Is this True Re: MNSSHP

[SamIAm21]

Another podcaster mentioned in a recent podcast that if you are attending a MNSSHP and you arrive early at about 4:00 or 5:00 p.m. that you are sort of corralled into one area of the park as they clear the rest of the park. He mentioned Liberty Square. Is this true? I have never heard this before and has me rethinking arriving early. I really don't want to spend a couple hours in Liberty Square. I could do that easily in Fantasyland, but not Liberty Square.

DISCLAIMER: I may have totally misunderstood him, but this is what I thought he was saying.

[TSWJan78]

When we went a few years ago we had dinner around 4:30 at Peco's Bills and then went to the party.. I did not feel coralled

[Halloweenqueen]

No, that is wrong. The ticket allows you to enter at 4pm. The party starts at 7pm. You get a colored wrist band for the party. You can go anywhere you want.

[spaddy]

I entered the Christmas Party at 4PM in 2007 and was not corralled at all. They do sort of corral the people to make them leave the park when the party starts.

[WaltD4Me]

No, I went to MNSSHP last year. With your party ticket you can enter the park at 4pm and you can go anywhere in the park. They do not make you wait in Liberty Square for 3 hours. Or any other land for that matter.

[cathie1327]

We went on the 15th of this month, and nope, you get in at 4 and get your wristband and an go wherever you want!

[bosox2001]

Not to sabotage the thread, but, in a related question, how do they escort guests out of the park who are not attending the party? Let's say a guest is eating dinner at Columbia Harbor House at 7pm and is not attending MNSSHP...will they allow the guest to eat dinner here? Just curious how much flexibility a guest would have who wants to spend a few extra minutes eating dinner or visiting Main St. shows on a party night?

Thanks!

[Madisonsmom45]

Hi,
We went on Sept 15 to the party. They let us in at 4:00. Much to our amazement, there were plenty of folks that stayed in the park. It seemed as long as you weren't trying to get on a ride or collect candy, CM's looked the other way. There were many people around us that didn't have the wrist bands that were there watching the parade. It was a fun party, but now that we've done it once, I don't think I would do it again. The parade and characters were cool, as was the music.
Bonnie

[aspen37]

Not to sabotage the thread, but, in a related question, how do they escort guests out of the park who are not attending the party? Let's say a guest is eating dinner at Columbia Harbor House at 7pm and is not attending MNSSHP...will they allow the guest to eat dinner here? Just curious how much flexibility a guest would have who wants to spend a few extra minutes eating dinner or visiting Main St. shows on a party night?

Thanks!

In order to stay in the park you must have a wrist band. I did see them ushering out guests that did not have a wrist band last year.

[bosox2001]

Hi,
We went on Sept 15 to the party. They let us in at 4:00. Much to our amazement, there were plenty of folks that stayed in the park. It seemed as long as you weren't trying to get on a ride or collect candy, CM's looked the other way. There were many people around us that didn't have the wrist bands that were there watching the parade. It was a fun party, but now that we've done it once, I don't think I would do it again. The parade and characters were cool, as was the music.
Bonnie

Hmph. So, ostensibly, even if you don't have a ticket, you could stay in the park and take in the atmosphere and/or eat dinner/shop?

[SamIAm21]

I did attend a MVMCP a few years ago, but arrived at the park at about 6:30 p.m., which isn't extremely early. I did notice many CM's around telling those without party wrist bands that they needed to make their way to the front of the park and leave. This happened all throughout the night as we moved from one land to another, especially Fantasyland to Liberty Square where you go under the overhang for Columbia Harbor House. They had people turn around and head back to the castle. They seemed pretty firm about this back in 2006, but with all the CM cutbacks, it might be easier to escape notice.

[zulemara]

as far as I know, they still slowly start ushering people out of the park after the party starts.

[PrincessPaisley]

On the advice of a CM we used our MNSSHP tickets to enter the Magic Kingdom at around 2:00pm (Halloween Night 2008) even though the ticket stated entry started at 4:00pm. Entering early provided for an awesome evening, as we were able to spend the first couple of hours enjoying the rides, and the remainder of the evening partaking in all of the parties events.

[Paul in CT]

Not to sabotage the thread, but, in a related question, how do they escort guests out of the park who are not attending the party? Let's say a guest is eating dinner at Columbia Harbor House at 7pm and is not attending MNSSHP...will they allow the guest to eat dinner here? Just curious how much flexibility a guest would have who wants to spend a few extra minutes eating dinner or visiting Main St. shows on a party night?

Thanks!

Last year we arrived around 4:00 PM for MNSSHP with the idea of eating dinner at CHH, but it was already closed for the evening and being set-up as a candy distribution location. :( That may likely be the same this year.

I am sure they will let people finish their meals, but they do direct you out of the park afterward and you cannot do any rides without the wrist band. You may be able to shop in the stores on Main Street for a little longer, but they will not let you back to the sections of the park with ride attractions.

[*NikkiBell*]

This is why I don't listen to other Disney podcasts. ;)

[bosox2001]

Well, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. We don't have tickets for any night, but we will try to stretch out our visit to MK for a few extra minutes if we don't get the sense that CMs are pushing people out. Is this bad?:confused3

[Minnie Lor]

Well, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. We don't have tickets for any night, but we will try to stretch out our visit to MK for a few extra minutes if we don't get the sense that CMs are pushing people out. Is this bad?:confused3

What do you think?

[Sammie]

MNSSHP is a very expensive special ticket event, much like a concert, therefore without a ticket/wristband then yes, guests should exit the park at closing time.

[WaltD4Me]

Well, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. We don't have tickets for any night, but we will try to stretch out our visit to MK for a few extra minutes if we don't get the sense that CMs are pushing people out. Is this bad?:confused3

CM's aren't going to throw you out. If you are eating dinner somewhere and it's 6:55pm, they aren't going to run in and escort you out of the park. You can finish your meal and then head toward the exit, CM's will start looking for wristbands and let people without wristbands know that you need a party ticket to stay in the park past 7pm pointing you towards Main Street and the park exit.

I went to MNSSHP last year, who knows what has changed since, but I was sort of looking and can't recall seeing anyone without a wristband. I wasn't looking that hard, but everyone around as at the parade and things seemed to have one.

[dizneydiva2005]

In years past, yes we were lead to a certain area... but last year this did not happen.

[zulemara]

I was at MNSSHP tonight so I took special note of what was going on.

After 7pm, they had a crowd control measure setup that forced you to have a wristband. If you were on main street, you had to have a wristband to get to any of the lands of MK. If you were in a land and trying to pass through a checkpoint to another land, you were directed towards the exit. I actually saw a CM along the parade route asking for wristbands to people waiting for the parade. Two guys didn't have it so he said "sorry folks the park closed at 7, you need to exit the park." They sort of got up and tried to walk towards tomorrowland and the CM said "you're going the wrong way, the exit is that way" and literally followed them half way down main street.

I also wanted to point out that even without my experience tonight, I don't see any evidence of CM cutbacks during the parties. I walk into MK every night for my breaks and I see loads of CMs basically standing around for crowd control purposes(not all of them are PAC, I'm talking about when the party starts). They are well staffed all around. Tonight just confirmed it because they were very strict about people having wristbands to be in the park.

[klam_chowder]

Thommy, your sig's :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl:

cheers,
:flower3:

[LoraJ]

Are you sure they weren't talking about Halloween Horror Nights at Universal? That's what they do when you use the Stay & Scream option. They corral you in a certain area of the park and let the crowd out.

[dizzy203]

I went to my 1st MNSSHP in 2006, then back again in 2007 and then MVMCP in 2008. We always arrived early (between 4-5 ) and we were never corralled. We've always been asked to see our wrists so they could check for the bands. When a cast member didn't see a wrist band they would be very nice to the guests and they would tell them they had to turn around and head towards the exit.

[WaltD4Me]

Are you sure they weren't talking about Halloween Horror Nights at Universal? That's what they do when you use the Stay & Scream option. They corral you in a certain area of the park and let the crowd out.

They used to coral you at Disney parties, I went to Pirate and Princess and a Mickey's Very Merry where they had us in Tomorrowland while they cleared out other guests. Seems they don't do that anymore though, they just watch for guests without wristbands and direct them to the exit.

[djblu883]

V. V. Hmph. So, ostensibly, even if you don't have a ticket, you could stay in the park and take in the atmosphere and/or eat dinner/shop?

We had an ADR at Crystal Palace on a party night and were escorted as far as Casey's Corner and told to find our way out. We were also told since we didn't have arm bands we couldn't shop on our way out.:headache:We HD planned on thY beo g our last stop before heading home the next day.

[Paul in CT]

V. V.

We had an ADR at Crystal Palace on a party night and were escorted as far as Casey's Corner and told to find our way out. We were also told since we didn't have arm bands we couldn't shop on our way out.:headache:We HD planned on thY beo g our last stop before heading home the next day.

The reason they do not let you shop is that they put out special MNSSHP merchandise that is there for the party only and cannot be purchased if you don't have a party ticket.

[Justin Jett]

:thumbsup2This is why I don't listen to other Disney podcasts. ;)

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[djblu883]

The reason they do not let you shop is that they put out special MNSSHP merchandise that is there for the party only and cannot be purchased if you don't have a party ticket.

We knew this and had hoped to get A couple of things . We had been to the party 2 years before..... Just wanted the OP to know they do enforce the use of wristbands and do escort people out. We had no problem with it but were just disapoonted the dgd didn't get her Mickey pumpkin.. no worries she will get one this year!!!!

[Sammie]

I was at MNSSHP tonight so I took special note of what was going on.

After 7pm, they had a crowd control measure setup that forced you to have a wristband. If you were on main street, you had to have a wristband to get to any of the lands of MK. If you were in a land and trying to pass through a checkpoint to another land, you were directed towards the exit. I actually saw a CM along the parade route asking for wristbands to people waiting for the parade. Two guys didn't have it so he said "sorry folks the park closed at 7, you need to exit the park." They sort of got up and tried to walk towards tomorrowland and the CM said "you're going the wrong way, the exit is that way" and literally followed them half way down main street.

I also wanted to point out that even without my experience tonight, I don't see any evidence of CM cutbacks during the parties. I walk into MK every night for my breaks and I see loads of CMs basically standing around for crowd control purposes(not all of them are PAC, I'm talking about when the party starts). They are well staffed all around. Tonight just confirmed it because they were very strict about people having wristbands to be in the park.

thanks for sharing, and this is very good to hear and only fair to those that have paid the price for this event.

[zulemara]

Are you sure they weren't talking about Halloween Horror Nights at Universal? That's what they do when you use the Stay & Scream option. They corral you in a certain area of the park and let the crowd out.

Yes, unlike some guests who ask if my boat goes to Citywalk, I know where I was at and it was not universal.:rotfl:

I didn't say they corralled us. People with wristbands were free to move around the park. But what they did is setup a barricade at each land thoughtout the park that would force the crowd through a very small exit/entrance into another land. By doing that, they were able to make sure absolutely everyone was checked for a wristband and if you didn't have it, you were asked to leave.

[SamIAm21]

This is why I don't listen to other Disney podcasts. ;)


Variety is the spice of life... ;)

[bosox2001]

I wasn't trying to suggest that, as a non-ticketed guest to MNSSHP, we'd be trying to take advantage of CMs not escorting guests out of the park. I understand that folks pay a high premium to attend the event, and I wouldn't want to cheap my way into seeing the parade or any shows. Having said this, it is nice to know that you can plan to eat dinner close to 7pm and not worry about rushing through things. In a way, I'm glad that CMs are enforcing the rules with checkpoints, etc. If they weren't, it would be awful easy for guests to view the parade, shows with no ticket. Perhaps this is what it was like a few years ago??

[LoraJ]

Yes, unlike some guests who ask if my boat goes to Citywalk, I know where I was at and it was not universal.:rotfl:

I didn't say they corralled us. People with wristbands were free to move around the park. But what they did is setup a barricade at each land thoughtout the park that would force the crowd through a very small exit/entrance into another land. By doing that, they were able to make sure absolutely everyone was checked for a wristband and if you didn't have it, you were asked to leave.



I was referring to the OP who was talking about what they heard on a podcast. Not your post. i was wondering if the podcast was talking about HHN and not MNSSHP.

[SamIAm21]

This podcaster is a really nice guy amongst a group of guys and it is not the one that rhymes with lemonjello. He could have been talking about a MNSSHP that happened quite a few years ago and maybe this was Disney's procedure for a few parties or a season just to see how things went. I just wanted to make sure they weren't still doing that because if so, what's the point of getting there early? We are going to spend the morning in the AK, then head back to the house, swim for a bit, give the kids some down time, then I hope to be back at the MK by at least 5:00 to 5:30. A little early, but not directly at 4:00 p.m.

I am really looking forward to this trip. It's been quite some time since we've been there.