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scojos
09-13-2009, 01:42 PM
am watching to get flights next aug (5th), really struggling to get them below 700, thats a massive increase on last year!
having read a few flight threads, can anyone tell me how long it will take for prices to drop?
thanks
tracy

jmagla
09-13-2009, 01:54 PM
We are in the same boat, the current flight prices for next August are so high that we wont be going unless they drop to around 500 (preferably direct but will go indirect). I find it hard to believe that families can afford these prices even for School holidays, nearly 3000 for a family of 4 such as ours, just to get there is too much. :scared1:

sandshal
09-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Highly unlikely they will decrease, only increase. That said, you may find the odd bargin if you fly indirect .......... Waynes the master!!!!!

If you've got your mind set on Virgin I'd advise you to bite the bullet and book now or certainly before Christmas, we've been 2 August's on the trot now and watched the prices increase gradually during the build up to the holiday.

scojos
09-13-2009, 02:05 PM
there are 5 of us, and at 700 each, we ll have to cancel our holidays, cant afford that sort of money - its massive, flying indirect with an asd kid, is feasible but id rather not....
looking at indirect flights its 12-13hours flight, which is not going to happen!!
thinking about staying 1 night and then flying on, how difficult is it to jump into a airport hotel, get some sleep and then travel on?
josh wouldnt cope if he had to jump from 1 plane to another....
thanks

wayneg
09-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Its impossible to know. If seats are not selling they will reduce them, if a competitor has a sale they might compete, we usually book in October but once it was Xmas day before I saw what we wanted.
On the other hand if the economy improves and seats sell well they will not come down and only increase.
I have a 500 limit for Virgin direct and 400 anyone else indirect, always managed it before don't see it being different for next year.
My problem is do we just goto Florida or go elsewhere 1st for a change, maybe into Washington then drive down the coast, or do an Alaskan Disney cruise 1st(2011), so many options.

jmagla
09-13-2009, 02:24 PM
I have a 500 limit for Virgin direct and 400 anyone else indirect, always managed it before don't see it being different for next year.


That is reassuring, you have much responsibility Wayne, many of us will be hanging on your every post around flight sale time :)

scojos
09-13-2009, 02:49 PM
That is reassuring, you have much responsibility Wayne, many of us will be hanging on your every post around flight sale time :)

totally agree:thumbsup2

orangetiggs
09-13-2009, 03:02 PM
yes prices for scheduled airlines dont normall decrease unless they have sales etc as they sell the cheaper classes first which leaves the expensive flexible fares that noone wants to pay the prices for

We got miles and money last nov for our flights and paid 613 for 2 of us with VA

Pegasus928
09-13-2009, 03:06 PM
I have a 500 limit for Virgin direct and 400 anyone else indirect, always managed it before don't see it being different for next year.

So how much would it cost me for you to send a PM before you make it public on the forum ;)

wayneg
09-13-2009, 03:14 PM
So how much would it cost me for you to send a PM before you make it public on the forum ;)

:rotfl2:

The ones we booked this year, Biz class for 465 were around for 2 days after I posted. Plenty of time.

howlongtillsummer?
09-13-2009, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't book our hotel until I had flights. Flying direct from Belfast we have one and only option (Flyglobespan) which we booked at the end of August for 650 each. Thankfully this was in time to book Free Dining at the reduced price at OKW. It is unbearable waiting though isn't it? I supposed it is all down to supply and demand...I hate gambling on that sort of thing though.

scojos
09-13-2009, 03:30 PM
So how much would it cost me for you to send a PM before you make it public on the forum ;)

;) ill double whatever he offers...:rotfl2:
hey wayne, you should just stop working and take bribes, its one way of earning a living, tax free too:lmao:

Mermaid2sea
09-14-2009, 08:29 AM
Have you tried BA they have a sale on at the moment..

wayneg
09-14-2009, 09:02 AM
Have you tried BA they have a sale on at the moment..

Just checked BA, economy 863.90pp:rotfl2:
Their sale doesn't seem to cover Florida and only on for departures in next few months. http://www.britishairways.com/travel/flights-sale/public/en_gb

pigby
09-14-2009, 09:11 AM
Wayne

Do you usually go in summer school holidays? It is California we are looking at for next year and the prices (indirect with US) are coming up at just over 600 per adult - do you think it's worth hanging on?

wayneg
09-14-2009, 09:20 AM
Wayne

Do you usually go in summer school holidays? It is California we are looking at for next year and the prices (indirect with US) are coming up at just over 600 per adult - do you think it's worth hanging on?

I have never tracked flight prices for West cost in August, both our trips over there were Oct half term, 1st time paid 375 with Virgin Direct, 2nd time around 400 from MAN~Chicago~Vegas internal Vegas~LA then back LA~Chicago~MAN
At 600 I would be waiting so far out, I have always found best prices between Oct~Xmas but its always a gamble with flights, prices can go either way.

ford family
09-14-2009, 10:59 AM
Part of the problem is the new taxes, pushing up prices beyond the control of the airline. We've just booked some flights to Sarasota/Bradenton for the end of next month and the fare is 187 plus taxes of 226 for a total of 413 each.

We are looking at airfare to Asia to join a cruise next year and are considering train to Paris and Air France flights onward to avoid the long haul taxes.

ford family

heatherbelle
09-14-2009, 11:20 AM
There's a thread running over on the Dibb, that Continental are quoting an average of 550.00 for August, which is quite a bit cheaper than Virgin for those wanting direct flights. It's a code share flight, so it may be worth looking at it you don't want to take the risk.

For the post about LA. In October, there were flights to LA from LHR with VA for 360.00 for the school holidays in August. But they went up later in the year with a massive bump.

starwarsclark
09-14-2009, 11:33 AM
Hi all,
We have done everything, hotel (CDR) RPR 2 nights, all tickets etc. but not the flights yet as we go 15th August 2010, can go a few days earier but not later, so really waiting for something decent to appear in flight pricing - There are 6 of us as well - Yikes!

Would be "happ" with 500 - 600 each. Fingers crossed.

The code share thingy with Continental and Virgin - How does that work please?

wayneg
09-14-2009, 11:40 AM
The code share thingy with Continental and Virgin - How does that work please?

Its a Virgin plane you fly with but so many seats on each flight are allocated to Continental, they have been doing it a few years, must be at least 5 years since we did it this way. You buy them via Continental, sometimes cheaper than Virgin other times more expensive.

We just did an AirFrance/Delta code share, booked with AirFrance but code share with Delta so actual flight was Delta, many airlines do it.

starwarsclark
09-14-2009, 12:00 PM
Its a Virgin plane you fly with but so many seats on each flight are allocated to Continental, they have been doing it a few years, must be at least 5 years since we did it this way. You buy them via Continental, sometimes cheaper than Virgin other times more expensive.

We just did an AirFrance/Delta code share, booked with AirFrance but code share with Delta so actual flight was Delta, many airlines do it.

Thanks for the WayneG, interesting.

Do you just book flights on the Continental website? How do you know if it is a code share? Can we book via the US version of the Continental website if it works out cheaper than the UK one?

Sorry for the questions, I am sure it is obvious, just can't see the wood for the trees.

wayneg
09-14-2009, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the WayneG, interesting.

Do you just book flights on the Continental website? How do you know if it is a code share? Can we book via the US version of the Continental website if it works out cheaper than the UK one?

Sorry for the questions, I am sure it is obvious, just can't see the wood for the trees.

With continental/Virgin its obvious as Continental do not go direct, so if the flight times are about 8hrs then its a Codeshare with Virgin. If the times are 11 hours plus they are indirect.
Not sure if you can book with their US site, many sites will not let you. Try Orbitz.com, you might get the same fare as on Continental.com but they allow you to book from UK in $'s. I used them for last Oct, after conversion it was 240, in UK the same flights were 450.

Obi Wan Kenobi
09-14-2009, 12:49 PM
The Continental website will tell you that the flight is operated by Virgin if its a codeshare.

I was just looking for a work colegue, going out end July for two weeks, Manchester was more expensive than Gatwick,
MAN was (for two adults and two children) 2,750
Gatwick was 2, 225
First choice from BHX was 3,123 :scared1:

For tehse prices you get wet weather, high huimidity, peak busy timesa at teh aprks, hight car hire costs, I will continue to go outside school holidays and pay the fine if I have to!!

wayneg
09-14-2009, 01:14 PM
The Continental website will tell you that the flight is operated by Virgin if its a codeshare.


Thats good they tell you, I have not looked, I usually book thru an agent to get cashback, same price but 1% cashback, Expedia for example don't tell you its codeshare.

sandshal
09-14-2009, 01:31 PM
We booked a Continental/Virgin code share through Expedia for this year .... no trouble at all ... by logging in my Flying Club membership number I was able to go directly to the VA site and pick our seats, use Twilight checkin and DTD checkin for 10 dollars per person .... wouldn't hesitate to do this again

kazd
09-15-2009, 03:53 PM
My hubby has just had a phone call from Virgin Frequent Flyer, he has been told that he can buy one get one for the price of 20,000 airmiles (he has just short of 50k miles and is flying out to delhi in the next few weeks business class). I have worked out that for 5 of us that would work out at approx 2038 to go to orlando in summer hols next year. Of course we would have to add the cost of the car hire to that as well but realistically do you think there is any chance of doing it cheaper.

scottishgirl87
09-15-2009, 04:32 PM
I would like to see a Flight Date & Rate style thread like the Hotel Date & Rate threads going! I know it'd be difficult to maintain but flight prices are so commonly asked about it would good for people looking to look into the thread and see what the "average" price is.

For example you'd have....
Flying With:
Direct or In-Direct:
Dates:
Booked Via (or When or both):
Price:

When I was booking my flights I was really interested to see what other people were paying to compare my own flights :surfweb: Although I still do it now even though I've booked :thumbsup2

Scrap_Vamp
09-15-2009, 04:56 PM
For tehse prices you get wet weather, high huimidity, peak busy timesa at teh aprks, hight car hire costs, I will continue to go outside school holidays and pay the fine if I have to!!

I wish I had that option but, as a teacher, I really am stuck, even without kids of my own!

We booked a bounceback for next year's free dining from August 15th, and our anniversary is the 17th. Other than that, don't mind doing a couple of nights earlier as we're going to split our stay between Universal, DIsney, and somewhere else.

We also did a Continental codeshare this year and got our flights for about 35pp cheaper than direct with Virgin.

paulh
09-15-2009, 05:48 PM
the price will drop the day after you booked it:lmao:
Paul

arielrocks
09-16-2009, 01:46 AM
My hubby has just had a phone call from Virgin Frequent Flyer, he has been told that he can buy one get one for the price of 20,000 airmiles (he has just short of 50k miles and is flying out to delhi in the next few weeks business class). I have worked out that for 5 of us that would work out at approx 2038 to go to orlando in summer hols next year. Of course we would have to add the cost of the car hire to that as well but realistically do you think there is any chance of doing it cheaper.

So 20k miles plus approx 400 for 2 flights? If that's right I think that's a great deal.

kazd
09-17-2009, 04:18 PM
Apparently I got it slightly wrong, Two flights @ approx 727 ea, two free flights but have to pay the taxes approx 190 ea and a fifth flight which we can get about 80 off using miles and money. So approx 2484 plus car. Still a saving I guesss!

WiganTony
09-18-2009, 04:08 PM
;) ill double whatever he offers...:rotfl2:
hey wayne, you should just stop working and take bribes, its one way of earning a living, tax free too:lmao:

.. and I'll beat this by 5!!!

The window for being able to book our return flights opened today (for 14th August), and the cheapest flights available today were around the 720 mark. We are constrained with wanting to stop off in New York for four nights on the outbound flight, but still think that over 700 is too much :eek: