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wdwpins
10-19-2009, 10:00 AM
If Disney went smoke free completely (not allowed even designated smoking areas) as a private business decision, would you be more inclined to go, less inclined to go or neutral about it?

I'm assuming WDW restaurants are smoke free because of FL law--not sure what laws are for CA, Japan, Hong Kong or Paris.

Any thoughts?

Cherinva
10-19-2009, 10:22 AM
Well, I'm a smoker (in process of cutting back and quiting..goal is for the end of the year to be completely free of cigarettes), but it wouldn't change my thoughts about going there at all. However, I don't think it would be a smart move on Disney's part to do such a thing, I fear it would offend some smokers and it could keep them away. I agree with not smoking in the hotel rooms or eating establishments, but in a separate area just for smokers.

cap'njack.
10-19-2009, 10:30 AM
I'm assuming WDW restaurants are smoke free because of FL law--not sure what laws are for CA, Japan, Hong Kong or Paris.


Same for Disneyland Paris. No smoking in enclosed public areas such as restuarants, hotels and bars. Both parks also have smoking areas in them however they are not enforced. I'm not sure how strict they are in WDW but in DLRP they are not enforced at all.

LisaZ1113
10-19-2009, 10:31 AM
Well, I'm a smoker (in process of cutting back and quiting..goal is for the end of the year to be completely free of cigarettes), but it wouldn't change my thoughts about going there at all. However, I don't think it would be a smart move on Disney's part to do such a thing, I fear it would offend some smokers and it could keep them away. I agree with not smoking in the hotel rooms or eating establishments, but in a separate area just for smokers.

I stumbled upon this post, and I have been quit free for almost two years now....If you really want to quit, check out this website. Quitnet.com

I never would have quit without it!!

As far as non smoking in WDW..I'm surprised you are even still allowed to smoke at all, even in designated areas.;)

Matt@WDWR
10-19-2009, 10:34 AM
I"m not a smoker but it wouldn't make me more inclined to go. I rarely notice smoking at WDW anyways. But if they banned it, I'd have to deal with even more cranky people so for goodness sakes, let em light up!

KatheeME
10-19-2009, 10:39 AM
Disney would then be completely magical! I am not trying to incite anyone or anything, but not have to wash my hair and/or clothing after going by a smoking area would be heavenly, and yes, I stay as far from them as I can, but as we all know, not everyone follows the rules and the smoking areas are close to some things in WDW as well.

Renysmom
10-19-2009, 11:12 AM
popcorn:: :surfweb: popcorn::

catycatcat4
10-19-2009, 11:12 AM
I wish disney would no offense to anyone but i think smoking is Very very very very very stupid gross
The smoke from the smoking areas travels to the non smoking areas and i hate that.

FireDancer
10-19-2009, 11:50 AM
I'm all for it and think it is insurance related. By instituting a smoke free policy here at work, which includes not only the building but the entire grounds, we received a health insurance discount. If any employee wants to smoke they must now leave the grounds and anyone caught will face immediate termination no questions asked.

With as many employees as Disney has I'm sure they have a much larger incentive than we do so I am not all that surprised.

As far as how it will effect my trip down, it won't. I only rarely noticed the smoke and knew to avoid it but as far as a health-related policy goes the more smoke free areas the better.

wishspirit
10-19-2009, 12:40 PM
They have designated smoking areas in Disneyland Paris, but they aren't enforced. People light up anywhere outside (luckily not in queue lines), which means ash flying everywhere and spluttering people behind them!

However I do not like the idea of WDW banning smoking. I personally do not smoke, but some people do, and that is their choice. I want others to enjoy their holiday as much as I enjoy mine, if that means that they light up, they can go ahead (as long as it is a smoking zone or their children aren't around). It doesn't bother me.

Plus could you imagine the rant Pete would have about this! :eek:

SamIAm21
10-19-2009, 12:47 PM
I'm a non-smoker always have been, but I don't believe the parks should go completely smoke-free. I believe it would limit many people from attending the parks. I find these days that most smokers are reluctant smokers and would really rather not smoke, but let's face it, they are addicted. From what I have heard, quitting is the hardest hurdle they face. As long as cigarettes are legal and available, then accommodations need to be made for smokers.

Also, the smoking areas are easy to avoid if you are a non-smoker, except for one. It is directly across from Aloha Isle. It is a large seating area that could be used for those who just purchased their Dole Whip. I just wish they could relocate that one to another part of Adventureland.

JB2K
10-19-2009, 12:52 PM
If Disney went smoke free completely (not allowed even designated smoking areas) as a private business decision, would you be more inclined to go, less inclined to go or neutral about it?

I'm assuming WDW restaurants are smoke free because of FL law--not sure what laws are for CA, Japan, Hong Kong or Paris.

Any thoughts?

I am always more inclined to frequent non-smoking establishments (good thing I live in a state where that is the "norm"!) -- I don't want my young son subjected to the same cloud of smoke that I constantly had to deal with as a child.

As for Disney, California's no smoking laws are on a par with places like FL, NY, and NJ.

I can't comment on Paris, but things may run a little differently in Hong Kong and Tokyo, as (from my travel) smoking still plays something of a role in the cultures of China and Japan.

Decorated_Dust
10-19-2009, 01:02 PM
As a non-smoker (although I prefer NEVER-smoker) who has watched both of my parents struggle (and fail) to quit, I'm mixed. On one hand, there are the smokers who will be going batty in the park b/c they can't get a cigarette. On the other hand, there are the non-smokers who might as well be smokers with all of the fumes they inhale. The smoking areas at Disney are barely noticeable, so I would say just keep them and make everybody happy. However, as someone who practically threw a party when FL banned smoking in restaurants, I'm having a hard time being against this.

Also, I don't really see Pete ranting about this, especially when more nefarious things are going on. Pete has said on the Podcast that his right to smoke does not negate someone else's right to breath clean air. However, we'll see. I do love myself a rant. ;)

Beckypooh1972
10-19-2009, 01:05 PM
I am a non-smoker and the smoking policies of a vacation destination would impact my decisions to go there (I'll never go to Las Vegas again since there is way too much smoke there). At Disney I don't see smoking as that prevalent. I think they should keep the outdoor designated areas for smokers out of fairness to them. I do wish smokers would comply more with the areas they are allowed to smoke in; it's frustrating to try to eat a meal at an outdoor restaurant at Disney and have someone smoking within close proximity (just because you are outside, that does not mean your smoke can't choke someone up.)

mainegal
10-19-2009, 01:24 PM
I sat on a bench near Expedition Everest to wait for people to catch up with me.

Cough, cough... I looked around with my annoyed face at the people that were smoking. Then I saw that I was in a smoking zone!

I quietly got up and moved away.

Thumper_Man
10-19-2009, 01:51 PM
DW and I are non-smokers for almost 3 years now. :cool1: We decided to quit together. When we were smokers, we would respect the areas designated for smokers and wouldn't smoke outside these areas. I agree that more smokers need to smoke in the designated areas and have respect for those who don't smoke.

IMO as an ex-smoker, if Disney went completely smoke-free, then people who smoke will be less inclined to go. After the first day or so of constantly having to leave the park to go some place where they are allowed to smoke, the trip may not be as enjoyable for them; therefore it would be easier for them to just not go. I would say leave the designated smoking areas, but enforce the smoking policy a little more.

kaligal
10-19-2009, 01:58 PM
I wouldn't care much, but I'd go less often because I frequently travel with another Disney geek and no way in hell she'd go if she couldn't smoke. The woman needs her cigarettes.

WaltD4Me
10-19-2009, 02:23 PM
I don't think the OP meant Disney is doing this, I think the question was "What if?"

I'm not sure what I would do. I am a smoker. I have no problem with the no smoking policies in the restaurants or even the resort rooms, but if you couldn't smoke on property anywhere? I don't know. When I go to Disney I actually don't smoke very much, but I do like to sit in a designated area and have a cigarette occasionally, mostly when I'm waiting for something or someone. I think I would be re-thinking things if I knew there was no where I could smoke. I don't need stress added to my vacation.

kafitty
10-19-2009, 02:56 PM
As long as cigarettes are legal and available, then accommodations need to be made for smokers.

Not really a good argument, since alcohol is banned in MK. Obviously it's a bit different, but Disney doesn't "need" to make accommodations for anyone's addictions.

Even as a nonsmoker who HATES cigarettes (they make me soooo sick, even just breathing in the smoke :sick:), i too am a little divided on this one. i don't see anything wrong with designated smoking areas, although the smoke itself obviously can't respect those boundaries.

Buttercup26
10-19-2009, 03:06 PM
I just wish Disney would enforce the existing smoking areas a little better. My dd has asthma and cigarette smoke is a big trigger. We always encounter a few smokers who seem to think it's okay to have a quick smoke while walking from one attraction to the next.

It's easy to avoid the smoking areas, but impossible to avoid the guy smoking less than 2 feet away walking the same direction you are.

monkeyknuckler
10-19-2009, 03:38 PM
It wouldn't matter either way for me. I've never really noticed the smoking sections, so they must be out of the way. We went to WDW with a family member who is a smoker, and I never even saw him smoke... so smoke 'em if you got 'em.

wdwpins
10-19-2009, 04:57 PM
Not really a good argument, since alcohol is banned in MK. Obviously it's a bit different, but Disney doesn't "need" to make accommodations for anyone's addictions.

Even as a nonsmoker who HATES cigarettes (they make me soooo sick, even just breathing in the smoke :sick:), i too am a little divided on this one. i don't see anything wrong with designated smoking areas, although the smoke itself obviously can't respect those boundaries.

Good point. While on most public beaches in the US people can smoke but on no public beach can you have something alcoholic, a legal product to anyone 21 or older.

katscradle
10-19-2009, 05:48 PM
I and my DH are both smokers. We have tried to quit several times, I more times than he. However quitting when you are on vacation due to the fact that it would not be allowed is not the way to do it.
We always go to the designated areas to smoke.
I have found over the last two years that WDW has fewer smoking areas.
They are also more out of the way.
We would never light up in a place that was not designated for that purpose.
However if WDW were to due away with the smoking areas completely they would lose us as customers.
Non smokers have a right to their smoke free space and to beathe clean air.
I am a smoker and have a right to an area for that as well.
I as a smoker know that some smoking areas are in bad locations and should be moved.

Hollie
10-19-2009, 05:54 PM
I don't think the problem lies in smoking being allowed so much as smokers who are too lazy to go/find out where to go to the designated smoking areas. People should be allowed to smoke all day in the specified areas and non-smokers should be allowed plenty of room to steer clear of them.

Becx N Gav
10-19-2009, 05:55 PM
I agree with Katcradle - I am hoping to give up smoking but am currently a smoker.

But I just wanted to say I would like to see them try to ban smoking in DLRP (I agree it should be better enforced there) - it's a whole different board game in Europe (it varies country by country and obviously a whole nation doesn't have the same opinions) but I think it would upset a lot of visitors - as Kate said they seem to think they can smoke wherever but banning it :sad2:

lindsey clare
10-19-2009, 07:39 PM
two things:
1. i don't remember much smoking going on at Tokyo Disney. smoking is still pretty widespread in Japan so either they banned it at Disney or we were just lucky.
2. i would be happy if Disney banned smoking completely, but then i haven't been to WDW so i don't know what the conditions are like. if people stick to the smoking areas then i don't really have any grounds to complain.

what are the general rules for smoking these days in the US? i know it goes by state so i'm assuming it differs. here in Sydney you can't smoke indoors anywhere (unless it your own private property of course). maybe casinos are the exception. but not bars or pubs. which is great for us non-smokers! gone are the days of coming home stinky and waking up to a pillowcase smelling of stale smoke - yuck. :headache:

Tarzan513
10-19-2009, 08:02 PM
I am not a smoker or ever have been one, but I certainly don't think you should make the parks non smoking. However, I think that they should enforce the rules regarding the smoking areas. That being said, people are going to have different preferences than I do, but because they're different, doesn't make them wrong. For example, I don't like over eating and over eating is unhealthy, so maybe Disney should minimize their food portions so people don't over eat... from the sounds of Kevin's review, maybe thats what is going on over at the new Cat resteraunt :scared1:. Disney is not in the business of making people more healthy. They can try to educate people on different topics, which they do (importance of exercise, recycling, being respectful to people, etc.), but they shouldn't try to force habits on anyone. Anyway, I am all for them keeping the smoking areas, just enforcing the rules. That way for those of us who do not like being around smoke can stay clear of those areas.

Just my 2 cents

WDWtraveler27
10-19-2009, 08:09 PM
I would like that very much

PinkBudgie
10-19-2009, 08:20 PM
I have always been a non smoker and have asthma so I can't be around smoke. I think it would make things WORSE if they got rid of the smoking areas. People who smoke, need to smoke. Most are respectful and will find the proper place to do it. If there is nowhere for them to go, more of them will just "sneak" and do it wherever they can. They would figure at most, a CM will come by and ask them to stop and at least they were able to get in a little smoke.

wdwpins
10-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Many have said they wouldn't go to WDW anymore if it went completely smoke free.

Interestingly, many visitors, both domestic and international, who fly within and to the US have to be on smoke-free flights, as designated by US law. That hasn't seemed to stop people from flying within the US or to the US. UK smokers, I'm assuming, would have to go at least 9 hours w/o a cigarette in order to get to Orlando or Sanford airports from the UK, no?

tlcoke
10-19-2009, 11:14 PM
I am currently at WDW this week. I am noticing a lot of smokers ignoring the Designated Smoking Areas and lighting up any where they want as long as they are outdoors.

There was someone walking down Main Street in the MK puffing away. The worst offenders seem to be in the resorts. Rather than going to designated smoking areas, they are lighting up anywhere as long as they are outdoors (bus stops, walking around the resort...)

simonkodousek
10-20-2009, 06:58 AM
My level of inclination to go to Disney would not be dependent on whether or not the property is smoke-free, but rather the quality and value of the product offered.

I just got back from a short weekend trip to Universal Orlando, staying at the Portofino Bay; I was absolutely blown away by the sheer quality of the resort. It seemed like everything was thought of, something not apparent in Disney resorts.

Example: To take a shower at the Wilderness Lodge, I had to bend down backwards to avoid hitting my head on the showerhead, while the showerhead at Portofino Bay was about a foot higher than my head, and I'm 6' tall.

I liked that fact that the Portofino Bay never seemed to close. It always seemed like there was something to do, even at the late hours of 2 or 3 AM. The Wilderness Lodge started closing down around 10:30 PM, and the quick service restaurant was completely shut down and locked by 11, so using refillable mugs was not a late-night option.

Those are just a few of the examples of why I enjoyed my stay at Portofino Bay so much more than my stay at the Wilderness Lodge, even though both were fantastic trips. :)

JB2K
10-20-2009, 07:47 AM
The smoking areas at Disney are barely noticeable, so I would say just keep them and make everybody happy.

The non-smokers DO have a point -- if you've ever spent a lot of time on WDW, you will notice many visitors from other countries who do not observe the rules (in 2009, I observed a lady walking through the entrance of AK, of all places, in her designer clothes with a super-long-one in her hand).

JB2K
10-20-2009, 07:56 AM
Many have said they wouldn't go to WDW anymore if it went completely smoke free.

Works for me -- less cranky people to deal with during peak travel seasons.

And for those of you who drink the "Disney's gonna lose money if they go smoke-free" Kool-Aid, the same thing was said about the restaurant business in those states who were considering such bans (last I heard, prior to the current economic climate, business was booming).

FWIW, as a mimimum (and a start), the WDC should consider implementing a no-smoking ban at MK and Disneyland Park, first (as there are similar alcohol bans already in place at these parks).

After all, didn't smoking contribute to Walt Disney's death (he died of lung cancer at age 65)?

katscradle
10-20-2009, 10:26 AM
I am currently at WDW this week. I am noticing a lot of smokers ignoring the Designated Smoking Areas and lighting up any where they want as long as they are outdoors.

There was someone walking down Main Street in the MK puffing away. The worst offenders seem to be in the resorts. Rather than going to designated smoking areas, they are lighting up anywhere as long as they are outdoors (bus stops, walking around the resort...)


This is not good.
I follow the rules and go to a designated smoking area, so sould they.
It people like this that cause things to be taken away.
Like smoking areas.

katscradle
10-20-2009, 10:33 AM
The non-smokers DO have a point -- if you've ever spent a lot of time on WDW, you will notice many visitors from other countries who do not observe the rules (in 2009, I observed a lady walking through the entrance of AK, of all places, in her designer clothes with a super-long-one in her hand).

Works for me -- less cranky people to deal with during peak travel seasons.

And for those of you who drink the "Disney's gonna lose money if they go smoke-free" Kool-Aid, the same thing was said about the restaurant business in those states who were considering such bans (last I heard, prior to the current economic climate, business was booming).

FWIW, as a mimimum (and a start), the WDC should consider implementing a no-smoking ban at MK and Disneyland Park, first (as there are similar alcohol bans already in place at these parks).

After all, didn't smoking contribute to Walt Disney's death (he died of lung cancer at age 65)?

Are you saying that you as a non smoker have rights?
But a smoker should not have any rights!
This is the way I read your posts.
I am sure there are things you do that you would not like taken away from you.
If it's legal, then everyone has a right to partake.
It may not be your choice, but don't make that choice for everyone.

baby1disney
10-20-2009, 11:07 AM
I am currently at WDW this week. I am noticing a lot of smokers ignoring the Designated Smoking Areas and lighting up any where they want as long as they are outdoors.

There was someone walking down Main Street in the MK puffing away. The worst offenders seem to be in the resorts. Rather than going to designated smoking areas, they are lighting up anywhere as long as they are outdoors (bus stops, walking around the resort...) To be fair..to a certain point..there are some smoking areas that are near bus stops(i.e. Animal Kingdom Lodge)

Works for me -- less cranky people to deal with during peak travel seasons.

And for those of you who drink the "Disney's gonna lose money if they go smoke-free" Kool-Aid, the same thing was said about the restaurant business in those states who were considering such bans (last I heard, prior to the current economic climate, business was booming).

FWIW, as a mimimum (and a start), the WDC should consider implementing a no-smoking ban at MK and Disneyland Park, first (as there are similar alcohol bans already in place at these parks).

After all, didn't smoking contribute to Walt Disney's death (he died of lung cancer at age 65)?OK...there's too much to say here..so I'm just goin to let your post go.

Now..PLEASE do not flame me for anything I may say because this is coming from a smoker's view point...and I see both sides of the story. Let's begin..shall we??

Smoker's point:

I have been smoking since I can remember. I'm 29 yrs old and I would say at least the last 16yrs of my life I have smoked. Do I know it's wrong? Of course I do!! Do I know what kind of damage I can do to myself and the people around me? Yes!! I do! Does that mean that I'm careless about it?? No!! I'm not!!

DH knew when we first met that I had smoked. He's not a smoker. He had the choice of not dating me because of this, but he chose otherwise. Has anyone ever thought about that ALOT of people who come Disney may not know it's smoke free or where the smoke areas are?!?!??:confused3 I know that this has happened to me twice: once in DHS and at AKV. Both times, between the guests and CM's, I had extremely nice people let me know where I needed to go smoke. I had no clue about the smoking laws there. As a matter of fact, the story at AKV was pretty nice.

The security guard on duty notice I was looking lost. I had just left the bar and wanted to take my drinks outside and sit near the pool area and smoke. I looked all around for a smoking area and couldn't find it. I asked someone else and the directions they gave me were completely whacked!! So, I sat down at one of tables that twoeards the back and away from other people..just in case I wasn't in the right spot. Sure enough, about two puffs later, the security guard came up. He started laughing a little. He asked if I knew where the smoking area was and I said no, that this was my first time here and I had asked around, but got lost. Turns out, I was only about 100 feet from it. I felt dumb as heck, but the security made me feel fine. He could've been a total butt, but he said there was no reason to be. He said that I would be surprised just how many people get confused and don't know where to go. But, now that I know, I won't make that mistake again.:thumbsup2

All I'm saying is that for me, I like to have a smoke with my drink. To be able to go down to the bar and order a drink and then take it outside and have a smoke was great for me!! Especially because that was "my time" for me. After a day with the family and kids, that's how I unwind for about an hour or so. Then, I go back to the room and enjoy the rest of my evening with DH and DS..if they're not passed out by the time I come back.

Sometimes, as in my case, smoking for a smoker is just about relaxing and enjoying that 5-10min window to yourself. When I'm with my family(who none of them smoke) I tend to not smoke around them...as much. I think I don't even go thru a whole pack when I'm down there!!;) But, it's nice to know that when I want to, I can.

Non-Smoker's Point:

The whole thing with second hand smoke is dangerous and I totally understand that. Believe it or not, I don't like coming home smelling like a chimmney either. I totally understand a non-smoker's point of view. I'm just saying that everyone needs to have something that they can vent to or at, relax them, or whatever it may be.

What if Disney posed a ban where they took out drinking because too many people aren't being responsible when at the parks, the resorts, restaurants, etc????? I'm sure THAT would go over reaaal well. It's the same thing!! People need to take responsibility for what they do. The smokers that abide by the rules shouldn't get punished becasue of they few people that don't. The same could be said for drinkers who act stupid when they drink. There's alot more responsibile smokers/drinkers than not.

If Disney wanted to put a building...like the size of bathroom for guests in the park(at least half of it) for smokers to go into, I'd be all up for that. That way everyone gets what they want and the non-smokers wouldn't have to smell the smoke as they walk by.

I'm sorry this is soooo long but, I could go on for hours about this. I'm a person who sees both sides of the fence and I think this is one topic that everyone should have it their way. There's ALWAYS a solution to every problem, just depends on how we/you/I/us handles it.:goodvibes

JB2K
10-20-2009, 11:42 AM
Are you saying that you as a non smoker have rights?
But a smoker should not have any rights!
This is the way I read your posts.
I am sure there are things you do that you would not like taken away from you.


I'm not going to fall into your trap, so I will say only this -- everyone has the right to breathe clean air. Period.

FireDancer
10-20-2009, 12:15 PM
Are you saying that you as a non smoker have rights?
But a smoker should not have any rights!
This is the way I read your posts.
I am sure there are things you do that you would not like taken away from you.
If it's legal, then everyone has a right to partake.
It may not be your choice, but don't make that choice for everyone.

Disney has the right, as a private company, to set the smoking policy that they would like. No one has the right to ignore those rules unless they are deem unconstitutional and even then only after the case has made it's way through the courts.

The term right is very often misused in cases like this.

Yes, smoking is legal. At the same time, like many other legal activities, it is allowed to be restricted in certain areas or circumstances. Smoking, prescription drugs, drinking, sleeping with consenting adults, and driving a vehicle are all legal. There are laws and policies for all of these things however that can limit the circumstances in which these legal activities are consumed or performed.

This isn't an endorsement of the parks going smoke free but a logical look at one aspect of it.

WaltD4Me
10-20-2009, 01:28 PM
Disney has the right, as a private company, to set the smoking policy that they would like. No one has the right to ignore those rules unless they are deem unconstitutional and even then only after the case has made it's way through the courts.

The term right is very often misused and in cases like this.

Yes, smoking is legal. At the same time, like many other legal activities, it is allowed to be restricted in certain areas or circumstances. Smoking, prescription drugs, drinking, sleeping with consenting adults, and driving a vehicle are all legal. There are laws and policies for all of these things however that can limit the circumstances in which these legal activities are consumed or performed.

This isn't an endorsement of the parks going smoke free but a logical look at one aspect of it.

I have to agree. Disney is a private company and has the right to make it's own rules. Several years ago McDonalds here went non-smoking, long before it was a law. I had no problem with that. Their restaurants, their rules. I don't agree with the laws that are passed because I feel if you own your own business it should be your decision what is best for your business.

That being said, I would be very surprised if Disney went totally non-smoking. I don't think it would fix the main problem anyway. Disney now states smoking is only allowed in designated areas, yet people still say they see people smoking while walking down Main Street. Do you think those people are going to follow the non-smoking rule any better? Disney does need to better enforce the smoking area only rule, it will be much easier to enforce that rule by directing someone to a smoking area than to tell them they cannot smoke at all.

cocowum
10-20-2009, 03:35 PM
If Disney went smoke free completely (not allowed even designated smoking areas) as a private business decision, would you be more inclined to go, less inclined to go or neutral about it?

I'm assuming WDW restaurants are smoke free because of FL law--not sure what laws are for CA, Japan, Hong Kong or Paris.

Any thoughts?

I don't think it would have an influence on how often we go but I would absolutely love it if the parks went completely smoke free. :love: :love: :love:

Iggipolka
10-20-2009, 05:37 PM
I don't think it would have an influence on how often we go but I would absolutely love it if the parks went completely smoke free. :love: :love: :love:

I totally agree with this. What bugs me is that a number of the pretty areas with nice benches and nice views, are smoking areas. The area in Liberty Square is a great example. It's nice and shady with pretty trees, very relaxing..and it's a smoking area. Ugh. Bums me out.

Fluufy
10-20-2009, 05:52 PM
that would be a horrible business decision for disney. a lot of people who tend to control most of the family financial uses (aka parents) smoke, my father included. if they dont have some place for them to go when they need one it wont exactly be a "magical day" and if those parents arent happy theyre far less likely to buy stuff for their kids, which of coarse means less money for disney, which they would rather not let happen.

i hope i explained that the way i meant to and you all get it

PrincessBetsy
10-20-2009, 06:11 PM
I totally agree with this. What bugs me is that a number of the pretty areas with nice benches and nice views, are smoking areas. The area in Liberty Square is a great example. It's nice and shady with pretty trees, very relaxing..and it's a smoking area. Ugh. Bums me out.


Yeah, that bothers me too. There is a really nice area with tables near the Plaza overlooking the water and rose garden that is a smoking section. I would love to take a sundae and eat it there, but I just can't stand all the smoke. It also really bothers me when people in the parks decide not to go to the smoking areas and just smoke where ever they feel like it. My brother has asmtha and can't handle smoke, so it makes it even worse when someone is walking near us smoking away.

I would love it if disney went smoke free, but it wouldn't influence my going there. It would probably only influence those who are smokers, since it would be quite a hassel for them to find a place to smoke outside of WDW.

Philip Colmer
10-21-2009, 10:44 AM
I've been to both Paris and Hong Kong this year. I agree with an earlier poster that Paris has smoking areas but it is not enforced. I saw smoking going on all over the place.

Hong Kong, by comparison, also has smoking areas but I definitely saw a cast member ask a smoker to move when he sat down in a non-smoking area and lit up.

I absolutely have no problem with Disney having non-smoking areas but they need to enforce them. Having customers just smoke anywhere they like isn't fair to the non-smokers; we typically end up looking like the bad guy if we ask a smoker to take their cigarette elsewhere.