View Full Version : Tux on semi-formal night? What are M & M wearing that night?
GoofyDisney
07-11-2002, 09:56 AM
We loved dressing up in tuxes and formals on our last cruise. We did it both nights. But now that the second night is officially "semi-formal", can we still wear tuxes the second night? Is anyone else wearing their tux again?
Plus, on the first formal night Mickey and Minnie were in sailor outfits. The second formal night, they were in their formal clothes. This madea big difference in our pictures with them. Is it still this way with them, or on semi-formal night are they not in their formal clothes?
Thanks bunches!
Halloween Magic 2002!
Dave_from_Marietta
07-11-2002, 12:28 PM
Mickey was in tux and tails and Minnie was in a sequined ball gown for both formal and semi-formal nights on our cruise, but that was over a year ago. Any recent cruisers?
PinClubs
07-11-2002, 12:42 PM
You know it is funny...
I went on my first Disney cruise just last week. It was a 3-day cruise that ended on July 7th. I was married at the Wedding Pavilion on July 1st and then went on the cruise for our honeymoon. Pictures of the wedding can be found here -http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/
We had a wonderful time, but I was surprised to find that you are required to dress for dinner. I was not aware of this until I read through the material in our stateroom. Outside of the double-breasted suit that I wore for our wedding I only packed shorts and T-shirts (after the wedding I quickly shipped my suit back home).
Personally, I think it is silly to go on a cruise in the middle of the summer and be expected to wear dress clothes. Spending thousands of dollars to be inconvenienced doesn't make any sense to me.
I did decide to buy a polo shirt at Treasure Ketch (at an inflated price) since I only had T-shirts. I am not completely barbaric :)
I can't wait for our 7-day anniversary cruise. I won't pack dress clothes for that one either.
Jeff (Buddy Bear) Langdon
Corl4
07-11-2002, 12:55 PM
GoofyDisney,
You can definately wear your tux on semi-formal night too! We saw all sorts of dress on both formal and semi-formal nights...from tuxes and long gowns to shorts!!! I wore my long gown both nights although DH didn't take a tux he wore his suit both nights. Mickey and Minnie are dressed as Dave From Marietta described...Mickey in tails and Minnie in a whilte ball gown. Here's a tip...if you wait until the semi-formal night to get pictures, you can have them taken with M & M together..on formal night it was either with one or the other!
Personally, we loved dressing up for dinner...can't wait to do it again!!
Beth
Windermere
07-11-2002, 10:47 PM
DH wears his tux on both nights. Why not? Otherwise he would have to pack another outfit anyway. I wear 2 of my dressier dresses on those nights.
As for dressing up for dinner, I've been on Carnival and RCCL and dressing up was required on both of those cruises. In fact there was a formal tux night on the RCCL 3 day cruise to Nassau. So I'm not sure why everyone complains about DCL being too 'formal' at dinner.
PiperG
07-11-2002, 10:55 PM
Do you gals pack two different outfits for formal and semi-formal night? I am very happy to pack two outfits. As a matter of fact, I am hoping to raid the stores after New Year's for big sales in preparation for our Jan 25th cruise.
Just wondering what others do?:rolleyes:
LorraineinTO
07-12-2002, 06:36 AM
My husband wore his tuxedo for both formal and semi-formal nights. He also wore it for dinner at Palo's.
As others have replied, the dress at the formal nights and semi-formal nights varied. However we did not see anyone in shorts but perhaps that was because we were in Lumiere's.
ducklite
07-12-2002, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs
You know it is funny...
I went on my first Disney cruise just last week. It was a 3-day cruise that ended on July 7th. I was married at the Wedding Pavilion on July 1st and then went on the cruise for our honeymoon. Pictures of the wedding can be found here -http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/
We had a wonderful time, but I was surprised to find that you are required to dress for dinner. I was not aware of this until I read through the material in our stateroom. Outside of the double-breasted suit that I wore for our wedding I only packed shorts and T-shirts (after the wedding I quickly shipped my suit back home).
Personally, I think it is silly to go on a cruise in the middle of the summer and be expected to wear dress clothes. Spending thousands of dollars to be inconvenienced doesn't make any sense to me.
I did decide to buy a polo shirt at Treasure Ketch (at an inflated price) since I only had T-shirts. I am not completely barbaric :)
I can't wait for our 7-day anniversary cruise. I won't pack dress clothes for that one either.
Jeff (Buddy Bear) Langdon
Jeff, In your cruise docs that you would have received prior to the cruise it has info on the dress codes, I'm just not sure how you could have missed this. Also, the three day is much more casual than the seven, which has a formal and semi-formal night, where tuxes or dark suits are the norm. Of course if you choose to not dress up you can always dine in your cabin or at the buffet. Please don't ruin the formal atmosphere for fellow cruisers by completely disregarding your hosts requests. If you do'nt want to be inconvenienced, you might also want to think about cruising on a different line, there are some which are more casual and do'nt have formal nights at all.
Anne
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 08:51 AM
In response to ducklite
When we received our documentation, I didn't read it; just put it away for safe keeping. I mean, what was to read, our only concern was customs and the necessary identification, which we called about.
We chose Disney Cruise line because it was Disney. What could be more magical than that? We saw the video tape with children and Disney characters running around and having fun. To me that was the point. Being with your kids and having a great time. At least that is what I thought Disney was all about.
Someone mentioned to me that you can go to Palo's restaurant and have an adult only dining experience. I had to ask myself...why???? Did I bring my children 1,500 miles, so I could find a way to ditch them? Perhaps I could stay at home, do the same thing and save a lot of money.
Of course I wouldn't because I am not that kind of parent. I love my children and spend every minute with them in Walt Disney World, so why would I do something different on a cruise ship.
Choose another cruise line????? Why are some lines not as good at separating their parents from their kids? You guys are definitely missing the point of what I thought a Disney Cruise should be. It is true...adults can take the fun out of anything. Formal and Semi-Formal nights...spare me!
Lastly...don't ever tell me how to dress!!
Respectfully,
Jeff
MICKEYKART
07-12-2002, 09:08 AM
I couldn't agree more with PinClubs!! If I didn't want my children with me on vacation, I wouldn't pay three thousand dollars to take them with me. Disney is a family experience for my family and me.
I don't wear formal attire to dine at Disney World and I wish I didn't have to on the cruise. Formal attire and a family vacation don't go together in my mind. My children couldn't care less about a formal experience. I wish Disney would poll their cruise customers to see how many would prefer informal dining. I'm sure they would get a large positive response. With 3 dining rooms on each ship, they could arrange to make at least 1 dining room informal for those who prefer it. I know there is a buffet, but I shouldn't have to stand in line to eat with the prices I am paying!!
TnRobin
07-12-2002, 09:17 AM
Just a reminder that this thread is about dress for formal/semi-formal night. It is not a thread on whether you should have each and evey dinner with your children. Or whether you should make use of the kids club. Please remain on topic of the original question.
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 09:26 AM
MICKEYKART - Thanks for your response. I think dividing up the dining areas is an excellent idea. Actually, that is what I thought the point of Palo's was. If you want to dress up and igore your kids then go there.
TnRobin - You are absolutlely right and maybe a new thread should be started, but I thought that the people in this discussion were so far removed from what Disney is (except for on the cruise line I guess) that I had to say something.
Jeff
Originally posted by MICKEYKART
Formal attire and a family vacation don't go together in my mind. My children couldn't care less about a formal experience. I wish Disney would poll their cruise customers to see how many would prefer informal dining. I'm sure they would get a large positive response. With 3 dining rooms on each ship, they could arrange to make at least 1 dining room informal for those who prefer it. I know there is a buffet, but I shouldn't have to stand in line to eat with the prices I am paying!!
True that some vacations don't go hand in hand with a formal evening...such as a week at the beach in NC...but they do go with others...such as a cruise. When you start looking around at cruising as a vacation choice, almost every website and brochure has prominent info about formal evenings.
Disney does offer alternatives for those who do not wish to follow the dress code. You may not prefer a buffet, the many choices on deck or room service, but Disney can't please all of the people all of the time. I think they honestly do try, tho!
My children are SO looking forward to formal night. My girls can't wait to buy their gowns and get dressed up! And all our guys are renting tuxes. How often do you get a photo opportunity like that?? I consider it just another Disney perk rather than a hinderance...just mho.
Originally posted by PinClubs
Actually, that is what I thought the point of Palo's was. If you want to dress up and igore your kids then go there.
TnRobin - You are absolutlely right and maybe a new thread should be started, but I thought that the people in this discussion were so far removed from what Disney is (except for on the cruise line I guess) that I had to say something.
Jeff
Jeff, you seem to be equating "dressing up" with "ignoring your children". I'm not sure what these two things have in common at all?? :confused:
We have 9 children, and I don't believe they feel ignored in the least. Heck, we're taking 5 of them with us on our honeymoon! :crazy:
I think I have it in me to dress up and give them attention at the same time...maybe I can even walk and blow bubbles while doing it! :rolleyes:
GoofyDisney
07-12-2002, 09:46 AM
PiperG
Last year I took the same formal skirt, and put two different sequined tops with it for the different nights. This year I have two formal gowns I had picked up after Christmas. So, I will be taking two gowns. DH has one tux with two different ties.
Glad to hear your responses about semi-formal night. We will be dressing up both nights then.
And I think that answers my question. Thanks TN Robin.
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Fawn:
Disney does offer alternatives for those who do not wish to follow the dress code. You may not prefer a buffet, the many choices on deck or room service, but Disney can't please all of the people all of the time. I think they honestly do try, tho!
Please correct me if I am wrong, but there are four Restaurants on the Magic - Parrot Cay, Animator's Palete, Lumiere's and Palo's. If I understand you correctly, on formal nights, all four restaurants would have a dress code....that sounds fair!.
Also posted by Fawn:
Jeff, you seem to be equating "dressing up" with "ignoring your children". I'm not sure what these two things have in common at all??
No I think you can dress up your children and care for them too, but none of the children in my neighborbood would be interested in a tux or gown, so I certainly wouldn't put them through the inconvenience if I was inclinded to dress up. Which of course I wouldn't. I guess some children like to dress up
Bottom Line: To each his/her own, but don't shut me out of all the restaurants. Sounds a little selfish to me.
Jeff
ducklite
07-12-2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs
In response to ducklite
When we received our documentation, I didn't read it; just put it away for safe keeping. I mean, what was to read, our only concern was customs and the necessary identification, which we called about.
We chose Disney Cruise line because it was Disney. What could be more magical than that? We saw the video tape with children and Disney characters running around and having fun. To me that was the point. Being with your kids and having a great time. At least that is what I thought Disney was all about.
Someone mentioned to me that you can go to Palo's restaurant and have an adult only dining experience. I had to ask myself...why???? Did I bring my children 1,500 miles, so I could find a way to ditch them? Perhaps I could stay at home, do the same thing and save a lot of money.
Of course I wouldn't because I am not that kind of parent. I love my children and spend every minute with them in Walt Disney World, so why would I do something different on a cruise ship.
Choose another cruise line????? Why are some lines not as good at separating their parents from their kids? You guys are definitely missing the point of what I thought a Disney Cruise should be. It is true...adults can take the fun out of anything. Formal and Semi-Formal nights...spare me!
Lastly...don't ever tell me how to dress!!
Respectfully,
Jeff
I chose to cruise rather than spend my days in a theme park as I wanted a somewhat more formal atmosphere at meals. This is what DCL requests. On the tape there are shots of people dining wearing jackets and formal attire.
I never suggested that kids be seperated from their parents, some kids LIKE to dress up. Not everyone who cruises DCL is a parent, or has young children. I don't see what respecting the DCL request of formal apparel on a couple of nights has anything to do with parenting. No one said you needed to ditch your kids.
Personally I don't care HOW you dress, as long as your aren't affecting my experience--and you showing up in shorts and a polo shirt on formal night does affect the atmosphere, thus the experience, for all the other cruisers. I took the time to read the information DCL sent, which was very specific about the requested dress. I find it offensive that now that you are aware of the requests for formal attire on the seven night you plan on blatantly disregarding it.
Anne
Lisa F
07-12-2002, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs
Bottom Line: To each his/her own, but don't shut me out of all the restaurants. Sounds a little selfish to me.
It may sound a little selfish to you, but the "I'm going to do what I want to do" attitude regardless of the atmosphere and experience that 3000 other cruisers bought into sounds a LOT selfish to me. The fact that you spent thousands doesn't mean more than the fact that anyone else also spent thousands. That line of argument reminds me of some of the brattier kids that were in my group when I was a camp counselor ten years ago who would say things like "I can do whatever I want to do, my m ommy pays your salary."
The reason that all of the diningrooms are formal at the same time is because you have a bunch of milling around time before dinner where you can take pictures with the characters etc. It would be silly to have 1/3 of the people at a particular dinner seating in formal dress while the rest are in resort casual at say, the captain's cocktail party. Like I said, it's about an atmosphere and about an experience that many people actually enjoy and do not consider to be a burden.
Dressing up and formal dinners are as much a part of the "cruise experience" as kids are a part of "the Disney experience". I think Disney has found a wonderful way to integrate the more adult time-honored traditions and atmosphere of cruising on an elegant ship with family entertainment and fun. But you saying that having formal nights on a cruise is selfish is like me saying that all of you people who want to bring your kids to a great honeymoon spot like WDW are selfish. Sounds ridiculous, no?
Lisa
ducklite
07-12-2002, 11:04 AM
Great post Lisa!
Anne
[Originally posted by PinClubs
Please correct me if I am wrong, but there are four Restaurants on the Magic - Parrot Cay, Animator's Palete, Lumiere's and Palo's. If I understand you correctly, on formal nights, all four restaurants would have a dress code....that sounds fair!.
You are right, they would all be formal two nights out of 7. However, on those evenings, you have the choices of Topsiders (where you can be served and don't have to wait on line), room service or one of the many snack spots on deck. I think Disney is trying to be very fair here.
Originally posted by PinClubs [/i]
No I think you can dress up your children and care for them too, but none of the children in my neighborbood would be interested in a tux or gown, so I certainly wouldn't put them through the inconvenience if I was inclinded to dress up. Which of course I wouldn't. I guess some children like to dress up
ALL the children? You are assuming your opinion is the only opinion anyone could possibly have. This is a big world, with lots of ideas...don't be so judgemental.
Originally posted by PinClubs [/i]
Bottom Line: To each his/her own, but don't shut me out of all the restaurants. Sounds a little selfish to me.
Bottom Line: Disney is your host, and has requested proper attire at meals, with formal wear only two nights out of 7. Get into the "Disney" spirit, lighten up and have some fun!
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Lisa F
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It may sound a little selfish to you, but the "I'm going to do what I want to do" attitude regardless of the atmosphere and experience that 3000 other cruisers bought into sounds a LOT selfish to me.
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You are absolutely right, but considering that you give me no dining options except cafeteria stlye dining - hot dogs, hamburgers, etc I think you are being unreasonable.
I am currently on the phone with Disney Cruise lines complaining about this issue. I don't care if you have formal night every night, but sharing the restaurants would be just a nice thing to do.
Jeff
ducklite
07-12-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs
Originally posted by Lisa F
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It may sound a little selfish to you, but the "I'm going to do what I want to do" attitude regardless of the atmosphere and experience that 3000 other cruisers bought into sounds a LOT selfish to me.
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You are absolutely right, but considering that you give me no dining options except cafeteria stlye dining - hot dogs, hamburgers, etc I think you are being unreasonable.
I am currently on the phone with Disney Cruise lines complaining about this issue. I don't care if you have formal night every night, but sharing the restaurants would be just a nice thing to do.
Jeff
Topsiders is far from cafeteria style dining.
Anne
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Fawn:
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ALL the children? You are assuming your opinion is the only opinion anyone could possibly have. This is a big world, with lots of ideas...don't be so judgemental.
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Yes, all the children. I play with them all on a regular basis. We, (my wife and I) took "ALL" the children to see Lilo & Stitch the day it was released and then took them to the mall for a pin trading meet. We do things like that often. I know "All" the children in my neighborhood very well.
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Bottom Line: Disney is your host, and has requested proper attire at meals, with formal wear only two nights out of 7. Get into the "Disney" spirit, lighten up and have some fun!
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I don't care if you want to dress up on all 7 days, just give me a dining option too. I "am" trying to lighten up, it is you that is trying to keep things formal, stuff, pretentious and boring.
Jeff
ducklite
07-12-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs I don't care if you want to dress up on all 7 days, just give me a dining option too. I "am" trying to lighten up, it is you that is trying to keep things formal, stuff, pretentious and boring.
Jeff [/B]
I don't find dresing up to be any of the above. I think it's FUN!!!
One of the reasons I wanted to cruise was to be able to dress up, which is something I rarely have the chance to do.
Anne
LenDVC92
07-12-2002, 11:44 AM
I brought a tux and a sports jacket on the 7-night. I wore the tux on both formal and semi-formal nights, and the sports jacket with a shirt and tie and Dockers for Lumaire's and Palo. It didn't make sense to carry suit for semi-formal night if I was already lugging a tux. As others have reported there was a wide range of dress among the guests on both evenings. I’m glad that I don’t have to wear a suit and tie to work every day anymore, but it is fun to dress up once in a while.
On the other topic: My children are not adults, and my wife and I are not a children. We don't always like to do the same things or need to be together all the time, even on vacation. I don't consider letting them do what they enjoy while I do something I enjoy "ditching" them. We can do things as a family sometimes, and on our own at other times. It's just as appropriate to have Palo be "adults only" as it is not to allow parents on the teen beach (as I found out when I got caught trying to get a peek at what was going on... they were definitely having more fun than us, btw).
Len.
StaceyA
07-12-2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by LenDVC92
On the other topic: My children are not adults, and my wife and I are not a children. We don't always like to do the same things or need to be together all the time, even on vacation. I don't consider letting them do what they enjoy while I do something I enjoy "ditching" them. We can do things as a family sometimes, and on our own at other times. It's just as appropriate to have Palo be "adults only" as it is not to allow parents on the teen beach (as I found out when I got caught trying to get a peek at what was going on... they were definitely having more fun than us, btw).
Len.
I, being an adult with no kids, appreciate that Palo's is Adult only because my Husband and I can go and have a quiet dinner without any kids.
That is funny that you got snagged peeking in on the teens....LOL!
Lisa F
07-12-2002, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by PinClubs
I "am" trying to lighten up, it is you that is trying to keep things formal, stuff, pretentious and boring.
I think dressign up on a disney cruise, while formal, is anything BUT stuffy, pretentious or boring. As a kid I remember raiding my mom's closet with my friends (and raiding their mom's closets as well). We'd dress up, play with the makeup, wear high heeled shoes that were too big and have a grand old time. Then there were the special occasions when we got to dress up for REAL. We had fancy clothes in our sizes, got to wear ribbons in our hair. My best friend loved his suit and the fact that he had a "real tie" and not one of those clip on things. The problem, though, is that most of the time we were going places where we were expected to sit quietly and behave like adults.
As I said before, the disney cruise is the perfect blend of time honored cruising traditions with family fun and entertainment. Kids get to have that perfect blend of playing dress up and getting to be like adults (something every kid I know well loves to do, whether it is play house or pretend you are a teacher or something else) while at the same time still being allowed to be kids. They can dress up and go to a fancy "broadway show" only the show doesn't deal with adult themes and doesn't require kids to sit still for 2 or more hours at a time. THey can laugh and giggle and have a great time watching it, and it's OK.
They can go to a fancy dinner in a fancy dining room in their fancy clothes, but they are still not only allowed but ENCOURAGED to be kids. They can eat the type of food they want (whether that is "kid food" or whether they are adventurous and want to try "adult food). They can take pictures with mickey and minnie who are also in their formal clothes. It's all a big show, but everyone is a part of it... and all that anyone is asking is that you don't purposefully do what you can to diminish that show for others.
I'm not saying you have to wear a tux or a gown. There were plenty of families where the father just wore a suit (and I'm sure they were not all $5000 armani suits) and the mother wore a fairly simple dress or pantsuit. People were dressed at all levels of formality, but everyone had made an effort and everyone we observed seemed to be having fun with it.
As far as dining options if you just don't feel like dressing up, I was under the impression that topsiders was an option. I remember reading a post from more than one person saying that they serve the same menu as in the diningroom... you pick up your appetizer at the buffet on the way in (or a few if you want to try a few) and then a server brings you an entree and dessert. Are they no longer doing that?
Lisa
ruvidu
07-12-2002, 12:35 PM
and I hope our dinning partners do. In three cruises we have always noted that most people try to go by the suggested dress code. Yes, some people do read their information paks when they arrive. You always see some folks though that you assume just have no class or couth. I was thinking about the non-formal resturant idea and the only way it would work is to make Palos the t-shirt and shorts place to go on formal and informal night. You could either make a reservation ahead of time or the head server direct you there if you show up at your designated dinning area dressed unappropiatly. You could have a great meal and dress like you were at a hot dog stand.
:p No, don't flame me, I was just kidding about Palos but I do get upset when I see a minority trying to impose their veiws and opinions on a majority. Same bunch that smoke in non-smoking, park in fire lanes and handicap spaces.
LenDVC92
07-12-2002, 12:58 PM
Why is it that we seem to have this same discussion about every two weeks on this board, but I never hear anyone making such a big deal about restaurants on land. I know of lots of places where it would be very inappropriate to dine wearing shorts and a tee shirt. Maybe I've missed it, but I can't recall reading a post on this or any other WDW board saying the Disney is being unfair because the require a jacket to eat at Victoria & Albert's. Most people seem to understand the rules and make their choices accordingly. Why should a cruise vacation be different?
Lisa said it best when she called it a show and we all get to play the part of elegant cruisers on a classic ship. It kind of ruins the scene if some of the players are way out of costume.
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 01:51 PM
Len wrote:
Why is it that we seem to have this same discussion about every two weeks on this board, but I never hear anyone making such a big deal about restaurants on land. I know of lots of places where it would be very inappropriate to dine wearing shorts and a tee shirt.
Good point Len...
The difference is that WDW has numerous choices in and out of the theme parks, so if Victoria and Albert's and 10 others for all I care require a jacket that is fine with me. I will eat somewhere else, but on the ship you don't have as many choices and the formal dress people are monopolizing them and don't seem to care about the poeple who don't need to put on airs.
Like I said before, I don't care if you have formal dining every night; just leave a choice from one of the major restaurants.
Lisa F wrote:
The reason that all of the diningrooms are formal at the same time is because you have a bunch of milling around time before dinner where you can take pictures with the characters etc. It would be silly to have 1/3 of the people at a particular dinner seating in formal dress while the rest are in resort casual at say, the captain's cocktail party. Like I said, it's about an atmosphere and about an experience that many people actually enjoy and do not consider to be a burden.
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Apparently some elitists on the cruise don't want to associate themselves with the "little people". :)
Jeff
ducklite
07-12-2002, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by PinClubs
<snip>but on the ship you don't have as many choices and the formal dress people are monopolizing them and don't seem to care about the poeple who don't need to put on airs.
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Apparently some elitists on the cruise don't want to associate themselves with the "little people". :)
Jeff
As has been stated, you do have a choice, you can dine at Topsiders or in your cabin. Both places will serve you the same menus as are in the restaurants. Look at the poll going on on this forum, overwhelmingly people LIKE the dress code. You are the one who is trying to impose yourself on the majority, not vice versa. And now you are simply being quite rude by insinuating that those who prefer to follow DCL's guidelines are elistist and snobs.
You seem to equate dressing up with snobbishness, and think that those of us who LIKE to dress up are "elitists".
I prefer to think that those who follow DCL's guidelines and respect their dress requests are being polite, and those who choose to ignore the hosts requests are either rubes or boors. How would you feel if people had gone to your wedding in shorts and t-shirts? It has nothing to do with putting on airs, contrary it's simply common courtesy.
Anne
TnRobin
07-12-2002, 02:16 PM
Ladies and gentlemen,
You are reminded that personal attacks against other posters is in violation or the Posting Guideline. Everyone here is entitled to his/her own opinion. And the are just that opinions.
Lisa F
07-12-2002, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by PinClubs
Apparently some elitists on the cruise don't want to associate themselves with the "little people". :)
Wow, I actually take the time to explain an alternate point of view without name calling and this is the response I get? Well, if by "elitist" you mean someone who has good manners, wears appropriate clothes in appropriate situations and doesn't flaunt their money (saying I paid THOUSANDS for this experience) as a reason that they should get their own way no matter how it affects other people, then sign me up for that club.
:rolleyes:
Lisa
jaletu2000
07-12-2002, 04:09 PM
Don't want to get in the cross fire - just want to ask a question. Would it be appropriate for my DH and two sons to just wear dark suits for the formal dining? It would be really difficult to get tuxs and bring them with us from Memphis - not to mention the cost. I was thinking dark suits for the formal and lighter suits for the informal. For myself - it would be easy to purchase a dressy skirt and formal tops. I agree that dressing up is fun but don't want to go over board for a three night cruise.
StaceyA
07-12-2002, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by jaletu2000
Don't want to get in the cross fire - just want to ask a question. Would it be appropriate for my DH and two sons to just wear dark suits for the formal dining? It would be really difficult to get tuxs and bring them with us from Memphis - not to mention the cost. I was thinking dark suits for the formal and lighter suits for the informal. For myself - it would be easy to purchase a dressy skirt and formal tops. I agree that dressing up is fun but don't want to go over board for a three night cruise.
If you are going on the 3 night cruise, there isn't a formal and semi formal night, that is just on the 7 day.
Unless they changed it, but I don't think so, you would just need the nice clothes (dress and suit) for the night you dine in Tritons.
Stacey
Dave_from_Marietta
07-12-2002, 04:16 PM
jaletu2000 -
As StaceyA said, the 3-night cruise is definitely more formal than the 7-night cruises. I wouldn't even bring a tie on the 3-night... just a sportcoat to wear over an open-collared golf shirt. As for the ladies... it's a great opportunity to wear that sun-dress that you only wear on vacation!
Horace Horsecollar
07-12-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by jaletu2000
Don't want to get in the cross fire - just want to ask a question. Would it be appropriate for my DH and two sons to just wear dark suits for the formal dining?
On the 7-night cruise, dark suits are fine for the formal and semi-formal nights. That's what the majority of men wore on the 3/23/02 cruise. There were also plenty of men in tuxedos, and there were a surprisingly number who just wore dress shirts and slacks, sometimes without even wearing a tie -- and a few who either lost their luggage or made no effort what-so-ever.
Originally posted by jaletu2000
I agree that dressing up is fun but don't want to go over board for a three night cruise.
Actually, there are no formal nights on the 3- and 4-night cruises. There's no need to bring any suit. For men, something along the lines of Dockers or other slacks and a collared shirt (polo shirt or sportshirt, long- or short-sleeved) is fine every night. For Triton's and Palo, your DH could just wear a sportcoat over that.
Originally posted by ducklite
How would you feel if people had gone to your wedding in shorts and t-shirts? It has nothing to do with putting on airs, contrary it's simply common courtesy.
Anne
Hmm...interesting point. I believe it was mentioned that someone wore a suit for his wedding? Why would you do that if you don't enjoy wearing suits? Because it was the appropriate and proper thing to do for a semi-formal wedding, I would imagine?
How would you feel if one of your wedding guests showed up in shorts and an old T-shirt. Would you feel that was appropriate...that it showed good manners? I, for one, would be insulted! :(
I believe part of this problem may be that you don't understand that Topsiders IS a nice choice as an alternative. It does not serve cafeteria food nor cafeteria style if you don't wish. And if you order room service, you can take your tray anywhere up on the decks and have a lovely meal under the stars. This is NOT a second class choice here.
Dave_from_Marietta
07-12-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by PinClubs in a seperate, but related thread
<b>There is no question that this is a matter of personal taste which will never be agreed upon...</b>That's very true, Jeff. And as others have mentioned, this is a real "hot button" topic that comes up a lot. I've learned to hold my tongue in most of these discussions because the emotions can run so high and very few opinions get changed in the end.
<font size=3><b><i>That being said...</i></b></font>
I took a look at your wedding photo album. Very nice. Very elegant. Every bit the picture-book fantasy that I'm sure you (or Missy) had hoped for. You're pretty handsome for an old guy (just kidding... I'm not that much younger than you). And your bride is <b><i>gorgeous!!!</i></b>.
For anyone interested, here's a good <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/Damon/23.htm"><font color=blue>photo of Jeff and Missy</font></a>. And I <b><i>love</i></b> this <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/Damon/21.htm"><font color=blue>photo of Missy and her daughter</font></a>.
I hope you had as good a time as it appears you did in your <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/"><font color=blue>album</font></a>.
jaletu2000
07-12-2002, 04:38 PM
Hooray! So glad I asked my question and thanks you guys for replying so fast! I mis-read the thread to mean all cruises had formal nights - LOL. Well, we are definitely on the right cruise. My DH will be the most relieved. Don't know if we'll ever get to do the 7-night cruise eventhough it sounds great but at least I know what to do about clothing! Thanks again for the info!
Originally posted by Dave_from_Marietta
For anyone interested, here's a good <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/Damon/23.htm"><font color=blue>photo of Jeff and Missy</font></a>. And I <b><i>love</i></b> this <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/Damon/21.htm"><font color=blue>photo of Missy and her daughter</font></a>.
I hope you had as good a time as it appears you did in your <a href="http://www.pinclubs.com/wedding/"><font color=blue>album</font></a>.
Well, my goodness, Dave...he does look rather dashing in his suit, doesn't he?? ;)
PinClubs
07-12-2002, 05:22 PM
Okay, Okay...
Thanks for the compliments and laughs along the way (Fawn, Lisa, Dave, et al.).
You guys win!! It is appropriate to wear dress clothes when protocol dictates. That is a given. It is just not my preference to dress. All I was asking for was one restaurant, so I guess Topsiders it is.
I just spoke with my new bride although it wouldn't be our first choice we will adhere to any dress code and fit in with the others ( he says, begrudgingly, while kicking his sneaker in the dirt)
Let us move on to a less heated topic.
Happy Cruising All,
Jeff
Dave_from_Marietta
07-12-2002, 08:23 PM
Jeff -
I know I <i>ought</i> to let your last post be the last word on this topic, but...
You may want to consider at least bringing your suit along anyway. From what I saw in your wedding album, you look pretty sharp in a suit and I'm sure your new bride would be <i>stunning</i> in a little black number. You'd both enjoy the photo op with Mickey in his tux and tails or Minnie in her ball gown. If you bring the suit, at least you'll have that option.
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