haven't really been on the fence for long. Rumor is I have to get my own service starting in Jan and will get a phone "stipend" starting then.

timmac
11-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Well, since I don't pay for a phone yet, I haven't really been on the fence for long. Rumor is I have to get my own service starting in Jan and will get a phone "stipend" starting then.

I'm switching jobs in just over a week, and as such, will no longer have a company-provided blackberry, so I got my iPhone earlier this week (see my two threads about it..)

I had a lot of the same concerns as you, but honestly, I am not looking back at this point. The variety of apps and developer community surrounding it is unreal, even if disproportionate to the number of users.

Don, btw, I also fully agree with your PC vs Mac assessment. My bread and butter, at least at my day job, is Windows based stuff, but even aside from that, I agree the ads are very slanted (of course they are, though) I think it's also pretty remarkable how many people are Windows-haters. The UI between OSX and Windows isn't all _that_ different, and the hardware under the hood has been near-identical for a few years now...

dpuck1998
11-06-2009, 12:10 PM
I'm switching jobs in just over a week, and as such, will no longer have a company-provided blackberry, so I got my iPhone earlier this week (see my two threads about it..)

I had a lot of the same concerns as you, but honestly, I am not looking back at this point. The variety of apps and developer community surrounding it is unreal, even if disproportionate to the number of users.

Don, btw, I also fully agree with your PC vs Mac assessment. My bread and butter, at least at my day job, is Windows based stuff, but even aside from that, I agree the ads are very slanted (of course they are, though) I think it's also pretty remarkable how many people are Windows-haters. The UI between OSX and Windows isn't all _that_ different, and the hardware under the hood has been near-identical for a few years now...

Totally agree. Its just a different GUI at this point. Heck I could install Linux and any flavor GUI for it and have a "mac" for a fraction of the price.

spaddy
11-06-2009, 12:27 PM
I am having iPhone withdrawl today. I am trying to talk my DH into getting one so he "borrowed" mine today to see if he likes it. I am freaking out with this "regular" cell phone of his.:rotfl:

I have to admit I don't like Macs, but I love my iPhone. And I agree that those Mac PC commercials are a little too much. I guess all commercials are a little too much.:rotfl:

Golf4food
11-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Been an iMac user for over a year and plan to get an iPhone in March when our current contract expires and I can upgrade cheaper (and maybe they'll have a better plan by then, too).

Windows people that hate the Mac vs. PC commercials are just upset because Microsoft's marketing team is getting their butts handed to them and they know it. :)

Like someone said earlier, it's nice have a computer and just using the computer, not constantly tweaking it, fixing it, rebooting it, etc.

dpuck1998
11-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Been an iMac user for over a year and plan to get an iPhone in March when our current contract expires and I can upgrade cheaper (and maybe they'll have a better plan by then, too).

Windows people that hate the Mac vs. PC commercials are just upset because Microsoft's marketing team is getting their butts handed to them and they know it. :)

Like someone said earlier, it's nice have a computer and just using the computer, not constantly tweaking it, fixing it, rebooting it, etc.

I don't hate Macs, I use one all the time. The commercials are annoying because they tell blatant lies. If you can't get your mac to lock up then you aren't using it very hard. I locked mine up the day I bought it. While I enjoy my MacBook, I would never pay double or triple the price of a solid PC for the same or similar hardware, just so I can have a mac (mine is a work purchase). Maybe because I know how to use it, but my PCs work just as good as my Mac.

safetymom
11-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Don, I agree with you. I used to work with an Apple rep and he would constantly try to convert me. Told me how they never locked up. Every time I used the MAC I could lock it up.

I don't have to tweak or fix my PC and I am running Vista. I guess I know what I am doing.

sarahsar
11-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Totally agree. Its just a different GUI at this point. Heck I could install Linux and any flavor GUI for it and have a "mac" for a fraction of the price.

True, you could, but I would hazard a guess that most people don't want that hassle (and it is a hassle, though using Linux is far easier these days than it used to be. It's still not something I would suggest to my mom).

User interface preference aside (and I agree they look a lot alike these days), there are real structural OS differences between Windows and OS X. The difference between an OS that uses a registry and one that doesn't is pretty significant, for example. Whether or not that matters to the average user - probably not. But there are more differences than just the GUI.

I think a lot of it boils down to personal preference. I've been using Windows since, well, before it was Windows. I've used every version except Vista and Millenium. I thought XP was actually very good. It was certainly far more stable than any previous version of Windows. Vista, on the other hand, was a disaster. That's where Windows lost me. Windows 7 offers some redemption, but at this point it's not enough for me. My tolerance threshold for certain Windows aggravations is a lot less than what it used to be. Why, for example, on a clean install of Windows 7 would it take me so much effort to get it to sync with a Windows Mobile phone (stock ROM, no funny stuff, 1 year old phone)? Wouldn't you think two stock Microsoft products would play nicely together? It took forever to get it to work. Finally after trying multiple attempts, with multiple reboots of the computer and the phone and reinstalls of the synching software, it "just worked." Ha.

But I think the whole Mac v. PC debate usually ends up being rather pointless. Both have pros and cons. I think in a lot of cases people haven't really used both platforms extensively enough to really compare and are very caught up in the idea of adamantly disliking just the idea of the other one. For me, I'm pretty firmly in the Mac camp these days, but I'll keep an eye on what's going on on the other side. I've switched once and I'm sure I could switch again, but I would have to have a really compelling reason to do so.

dpuck1998
11-06-2009, 03:20 PM
True, you could, but I would hazard a guess that most people don't want that hassle (and it is a hassle, though using Linux is far easier these days than it used to be. It's still not something I would suggest to my mom).

User interface preference aside (and I agree they look a lot alike these days), there are real structural OS differences between Windows and OS X. The difference between an OS that uses a registry and one that doesn't is pretty significant, for example. Whether or not that matters to the average user - probably not. But there are more differences than just the GUI.

I think a lot of it boils down to personal preference. I've been using Windows since, well, before it was Windows. I've used every version except Vista and Millenium. I thought XP was actually very good. It was certainly far more stable than any previous version of Windows. Vista, on the other hand, was a disaster. That's where Windows lost me. Windows 7 offers some redemption, but at this point it's not enough for me. My tolerance threshold for certain Windows aggravations is a lot less than what it used to be. Why, for example, on a clean install of Windows 7 would it take me so much effort to get it to sync with a Windows Mobile phone (stock ROM, no funny stuff, 1 year old phone)? Wouldn't you think two stock Microsoft products would play nicely together? It took forever to get it to work. Finally after trying multiple attempts, with multiple reboots of the computer and the phone and reinstalls of the synching software, it "just worked." Ha.

But I think the whole Mac v. PC debate usually ends up being rather pointless. Both have pros and cons. I think in a lot of cases people haven't really used both platforms extensively enough to really compare and are very caught up in the idea of adamantly disliking just the idea of the other one. For me, I'm pretty firmly in the Mac camp these days, but I'll keep an eye on what's going on on the other side. I've switched once and I'm sure I could switch again, but I would have to have a really compelling reason to do so.

I totally agree! I wouldn't give my mom a linux box. I'm not in the bash Mac camp by any means, I just choose to defend the PC camp from the Mac folk. For me the commercials are annoying and the price of the Mac is way to high. People are buying them however, so I guess like Disney, they haven't priced it too high yet.

For the record, I wasn't comparing the Windows OS v Mac OS. I was comparing linux to the mac

sarahsar
11-06-2009, 03:37 PM
I totally agree! I wouldn't give my mom a linux box. I'm not in the bash Mac camp by any means, I just choose to defend the PC camp from the Mac folk. For me the commercials are annoying and the price of the Mac is way to high. People are buying them however, so I guess like Disney, they haven't priced it too high yet.

For the record, I wasn't comparing the Windows OS v Mac OS. I was comparing linux to the mac

Gotcha! :)

The commercials are deliberately provocative/competitive. Sort of like Microsoft's Laptop Hunter ads or the Droid Does ads. They can all be a bit over the top, I agree.

From a business standpoint, Apple knows what they are doing. They have insanely high profit margins (good for shareholders, not so much for consumers!) A lot of people thought they were nuts not to get into the low-cost netbook market, but it's turned out to be a good decision. Even Michael Dell recently was bemoaning netbooks - great to have inexpensive devices for the consumer, but tough for the companies to make money on them, and even worse when people buy netbooks instead of more expensive laptops (and honestly, for most people, something that does internet and a little word processing is probably adequate). Apple deliberately does not compete at the lower end at all. Actually at the higher end if you price out, say, laptops spec for spec, the "Apple tax" isn't too bad. It does exist, but maybe just $200 or so on a $2,000 laptop. But there are no less expensive options at all, and down at the cheapest Mac ranges you do pay a lot more for the same hardware. It's a business strategy that has worked for them, but it definitely can be pricey for the consumer.

jcb
11-06-2009, 05:10 PM
I tune out the apple ads. I did find it amusing that right as my Windows 7 based pc locked up, on comes an ad for Windows 7 promising that it won't lock up. Once again, the television bore the brunt of my vicious mouth.

I switched to the iphone 3G July 2008. I had used a Treo 750 on Verizon. I can't tell any difference in phone quality. The Treo was driving me crazy with dropped calls and calls where the phone simply didn't ring at all. I don't have any of those problems with the iPhone. I can count the total number of dropped calls on one hand. The "speaker" phone is not great but so what. No doubt, there are "phones" out there that probably sound better than the iPhone. Even so, the iPhone blows them away on so many other levels (IMNSHO).

KatheeME
11-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Don, cross over to the dark side. Get an iPhone. I thought my Blackberry was great but love love love my iPhone. :) :)

My feeling exactly!

Anna114
11-07-2009, 06:52 PM
Wow...really? You might want actually try one first.


And then you'll know the true love of a MAC :rotfl:

rotlex
11-07-2009, 08:42 PM
And then you'll know the true love of a MAC :rotfl:

Absolutely, LOL. There is a reason many of the Windows Admin guys I know, myself included, use Macs at home. ;) (If I actually need to run Windows, I do it through a VM, in either Fusion, or ESX at the office)!

Matt@WDWR
11-07-2009, 09:14 PM
I bought my wife the Droid. Oh God it is awesome. Very equivalent to the iPhone. In some ways it's better.

CastawayJP
11-07-2009, 11:00 PM
I learned something from a self proclaimed Apple Fan Boy today... He has been using a Blackberry for a couple years and he has been going back and forth on the iPhone. He said the one thing that has prevented him from switching so far (besides that he prefers Verizon) is that he receives email on his Blackberry immediately, while on the iPhone you have to set it to check for your messages in certain intervals. And if you set it to check really often your battery life suffers.

While in general I don't need most of my emails instantly, there are times when it becomes more important...

Any iPhone users noticed this problem?

sarahsar
11-07-2009, 11:21 PM
I learned something from a self proclaimed Apple Fan Boy today... He has been using a Blackberry for a couple years and he has been going back and forth on the iPhone. He said the one thing that has prevented him from switching so far (besides that he prefers Verizon) is that he receives email on his Blackberry immediately, while on the iPhone you have to set it to check for your messages in certain intervals. And if you set it to check really often your battery life suffers.

While in general I don't need most of my emails instantly, there are times when it becomes more important...

Any iPhone users noticed this problem?

It depends on what email service you use. What he is referring to is "push" email, something which first gained recognition with the Blackberry, but a lot of devices do it now as well (even the iPod touch).

There is native push email support on the iPhone for Microsoft Exchange, MobileMe, Yahoo, and, more recently, Gmail. With all of these, you get mesages pretty much instantly as they are sent. I can personally vouch for this with Exchange and MobileMe. Both work very well. I love having that functionality. Gmail, working via Google Sync, is basically like Exchange, and I have heard it also works well. I have heard that Yahoo isn't always as quick. That may be a Yahoo issue rather than an iPhone issue, I don't know. I haven't tried it.

For Hotmail users, thanks to the wacky proprietary protocol Hotmail put into place recently, they can't keep their Hotmail accounts synchronized with the built-in Mail app on the iPhone. All of the other services I mentioned use Exchange or IMAP which allow you to keep all of your folders synchronized, have emails that you delete on the phone be deleted from the server, and so on. To use Hotmail on the built-in Mail app you have to use the POP protocol, which is far more limited and doesn't synchronize your folders. There is a 3rd party email app, however, called mBox Mail, which is very good. It gives that full functionality back for Hotmail. I mention it because I am currently helping beta test their next update, which will support push notifications for Hotmail.

There may be other push email options for the iPhone, but those are the main ones I know of. There may also be 3rd party solutions for other email providers.

Incidentally, does anyone know if Blackberry supports IMAP? I remember in the past reading that they didn't, and actually used POP. I always found that strange, because Blackberry is renowned for how it handles email, but I think most these days would agree that POP is an inferior protocol because of the folder and message synchronization issues. I love push email, but if I had to pick between that and IMAP or an IMAP-like protocol, I would take IMAP any day.

Just googled it. Looks like you can get IMAP functionality on a Blackberry with their Enterprise Server, which is more expensive. That would be a deal-breaker for me, but I imagine many people may have that provided by their employers.

CastawayJP
11-08-2009, 07:23 AM
^^Good information, that makes me feel better. I use gmail so it shouldn't be a problem.

spaddy
11-08-2009, 08:12 AM
I learned something from a self proclaimed Apple Fan Boy today... He has been using a Blackberry for a couple years and he has been going back and forth on the iPhone. He said the one thing that has prevented him from switching so far (besides that he prefers Verizon) is that he receives email on his Blackberry immediately, while on the iPhone you have to set it to check for your messages in certain intervals. And if you set it to check really often your battery life suffers.

While in general I don't need most of my emails instantly, there are times when it becomes more important...

Any iPhone users noticed this problem?

I use Yahoo and Exchange with my iPhone and get email very quickly. I actually turned the notification noise off because I check it the second I get an email.

spaddy
11-08-2009, 08:15 AM
Just googled it. Looks like you can get IMAP functionality on a Blackberry with their Enterprise Server, which is more expensive. That would be a deal-breaker for me, but I imagine many people may have that provided by their employers.

My very small company just upgraded to Exchange so we don't have the money for the Enterprise server. Exchange works perfectly with my iPhone. Other employees with Blackberrys have to deal with POP.

sarahsar
11-08-2009, 08:49 AM
^^Good information, that makes me feel better. I use gmail so it shouldn't be a problem.

You should be fine with Gmail. You might look up Google Sync - I haven't used it personally, but apparently it also lets you sync calendar and contacts also, and gives you the benefits of an Exchange server for free. All of that should work just fine with the iPhone.

CastawayJP
11-09-2009, 08:43 AM
You should be fine with Gmail. You might look up Google Sync - I haven't used it personally, but apparently it also lets you sync calendar and contacts also, and gives you the benefits of an Exchange server for free. All of that should work just fine with the iPhone.

Is that an iPhone app or is something that I install on the computer it syncs with?

sarahsar
11-09-2009, 08:47 AM
Is that an iPhone app or is something that I install on the computer it syncs with?

Google Sync is the protocol Google uses for mail, contacts, and calendars. It's not a separate app. You would set it up within your Mail app. I just use regular Gmail on my iPhone -I haven't set up the other stuff because I use something else for that. I would look it up on Google to get instructions as to how to do that, or maybe someone else here has done it.

Madi100
11-09-2009, 09:20 AM
Too funny....

"I think I'm going to hate the iPhone......but I want one."

"It's horrible at handling calls....but I want one."

"The battery life is terrible.....but I want one."

"it's an Apple product and Steve Jobs is evil incarnate....but I want one."

"If you drop it, it breaks and it's expensive to replace....but I want one."

"My XXXXX phone can do nuclear particle physics and create world peace.....but I want one.

"It doesnt fold my laundry or take the lint out of the dryer filter.....but I want one."

The Collective even accepts the dissenters.

Welcome to the world of iPhone.


Wow. I just realized that the iphone and men are a lot alike.