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princesssfws
10-27-2007, 05:14 PM
I just bought a new Canon Powershot S5 IS. So far, just out of the box, I LOVE it. The zoom is incredible, as is picture taking speed.
Anyone have any advice on what I definitely need to learn with this camera. I will be going to WDW in Dec with my DH and 3 kids. I love to take all types of pictures and like using my camera for movies as well, so I don't have to lug around 2 machines and all the kids stuff.
Any advice or great things that you have discovered with this camera would be greatly appreciated. Any tips that make using the different settings easier?
Thanks for any response.
jpeka65844
10-27-2007, 09:29 PM
I could've written your post! About the camera AND the trip! We're calling our Dec trip the "Eatin' Drinkin' and Takin' Pictures Trip" Here's hoping I kind of get it figured out before then.....
Shasta
10-27-2007, 09:53 PM
I'm in the boat too. I have had my S5 for three days and am learning how to operate it for our Jan 1-7 trip. Check out the thread below. I was directed to it and there are some great tips you may use.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546
PhotobearSam
10-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Got my S5 a month ago and have yet to really take any photos...My Dad had to have open heart surgery so it took a lot of time to get back into a routine.
I will be the one trying to learn how to use it on the car ride down to WDW...it's 32 hrs long so maybe I'll be an expert by time I get there.
;)
princesssfws
10-28-2007, 10:24 AM
I could've written your post! About the camera AND the trip! We're calling our Dec trip the "Eatin' Drinkin' and Takin' Pictures Trip" Here's hoping I kind of get it figured out before then.....
Saw your sig and see that we are practically neighbors. We are in OP,KS. We leave on Dec. 11.
Well, I tried to read through the manual last night and I did find some fun stuff with changing the pics into different colors both before and after but a lot of the manual I don't understand. I'll probably stick to the auto mode for most of the stuff.
I know this is a popular camera, hopefully someone out there has used it and can give all us newbies some advice.
18MAGIC
10-28-2007, 11:28 AM
I have a Canon Powershot A540 and love it, but it lacks big zoom and image stabilization. I am wanting to upgrade, but do not understand a lot about the settings and such. I want something that gives me more zoom, better low light shooting and faster shooting speed (I seem to miss a lot of the action with my current camera).
I have looked at the Canon S5 and it seems like a good deal with a 12x zoom. But the Pentax K100D Super has a rebate and seems like it may be something that I can get more creative with later on. It comes in a kit with a 18-55mm lens. I do not understand the lens terminology. :confused3 What kind of zoom would I have with this type of lens? Also, you can't use the LCD screen to frame your subjects like a regular point and shoot camera?
Overall what would your recommendation be? They seem to be around the same price range.
Thanks.
Master Mason
10-28-2007, 12:03 PM
First of all, framing your picture with a view finder rather than than an LCD screen is actually the better way to do it, except in very very rare cases. You hold the camera better in that manner, tight against your body, rather than at arms lenght with your hands and arms shaking.
To understand Lens zoom.... first off most of the p&s cameras give it to you in terms of 2x 3x etc..... all this means is whatever the big number devided by the little number.... it really tells you nothing else. so a 10-100 lens would be 10x a 15-150 lens is also a 10x ect...
To compare apples to apples we speak in terms of 35mm equivalents, so what would it be the equivalent on a 35mm camera. In the case of the pentax it is a 1.5 factor so the 18-55 is a 27-83 equivalent. The s5 has a 36-432 equivalent.
But with the pentax, you have a larger sensor, so better low light capablity, better bokah on shallow DOF shots. Better high ISO performance. The ability to change lenses, so you could actually get much closer than the 432 that the s3 provides, but would require extra purchases of lenes.....
So, it depends on what your looking for really, the Pentax would be much better if you plan on getting involved with this as a serious endevour, the s5 would be much easier if you don't want to get as serious.
Dan Murphy
10-28-2007, 12:41 PM
The camera takes very good videos, IMO (I have the S2). Not as good certainly as a dedicated video camera, but sure is good from my perspective. Make sure to have large memory cards (2 gig or more) as well as fast ones....Ultra, etc. Also shoot highest quality. Enjoy.
OT, Sam, hope your dad is doing well.
ukcatfan
10-28-2007, 03:22 PM
I have both a S2 and a K100D. I always keep the S2 with me, but almost never use it. The kids and DW use it more. I also bought a cheap used 80-210mm lens for the K100D so I could have more range. I almost never use it either. It only came out of the bag one time in my last week long WDW trip. Used lenses are not a bad way to go when you are new to a DSLR. That way you are not laying out too much $$$ while you are getting a feel for what lenses you really need. Mine is certainly not that good of a lens, but it is at least as good as you are going to get with a p&s lens. Plus, it only cost me ~$30.
Kevin
Groucho
10-30-2007, 09:30 AM
The K100D is in a completely different league than the S5, despite similar price points.
The advantages of the S5 are that it's smaller, can do movies, and it's "all in one", ready to go with big zoom.
The K100D Super has significantly better image quality (the sensor is about 15x as large) and likely better build quality as well, more flexibility, interchangeable lenses (allowing not only a wide variety of common lenses but also things like very "fast" low-light lenses and fisheye that simply cannot be done with a point-n-shoot), more advanced controls, etc.
The K100D Super with kit lens will be adequate out of the box (similar range as a 3x zoom point-n-shoot) but to get the longer zoom, you'll need an additional lens. Or, you can get one single lens that covers a similar range but that can bump the price up a bit.
dizneegirls
11-07-2007, 03:24 PM
Hi, just wondering if anyone here has this camera? I just ordered it and can't wait to get it. Kind of curious on how well the color accent works. Any replys will be most appreciated:)
LPZ_Stitch!
11-07-2007, 04:02 PM
Hi, just wondering if anyone here has this camera? I just ordered it and can't wait to get it. Kind of curious on how well the color accent works. Any replys will be most appreciated:)
Check through the S3 thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546)... S5 users are also welcome and well-represented!
There is no change between the S3's ability to color accent and the S5's; and, I know there are a number of color accent pics in our looooong thread. :)
Welcome to the "family". :grouphug: Don't forget to post your first pics!!
dizneegirls
11-07-2007, 09:54 PM
I wish I had the camera already. It is on back order so I will have it later this month. I've never had a Canon digital camera before. I've had 3 Kodaks and currently have a Sony-which I really like. Will post some pix as soon as I get it :goodvibes
Jeanne B
11-08-2007, 06:04 AM
I wish I had the camera already. It is on back order so I will have it later this month.
Where are you trying to buy it from? Buydig has it in stock for $344 with free shipping. They're very reputable and I've purchased from them and their sister site beachcamera several times. I always select free shipping with buydig and beach and I always have my orders within 1-2 business days. Amazon is also listing it as in stock for $340.
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CNPSS5
Shasta
11-08-2007, 06:08 AM
Where are you trying to buy it from? Buydig has it in stock for $344 with free shipping. They're very reputable and I've purchased from them and their sister site beachcamera several times. I always select free shipping with buydig and beach and I always have my orders within 1-2 business days. Amazon is also listing it as in stock for $340.
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CNPSS5
I bought mine from Buydig about three weeks ago. Good service and fast shipping.
jakoky
11-08-2007, 11:08 AM
Hi there, i have had my S5 for about 6 months and i LOVE it :cool1: ...if you want to see any kind of specific pictures, let me know and i can email you some....my S5 hit disneyland in september and i got great pics..another thing about the S5, the movie mode is incredible...i left my camcorder at home and took only the S5....you wont be disappointed!!!
sharon
me, dh, dd-16-:cheer2:, ds- 14-:goofy:, dd-12-:tink:
WDW-Dec 04-first disney experience for my DH, DD, DS, DD and first time at WDW for us all- :thumbsup2 9 nights at Pop Century
DL-MAY 06-first time at DL for DH and kids , and my 9th(but the first 8 were all by the time i was about 13) so it was all new to me-:thumbsup2 10 nights at Candy Cane Inn
DL-SEPT 07-another amazing DL trip and we got "dreamed"-fastpasses for the day-:thumbsup2 10 nights at the HoJo
:goodvibes :goodvibes I WANT TO GO BACK, I WANT TO GO BACK, I WANT TO GO BACK:goodvibes :goodvibes
AndrewWG
11-08-2007, 05:13 PM
Where are you trying to buy it from? Buydig has it in stock for $344 with free shipping. They're very reputable and I've purchased from them and their sister site beachcamera several times. I always select free shipping with buydig and beach and I always have my orders within 1-2 business days. Amazon is also listing it as in stock for $340.
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CNPSS5
I love buydig and beachcamera. The only problem I have with them is that you HAVE to be home whenever Fed Ex decides to deliver the package or it simply won't be left for you. This is good and bad. Good that your neighbors won't be helping themselves to your expensive packages, but bad since it will be shipped back to the company after three failed deliveries. You can't even opt out of this by writing and signing a note to them. If you order from them and want to get it when you aren't home, you have to leave a note stating that you would like to pick it up at your local Fed-Ex center. Mine is close to home, for others this may be a pain in the neck.
As far as the companies buydig and beachcamera go, they can't be beat otherwise.
Jeanne B
11-08-2007, 06:13 PM
I love buydig and beachcamera. The only problem I have with them is that you HAVE to be home whenever Fed Ex decides to deliver the package or it simply won't be left for you.
I usually have them ship to my work address, that way I always know someone will be available to sign plus I always get my order in one business day when I ship to the office vs two business days to my home. Not bad for free shipping!!
AndrewWG
11-08-2007, 06:20 PM
I usually have them ship to my work address, that way I always know someone will be available to sign plus I always get my order in one business day when I ship to the office vs two business days to my home. Not bad for free shipping!!
Thats a good idea. I'll have to try that, although I work on a military base so I'm not sure how that would work. I'll have to check into it.
kimluvswdw
11-15-2007, 08:24 PM
I have the S5 for over a month and I am still trying to figure out how to use it. I hope I learn fast, because we are going to Disneyworld in less than three weeks.
dizneegirls
11-15-2007, 08:57 PM
Finally got the camera on Tuesday-still trying to figure it all out :goodvibes I do believe that I am going to like it better than the Kodaks that I have . Lots of cool features!! Will post some as soon as I get more familiar with it. Plus it's cold, snowy and really windy here right now-so I think I'll wait til the weather clears :)
jpeka65844
11-15-2007, 10:15 PM
Exactlly how much video will a 2 GB card hold? I'd like to get video of the castle lighting and Osbourne Lights and am wondering if I need to buy another card....
LPZ_Stitch!
11-16-2007, 06:25 AM
Exactlly how much video will a 2 GB card hold?
About 16 minutes at the best quality 640x480/30fps....
You can get more on a card using lower resolution or lower speed, but the results are nowhere near as good.
Considering how cheap SD cards are, you should stock up before your trip! :thumbsup2 Between stills and video, I generally shot between 1G and 2G *each day* on our last vacation! :goodvibes
PhotobearSam
11-17-2007, 07:49 PM
I have one for my P&S Minolta but none for the S5, is there one available?
AndrewWG
11-17-2007, 07:54 PM
Unfortunately it doesn't look like there is one. Check out this page:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=144&modelid=15207#SNAModelSuppliesAct
PhotobearSam
11-17-2007, 07:59 PM
Well that sucks...
Oh well...
Thanks for the answer though. I do appreciate it.
AndrewWG
11-17-2007, 08:02 PM
No problem. I was bummed when the S2 IS didn't have one. I thought they would have fixed that by now. Bummer. I did play with an S5 today and was surprised to see that they finally made a real lens cap for it. That is a step in the right direction!
PhotobearSam
11-17-2007, 08:07 PM
I wish it stayed on better...Also, I want to find a UV filter to help protect the lens...I wonder if I can get one.
AndrewWG
11-17-2007, 08:10 PM
You can, but you need to probably buy the barrel adapter. I think it is on that page above. If not, I think it is lensmate.com that sells them too. You can attach a filter to the end of the adapter.
Jeanne B
11-17-2007, 08:27 PM
I wish it stayed on better...Also, I want to find a UV filter to help protect the lens...I wonder if I can get one.
http://www.lensmateonline.com/
sharibrat
11-19-2007, 06:56 AM
I am doing the single digit dance! :cool1:
I am also excited about taking my new Canon S5 ! Hoping to get some GREAT pictures!!! I am sure I'll be annoyed with the larger size....last camera fit into my pocket or into the tray section of my stroller.......but the pics will be worth it!
S. C.
11-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Looking forward to seeing your pictures. :)
Tuffcookie
11-19-2007, 05:08 PM
Hi! We'll both be there at the same time with our S5s!:goodvibes
You'll be able to recognize me 'cause I'll be the one taking pictures of any and everything!:rotfl:
TC:cool1:
jpeka65844
11-19-2007, 05:15 PM
Really? I'll be there in 12 days with MY S5 and I thought I was going to be the one taking pictures of anything and everything! :-)
Hope my 6 GB of cards will be enough......:rotfl:
Tuffcookie
11-19-2007, 05:30 PM
OMG, I just counted my cards and I have 11 GB!!!:eek:
I have 1 1 GB card (from my S2), 3 2 GB cards, and 1 4 GB card. I got the 4 GB so I can video the parade at MK.:)
TC:cool1:
ukcatfan
11-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Sorry to have to rub it in, but we are doing the 1 day dance!!! :woohoo:
Kevin
dizneegirls
11-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Hi all, I finally got my first Canon digital camera-the S5 IS. I love that the photos seem to be nice and crisp. The main reason I went with this one was because of the color accent mode-thought that would be really cool. However, I am not getting very good results. I took some photos of my family outside today for Christmas cards. I used the color accent to pull out only the color of the red scarves we had on. It did that, but in places the scarf kind of looks gray or black-any tips on using this feature or would I be better off to buy some kind of photo software that has the selective coloring? I have tried a couple of those, but I am not very good at trying to color in a specific color-would like to have some kind of software where you just click a button and tell it what color to accent-does that exist?? Sorry to sound so crazy :goodvibes Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
yrdlyprincess
11-29-2007, 07:58 PM
Ok, For those of you who have seen me on here b4 I have finally decided not or get a 35mm & just go w/a digital. I still need a point & shoot camera though. I was wondering what anybody thinks of these 2 cameras. I think that now I'm leaning towards the Sony but want to see some pictures from it 1st. Thanks to anyone who can help!!
robinb
11-29-2007, 09:33 PM
I don't have either one of those 2 cameras, but I have previous versions, I have an old Sony Cybershot which I replaced with a Canon S3-I last year. I have to tell you that our Canon kicks butt on the Sony.
FWIW, we had another Canon before the Sony and changed because the Canaon had a limited movie mode. I can take up to 1 mg with my S3. The S5 may be even better.
dizneegirls
11-29-2007, 10:08 PM
Any Suggestions? Still waiting for some advice-please:hourglass
dizneegirls
11-29-2007, 10:13 PM
Hi, I actually have both of these cameras-I'm a camera freak I guess :goodvibes I have to say that the Sony H-9 was a nice upgrade from my older Kodak Easyshare. I just got the Canon S5 very recently-my main reason for this camera is the fact that you can do a selective coloring on the camera without having to edit it afterwords-I'm still trying to figure it out. The pictures are very clear on the Canon. I have a few pix that I have taken with the Sony that I could send you-just pm me. Hope that helps a little :santa:
Pea-n-Me
11-30-2007, 12:05 AM
You will probably have best luck posing your question here (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546&referrerid=70088). There's been discussion about this feature before and I'm sure someone can answer your question.
kimluvswdw
11-30-2007, 02:07 PM
I have a new Canon S5 and we are going to Disneyworld in 5 days. I am never going to learn how to use this camera by then. Can someone give me a cheat sheet (so to speak) and tell me the best way to shoot the fireworks, Christmas lights, and the castle. I don't think putting it on auto and shooting is going to get it. Thanks for any advice.
LPZ_Stitch!
11-30-2007, 02:14 PM
I've got an S3 and LOOOOOVE it. :thumbsup2
Most of the reviews I've seen give the edge to the Canon over the Sony.
The Sony takes a more aggressive approach to in-camera noise reduction and that reduces the detail and clarity of the pictures. The Canon pics *are* noisier, but have more retained detail that a more sophisticated program, like Noiseware, can rescue.
jakoky
12-01-2007, 10:13 AM
hi there, i havent tried the Sony H9, but i had the H5(which i think was actually reviewed better)..i really like it, it took great pictures, although you really had to play with the settings...the movie mode lacked...i then bought a canon S5 which i LOVE :cool1: It takes excellent pics, even when in auto (which i rarely use though) and has an excellent movie mode. My dad also had the sony H5 and really didnt like it, he just couldnt get the pics that i was getting, but he didnt play much with the settings...lucky him, he sold it and bought an nikon D80...i love to play with that one...I do prefer my S5 over my H5 by a long shot, but i do miss the lcd on my sony-it was the best...good luck, i think whichever you decide, they are both great cameras...
sharon
me, dh, dd-16-:cheer2:, ds- 14-:goofy:, dd-12-:tink:
WDW-Dec 04-first disney experience for my DH, DD, DS, DD and first time at WDW for us all- :thumbsup2 9 nights at Pop Century
DL-MAY 06-first time at DL for DH and kids , and my 9th(but the first 8 were all by the time i was about 13) so it was all new to me-:thumbsup2 10 nights at Candy Cane Inn
DL-SEPT 07-another amazing DL trip and we got "dreamed"-fastpasses for the day-:thumbsup2 10 nights at the HoJo
:goodvibes :goodvibes I WANT TO GO BACK, I WANT TO GO BACK, I WANT TO GO BACK:goodvibes :goodvibes
manning
12-01-2007, 10:30 AM
Take a look at the Panasonic FZ18
28-504mm zoom. That's 18x
take a look at this article
http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/4836/shootout-18x-evf-superzooms.html
As for megapixel, less is better. Packing more and more into the same size sensor leads to noise problems.
Am_I_There_Yet
12-06-2007, 06:57 PM
I see lots of questions about the earlier models, but none for this one yet (unless I missed them!)...
Seems my dream camera (the XTi) isn't going to work well for work and I need something flexible enough for both my job, and something that will take better leisure pictures than my Sony Cyber-Shot.
I take a ton of photos for work and need a black camera with a powerful zoom. So far I'm liking the reviews I'm reading online, but no true DISer would make a purchase without checking here first. :)
Pros? Cons? Best prices?
LPZ_Stitch!
12-07-2007, 06:32 AM
Yes, there are quite a few happy S5 users, here. Mostly, they post in the CANON S3 IS thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=2207646); further toward the end of the thread, the S5 users start to show up! :) They're all welcome!
The S5 is an excellent camera; great versatility, good battery life, fantastic movie mode, very quick. I think the pictures on the thread speak for themselves.
Is it as good as a $1000 DSLR with a bag of lenses, of course not. But it's a fantastic vacation camera; you can take macro, wide-angle, 400mm+ telephoto and video all in one easily-portable package! :cool1:
Am_I_There_Yet
12-07-2007, 10:19 AM
Yes, there are quite a few happy S5 users, here. Mostly, they post in the CANON S3 IS thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=2207646); further toward the end of the thread, the S5 users start to show up! :) They're all welcome!
The S5 is an excellent camera; great versatility, good battery life, fantastic movie mode, very quick. I think the pictures on the thread speak for themselves.
Is it as good as a $1000 DSLR with a bag of lenses, of course not. But it's a fantastic vacation camera; you can take macro, wide-angle, 400mm+ telephoto and video all in one easily-portable package! :cool1:
Thanks for the link. I'll look though it this evening.
What about the G7? I've seen some photos recently taken with one, and they were incredibly sharp. I can't seem to find this camera, but I wonder if I'm looking under the wrong name? It's a point and shoot too, right?
LPZ_Stitch!
12-07-2007, 02:14 PM
Thanks for the link. I'll look though it this evening.
What about the G7? I've seen some photos recently taken with one, and they were incredibly sharp. I can't seem to find this camera, but I wonder if I'm looking under the wrong name? It's a point and shoot too, right?
The G7 has been replaced by the G9, the same way that the S3 has been replaced by the S5.
It's a point-and-shoot, but it's got a bigger sensor than the S3 (and all of the super-zooms except for the Fuji). It's a very popular camera on some of the boards I frequent (though, like all P&S it has it's vocal detractors, too).
The G-series are, I believe 6X zoom cameras, so there's less optical compromises required. Coupled with a bigger sensor, it is a little sharper than the S-series.
For me, it was the combination of features (especially the performance of the high zoom) that pushed me towards the S3 over the G7.
Both the S- and the G-series are 'top-of-the-line' P&S cameras with full manual modes and lots of features.
Am_I_There_Yet
12-07-2007, 02:25 PM
The G7 has been replaced by the G9, the same way that the S3 has been replaced by the S5.
It's a point-and-shoot, but it's got a bigger sensor than the S3 (and all of the super-zooms except for the Fuji). It's a very popular camera on some of the boards I frequent (though, like all P&S it has it's vocal detractors, too).
The G-series are, I believe 6X zoom cameras, so there's less optical compromises required. Coupled with a bigger sensor, it is a little sharper than the S-series.
For me, it was the combination of features (especially the performance of the high zoom) that pushed me towards the S3 over the G7.
Both the S- and the G-series are 'top-of-the-line' P&S cameras with full manual modes and lots of features.
Well, that would explain why I couldn't find it! Thanks! :laughing:
I have 3X zoom on my current camera and do need better capability in that area, but I don't necessary need 12X.
I guess I'll do some research on one versus the other and then wait until January for the prices to go down a little bit. This probably isn't the best time to get a new camera, methinks.
Thanks for your help!
ETA: I found the G9... thanks again! I do notice one major plus of the S5, that the G9 doesn't seem to have: the vari-angle LCD. I think that would definitely come in handy!
Am_I_There_Yet
12-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Yes, there are quite a few happy S5 users, here. Mostly, they post in the CANON S3 IS thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=2207646); further toward the end of the thread, the S5 users start to show up! :) They're all welcome!
:lmao:
I clicked your link and got a tomato sandwich thread!
AndrewWG
12-07-2007, 05:26 PM
:lmao:
I clicked your link and got a tomato sandwich thread!
Now THAT is too funny! :lmao:
The link is here:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546&page=73
I linked only the last page as you don't really want the first 40+ pages, probably. Those would be mostly S3 and S2 users as the S5 hadn't come out yet.
Am_I_There_Yet
12-07-2007, 05:40 PM
Now THAT is too funny! :lmao:
The link is here:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546&page=73
I linked only the last page as you don't really want the first 40+ pages, probably. Those would be mostly S3 and S2 users as the S5 hadn't come out yet.
I've had a rough week. It took me awhile to realize that it wasn't a bunch of hungry photography enthusiasts. :lmao:
Thanks for the link!
Pea-n-Me
12-07-2007, 09:47 PM
:wave2: Looking forward to seeing lots of pictures of Chloe with your new S5! (Make sure you post on my Photographing Pets thread here, too.)
We have an S3 and an S2. :thumbsup2 You may find there's a bit of a learning curve but just keep practicing and reading in the thread that LPZStitch posted - even though it's an S3 thread, many features are the same and you can learn a LOT there.
If you want to get a better understanding of basic photography principles (which will help you learn to use all the features the S5 has to offer), pick up a copy of Understanding Exposure (Amazon). There is also a Short Course book for the camera (link is somewhere in the thread) and I think it was around post 120 or so that Stitch posted some really helpful links too.
Am_I_There_Yet
12-08-2007, 01:43 AM
:wave2: Looking forward to seeing lots of pictures of Chloe with your new S5! (Make sure you post on my Photographing Pets thread here, too.)
Oh, you know I will be! I take pictures of her all the time anyway, but hopefully the difference will now be, that they'll be worth keeping! :thumbsup2
We have an S3 and an S2. :thumbsup2 You may find there's a bit of a learning curve but just keep practicing and reading in the thread that LPZStitch posted - even though it's an S3 thread, many features are the same and you can learn a LOT there.
If you want to get a better understanding of basic photography principles (which will help you learn to use all the features the S5 has to offer), pick up a copy of Understanding Exposure (Amazon). There is also a Short Course book for the camera (link is somewhere in the thread) and I think it was around post 120 or so that Stitch posted some really helpful links too.
The chainsaw, a.k.a. my husband, woke me up, so I came into my office and started reading the thread. A lot of it is Greek to me, but I know eventually some of it will start to click.
I will definitely look for the book and that link. The camera will mainly be for work, but I really, really want to be able to use it for leisure too. I'm such a bad photographer (I have to use disclaimers on my remodeling thread!), and would love to put that behind me!
Ironically, my husband broke his third camera today by dropping it on the lens. The last one, he broke wearing it in a cargo shorts pockets at WDW last June. Looks like he'll be getting a new one before me. :headache:
DMickey28
12-08-2007, 09:45 PM
I have to ask, why won't the XTi work for work? :-) I just got the XT last week. I couldn't wait until after the holidays, but rumor is the XT may be discontinued at the end of the year anyway. I LOVE IT. The Digital Rebel has been my dream camera for years, since it first came out.
It's not small but it's not THAT much bigger than the S3 or S5. I would think it would work for everything ... so I am just curious!
Tigger1221
12-27-2007, 05:09 PM
I know they are completly different but my mom wants to know. I got an S5 for chirstmas and my mom got the S5. However she was comparing them today and my S5 has more zoom than her long lense and her wide range lenses only shows an inch or 2 more than mine. Her lenses are old. She doesn't want to have to change lenses to get the same results I get. She really isn't interested in buying new lenses as she says they are too expensive. So should she keep her XTi or trade it in for the S5?
Thanks,
Jill
ukcatfan
12-27-2007, 06:52 PM
I know they are completly different but my mom wants to know. I got an S5 for chirstmas and my mom got the S5. However she was comparing them today and my S5 has more zoom than her long lense and her wide range lenses only shows an inch or 2 more than mine. Her lenses are old. She doesn't want to have to change lenses to get the same results I get. She really isn't interested in buying new lenses as she says they are too expensive. So should she keep her XTi or trade it in for the S5?
Thanks,
Jill
She will get better results than you in many situations. If she only uses it good light, then she might not notice much of a difference. Low and marginal light is where a DSLR really shows the advantage b/c the high ISO is so much cleaner than a p&s.
Kevin
Tigger1221
12-27-2007, 07:35 PM
She will get better results than you in many situations. If she only uses it good light, then she might not notice much of a difference. Low and marginal light is where a DSLR really shows the advantage b/c the high ISO is so much cleaner than a p&s.
Kevin
Thanks, I told her it hers was tons better but she doesn't believe me.:confused3 She wanted me to ask you all! We will go out tomarrow and test losts of lighting situations and maybe that will convince her. I think she is worried she won't be able to figure it all out.:confused:
Groucho
12-27-2007, 10:22 PM
The XTi's sensor is approximately 14-15x larger than the one in the S5... the quality is definitely way beyond what the S5 can do! If there's any doubt about it, set them both to ISO 1600 and compare the results.
However, the tiny sensor in the S5 means a large depth of field, so it's easier for the S5 to get things in focus, plus it can do video, unlike the XTi, if that's a consideration.
Tigger1221
12-28-2007, 11:16 AM
Thanks! She is going on vacation for a week. I told her to take it with her and see if she likes it! I think she really doesn't want to carry arround all the extra equipment. She has the film Rebel and used to take great pics with it. I am learing to use my camera, she just need to learn to use hers. I think she will see how much better hers is.
pjacobi
12-28-2007, 12:02 PM
I have both a P/S camera *and* a dSLR. I use both depending upon the situation and how much effort I am willing to invest into the photo.
The dSLR will alway provide the best quality picture, but it won't fit in my pocket.
My P/S camera works just fine for family snapshots, but for a one-in-a-lifetime trip, I want my dSLR.
Try to figure out how you plan to use the camera and buy the best equipment for the job.
A dSLR *can* take great pictures, but if you just hate carrying around a big camera that you don't know how to use, you probably won't get very many good pictures. You might be tempted to leave the dang thing at home in the box.
-Paul
Anewman
12-29-2007, 02:37 AM
I know they are completly different but my mom wants to know. I got an S5 for chirstmas and my mom got the S5. However she was comparing them today and my S5 has more zoom than her long lense and her wide range lenses only shows an inch or 2 more than mine. Her lenses are old. She doesn't want to have to change lenses to get the same results I get. She really isn't interested in buying new lenses as she says they are too expensive. So should she keep her XTi or trade it in for the S5?
Thanks,
Jill
Better is subject to personal preferences and priorities.
Yes the Xti is capable of getting better image quality, but as your mom has pointed out that might be in exchange of convenience.
For 90% of her shots when printed on 4x6 you will likely not see any difference from the S5 shots, once you print larger and get into lower light situations if used properly the Xti should be night and day superior.
But if the Xti becomes a chore and ends up being left in the closet...
jann1033
12-29-2007, 10:00 AM
why don't you trade with her:thumbsup2
i was in that same place a couple yrs ago and am glad i went with the dslr...even though my old brain had to suffer through a big learning curve( never used a digital and hadn't used my film in a while since it was broken) imo it was worth it. so it depends on what you want to do, just easy photos or work on your skill. if her film still works she could use that for more creative/difficult shots if she wants to. i think the shutter lag has improved some but that drove me nuts with daughter's old p&S digital
Tigger1221
12-30-2007, 07:20 PM
why don't you trade with her:thumbsup2
i was in that same place a couple yrs ago and am glad i went with the dslr...even though my old brain had to suffer through a big learning curve( never used a digital and hadn't used my film in a while since it was broken) imo it was worth it. so it depends on what you want to do, just easy photos or work on your skill. if her film still works she could use that for more creative/difficult shots if she wants to. i think the shutter lag has improved some but that drove me nuts with daughter's old p&S digital
The way we travel A dslr is not a good choice for me. I am constantly on the go and need to travel light. We like cruising and all that equipment would hold us up. Mom is using her camera and liking it so far. She gets back next Sat. and I will help her upload them and see how they look. (She knows how to use a camera but can't use a computer.)
digman6
01-04-2008, 01:32 PM
I am soo new to this kinda camera ... I have a kodak easy share right now and it works great. I do want to get some AWESOME pics like you have and so I took the plunge and bought this Canon 8.1 12Xzoom S5 camera.
So before I get the book on how it works and I get scared off:scared: ;) what can you tell me about it that will not make me throw in the towel.
My goal is to figure out by the end of next week how to get pictures at the HM concert. We are in the upper level of the concert haul but closer to the bottom. Anyhow what kind of setting does a concert need or is the book reader friendly??
I really am banking on figuring out the basics of this by the end of next week, if thats possible??
LPZ_Stitch!
01-04-2008, 03:16 PM
I am soo new to this kinda camera ... I have a kodak easy share right now and it works great. I do want to get some AWESOME pics like you have and so I took the plunge and bought this Canon 8.1 12Xzoom S5 camera.
So before I get the book on how it works and I get scared off:scared: ;) what can you tell me about it that will not make me throw in the towel.
My goal is to figure out by the end of next week how to get pictures at the HM concert. We are in the upper level of the concert haul but closer to the bottom. Anyhow what kind of setting does a concert need or is the book reader friendly??
I really am banking on figuring out the basics of this by the end of next week, if thats possible??
First off, welcome to the family! :grouphug:
Don't forget to participate in our thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546). There's TONS of advice and pictures from many users of the entire line of Canon S-series cameras (everything from S1's thru S5's!).
Don't be scared ... it's an easy camera to use. You'll figure out the "basics" fifteen minutes after you get it out of the box and the batteries and SD card into it! :goodvibes
It takes great pictures in Auto mode. And, you can take 90% of your pictures in P mode (to control the ISO or just set it at 100 when in sunlight) and get *great* pictures.
The fact that it's got full Manual mode doesn't mean you *need* to use it for every picture!
The only time you really *need* to venture in to the Manual modes (Av, Tv and M) are when you are trying to achieve a specific effect like controlling the Depth Of Field (DOF)*, or taking pictures in less-than-optimum conditions (like indoors or in the dark).
For a concert (or an indoor Disney show like Beauty and the Beast or Nemo: The Musical), I've had decent luck with the following settings: switch to Av mode and select the smallest aperture possible (2.7 at wide or 3.5 at zoom), switch the Metering to Spot, and the ISO to 400.
Make sure you 'pre-focus' (half-press the shutter button) while aiming at the brightest area of the subject and you'll probably get shutter speeds of 1/40 or 1/60 ... *just* fast enough to freeze people on stage if they aren't moving too much. The IS will help, but I'd also recommend switching to Continuous mode, and taking as many shots as you can; some will be sharper than others.
The manual will make it clear how to set the settings I'm talking about, but it doesn't do much for "use these settings in these conditions" -- however, there are lots of those sorts of discussions in the S3 "family" thread.
* not that you have *that* much control, as it is a small-sensor camera.
MICKEY88
01-04-2008, 03:40 PM
The fact that it's got full Manual mode doesn't mean you *need* to use it for every picture!
The only time you really *need* to venture in to the Manual modes (Av, Tv and M) are when you are trying to achieve a specific effect like controlling the Depth Of Field (DOF)*, or taking pictures in less-than-optimum conditions (like indoors or in the dark).AV and TV aren't actually manual modes they are aperture priority and shutter priority..
For a concert (or an indoor Disney show like Beauty and the Beast or Nemo: The Musical), I've had decent luck with the following settings: switch to Av mode and select the smallest aperture possible (2.7 at wide or 3.5 at zoom), switch the Metering to Spot, and the ISO to 400. 2.8 although the smallest number is actually the largest aperture..:thumbsup2
Make sure you 'pre-focus' (half-press the shutter button) while aiming at the brightest area of the subject and you'll probably get shutter speeds of 1/40 or 1/60 ... *just* fast enough to freeze people on stage if they aren't moving too much. The IS will help, but I'd also recommend switching to Continuous mode, and taking as many shots as you can; some will be sharper than others.
The manual will make it clear how to set the settings I'm talking about, but it doesn't do much for "use these settings in these conditions" -- however, there are lots of those sorts of discussions in the S3 "family" thread.
* not that you have *that* much control, as it is a small-sensor camera.
:thumbsup2
npmommie
01-04-2008, 04:49 PM
so far i can see the sensor is different in these 2 and the canon has is and the fuji does not.
any opinions?
i want something good to take portraits of the kids inside in natural light.
and to use in general, but mostly to take good face shots
YEKCIM
01-04-2008, 04:58 PM
Comparison (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_s5is%2Cfuji_finepixs6000&show=all)
Canon goes longer, Fuji goes wider. Canon has IS, Fuji does not. Fuji has larger sensor, so better low-light performance at higher ISO's. Fuji has stronger flash. Canon is lighter. Canon has motorized zoom; Fuji has manual zoom. Canon may be less expensive and more widely available. xD memory used on Fuji is more expensive than SD memory used on Canon. Other minor differences, too - see link.
~YEKCIM
digman6
01-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Wow thanks so much , I kinda thought it was going to be REALLY hard to figure out. Glad to know its not to bad to work, that makes me think I will get this down with out to much trouble.
I am so used to the point and shoot of my Kodak Easy share and when I see the pictures I get now that I think are *really good* when I see all these on here I think HUH wait til I get me new one!
Thanks for helping me out, I am sure I will be coming by often for help;)
I never thought you could really get that good of pictures without a *professional* taking them.
jann1033
01-04-2008, 07:28 PM
any new camera is a change..i have a dslr and my daughter wanted me to take a photo with her powershot P&s ( no eyepiece, just the lcd screen:scared1: ) and i was lost:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
read your manual as soon as you get it with your camera in hand then practice practice practice and don't be afraid of auto till you get the hang of it. i've found canon in general to be pretty user friendly( only brand i really have experience with)
digman6
01-04-2008, 09:22 PM
I guess I am so used to pointing and shooting. the camera does it all and nothing for me to do . However I really LOVE seeing the pictures you all are getting that I broke down and bought a new one.
I figure if I can get the basics down at least for now that would be good. My goal is to get the baiscs down and I really want to get AWESOME pictures of this Hannah Montana concert for dd's.
I am sure I will understand what you are talking about with some of the things all of you say once I get me new camera
Thanks all so much again:grouphug:
Groucho
01-06-2008, 08:23 AM
The Fuji also offers proper zoom and focus rings.
You can also consider the S9000 or S9100, they will take CompactFlash cards, which aren't as expensive as xDs but more than SDs.
If you're spending that much, you're getting very close to the price of an entry-level DSLR, which will offer much more camera and quality than either of these (though less zoom with the basic lens), that might be something to consider also.
digman6
01-07-2008, 12:31 PM
I have been reading thru this book and messing with the controls I am a hands on learner first of all so I am struggling
I am trying to figure out the setting for when we go to our concert..this is sooo annoying.
I am not sure if the settings in the menu are were they should be or if they need to be adjusted? I am not sure I understand what they are talking about!:headache: Camera lingo in this book is over my head or something
I am a hands on learner or one of those if you do A,B,C = D
Anyone any tips ??
:hug:
GrillMouster
01-07-2008, 01:31 PM
It might help if you were a bit more specific about what you're asking.
actionvaughn
01-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Are you asking what the best settings are for taking pictures of at a concert? Everyone's really helpful at the Canon S3 IS/S5 IS Family Thread (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546). :hug:
GrillMouster
01-07-2008, 04:01 PM
It sounds like you're asking not only for the best settings for a concert, but for instructions on how to navigate all of the menus and options on the camera. What kind of concert is it? indoors/outdoors? day/night? will you be up close or far away? Will there be lots of motion on stage?
General advice for a low-light event from the crowd would be to turn off the flash, use large aperture (low f-stop value), and crank up the ISO, and try a shutter speed of 1/125 and adjusting from there. Since the images will be for your own personal enjoyment, not for professional use or publication, don't get hung up on the whole issue of increased noise due to high ISO. I'd rather have a noisy or slightly blurry image than no picture at all.
madge
01-07-2008, 05:23 PM
try the short courses book for the S5- it's an e-book that walks you through the settings of the camera, step by step.
www.shortcourses.com
crazydadguy
01-07-2008, 06:38 PM
I have a question about the S5, does it accept cable releases? I have looked on line in several different places and have not been able to find any information on it.:confused:
I have been reading thru this book and messing with the controls I am a hands on learner first of all so I am struggling
I am trying to figure out the setting for when we go to our concert..this is sooo annoying.
I am not sure if the settings in the menu are were they should be or if they need to be adjusted? I am not sure I understand what they are talking about!:headache: Camera lingo in this book is over my head or something
I am a hands on learner or one of those if you do A,B,C = D
Anyone any tips ??
:hug:
Steph - I answered this over on the S3/S5 thread.
LPZ_Stitch!
01-08-2008, 09:01 AM
:thumbsup2
Thanks for the corrections, but I was trying not to confuse the OP ... I didn't want to start throwing all of the technical stuff at them as they seem a little unsure.
Av and Tv are not "Scene" modes (like Night Snapshot or Sports), and because you "manually" set one of the parameters, I just lumped them all together.
Likewise, if I just said "set the largest aperture", I wasn't sure that the OP would know what I meant. 2.7 is the smallest *number* that the S3 can be set to... I guess I should have been clear that I meant "number" or "setting"....
digman6
01-08-2008, 10:28 AM
Thanks for the corrections, but I was trying not to confuse the OP ... I didn't want to start throwing all of the technical stuff at them as they seem a little unsure.
Av and Tv are not "Scene" modes (like Night Snapshot or Sports), and because you "manually" set one of the parameters, I just lumped them all together.
Likewise, if I just said "set the largest aperture", I wasn't sure that the OP would know what I meant. 2.7 is the smallest *number* that the S3 can be set to... I guess I should have been clear that I meant "number" or "setting"....
Last night I figured out that the Av and Tv are not *scenes*.
It took me all day to figure that out!:lmao:
After i figure it out I think -DUH!
I think I maybe making this harder then it is in some cases.
So 2.7 is the smallest on the S3 so when I do a concert shot I should have that at the lowest number is what I am getting, right???
Hey its all coming together by the end of the week I will have some of it down.
SO then if I have it on the lowest number which on my S5 is 2.7 what would the Av be at for a concert that is inside with alot of movement??
LPZ_Stitch!
01-08-2008, 02:18 PM
Last night I figured out that the Av and Tv are not *scenes*.
It took me all day to figure that out!:lmao:
After i figure it out I think -DUH!
I think I maybe making this harder then it is in some cases.
You probably are making it seem harder than it really is. Don't worry, there *are* a lot of settings, but you don't need to deal with ALL of them ALL the time.
So 2.7 is the smallest on the S3 so when I do a concert shot I should have that at the lowest number is what I am getting, right???
2.7 is the smallest number, therefore it's the largest aperture (the widest the lens can open to let in light). When in low light situations, you want to start with the largest aperture you can get.
SO then if I have it on the lowest number which on my S5 is 2.7 what would the Av be at for a concert that is inside with alot of movement??
2.7 would *be* the Av setting you want to use. 2.7 is, in effect, the "measure" of the size of the aperture you are selecting; from widest (2.7) to narrowest (8.0).
You could set it in two ways; in Av Mode (which is Aperture Priority; you set the aperture and the camera picks the 'best' shutter speed) or in M mode (which is Manual mode; where you have to pick *both* aperture and shutter speed).
In all of the "creative" modes (as Canon calls P, Av, Tv and M) you also have control over the ISO ... ISO is like the old film speed, and like film the higher the ISO the more sensitive the camera but the more noise (graininess) is introduced to your pictures. The S3/S5 is pretty good up to 400, but gets markedly noisier at 800 (and 1600) ... software like Noiseware is an absolute necessity if you are going to rescue an ISO1600 pic.
At a concert where the main subjects are going to be in bright spotlights while the rest of the stage is dark, you'll want to switch your metering from Evaluative (the default) to Spot (it's in the FUNC menu, accessed through the FUNC button beside the LCD). Evaluative metering is easily fooled by stage lighting and will cause the camera to pick unreasonably slow shutter speeds (in Av mode) ... spot metering avoids this problem by forcing the camera to "concentrate" on only calculating the exposure settings (the shutter speed in Av mode) based on the subject that's right in the center of the focus box.
You can see this effect here (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1590803), in the last of my Sept. pictures (Indiana Jones) this picture was taken from the farthest row back. You can see that the background is pretty dark, but Indy and the idol are fairly-well exposed. If I'd used evaluative, the dark background would have thrown off the camera and the shutter speed would have been too slow to get this sharp of a pic (not that it's razor sharp, in any case).
As in the shot above, I've had the best luck shooting concerts (at Disney and other places) in Av mode (setting the largest aperture/smallest number) and Spot metering and ISO400 ... shifting up to ISO800 only when missing the shot entirely was worse than a grainy/noisy pic.
digman6
01-08-2008, 02:43 PM
All I can say is WOW!!
thank-you, thank-you, thank-you!:worship: :thumbsup2
I am really starting to get it now, I think:lmao:
LPZ_Stitch!
01-09-2008, 06:56 AM
All I can say is WOW!!
thank-you, thank-you, thank-you!:worship: :thumbsup2
I am really starting to get it now, I think:lmao:
Glad to hear it! Don't forget to post a couple of pics on the S3/S5 family thread when you get back from the concert!
BTW, one thing I don't think I mentioned ... make sure to also set the camera into high-speed Continuous mode (the button on the top that switches from single-shot to timer to continuous) ... when you're shooting a concert, take more than one pic at a time as subject motion and camera shake are likely to mess up more than a few of your pictures.
Try to time your shots for when the performers are standing stillest; even in an energetic show for 'tweeners like HM, they'll stop dancing once in a while.... :)
tekmom
01-09-2008, 07:50 AM
I saw your thread on the Dis for families board and posted there, but at the HM concert last week I got really nice pics with my S2IS. I used scene mode nightime setting---no flash and zoomed in all the way. We were nosebleed too and my shots came out better than my friend's pics. She was alot closer but I had more zoom....and a better camera.;)
Heva2015
01-09-2008, 10:53 AM
Hi
I see everyone is loving the Canon S5 on here...I was just wondering can you change the lenses on this or are they fixed?
LPZ_Stitch!
01-09-2008, 11:50 AM
I see everyone is loving the Canon S5 on here...I was just wondering can you change the lenses on this or are they fixed?
It is not a DSLR; you cannot *change* the lens it comes with.
You can, however, add teleconverters, wide-angle lenses, macro lenses and/or filters with a lens adapter ... Canon makes one, as does Lensmate (http://www.lensmateonline.com/newsite/S2.html). The Lensmate adapter is generally regarded as the best available; it's the kind I have for my S3 and it fits perfectly and is of the highest quality.
MickeyMouseMomofSix
01-20-2008, 03:16 PM
Hi! I have the Canon S3 IS (got it in May 2007) and have yet to use it at WDW but am looking forward to in March! Now I see that they came out with a S5 IS. What are the major differences, if any, and is it worth me getting the newer one? Thanks! :)
garate55
01-20-2008, 03:29 PM
Here are some differences.
I bought my wife an S3 for her birthday.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/jordangarate/Canons3ands5.jpg
MouseFaninQueue
02-11-2008, 12:25 AM
I know megapixels is one major difference, but what I am wondering is if there is sufficient changes other than megapixels to recommend an upgrade from an S2 to the S5?
I've had my S2 for a few years now and have really enjoyed it, but I have to admit that I am interested in upgrading to the S5, but would need some help justifying the cost to my wife (who is buying the Canon 720IS).
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
ukcatfan
02-11-2008, 05:01 AM
I would not do it. The higher MPs it has causes higher noise at high ISOs. What are the features that you feel the S2 lacks compared to the S5? Also, unless the size/weight is just too large, a basic DSLR is not much more $ and will outperform the S5 any many ways. They also give you room to grow. Sure, you would not have the long focal length until you could justify a long zoom lens, but you would still have the S2 for that. I have a Pentax K100D and a Canon S2.
Kevin
collcass
02-11-2008, 11:28 AM
I would not do it. The higher MPs it has causes higher noise at high ISOs. What are the features that you feel the S2 lacks compared to the S5? Also, unless the size/weight is just too large, a basic DSLR is not much more $ and will outperform the S5 any many ways. They also give you room to grow. Sure, you would not have the long focal length until you could justify a long zoom lens, but you would still have the S2 for that. I have a Pentax K100D and a Canon S2.
Kevin
That's the first thing I noticed on the review from dpreview. It has just about talked me out of upgrading to the S5.
That, along with best Buy having the Nikon D40 plus zoom lense packaged for $649 this week
MouseFaninQueue
02-11-2008, 04:30 PM
Thank you for the feedback. I am planning on getting the Nikon D80 or the Canon Rebel Xti sometime in the future (way in the future), but was thinking of upgrading the S2 to the S5 because a) I like the higher MP b) was interested in the hot shoe c) the higher ISO would be nice as I beleive the 800 ISO of the S5 is better than the 400 ISO of the S2 and d) like the idea of the sports mode as the S2 doesn't have one.
But that will all have to wait. I just took my camera around town for some shooting and whenever I was using the zoom I was getting an E18 error, so I'll have to look into what that is and what was causing it first.
Anewman
02-11-2008, 04:32 PM
I would buy the S5 if starting from scratch, but not upgrade worthy if you already have the S2 IMO.
ukcatfan
02-11-2008, 04:59 PM
Thank you for the feedback. I am planning on getting the Nikon D80 or the Canon Rebel Xti sometime in the future (way in the future), but was thinking of upgrading the S2 to the S5 because a) I like the higher MP b) was interested in the hot shoe c) the higher ISO would be nice as I beleive the 800 ISO of the S5 is better than the 400 ISO of the S2 and d) like the idea of the sports mode as the S2 doesn't have one.
But that will all have to wait. I just took my camera around town for some shooting and whenever I was using the zoom I was getting an E18 error, so I'll have to look into what that is and what was causing it first.
a) just be aware that higher MPs = more noise at comparable ISOs
b) very nice feature, but consider the price of the flash
c) sorry, but that is not true; the examples look like 400 is about the same on both, but 800 on the S5 is almost unusable and 1600 is pretty much completely unusable
d) You can do this on your own with any camera that has manual controls
Kevin
ukcatfan
02-11-2008, 10:25 PM
That, along with best Buy having the Nikon D40 plus zoom lense packaged for $649 this week
It looks like Buydig has an even better package for $90 less.
Kevin
MouseFaninQueue
02-11-2008, 10:37 PM
Aaarrrggghhh.
E18 error is happening more frequently now on the S2. E-mail sent off to Canon to see if they have any information. Otherwise it is going to have to get sent off for repairs, and of course it is no longer under warranty.
Tuffcookie
02-11-2008, 10:58 PM
I did just that; upgraded(?) from the S2 to the S5. I think I got much better pictures with the S2 BUT I can video much longer with the S5.
TC:cool1:
LMarge
02-12-2008, 07:11 AM
I was also thinking of upgrading to the S5 for the higher ISO and sports mode. My dh, however, decided to make the choice for me and gave me the Xti with the kit lens and the zoom. Both are good for everyday shooting, but I really plan to add a fast zoom lens to my bag (soon!) The sports pics are much better with the Xti than anything I could get out of the S2 and with the noise issue of the S5 at the 1600 iso, it made sense to go ahead with the dslr decision. Good luck in your choice - you may want to watch the ads - there's a new Canon dslr coming out soon, so the price on the Xti may drop a bit.
MouseFaninQueue
02-12-2008, 12:53 PM
Thanks to everyone for their input.
But I think I have come to a decision.
I'm going to send the S2 away for repairs and see what Canon Canada has to say on a cost for fixing it.
In the meantime I am going to save my $$ to buy the new Pentax K200D DSLR when it comes out in March.
Again thnx to everyone for their input. It was really appreciated!!
red1der1
02-17-2008, 03:20 PM
How well does this camera take pictures at nightime or indoors with poor lighting??? I am looking to upgrade my tiny Kodak camera. It takes great pictures during the daytime, but takes terrible nightime pictures. I have no pics from any nightime parades in WDW cause my camera just plain stinks. From dusk on, it's useless. I have been doing some research and like what this camera has to offer. But I want to make sure this camera will give me what I am missing with my Kodak. Can those who have this camera give me some feedback and maybe share some pics to show me the quality.
Also, tell me about the battery life? I had an old digital that only took AA batteries and I said never again. If it doesn't come with a rechargable battery, I don't want it. This is the only thing making me holdoff on buying this camera. Can you give me some feedback.
Thanks!!!
ukcatfan
02-17-2008, 04:41 PM
Unfortunately, you are not going to get very good low light performance from any p&s camera from any brand. It is because the image sensor is just too small to gather much light. Most have 1/2.5" sensors, but there are ones with larger 1/1.6" - 1/1.8" sensors that will do a little better. Some have had decent results from the Fujis with those larger sensors, but just do not expect too much.
Unless the size and hassle of a DSLR is too much for you, the prices of them are not much more for a basic package with the body and a basic lens. You do not get the zoom range of a superzoom p&s though without investing in other lenses.
Kevin
red1der1
02-19-2008, 09:49 AM
Thanks so much for the info. I am not looking to have professional pics but a descent quality pic. There are some good P&S camera's out there that will take really good night time or low light pics. My DBF has a Canon SD750 and a Minolta DSLR. His P&S Canon takes awesome nightime pics. Even better then the DSLR. I am sure he could buy some type of lens or something to improve the quality of the SLR but why waste the money when his P&S camera takes great ones. The cost of the SLR would be too much for me plus just too bulky. I am looking to keep my cost under $400.00. This camera also has a much better zoom then your avaerage p&s. 12x optical. Most P&S are only 4-5x's. 12 is plenty for me.
LPZ_Stitch!
02-19-2008, 10:27 AM
The S5 is (marginally) better than just about all of the other superzooms with the exception of the Fuji S6000fd (which has the larger, high-ISO sensor in their compact F30 married to a superzoom), which is discontinued....
You will certainly need noise reduction software, to get rid of the grain ... but, the pictures will certainly stand for to 4"x6" prints. Canon takes a much lighter touch to in-camera noise reduction which leave more detail for PC software to work with....
Here's some good examples by Pea-n-me (http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=23005666&postcount=1295) ... as you can see, these are pretty good for a P&S in the Haunted Mansion, Country Bears, etc...!
It doesn't hold a candle to a DSLR with a fast lens, but it's also less than $350, covers ranges of 28mm to 432mm AND has great video capabilities with stereo sound!
ukcatfan
02-19-2008, 06:58 PM
I had a S1 and then a S2 and now a Pentax DSLR. I had no problems with low light shots with the Canons as long as the subject was not moving. Low light motion shots were very difficult until I got the DSLR. If you are going to take action shots like that, you might be disappointed with the S5. The Fuji mentioned would be a little better if you can even find one now. As for AAs, they are my favorite. A good set of NiMH ones should last at a minimum 350 shots, but likely more. I keep three sets around. One in, one spare, and one in the charger. Watch out for the 15 min chargers though. They wear the batteries out very fast.
Kevin
jpeka65844
04-30-2008, 02:37 PM
So, I'm still exploring my S5 and realized that I can take audio! I LOVE hearing soundbites from around the park (the entrance music at Epcot, the opening narration from Illuminations, etc.....)
Does anyone use the sound recorder for this purpose? Any luck? What are some other not-to-miss sounds???
hmerritt
05-04-2008, 03:55 PM
Looking to replace my G3 that died on our last trip and it's amazing how many differing reviews there are regarding the S5. For as many "i love this camera" reviews I've read, I've read just as many "quality is horrible" reviews. How can there be so many differing reviews on the same camera? At what point does the noise at high ISO really show-what size pics? I love to crop my pics, but never print out more than 4x6, maybe some 5x7 and rarely a 8x10.
Can anyone who has this camera share pics from Disney? I'd love to see. Or anyone who has an s3 or s5 share opinions. I've got to get a camera desperately and this is absolutely driving me crazy.
thanks-
Heather
SrisonS
05-04-2008, 08:16 PM
I have an S3, and I Love It!!!! And 8x10's come out really good....if you find a nice place to print them from (i.e. mpix.com ;) ). And you can look in my Photobucket for Disney Pictures I've taken. They're all from my S3. Oh yeah, I mainly use ISO 100, with the occasional ISO 80. Nothing higher though, because I'm afraid of noise. And I don't have any noise removal software....yet.
AndrewWG
05-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Have you checked out this thread? It should answer all of your questions on S2, S3 and S5 cameras with probably some S1 pics thrown in!
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546&page=99
MomAndrea
05-05-2008, 08:36 AM
I tried to post in the thread dedicated to the S3 and S5 but for some reason it doesn't want to load for me this morning.
Here are a few of my first photos with the S5 that I got last week.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/MomAndrea/IMG_0145.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/MomAndrea/IMG_0221.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/MomAndrea/IMG_0078.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/MomAndrea/IMG_0177.jpg
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj31/MomAndrea/IMG_0123.jpg
hmerritt
05-05-2008, 09:51 AM
I am trying to decide whether to replace my G3 with an S5. Those turned out good- are they as sharp at 100%? And did you take those on auto?
thanks-
Heather
MomAndrea
05-06-2008, 07:44 PM
Thanks :). The pictures are very, very sharp. I took some on Auto and some on Portrait.
Zane_Anthony
05-20-2008, 10:34 AM
I am looking to buy a new digital camera and I knew this is where the experience was so I am hoping someone can help. I have always just bought a "cheap" around $100.00 camera and just taken pictures. Not much thought to it or anything else. Now that my son is getting more active in sports
(football, soccer, and track) and we travel a lot more I am looking for a better quality camera. I orginally wanted to keep it under $200.00 but I have read some great reviews and seen great photos from the Cannon S5 (around $300). My question is will this camera work for me?
1. I don't have a lot of knowledge regarding cameras, the lingo, the settings, etc but i am willing to read the manual and try...will this camera be way to difficult for a beginner to operate?
2. Alot of my pictures will be of my son playing football, running track, etc so I will want something that has a good zoom and does well with movement...will this camera do that if i figure out the settings etc?
3. I don't want to have to carry around tons of extra "equipment" , will i have to with this camera?
If this doesn't seem to be the right camera for me does anyone have any other suggestions? I went to circut city but the guy working didn't seem to know anymore then I did.
Thanks in advance!! :thumbsup2
Daysleeper40
05-20-2008, 12:40 PM
Hi,
I don't have the Canon S5 myself - but I know a lot of people here do and love it. Have a look at this thread for lots of examples of ppls pics with the S3 / S5 and discussions on using all the different features. I warn you - the thread is 104 pages long!
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546
I think it sounds good for what you are looking for. I am also looking to buy a bridge camera (between P&S compact and a full blown DSLR) and am pretty much sold on teh Panasonic FZ18 - but there are lots of other options too like the Olympus SP-560 and loads of Fuji superzooms.
The top end bridge cameras all seem to get very similar reviews so it might be best to get a list together and then take yourself to a shop to get the feel of each.
Frantasmic
05-20-2008, 12:49 PM
1. I don't have a lot of knowledge regarding cameras, the lingo, the settings, etc but i am willing to read the manual and try...will this camera be way to difficult for a beginner to operate?
I didn't either. I had other point and shoot cameras before I got my S5 last fall. I read the book, checked out some general photography books, and things make sense to me now. With the AUTO, sports mode, an the P (program mode), you can be shooting good pictures, especially in sunlight (see below) right out of the box (well, unless you buy rechargeable batteries with it and then you have to wait until they charge :goodvibes ).
2. Alot of my pictures will be of my son playing football, running track, etc so I will want something that has a good zoom and does well with movement...will this camera do that if i figure out the settings etc?
Most assuredly. This camera does VERY WELL in natural sunlight and football fields.
3. I don't want to have to carry around tons of extra "equipment" , will i have to with this camera?
The only extra equipment you might need is a filter or two and an external flash, if you do any indoor sporting events.
I'd recommend this one, but also look at the Olympus and Panasonic (maybe Pentex) camera with the 18x zoom. They also get very good reviews.
cmp1111
05-21-2008, 06:41 AM
My DH bought us an S5 in Nov. for our anniversary. We love it.
The auto shooting modes really work well. The sports mode does fantastic on quick succession shots IF you don't need a flash. As someone else said, an external flash might help in indoor sports situations.
Movies turn out great, too.
We really do love it - and my DH who is not particularly photography savvy absolultely adores playing with all the settings. He's gotten some very "arty" shots that I wouldn't expect from a non-SLR camera.
LPZ_Stitch!
05-21-2008, 07:01 AM
My question is will this camera work for me?
Yes! :thumbsup2
1. I don't have a lot of knowledge regarding cameras, the lingo, the settings, etc but i am willing to read the manual and try...will this camera be way to difficult for a beginner to operate?
Right out of the box, on Auto mode, the S5 takes excellent pictures in a range of conditions.
It also has a host of "scene modes" that will take good pictures without ever requiring you to delve into manual settings (though, that option remains, if you ever want it).
2. Alot of my pictures will be of my son playing football, running track, etc so I will want something that has a good zoom and does well with movement...will this camera do that if i figure out the settings etc?
These all sound like outdoor sports ... the S5 is *excellent* in anything close to good lighting conditions; excellent zoom range, fast Continuous mode and excellent movies.
It's only when things start to get dark (like dim gym lighting) that you have to get more into the manual settings to get good pictures or invest in some good Noise Reduction software.
3. I don't want to have to carry around tons of extra "equipment" , will i have to with this camera?
All you *really* need with this camera is a couple of sets of rechargeable batteries and a bag to keep it in. While you *can* get additional lenses, flash units, filters, etc ... you don't *need* any of them. :goodvibes
hollieplus2
05-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Would you go with the Canon S5 or the Canon G9 if you had a choice. I'm looking at both.
Frantasmic
05-22-2008, 09:41 AM
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=113
Go here and compare the two. If you want zoom, go with the S5. If you want a little better picture, go with the G9.
bob100
05-31-2008, 02:42 PM
I just bought a Canon S5 and love it, great pics on auto with the ability to change many controls/functions like an SLR (but not at SLR prices!, I got mine for less than $300).
carolrie
06-02-2008, 09:53 PM
Hi all!
I am thinking of starting a small part time photography business down the road with just family portraits of friends etc. I am mainly interested in shooting on locations with natural light (we live near the beach). I know I have TONS to learn! I have been on the DISboards for some time for vacation planning, but not this board and was so excited to find it!!! Here is my question.... I have a friend who has a photography business and is wanting to sell her Fuji S5 for $1000. Would that be a good camera for me to start out with? What about lenses? Which ones would be best for my purposes? I don't have anything right now and am starting from scratch. What else would I need?
Are there any good websites you would recommend for tutorials or articles on taking good portraits. I read the sticky on terms here and also Mark Barbieri's site and they were awesome, soooo helpful. I have Photoshop Elements 6. Would this be adequate to work with my pictures? Thanks so much from a newbie!:)
Pea-n-Me
06-02-2008, 11:19 PM
There are some articles about Portraiture on page 5 here (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1794070&referrerid=70088). HTH
DisneyHolidayFan
06-04-2008, 12:45 PM
Would you go with the Canon S5 or the Canon G9 if you had a choice. I'm looking at both.
I have the S3 but was also looking at the G9. The S3 is so bulky!! I ended up buying the Canon 790IS and absolutely love it. We will use it for vacations and keep the S3 at home. Good luck!!! :goodvibes
lillygator
06-06-2008, 12:28 PM
I am plugging it in to the pc, turning it to view mode and then selecting the print button, the download to Canon comes on the pc, I choose that and then it just blinks a few times and nothing. My first card did fine.:confused3
wheelerkidz3
06-06-2008, 09:27 PM
i saw the other post about memory cards, and it got me wondering about the s5 and memory cards. we will be going on the panama canal cruise soon, and i need to get a bit organized! we bought the s5 last year hoping that i'd learn to use it before our cruise. so far, i haven't really had the time i wanted to play yet...so it is still pretty much being used as a point and shoot and also for short video clips. i love the fact that it does videos and that was the main draw for buying it. so, i wondered about the memory cards though...they seem to have some pretty big ones now, but what should i be buying? we will be using it to video clips while on our trip...but also be taking lots of pics! can anyone tell me what kind/size i should get? thanks!
figment52
06-07-2008, 12:27 PM
I am plugging it in to the pc, turning it to view mode and then selecting the print button, the download to Canon comes on the pc, I choose that and then it just blinks a few times and nothing. My first card did fine.:confused3
have you changed the batteries lately? They may not have enough juice in them for the download if you have lots of pictures.
DizneyNutz
06-07-2008, 03:29 PM
i saw the other post about memory cards, and it got me wondering about the s5 and memory cards. we will be going on the panama canal cruise soon, and i need to get a bit organized! we bought the s5 last year hoping that i'd learn to use it before our cruise. so far, i haven't really had the time i wanted to play yet...so it is still pretty much being used as a point and shoot and also for short video clips. i love the fact that it does videos and that was the main draw for buying it. so, i wondered about the memory cards though...they seem to have some pretty big ones now, but what should i be buying? we will be using it to video clips while on our trip...but also be taking lots of pics! can anyone tell me what kind/size i should get? thanks!
Your camera will use Multimedia memory cards as well as SD also. Here is a link where they are offering 2 gig multimedia cards for 11.00 and a 2 gig high speed cards for 15.00. A few of those and you should be able to take quite a bit of video as well as photos.:thumbsup2 I don't know anything about the brand, but saw the offer and just wanted to let you know.
http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-2-0GB-Multi-Media-Cards/dp/B000ES4V3A/ref=sr_1_1/105-3540656-0891630?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1212871848&sr=1-1
dr_zero
06-07-2008, 05:57 PM
If you have a wal mart or officemax around check them for some clouse out deals but as far as mailorder I allways use newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000070068+1053107930+1053307940&name=2GB
They have been around and are good if you ever have a issue so that is why I recommend them. (I dont get a cut of you buy from them wish I did LOL):rotfl2:
JR6ooo4
06-07-2008, 06:33 PM
I think the rule is "how many pics or video cips do you want to lose if you mispace a card?" or if the card fails, of course after shooting all the pics.
So, that said. If you have a 4 gig card you may nerver need to change it and therefore would only loose it if you lost the whole camera.
You are left with the failure issue. I have never had a card fail. But they do.
I have a 4 gig in my phone for music. but use two gig cards for my camera.
Mikeeee
polkadotladybug
06-10-2008, 08:16 AM
I am having problems with taking video on my S5, and I had problems with my S3. I think it's probably because of my memory card? I have a PNY Industries SD card - 2g. It takes photos fine, but when I film video, it skips and stops and just plain stinks.
What do you recommend? We are headed to WDW next week and I want to be able to get good video as well! I don't mind going up in size, especially since the S5 can record for longer (is that true?). I think I just got the cheapest memory card when I bought the whole shebang - I didn't realize there was a difference in performance, but I should have applied the well-known principle of "you get what you pay for!".
What memory card should I get? Or does the problem lie in my (week-old) S5 (and was the same in the S3)?
dr_zero
06-10-2008, 08:38 AM
I bought the RiDATA Lightning 2GB at 60x $7.48http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll125/20-183-050-02.jpgand have been happy with it but just ordered a OCZ Speed 150X 2GBSpeed: 150X (22.5MB/sec) $9.49 http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll125/20-227-155-01.jpgto have an extra for vacation time.
Alot of people recommend the SanDisk Extreme III 2GBSpeed: 133X $26.49. http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll125/20-171-258-01.jpg
All of these can be had online like Amazon, Buy.com etc I like http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000070068%201053307940%201053107930&page=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE
LPZ_Stitch!
06-10-2008, 08:59 AM
For the S3/S5, you shouldn't need anything faster than a SanDisk UltraII.
You don't need to waste money on the ExtremeIII or other superfast SDHC cards.
polkadotladybug
06-10-2008, 09:18 AM
So do you think the problem is in my memory card?? Here's what I have. I don't really understand the "specs" if I could even find the comparisons online. I know this wasn't expensive though.
http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/73/f/AAAAAmN_nagAAAAAAHP-vA.jpg
What is the SDHC? How does that differ from SD?
dr_zero
06-10-2008, 09:28 AM
So do you think the problem is in my memory card?? Here's what I have. I don't really understand the "specs" if I could even find the comparisons online. I know this wasn't expensive though.
http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/73/f/AAAAAmN_nagAAAAAAHP-vA.jpg
What is the SDHC? How does that differ from SD?
Good question I knew it was high capacity but that was about it so I went and looked it up, I had just took it for granted. They changed the way the memory stores the info so they could make cards that could hold more than 2gb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
thomas998
06-10-2008, 10:01 AM
its possible its the memory card... I have personally used some PNYs in a camera before an had no problem... but that doesn't mean they don't have some stinkers out there.
Before you decide its the card... I would suggest you format the card in your camera... then try shooting some more video around the house... its possible that it is the camera... if you are using a SD chip that is too slow I'm surprised you get anything recorded in video...
Also... You wont need anything faster than a ultra II for video in a camera... but of course faster chips will allow faster download from your card reader after the pictures are taken.
polkadotladybug
06-10-2008, 10:13 AM
it's pretty bad when my daughter's pink Samsung >$100 camera records smooth video - LOL - and my S5 doesn't!
How do you format the memory card? I admit that I probably never did that! I think I popped it in when I got the S3 last year and just started taking pictures and didn't have any problem.
Maybe I'll delete everything from the card and try to format the card. I'm going to be embarassed if that's the problem. Actually I'll be glad b/c I won't have to get a new one - LOL
thomas998
06-10-2008, 04:21 PM
it's pretty bad when my daughter's pink Samsung >$100 camera records smooth video - LOL - and my S5 doesn't!
How do you format the memory card? I admit that I probably never did that! I think I popped it in when I got the S3 last year and just started taking pictures and didn't have any problem.
Maybe I'll delete everything from the card and try to format the card. I'm going to be embarassed if that's the problem. Actually I'll be glad b/c I won't have to get a new one - LOL
After you have copied everything you want off the memory card...
put it back into your camera
on the system menu (the wrench picture)
scroll down to format and select
Now on the format memu use the arrow keys to put a check beside the low level format option
now select OK
The format could take a while maybe 3 to 5 minutes... but if I'm not mistaken that is one of the things Canon recommends to do if you think your card isn't reading/writing as quick as it should.
If you've never formated this card and you have used the card in a different camera than the S5... then its completely feasible that their are simply lots fo space left on it but none of the space is in nice camera friendly little plots.
bob100
06-11-2008, 05:38 AM
I've not had any problem with video skipping with my S5, (I use sandisk and kingston) but why not use the small Canon card that came with it for testing purposes?
DisDaydreamer
06-11-2008, 04:23 PM
I use the Ultra II in mine and haven't had any video problems. I agree with bob try that 32mb card that came with it to compare if the formatting doesn't fix the issue.
polkadotladybug
06-14-2008, 08:02 AM
okay - I wiped my card of pictures and then formatted it - took another video and it skipped again. It's like it gets hung up and repeats whatever is said three times, then it moves forward and gets hung up again and the sound is repeated. Not clear at all.
I will try the 32 mg card and see if it's the card or the camera. I certainly hope it isn't the camera! It's only two weeks old (it was a replacement for an S3).
polkadotladybug
06-15-2008, 06:09 PM
Well - I figured out what the problem was - after I went out and bought a Sandisk Extreme sd card...which I guess I didn't really need after all....LOL
apparently the problem was with playing the video from the memory card - I had stuck the memory card in my laptop and was playing the videos directly off the card. When my dh moved the videos to our laptop, the played them - they were nice and smooth with no skipping.
So that was my problem! :)
thanks to everyone who tried to troubleshoot!
jswalker1981
06-19-2008, 04:24 PM
Ok, I'm looking for a ultra zoom camera because I'm tired of my compact point and shoot with its puny 3x zoom. I am torn between these three cameras, and since the majority of pictures I will be taking with this camera will be at Disney, I think this will be the best place to get advice. Some factors I like/want in a camera: manual control, long zoom, great for fireworks, minimal noise. A couple of other features I really like is a tilting screen, SD, and lithium battery. I'm not married to those last three, but I do like them. So I see a lot of people like the canon s5 and panasonic fz18, but has anyone worked with the sony h50? I like that sony h50 has a large 3in screen, and I do prefer their zoom controls (on the back where your thumb goes instead of the shutter button), along with the night shot option. But they use that memory stick instead of SD. Panasonic FZ18 has the longest zoom, uses SD, has lithium battery, but doesn't have a tilting screen, and does have the zoom controls on the shutter button. Canon s5 seems to have the most supporters, which goes a long way with me, uses SD, has a tilting screen, and the feature to show only one color while the rest of the picture is B&W, but it has the lowest zoom of the three, and uses AA batteries. So, what I need to know is which one would be the best for Disney, and is the AA batteries issue I have really nothing to worry about.
Please help me. I'm tired of googling reviews, and checking out videos on YouTube. Thank you!
bob100
06-19-2008, 06:19 PM
for me it was between the Panasonic and Canon S5 and I went with the Canon. I liked it because of Canon's reputation, AA batteries (I prefer!) , SD card, different controls, quality video, etc. I think they are all about the same in price so you probably can't go wrong with any of them, you might want to check them out at a local store then on-line - these cameras are larger and weigh more than ordinary digital compacts!
jswalker1981
06-19-2008, 07:50 PM
I went to Ritz Camera in the mall, and they had the sony and the panasonic, so I got to handle both of them. They weren't that bad to hold at all. So their size isn't much for me to worry about. Is the Canon similar in size to the panasonic?
bob100
06-20-2008, 05:55 AM
I went to Ritz Camera in the mall, and they had the sony and the panasonic, so I got to handle both of them. They weren't that bad to hold at all. So their size isn't much for me to worry about. Is the Canon similar in size to the panasonic?
yes, you can compare both at www.dpreview.com, in fact you might want to check the forums there, both for canon, panasonic, "beginners" , etc. a lot of helpful suggestions
Karenj2
06-29-2008, 01:10 PM
I currently have a Cannon Elph 200(?) for my digital photography, and I like it 'cause it's small and I can take quick pictures, but it certainly has limitations - Pictures at night are lousy, I can only take 10-15 second movies, and it doesn't have any depth of field at all (very flat).
I'm in the market for a new camera, and I'd like something in between a fully manual camera and a point & shoot, that is still on the small side... I used to do photography (an OLD Pentax film camera), and would love to have something I can "play around" with, however the majority of the time I'll be using my camera for trips to Disney and events with my Viking (http://www.vikingship.org) group (where 1. I'll have to keep my camera hidden as much as possible, and 2. the pictures I take will most likely only be posted on the web). I also want to take some pictures at a local public garden called Longwood that I'll have printed in a large format size for my Library walls.
I've been doing some research (thanks to links on other posts), and DH and I had stopped at Best Buy yesterday to play around, and I think I like the features and feel of the Canon S5 IS. Can anyone give me any real-life comments on this camera?
Is there a better camera out there that you can point me to?
Thanks!
Karenj2
06-29-2008, 07:57 PM
anyone?
ukcatfan
06-29-2008, 10:01 PM
The movies would be better and you would have more zoom, but it will do no better on night shots. You will just not be able to do very well for that situation without a DSLR. The S5 is a nice camera, but it is still a p&s, so do not expect too much out of it. Not sure about your DOF comment. Too much DOF is the trait of any p&s, so I do not know how you would not have enough. Do you possibly mean not enough control to limit it? I can agree to that for a p&s.
I am getting the feeling that you will not really be happy with any p&s after using a SLR. If you still have any Pentax lenses, they will work on the new Pentax or Samsung DSLRs. You would have no movie option, but movies on a still camera are not the greatest anyway.
bob100
06-30-2008, 06:34 AM
I've had my Canon S5 for about a month (had HP digitals and old Minolta film SLR) I think you would enjoy the "near-dSLR" or ultra-Zoom cameras such as the Canon S5 or panasonic FZ18 but they are larger and weigh more, you won't be able to put them in your pocket. The larger lenses and motor for the zoom take up space but I think it's worth it, especially if you like macro shots and telephoto. look at the Canon S5 group on flicker (000's of pics) and the pics here and you can see the variety (the video is excellent on the S5!)
For $300 or less it was the best option for me, if your budget is greater and don't mind carrying those lenses dSLR may be in your direction.
Frantasmic
06-30-2008, 07:49 AM
I love everything about my S5, with the exception of low light photos. Anything above ISO 200 is very grainy.
If you want zoom, fairly light-weight, lots of manual control possibility, and excellent pictures in daylight, this is a good camera. If you shoot indoor like a gym or at night without a flash, I'd suggest another camera.
You should look at the Canon G9 with it's RAW capability, but it's still a point and shoot. Also, the Olypus 520 is supposed to be a good, yet inexpensive DSLR, according to various articles I've read.
Karenj2
06-30-2008, 10:42 AM
Not sure about your DOF comment. Too much DOF is the trait of any p&s, so I do not know how you would not have enough. Do you possibly mean not enough control to limit it?
Thanks - I've been out of "real" photography for a while now, so I've probably lost the lingo... What I meant was that with my P&S I wasn't able to focus on the focal point (i.e., portrait) and have the rest be more blurry.
I'd love to get a DSLR camera, but I honestly don't think I'd get the most out of it - half the time I'm trying to take a quick shot of something, or I'm in an event or location where I couldn't pack a camera that size...
I saw on the "How to take Fireworks" post that many people have the Cannon Rebel, and the pictures seemed to turn out pretty well - is the Rebel better than the S5?
(I'll have to do some more research at lunch...) ;)
Littlegirl
06-30-2008, 11:45 AM
Hi guys! I recently purchased a new Canon Powershot S5 IS and I'm still learning how to use it. Yesterday I took some photos that I wanted to print right away so I took them to a 1 hr photo shop. In my prints I notice that several of the heads are cut off, but looking in my viewfinder they are not. I tried printing one at home to see what the deal is. When I print a 4x6 the heads are chopped off but when I print with a border around (and picture is more like 3 3/4 x (almost) 5 the picture is like I see it in the viewfinder.
Is there a way to make all my 4x6 photos print like I see in the viewfinder?
Sorry if this is a stupid newbie question!
Hi! I've got the Canon S3 IS and I noticed the same problem - the pixel dimensions of the camera (mine is set to the highest, so it's 22XX by 21XX or whatever) don't exactly work out to a 4x6 ratio, so when you print, parts will get cut off. I know some of the more knowledgeable folks on this board can explain it better.:rotfl:
Anyway, I just had to keep reminding myself NOT to fill the viewfinder with the image that I want, to leave a little around the edges to allow for this. I like the low-tech solutions!
bob100
06-30-2008, 01:01 PM
Hi! I've got the Canon S3 IS and I noticed the same problem - the pixel dimensions of the camera (mine is set to the highest, so it's 22XX by 21XX or whatever) don't exactly work out to a 4x6 ratio, so when you print, parts will get cut off. I know some of the more knowledgeable folks on this board can explain it better.:rotfl:
Anyway, I just had to keep reminding myself NOT to fill the viewfinder with the image that I want, to leave a little around the edges to allow for this. I like the low-tech solutions!
hard to believe there isn't a high-tech solution but had my Canon S5 for a month and hadn't printed any pics! I'll check on that because some day I will want to print out a picture
bob100
06-30-2008, 01:09 PM
I love everything about my S5, with the exception of low light photos. Anything above ISO 200 is very grainy.
If you want zoom, fairly light-weight, lots of manual control possibility, and excellent pictures in daylight, this is a good camera. If you shoot indoor like a gym or at night without a flash, I'd suggest another camera.
You should look at the Canon G9 with it's RAW capability, but it's still a point and shoot. Also, the Olypus 520 is supposed to be a good, yet inexpensive DSLR, according to various articles I've read.
there are some solutions, Canons (including the S5) can shoot in RAW mode, see the CHDK programs - www.chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK if you own a Canon camera you should definitely look at the CHDK programs, also a
tripod (or resting the camera on a surface) will help with indoor pics without a flash.
Tuffcookie
06-30-2008, 01:30 PM
I concur with Amy. With practice you will remember to not fill the viewfinder up completely and leave a little "margin" around the viewfinder frame.
TC:cool1:
eleventhletter
06-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Ok, I'm looking for a ultra zoom camera because I'm tired of my compact point and shoot with its puny 3x zoom. I am torn between these three cameras, and since the majority of pictures I will be taking with this camera will be at Disney, I think this will be the best place to get advice. Some factors I like/want in a camera: manual control, long zoom, great for fireworks, minimal noise. A couple of other features I really like is a tilting screen, SD, and lithium battery. I'm not married to those last three, but I do like them. So I see a lot of people like the canon s5 and panasonic fz18, but has anyone worked with the sony h50? I like that sony h50 has a large 3in screen, and I do prefer their zoom controls (on the back where your thumb goes instead of the shutter button), along with the night shot option. But they use that memory stick instead of SD. Panasonic FZ18 has the longest zoom, uses SD, has lithium battery, but doesn't have a tilting screen, and does have the zoom controls on the shutter button. Canon s5 seems to have the most supporters, which goes a long way with me, uses SD, has a tilting screen, and the feature to show only one color while the rest of the picture is B&W, but it has the lowest zoom of the three, and uses AA batteries. So, what I need to know is which one would be the best for Disney, and is the AA batteries issue I have really nothing to worry about.
Please help me. I'm tired of googling reviews, and checking out videos on YouTube. Thank you!
I feel your pain, we were in Disney in June and my mother's camera died and I let her use my camera, a Sony H7, the rest of the week while I used a smaller point and shoot. She loved it so much and rather than trying to muddle through and help her buy a new one I just sold her mine so now I'm looking.
I've already ruled the Panasonic out but I'm torn between the Sony H50 and the Canon s5. My biggest concerns with the Canon is that it is already a year old and having to learn all the menus all over again. But I did like how it looked and felt (more compact) and it many more reviews available. But with the Sony I already pretty much know the menus, there are only a few difference between what I had. It was a great camera and I was always happy with the results. My biggest sticking point was the cost on the Sony but I was able to find though recomendation on dpreview a link that was $50 cheaper then locally. So that brings it down closer to the Canon.
I have a couple extra dou cards where I don't have any SD cards so there is that also to think about. But SD cards are on sale more frequently then dou cards.
Batteries -- there has only been one time I went all the way through a battery and that was while I was at Disney. I'm sure that AA would be more convenient. I always had a back up with my old sony because both camera we owned were sony's. But I think if I remember correct the H50 is a different battery.
So I didn't probably help you any, lol. Sorry for that but I appreciate the thread because these are two I was considering and reading all over and trying to decide is driving me crazy and where it really wasn't a concern if I picked up a camera right away now we've decided to take a long weekend at the end of July so there some pressure now to make a decision.
Kassie
Frantasmic
06-30-2008, 04:01 PM
there are some solutions, Canons (including the S5) can shoot in RAW mode, see the CHDK programs - www.chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK (http://www.chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK) if you own a Canon camera you should definitely look at the CHDK programs, also a
tripod (or resting the camera on a surface) will help with indoor pics without a flash.
I forget that it's available. I have tried several times with the various instructions, but it hasn't worked for me yet. Something is missing, either in the instructions (mostly for the S3) or in my brain, or both.
ukcatfan
06-30-2008, 04:40 PM
Thanks - I've been out of "real" photography for a while now, so I've probably lost the lingo... What I meant was that with my P&S I wasn't able to focus on the focal point (i.e., portrait) and have the rest be more blurry.
That cannot be done with a p&s, unless the subject is very close to the camera. That pretty much leaves out any portraits. On the bright side, it is easier to do a macro shot on a p&s.
I saw on the "How to take Fireworks" post that many people have the Cannon Rebel, and the pictures seemed to turn out pretty well - is the Rebel better than the S5?
(I'll have to do some more research at lunch...) ;)
Just like any DSLR, the Rebels will give you better results than any p&s. The problem for you sounds like size. I doubt you are going to find one that meets your size requirements. If you do go with a DSLR, I personally would not go with a Rebel. They just do not feel right in my hands and seem a little to "plasticy". I do like the next step up in Canon's line (40D), but I believe you would find them way too big. I have a Pentax K100D and have been very happy with it. Their current entry level model is the K200D. Depending on your budget, they make a pancake lens that would make it a little smaller, but there would be no zooming with that lens. It is an excellent lens optically though.
bob100
06-30-2008, 06:14 PM
I forget that it's available. I have tried several times with the various instructions, but it hasn't worked for me yet. Something is missing, either in the instructions (mostly for the S3) or in my brain, or both.
it's simply determining the firmware version of your camera and downloading the software ... but there are some counterintuitive quirks, e.g. the SD card needs to be locked. The CHDK programs for Canon are very useful even if you never plan on using a 1/33,000 shutter speed or smaller aperture. I use the battery function and time-lapse feature. Visit the S5users.com/forum or the Canon group www.photography-on-the.net/forum
dad2t&e
07-01-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi guys! I recently purchased a new Canon Powershot S5 IS and I'm still learning how to use it. Yesterday I took some photos that I wanted to print right away so I took them to a 1 hr photo shop. In my prints I notice that several of the heads are cut off, but looking in my viewfinder they are not. I tried printing one at home to see what the deal is. When I print a 4x6 the heads are chopped off but when I print with a border around (and picture is more like 3 3/4 x (almost) 5 the picture is like I see it in the viewfinder.
Is there a way to make all my 4x6 photos print like I see in the viewfinder?
Sorry if this is a stupid newbie question!
When printing there should be a box to "Scale to print" Just click the box prior to printing.
AZ JazzyJ
07-01-2008, 02:45 PM
I recently bought a Canon S5 IS for my son-in-law as a graduation gift from college. He loves it but like others have said the low light photos are pretty grainy. The use of something like Noise Ninja can help but will not eliminate all of the effects.
waytoomanywebkinz
07-23-2008, 11:04 AM
I have read a little about the CDHK - but I'm still a little confused - I'm not incredibly tech-savvy - so bear with me and my silly questions.
My dh, who is more tech-savvy than I (but is pretty clueless about cameras), thinks it's a very bad idea to download it (or whatever you do to get it) because it could null our warranty or mess up the camera somehow. So he isn't the one to ask to read up on it and see if we should do it.
I really like the feature where you can see the battery life - that is one of my very biggest pet peeves for the S5 - everything looks great - then boom - black screen and "change the batteries" - I always carry extra, but I'd much rather know how much juice I have left - so I can have the option of keeping it on and letting it run down so I can recharge them completely (I always understood that it was not good to throw half used batteries on a charger).
So can you explain - in very simple terms - how it works? Will it mess up my camera? if I don't like it, can I remove it? What are the advantages/disadvantages?
thanks!
Carol
dr_zero
07-23-2008, 11:11 AM
Having no idea what the term meant I looked it up and found this place.
1. What is CHDK?
CHDK is not just one thing! The term CHDK refers to free software – currently available for many (but not all) Canon PowerShot compact digital cameras – that you can load onto your camera's memory card to give your camera greatly enhanced capabilities.
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_in_Brief
Jeanne B
07-23-2008, 11:46 AM
There's a lot of CHDK posts on dpreview but I've never got around to trying it myself with either my S3 or A710. I haven't read up on it lately but I don't recall reading anything negative about it, people seemed to be very happy with CHDK.
bob100
07-23-2008, 01:35 PM
I have a Canon S5 and if you don't know about CHDK you are missing a lot
CHDK is a separate program that resides on the SD card. It is for Canon P&S type cameras (not dSLR) it extends the camera's functionality such as
1/33,000 shutter speed to over 1 minute,
smaller aperture to f16 , RAW image mode,
unlimited time-lapse interval (intervalometer)
remote controlled shutter with battery,
unlimited AEB exposure bracketing
open source scripts for using the camera as a motion detector
and yes, a real functioning battery level indicator
it's not a "hack" as it doesn't actually change the firmware on the camera
here is a link to get some infor on CHDK in general
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_in_Brief
but you should go to a S5 users group such as
www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershots5is or www.s5users.com
because there are some quirks to running the program such as the SD card needs to be locked. The menu was created by Russians (! but in English) so it's not the must intuitive layout but if you want to go beyond the auto and scenic mode especially processing the RAW file for more photoshop effects it's a must
Flanigan
07-24-2008, 08:33 PM
...My dh, who is more tech-savvy than I (but is pretty clueless about cameras), thinks it's a very bad idea to download it (or whatever you do to get it) because it could null our warranty or mess up the camera somehow...
So can you explain - in very simple terms - how it works?
The CHDK is merely software that runs off of your memory card and does not modify any factory programing or software on the camera.
Will it mess up my camera?
I haven't had any troubles, and have seen many others on these and other forums running the chdk as well without issue.
if I don't like it, can I remove it?
Absolutely, CHDK is not a permanent modification. To remove it simply reformat your memory card, or even easier unlock your memory card and chdk will not start.
What are the advantages/disadvantages?
Advantages... faster shutter speeds, the ability to record larger videos, scripting of actions, shooting in RAW format
Disadvantages.... learning curve, uses a very slight amount of space on your memory card, slightly decreased battery life (until you figure out the menus), there's a quirk where the camera does not go directly into record mode, but instead starts in 'review' mode (not sure if that's the proper term, but easy to deal with either just hold the toggle to record for a couple of seconds or push it to record twice)
It looks like the links to the wiki site has already been provided above, in the end it'll be up to you.
Alicia87
08-01-2008, 09:37 PM
Hi Everyone!
I was so excited to take my new camera out of the box, I just had to snap a couple pics of my babies!!! Haven't had a chance to take any of DD17 yet!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2027/2724152888_67cfbd9c76.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2723329311_48915672d1.jpg
I know these aren't the best pictures around, but hey, I'm just getting started :goodvibes
hjd0411
08-02-2008, 04:09 AM
Awwwww - they are cute!!!!! I have the S3 - I'm sure you will love the S5!!
bob100
08-02-2008, 06:51 AM
good start
for more tips & techniques with the S5 -
http://s5users.com/forum/
www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershots5is
Alicia87
08-02-2008, 09:18 AM
good start
for more tips & techniques with the S5 -
http://s5users.com/forum/
www.flickr.com/groups/canonpowershots5is
Thanks so much for the info Bob!!!
steery1
08-02-2008, 09:21 AM
Lovely.
Pea-n-Me
08-02-2008, 09:23 AM
Two cuties! :goodvibes
DVC Jen
08-02-2008, 12:37 PM
those are some cute dogges.
housemouse
08-04-2008, 09:03 AM
How do I use macro on this camera? It lists macro in the index of the instruction book but when I turn to that page there's nothing about it. I've gone through several settings playing with buttons, but I can't figure it out. Could someone help me??
Karenj2
08-04-2008, 10:11 AM
I don't have my camera in front of me, and I just recently got it, however if I recall correctly, there's just a button on the lense portion of the camera that either says Macro or has a picture of a flower. When you press that button, you get a "note" on your screen that says "Macro". If you hold it down you get the choice for "Super Macro".
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!
housemouse
08-04-2008, 11:04 AM
Thank You!! That's it! Now, I've got to play with it and see what I come up with. :)
Flanigan
08-05-2008, 09:32 PM
Glad this was already answered, I hope you have fun with the macro modes and post some pictures. Below is a recent image taken in macro (might have been super macro)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2729850331_732922c9de.jpg
lillygator
08-20-2008, 05:23 PM
it's plugged in, I turn it on to the view, hit the "print" button on the camera and the light turns orange and the view goes to black and no "menu" comes up asking me if I want to download new, etc???
any thoughts?:confused3
bob100
08-20-2008, 06:24 PM
it's plugged in, I turn it on to the view, hit the "print" button on the camera and the light turns orange and the view goes to black and no "menu" comes up asking me if I want to download new, etc???
any thoughts?:confused3
are you trying to print something or download pics to a computer?
When I download pics/video I just turn the camera on, plug in the USB cable and let the computer device manager transfer the files, have you tried that?
lillygator
08-20-2008, 06:58 PM
yes...I am only trying to download....and my light on the camera stays orange and the screen on the camera blank, nothing!
MICKEY88
08-20-2008, 07:09 PM
it's always best to connect using a card reader..
lillygator
08-20-2008, 07:11 PM
I think I can do that only on my laptop.
ukcatfan
08-20-2008, 09:25 PM
I think I can do that only on my laptop.
A card reader is as cheap as $5 from places like Buy.com and Newegg.com. You can sometimes find them free after rebate or included for free with a new card.
Frantasmic
08-21-2008, 07:39 AM
The process you are describing appears to be the DPOF function, according to the instruction booklet that came with the camera. Is that what you want to do?
You are selecting images based on file number, date, folder, or other pre-determined criteria using the DPOF function. I think you are just wanting to transfer all your pictures to the computer, correct?
With Windows XP and Vista, you should just be able to hook up your camera with the cord that came with the camera and then select that button until the light is green (not orange) and the Camera Wizard on your computer should take over from there.
DISNEYLOVER70
09-04-2008, 11:58 AM
I have been looking for one of these and every website I come to says not found?????
Thanks......
bob100
09-04-2008, 01:47 PM
I have been looking for one of these and every website I come to says not found?????
Thanks......
some of the other photography forums are indicating the Canon S5 is discontinued and will be replaced, (not sure if S6 or something else) apparently all you can get is a "refurbished" model S5 which may not be worth it, .... but there are other "ultra zoom" cameras - Olympus, panasonic, etc. for around $300 - $400, do a search, I like the Canon quality but in this case it may be better to go with another super-zoom "near-dSLR" model.
Metallicat
09-04-2008, 02:32 PM
I just saw both the Canon S3 and the S5 over at Amazon dot com and they had both cameras in stock.
I order stuff all the time from Amazon and have never had a problem with them. and returns are as easy as pie too. :thumbsup2
Metallicat
09-04-2008, 02:49 PM
You might want to look at the Panasonic Lumix TZ28. around the same price and size, but the Lumix is 18x zoom, wide angle, and is 10 megapixels. it has manual settings like a DSLR, and in the video mode, it records in HD. the Canon S3 and S5 does not record in HD and you can tell the difference.
My DD had a S3 but sold it and got the Lumix. she is very happy with it. they are also found at Amazon dot com. :)
Flanigan
09-06-2008, 11:15 AM
Have you checked circuit city's website? I was able to get my S5 from them and pickup in store, it was a nice hassle free experience.
Uncleromulus
09-06-2008, 08:31 PM
Mrs. Uncleromulus bought her Canon S5 at Ritz Camera Shop in April; hopefully, they still have them.
She loves that camera -- she is an avid scrap-booker and is always taking photos with it.
klmall
09-07-2008, 09:45 AM
Sending you a PM!
Pugrpooh
09-29-2008, 10:06 AM
I currently have a Sony H5 which I really like and I think it takes good pictures. However, I'm getting the bug to upgrade to a DSLR. I've been reading a lot about them and narrowing down the features I want. I like the Sony a300/350 and Canon xSi so far (although I think I'd really like the Nikon D90 but I don't want to spend that much now).
My question is for owners of the bridge cameras who have upgraded to a DSLR -- Has it been worth it? Do you see a big improvement over your former camera? How's the learning curve?
Thanks,
Lynn
Pea-n-Me
09-29-2008, 11:38 AM
My question is for owners of the bridge cameras who have upgraded to a DSLR -- Has it been worth it? Do you see a big improvement over your former camera?
Wow, that last one's a loaded question! Yes, and No. Sort of. At times. On the occasions I set it properly. Once in a while. Finally. :lmao:
Worth it? Yes. For me. I wanted to learn once and for all how to use an SLR. I've put a ton of effort into it for a very long time and I'm finally beginning to see some progress, though I still have a long way to go. Everyone's different here. Some buy one and use it on Auto and are perfectly happy. Others are able to master the whole thing fairly quickly. I'm somewhere in between. But yes, I'm glad I finally did it.
As for the learning curve, I've chronicled my thoughts about that here (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1794070&referrerid=70088). Hope you find it helpful. Feel free to join in, and good luck.
JimbobJimbo
09-29-2008, 11:54 AM
I upgraded from a Canon S5 to a Canon Rebel XSi. I have to agree with
Pea-n-Me that at times I see an improvement, if I have the settings right. But it was with out a doubt worth it. I'm having a lot of fun learning with it. There is definatly potential there to see a Big improvement.
zackiedawg
09-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Ditto to the other two responses. Moved from an H5 myself, to the A300. Yes, the potential for better photos in some areas is certainly there - high-speed motion, high ISO shooting for handheld low light, and the flexibility to shoot outside the fixed lens range of the H5. And in other areas, a DSLR will likely equal the output of a superzoom (in areas where superzooms perform admirably already, such as long telephoto, landscape, daylight, etc.).
And you'll likely find a DSLR will require a bit more attention to your settings, to the technique, and sometimes a bit more tweaking in post to get the most out of the photos (many folks don't realize it, but the photos they love from their P&S cameras are usually quite a bit more 'punchy' and colorful than real life, while most DSLRs are tuned very conservatively to return realistic saturation, color, and contrast...which means the photo may not look like what you were used to from the P&S and initially seem disappointing).
Also, keep in mind that to get anything close to the zoom range of an ultra-zoom, you have to spend comfortably into 4-figures just for lenses - even higher if you are trying to equal the sensitivity level of those ultrazoom lenses (usually F2.8-4.0 or so). Ultra-zooms are great bargains and amazingly flexible...and still probably the perfect camera for 75% of the photo-taking amateur public. I dare say many who have DSLRs would probably get better results, more consistently, and with much less effort, had they just gotten an ultrazoom.
For those who have been shooting with an ultrazoom for a while, and find themselves bumping into the limitations, or wanting to experiment and expand their photography beyond the constraints of the camera...plus are willing to accept the much higher cost and much lower convenience (alot more size and weight for a DSLR and several lenses)...then a DSLR is the next logical evolution.
I personally love my decision. I did start to find myself wanting to push into types of photography beyond the capabilities of my H5. Hand-held low light and fast-shutter night photography, indoor photography, and action photography with fast-moving subjects were the areas the H5 couldn't venture or severely limited me. I made the move to the A300, and committed to buying at least 3 types of lenses - one all-purpose walk-around lens to replace the one-piece convenience of the H5 (the Sony 18-250, which gives me 27mm to 375mm of range, compared to the H5's 36mm to 432mm); one low light lens (Minolta 50mm F1.7), and one big telephoto for wildlife to equal what the H5 could do with the HD1758 1.7x teleextender (Tamron 200-500 gives me 300mm to 750mm, compared to the H5 + 1758 range of 720mm).
My total cost so far has run just about $2,100, which I considered acceptable to pursue and expand my photography...and of course, I'm always keeping an eye out for a few extra specialty lenses to suit other desires (lens lust is a disease you cannot avoid once you get a DSLR).
bob100
09-29-2008, 05:29 PM
Also, keep in mind that to get anything close to the zoom range of an ultra-zoom, you have to spend comfortably into 4-figures just for lenses - even higher if you are trying to equal the sensitivity level of those ultrazoom lenses (usually F2.8-4.0 or so). Ultra-zooms are great bargains and amazingly flexible...and still probably the perfect camera for 75% of the photo-taking amateur public. I dare say many who have DSLRs would probably get better results, more consistently, and with much less effort, had they just gotten an ultrazoom.
The Canon S5 forums have plenty of discussion threads on people who have upgraded and the consensus is most don't regret it (but they keep the S5 for macros and video!) I'm not ready yet to follow the dSLR path and spend 4 figures on the camera body and appropriate lens but sure, someday it will probably get me. The big advantage I see for dSLR is the low light capability and now that's not a big part of my photography but if I had small kids or took a lot of portraits or night shots then maybe I would get the upgrading fever
Pugrpooh
09-29-2008, 07:29 PM
Worth it? Yes. For me. I wanted to learn once and for all how to use an SLR. I've put a ton of effort into it for a very long time and I'm finally beginning to see some progress, though I still have a long way to go.
Pea-n-Me -- Your answer gives me pause. I'm not sure I'm ready to put a ton of effort for a long time before I see better pictures. I don't usually shoot in full auto mode, but I also don't shoot in full manual either. I've read posts form people who have DSLR's who shoot mostly in auto or with scene modes. If I would do that, would my pictures be better? I'd like to think so if I'm spending that much money on a camera and lenses.
Zackiedawg -- I like the description of the a300 and a350 but the highest ISO setting for best quality pics that I've seen in reviews is 400 and that's not better than the H5. Do you find that you get better pics at higher ISO settings than your H5? Also, is it much heavier? I was looking at the 18-250 lens thinking I could keep that on for the most part. I was quizzing someone I know with a Nikon D50 and he has a similar lens and he says he doesn't change lenses much.
I took a lot of pics in Shakertown last weekend, particularly night shots with different settings. Some look good on the LCD but the proof will be when I download them onto the computer and see what they look like. I'm going to try and do that tonight and see if I'm happy with them.
DH is leaving for Japan on Sunday and he's always telling me how they have more advanced electronics there than here. Maybe I'll have him check out the camera stores while he's there and see what's new.;)
Do prices tend to fall after Christmas?
Thanks for all your responses!
Lynn
Pea-n-Me
09-29-2008, 07:50 PM
Your answer gives me pause. I'm not sure I'm ready to put a ton of effort for a long time before I see better pictures. I don't usually shoot in full auto mode, but I also don't shoot in full manual either. I've read posts form people who have DSLR's who shoot mostly in auto or with scene modes. If I would do that, would my pictures be better? I'd like to think so if I'm spending that much money on a camera and lenses.
I don't mean to be discouraging, just sharing my own experience. Yours might be very different. I think I probably approached it differently than many people do. I felt like I needed to understand principles of photography, and SLR photography in particular, before I really felt comfortable using my camera. Sure, I got some ok shots. But I wanted to get good shots most of the time and that wasn't always the case. I had no SLR experience whatsoever so it's taken me a while. I mainly use the semi-auto modes, haven't even ventured into manual yet.
I think what you've got to keep in mind is that photography isn't so much about what camera you have as it is about the photographer. I don't believe there's a magic bullet that makes you take beautiful pictures when you get a new camera. It seems to me there's a learning curve for most people (at least from what many here have shared with me.) There have been many threads here over the years where people post their first shots with their new DSLR and they're beautiful. There have been others where people post their first shots and they're problematic. I think with a nice balance of some study and lots of practice, you should be able to get decent shots fairly quickly, and you'll only improve with time.
Pea-n-Me
09-29-2008, 08:02 PM
Bob, I loved my S3 and still carry it with me in my purse. We have an S2 also. For me, learning to use an SLR was just something I always wanted to do. When I made the switch, I'd actually gotten to a very good place with the S3, so it was a little hard to go back to being a newbie again. Cost was a concern for me also (who isn't it for?) and I had a few other concerns about making the move, but with the system I bought, when all is said and done -camera, 3 lenses, and all other supplies - I'm into it for somewhere around $1200 - not too bad. (There is one other zoom lens I'd like to get but that will probably be it.)
KarenAylwood
09-29-2008, 08:04 PM
I can share my own experience...
Two years ago I got the Sony H5 for my birthday (as I called it, my "big camera"). I LOVED it. It was amazing. I spent days walking around taking pictures of just about anything. Did I know how to use it in anything more than auto? No. Did it give me beautiful pictures? Yes.
That said... about a month ago, I went out and bought the Canon XSi (with kit lens). I now have a new "big camera" and a new love :love: . I have never regretted the money it cost me and it was an investment. I now know how to shoot in full manual mode and I just can't get enough of this camera. It's absolutely better in quality, and even without the super zoom I took it over my H5 when I went to Disney a few weeks ago (only two weeks after buying it!).
I'm sure I'll end up buying a telephoto lens sometime soon, but for now I'm having fun playing with it. I absolutely don't regret the decision, only I am not that tempted to ever use my H5 again :rotfl:
The only thing that I DO want to mention is that I'm in a photography class. Do I think that has made me learn a lot more? YES. Do I think it's absolutely necessary to do if you buy a dSLR? No. But I do admit I had been waiting to take the dSLR jump until I had the opportunity to really learn it. I now think I could have done it on my own, but hindsight is always 20/20 now isn't it? ;)
I really think you can learn it on your own if you are excited enough about it. Even shooting in auto it takes gorgeous pictures. I've just gotten addicted to manual mode :)
zackiedawg
09-29-2008, 11:01 PM
Zackiedawg -- I like the description of the a300 and a350 but the highest ISO setting for best quality pics that I've seen in reviews is 400 and that's not better than the H5. Do you find that you get better pics at higher ISO settings than your H5?
I love my H5 - a great camera and I really grew with it, including selling my first photos with it and publishing my first photos with it...so I've got no complaints. However, at higher ISO, the A300 is in a 100% different league - as is any DSLR. Don't read too much into technical reviews that judge the high ISO performance of DSLRs against a benchmark DSLR, viewed at 100% viewable and looking for the differences. I've seen and heard the same lines, that ISO400 was the reasonable limit, and 800 was pushing it, with the Alphas. If you compare with mid-market or semi-pro DSLRs...it won't look as good; compare to base DSLRs, it's about the same; compared to any P&S camera at all - and it's orders-of-magnitude better.
I also routinely shoot ISO800 & 1600, and push to ISO3200 if needed, without fear. With my H5, I'd push to 800 in emergencies, but the results were poor and needed lots of work. I've got lots of examples in my galleries at high ISO...but here's a few ideas:
ISO1600:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/96114230/original.jpg
And not always with a low light lens...here's ISO800 at full zoom (250mm) on the 18-250 lens, handheld indoors:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/96980753/original.jpg
And here's ISO 1600 with the 18-250:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154228/original.jpg
Again with the 18-250 lens...this was at ISO3200, which is the maximum ISO for the A300. I still consider this plenty usable, and far far better than I could get at ISO1000 from the H5:
http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/101086662/original.jpg
Low light is where all DSLRs have a supreme advantage...even moreso when paired with a proper low light lens. Can other DSLRs do better? Absolutely. But all of them will do better than P&S cams...no contest. It just depends on how important that kind of photography is to you. I didn't really feel any limitations with my H5 for at least 2 years - as I learned more and more how to control the camera and tailor the shots the way I liked. Only then did I find myself pushing up to ISO800 or 1000, and wishing I could get clean results without all the detail loss...or thinking about taking candids or portraits handheld at night or indoors, which required faster shutter speeds in low light - high ISO being the only solution. I also found myself getting deeper into bird and wildlife photography, and needing more burst speed, focus speed, and tracking focus.
Also, is it much heavier? I was looking at the 18-250 lens thinking I could keep that on for the most part. I was quizzing someone I know with a Nikon D50 and he has a similar lens and he says he doesn't change lenses much.
It's definitely heavier. Even the smallest of DSLRs will be significantly heavier than the H5...even without a lens. Once you attach a decent versatile lens like the 18-250, the weight will be 4-5x what you have with the H5. And the size is nearly double - several inches larger in every dimension. And noisier - remember that DSLRs have a fairly noticable mirror-slap noise when snapping a shot, compared to the small electronic shutter noise of the H5, which can even be turned off for full silent mode.
With a versatile lens like the 18-250, you can if you choose make it a 1-lens option...pretty much keeping it on the camera all the time. There are those who would argue that it defeats the purpose of a DSLR by not taking advantage of the interchangeable lenses...but the same argument could be made for those who use their DSLRs in auto mode. It's personal choice. However, even if you think you're going to pick a lens and stick with it, the lens lust bug usually bites, and you find yourself wanting more lenses that can do special things. I knew I had to have more than 1 lens - I purchased my A300 along with 2 other lenses right off the bat - the 18-250 and the 200-500. I also knew I'd want to pick up a F1.4-1.7 low light lens at some point, which I did about a month later. I do keep the 18-250 on the camera most of the time though...the F1.7 goes on when I am planning on shooting low light or night ahead of time, and the 200-500 goes on when I am specifically out on a wildlife shoot. The 18-250 is my compact and convenient travel lens, all-purpose lens, spontaneous lens, and any other time lens.
Sorry for the long answer and samples - feel free to take a look in my galleries - you'll notice one gallery called "introducing the Sony DSLR-A300", which has hundreds of photos in it - but there are some labeled specifically within the gallery as high ISO samples and tests. I don't consider the Alpha the best DSLR at low light, but it does quite well and meets my needs, and offers some other nice advantages that sold me on it over other brands (namely in-body stabilization, easy live view option, flip-out LCD, great battery life, and fairly cheap and abundant backlog of Minolta lenses that are compatible with it).
Pugrpooh
09-30-2008, 04:53 AM
Zackiedawg, don't apologize for the long post! That's the kind of information I'm looking for. Your pics are impressive. Especially the full zoom of the graduation. Much better than what I got at DD's graduation last year. My oldest DD will graduate from college in May, so now you've given me another reason why I need to upgrade.;)
I also saw your recent pics from WDW you posted over on cruisecritic. They're very good also. Did you use your zoom lens on the wildlife? We're doing a cruise and landtour of Alaska next summer which is what got me thinking of upgrading. We're also going back to WDW for free dining in Nov. and I'd really like some good shots of the Christmas decorations and lights.
Did you look at the a350 also? Do you think the image stabilization in the body makes it superior to the Canon xsi? I like that one too, but of course I haven't handled either one yet.
KarenAylwood -- Did you also look at the Sony a300/350? If you did, what was it that made you choose the Canon?
Thanks for all your help!
Lynn
zackiedawg
09-30-2008, 09:23 AM
I also saw your recent pics from WDW you posted over on cruisecritic. They're very good also. Did you use your zoom lens on the wildlife?
The animal shots I took at Disney with the A300 were all using the 18-250. Though I typically use my Tamron 200-500 for wildlife shooting at home, it's too big and heavy to haul to Disney World so I stick with the 18-250 which gives me enough range for Animal Kingdom's environments.
Did you look at the a350 also? Do you think the image stabilization in the body makes it superior to the Canon xsi? I like that one too, but of course I haven't handled either one yet.
I did look at the A350. Personally, I don't think there's any significant differences between them...each has a minor advantage over the other (A350 has higher MP, which might provide a slight advantage for minute detail in cropping, but also can result in a bit more noise in high ISO...A300 has a faster burst mode of 3fps). For me, it mostly came down to price - the A300 was $100+ cheaper and I liked the faster burst mode, so it was an easy decision.
As for the IS in-body - it doesn't make it superior to the Canon or Nikon systems...it just provides an alternative. Canon's in-lens stabilization is probably a bit better than the Sony, Pentax, and Olympus in-body systems (they're all pretty effective overall though)...but what I like about the in-body stabilization is that I can buy cheaper lenses down the road and still have them all stabilized. The stabilized lenses are more expensive even used. Plus, some lenses that aren't available with stabilization for Canon and Nikon (such as wides, or low light primes) will still get the benefits of stabilization with the Sony body. That's why it works well for me. I picked up a 50mm F1.7 lens for $60, and it's stabilized. I can grab any number of used Minolta lenses from macros to big zooms and still get stabilization for cheap...and the older Minolta glass is very good.
You can't go wrong - I'd recommend handling all the DSLR bodies, and playing with the controls. See which system feels best in your hands, and which controls fall most naturally to hand. Don't worry too much about Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Pentax etc being better - they're all fine systems. Let price, availability of lenses you will want, ergonomics and layout, and features be the most important deciding factors.
Pea-n-Me
09-30-2008, 10:39 AM
Canon's in-lens stabilization is probably a bit better than the Sony, Pentax, and Olympus in-body systems
This is the subject of much debate on photography forums, pugrpooh - FYI. For a more in-depth look at it, you can read here: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/image_stabilization_body_lens.html Bottom line is it's personal preference - you roll with it whatever system you buy.
Don't worry too much about Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Pentax etc being better - they're all fine systems. Let price, availability of lenses you will want, ergonomics and layout, and features be the most important deciding factors.
I agree. I think it's important to take the time to learn about all of them and hold them in your hands before you make your final choice.
Good luck!
Pea-n-Me
09-30-2008, 12:24 PM
I found this when I was looking for something else. Thought you might find it helpful:
What Makes A Great Photographer Great? (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1828244)
KarenAylwood
09-30-2008, 08:32 PM
Zackiedawg, don't apologize for the long post! That's the kind of information I'm looking for. Your pics are impressive. Especially the full zoom of the graduation. Much better than what I got at DD's graduation last year. My oldest DD will graduate from college in May, so now you've given me another reason why I need to upgrade.;)
I also saw your recent pics from WDW you posted over on cruisecritic. They're very good also. Did you use your zoom lens on the wildlife? We're doing a cruise and landtour of Alaska next summer which is what got me thinking of upgrading. We're also going back to WDW for free dining in Nov. and I'd really like some good shots of the Christmas decorations and lights.
Did you look at the a350 also? Do you think the image stabilization in the body makes it superior to the Canon xsi? I like that one too, but of course I haven't handled either one yet.
KarenAylwood -- Did you also look at the Sony a300/350? If you did, what was it that made you choose the Canon?
Thanks for all your help!
Lynn
Well I was looking for a "basic" dSLR, and honestly only considered Canon and Nikon. Those are the two "big ones" in the dSLR world, and seemed like they had the highest number of lenses. I looked at the Nikon D40 (bottom of the line basic dSLR, ~$500 w/ kit lens) and the fact that it had autofocus in the lens and not the body deterred me. I wanted to be able to buy lenses that I could use on a future advanced dSLR. Since I wanted the basic dSLR, the Canon XSi was pretty much the top of the line between Nikon and Canon in the basics. It was relatively new and the lenses I buy with it I can use on future Canons.
Also, I went on Consumer Reports and it got one of the best ratings among the basics. I had decided it would be Canon vs Nikon before even looking at dSLRs. YMMV and I'm sure there are some that LOVE their Sony dSLR.
Oh and I loved the way the XSi felt in my hand. It just really fit me, so I went with it.
Pugrpooh
10-01-2008, 04:35 AM
Thanks everyone!
There's a lot to read and think about. I'm hoping this afternoon I will actually be able to get out and handle a couple of DSLR's to get a better idea of placement of controls, features, weight, etc. Maybe after that I'll have a better idea of what I want.:)
Lynn
PhotobearSam
10-13-2008, 03:54 PM
All taken on a day trip to Northern New Brunswick Canada with my Canon S5 IS.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4471.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4473.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4475.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4477.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4480.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4483.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4516.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4530.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4612.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4675.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4681.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4757.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4775.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4791.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4801.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4813.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/Photobearsam/Northern%20NB%202008/IMG_4814.jpg
edolyne
10-13-2008, 09:09 PM
All of the pictures are very nice, especially the composition of them.
PhotobearSam
10-15-2008, 08:46 AM
Thanks...I can't wait till I get a DSLR so I can try to get even better shots.
Okay, I just ordered my Canon S5-I've been wanting one and reading up on it with the thread here as well as other reviews elsewhere (I'm just bummed I missed the great Target Clearance on them! :headache: )
I know I need to get an extra (or two) SD card and DH has read up that I will probably want an SDHC card-does this sound logical and would an 8GB be a good size to get?
Thanks for all the helpful reviews from here and all your input! :thumbsup2 I can't wait to get my hands on my new camera!
Tuffcookie
10-29-2008, 07:14 AM
I don't know if an 8 GB SD card will work. I didn't even know they made them! I guess I haven't had the need for a memory card lately. I know for movies the max you can use in the S5 is 4 GB.
Movies may be recorded until the memory card is full (up to 4GB) or for a period of 1 hour.
The most I have is a 4 GB. And I have a ton of 2 GB's.
TC:cool1:
Very good to know! I have found some good deals on 4 GB recently online so I will probably go with those. Thank you for the input!
LurkandLearn
10-31-2008, 08:54 AM
Actually, this is a very personal choice! For instance:
1) I prefer to have several 1 gig and 2 gig cards rather than one giant one simply because of the "risk factor". I once had a card malfunction after a vacation and ALL my photos were on that one card! (I did manage to retrieve them with a recovery software package but you can never count on that.) Changing cards regularly reduces the chance of lost pictures.
2) I'm also pretty good at getting the pics off the card shortly after I return to my computer so my card is cleared and ready for the next session. I have a friend who is scared to do this because she thinks she's shortening the life of her card. <shrug> I'm not sure how much "life" she's actually saving but for me, it's worth it.
waytoomanywebkinz
11-15-2008, 11:31 AM
Hi -
I have the Canon S5 - I really love it - but I am itching to buy a dslr. I am looking at the Canon Rebels- but with all the numbering and stuff - I'm not really sure what I'm getting into!
I think that I want an XSI - but when it comes to lenses - that's what I don't understand. Can someone tell me what I might want to be looking for? I think it comes with a kit lens - 18-55 mm- and I've seen a package where it also comes with either a 55-250 or 75-300 mm lens - and I don't really know which one to pick - or really - what the difference is.
What should I be looking for in a dslr and lenses? I know that I don't have an exorbitant amount of money to spend at first anyway - would it be better to get the basic camera and kit lens and get the 50 mm lens that everyone talks about?
This is very confusing - I've tried to google and read up on it - but I come away more confused. I need a basic take on it all. :)
And this may be may be my dumbest question yet - will I be able to see a difference between my photos from my S5 and photos from a dslr with a kit lens? I'm just wondering if I will be disappointed? I don't take half-bad photos - although I'm not completely wonderful either. Others seem to like my photos...
Thanks in advance!
Carol
ukcatfan
11-15-2008, 12:42 PM
Before you decide, make sure you go out and actually handle it. I thought I wanted a Rebel until I held it. If you use the zoom on your S5 much, you are going to want to get a telephoto zoom like the ones you mentioned. If you find yourself needing better performance in low light, then consider the 50mm. As for telling the difference, in good light and auto settings, you will probably not notice much difference. It is when you get creative with aperture settings to control DOF and low light shooting for example when a DSLR really shows its strengths.
waytoomanywebkinz
11-15-2008, 02:43 PM
so both of those lenses are telephoto? Which one is better? I guess that's where I'm confused. I do use the zoom on my S5. I love to take nature pix - birds, animals outside, etc and zooming is a great thing. I also have issues with low-light - especially indoor things - like school awards assemblies in a lit auditorium but you are in the back - trying to take a photo and the flash doesn't help at all. Plus kids sporting events - like soccer - that are played in the evening when the sun is going down but the field lights are up - but the pics don't come out very well if you zoom in.
ukcatfan
11-15-2008, 04:08 PM
I use Pentax, so cannot help you on the particular lens choice. For low light sporting events, I doubt either will be good enough to blow you away, but should be a little better than the S5 just because the ISO 1600 is usable on a DSLR. You really need a zoom that is f/2.8 all the way through the range, but those start at about $800.
bob100
11-15-2008, 05:47 PM
I guess that's where I'm confused. I do use the zoom on my S5. I love to take nature pix - birds, animals outside, etc and zooming is a great thing. I also have issues with low-light - especially indoor things - like school awards assemblies in a lit auditorium but you are in the back - trying to take a photo and the flash doesn't help at all. Plus kids sporting events - like soccer - that are played in the evening when the sun is going down but the field lights are up - but the pics don't come out very well if you zoom in.
if you itching to get a dSLR go right ahead but just to let you know, your Canon S5 can take good indoor pics in low light situations without a flash such as in an auditorium or night time sports. You need to turn off the "safety shift" in the main menu and use Tv mode and higher ISO levels,
here is one example
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/3012877450_7e305a4cc7_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/3012874664_8c136854b2_m.jpg
do a search for S5 and concerts http://flickr.com/cameras
you will find plenty of low light actions photos where people have used the S5 for indoor basketball games, music concerts, etc.
www.s5users.com/forum
Cdash
11-16-2008, 10:12 AM
so both of those lenses are telephoto? Which one is better?
The 18 to 55 is a good lense for things you are close to, and yes it is a Zoom, although it doesn't "zoom" that far. The 70-300 picks up where the 18-55 leaves off and "zooms you further".
It is hard to figure out until you buy one and start using it. I got a XTI about 5 months ago (at Costco as part of a package) then returned it 2 months later when they started selling the XSi for nearly the same price. I have the 18-55 IS lens and the 70-300 (non IS) lens. It's a good camera, the lenses give you a good starting point. Between the two of them, they cover you pretty good, except low light conditions. Thats when you hear people talk about the "nifty 50", which is a fixed 50mm f/1.8 lense (meaning the aperature can open wide letting in more light) and is less than $100. That is my next purchase.
Then you start reading websites and hear about lenses like Tamarons new 17-270, which is like having the two lenses that came with my camera, in one (no having to switch lenses to go from wide to zoom). Many people call this a walk around lens, since it will cover about 90% of your shooting needs.
If you interested, check Costco. The are now selling the XSi with the 18-55 IS and the 55-250 IS for $850 (not too bad a price and a great return policy) It is a good kit to get you started!!
Pea-n-Me
11-16-2008, 10:35 AM
I bumped up The Learning Curve thread for you. Good luck.
jakoky
11-21-2008, 09:33 AM
hi, want to ask all my dis friends this question...right now i have a canon s5 which i do love....love the good pics and the amazing movie mode...i do find the screen too small....i have been reading mostly great things about the sony h50(used to own an h5 and really liked it, but the movie mode lacked)..anyways, i have ordered the h50 and it should arrive any day...just wondering if anyone on here as the h50 and can tell me about it, what the like and dont like, what the picture quality is like and also, how the movie mode is...i have read that it is really good in low light and has fast continuous shooting...both great....also, the lcd is great....anyways, i just want to make sure my decision to switch is the right one...i already have 2 people who want my s5...thanks for anything and everything you can tell me, good or bad....:thumbsup2
sharon
tazdev3225
11-23-2008, 11:48 PM
I bought the H50 when it came out in April and had it on my trip to Disney in October. I like the camera. It takes amazing macro shots and zoom shots. The continuous shooting is a good feature. It does slow down some when the battery is low. The only problem I had was that in auto it did not perform as well as I had hoped in some low light situations. I don't really use the movie feature. The night vision feature is fun to play with too. It's a decent P&S but I upgraded to a DSLR.
Rob_Drebel
11-24-2008, 07:47 PM
Do you have any pics of your Disney w/H50 shots?
tazdev3225
11-25-2008, 06:17 PM
I do have shots from my trip in October. I have to figure out which discs are which and then I'll post a few for you. I used my H5 and H50 and took over 1700 pictures so I have quite a few discs.
MHolleman
11-26-2008, 08:06 AM
I have last years version of the H50 if you want to see my pics. I just had a trip there in Oct. I have the DSC-H9 version. I think it is close to the H50, just minus a few upgrades. You can see my Disney Pics here http://melissaholleman.shutterfly.com/ I didn't delete the bad pics, I just wanted to make sure I had copies of everything so I uploaded everything to the website. I also have an adobe photo gallery that you can click on and see in my Signature area below. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
PS: This camera takes fantastic macro and daytime shots. Even night time shots with a tripod are pretty good. Not all will turn out perfect, but you can get some great ones with a little practice.
Melissa
tazdev3225
11-27-2008, 09:23 AM
Here are some of the shots I got with the H-50 In October. Sorry for the delay but I had trouble getting some of them onto photobucket.
This is from The Haunted Mansion with no flash:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03021_2.jpg
Finding Nemo Musical:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03435.jpg
Macro shot at Polynesian at night:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03325_2.jpg
Coral Reef Restaurant with zoom from second level and no flash:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03898.jpg
Infra-red of the Troll on Maelstrom:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03951-1.jpg
Enchanted Tiki Room - no flash:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC02963.jpg
Fireworks at MK with no tripod:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc335/tazdev3225/DSC03056-1.jpg
These are a sample of some of the cameras features. It has a small sensor so indoor shots are tough without a flash but are possible for a few good ones. Hope this helps.
S. C.
03-09-2009, 10:37 PM
Did it reach it's max post count?
tlenzendorf
07-08-2009, 01:18 PM
I am just now figuring out all I can do with this camera. I have a few questions, though... I am VERY new at trying "artsy" pics, forgive me as I'm sure my terms will be wrong. I sure wish I had taken or had time to take a photography class now.
1. To take food pics in darker restaurants, my thought is to go with the AV setting, set the F low and the ISO at 1600, then do the shutter speed at 1/60 or 1/80?
2. I'd like to maybe get a lens, not sure exactly what this will do? I like the photos that have a great/crisp focal point and then a blurry background or surroundings. Something that would also let me zoom in further and more clearly and isn't horribly expensive. I have no idea if I can get 1 lens to do all of those things and still be $100 or less :laughing:
Thanks in advance! I'm sure I'll think of more questions :goodvibes
Tuffcookie
07-08-2009, 02:40 PM
Hi! I have the S5 and as far as I know you cannot get interchangable lenses. The S5 is still considered a point and shoot. To get interchangable lenses you need to step up to a DSLR.
To get food pics in a dark restaurant with a point and shoot, you are right in setting the F stop low. Since food does not move :rotfl: I would probably go with a much slower speed than what you suggested. And forget the 1600 ISO, nothing higher than 400. Look at what your subject looks like in the monitor and adjust the speed until you get the look that you want. (And use something as a mini tripod because there's no way when you have a low speed to keep from moving!)
TC:cool1:
Frantasmic
07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
What Tuffcookie said. For low light food shots, you should be able to get a small tripod, scoot everyone way from the table, set to M(anual) and no zoom with Aperture at 3.2 or whatever the lowest setting is, and Shutter of 1/4 or so. ISO about 200.
You can add a teleconverter to the S5 (google teleconverter and S5) and get a longer reach, but your pictures at max zoom will be anything but clear.
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-TC-DC58B-Converter-Digital-Camera/dp/B0009NEUOA
Another option is to contact the poster b100 (for questions), google CHDK for the Canon S5 and see if you want to attempt to install this software for added capabilities for the S5. He was quite good at using the CHDK capabilities for his S5. Additionally, research into high def pictures to learn how to take 3 pictures (one correctly exposed, one overexposed, and one underexposed) and then merge them into a single photograph. That will help with your clarity.
The S5 is a great camera, but you need to do some extra work to get decent shots at lower light levels and even then, it's not superb.
tlenzendorf
07-08-2009, 03:34 PM
So what you are saying is food pictures take a bit of time and I'll be lucky if I get any before my family snarfs it all down :laughing:
I think I'll skip a lens until I'm better from the sounds of it(or til I get a better camera). But I will check into the software, thanks!
Next question, fireworks? Should I just use the fireworks setting or do the settings myself? And if so what should I use?
Thanks for your help Tuff and Frantasmic!
Pea-n-Me
07-08-2009, 06:17 PM
I am an S3 user (and now have a dSLR). I agree with the previous folks, especially the parts about the ISO and using a small tripod.
I would try to set up your food pics in a way that gets as much light as possible, without relying on high ISO or flash. Sometimes this is as easy as moving a dish a bit on the table, sitting near a window, or just asking someone to move out of the light for a second. The biggest secret of all is that you must keep the camera perfectly still if you want sharp and no blur.
For fireworks, the same holds true. You have to keep the camera still. You might want to look into a gorillapod which can wrap itself around poles and such. Try using the fireworks setting for ease of use as long as you have a tripod/gorillapod. There is a longer shutter speed so even the slightest movement during that time will cause blur.
I agree with using Aperture Priority if you like bokeh (blurred backgrounds). You can adjust the aperture using the arrows on the back, but it's limited how wide the aperture can go on it. Some of the semi-auto modes will do the same thing, like portrait and night portrait modes.
You have an excellent zoom already, you shouldn't need much more than that in most situations.
There is a really long running thread here for S3/S5 users, you should read through it, you'll get lots of other ideas there. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1235546&referrerid=70088
Good luck, and have fun! :wizard:
ukcatfan
07-08-2009, 07:24 PM
About the only way to get the blurred background on a p&s camera is to get as far away from your subject as possible and zoom in on it while also using the lowest aperture. This can be difficult in crowds. You can also get really close to get this effect, but this will only work on small objects. People are too large for this method.
Frantasmic
07-08-2009, 08:37 PM
I don't think you will have this extreme, but here's a handheld shot of a table in candlelight I did from the S5. I don't know of any restaurants at Disney that are this dark.
This one is 1/8 sec at f3.2 ISO 200
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/164203/020.JPG
Frantasmic
07-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Here's more of what you are likely to encounter as far as darkness goes. Some restaurants will be kind of in between my worst case scenario above and this one.
This one is 1/13 sec at f3.2 ISO 100
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/164203/confirmation%20013.JPG
Frantasmic
07-08-2009, 09:01 PM
So what you are saying is food pictures take a bit of time and I'll be lucky if I get any before my family snarfs it all down
No, not really. You only need to take the extra special care (tripod, and longer exposures) with the dark dinners. The others, you should be able to take hand-held at 1/30 to 1/80, IMO
tlenzendorf
07-08-2009, 09:34 PM
I think I'm getting this down! Thanks so much for the help and for the link to the other thread. That is very helpful! I'm pretty new at a "nice" camera and it can be very confusing.
Pea-n-Me
07-09-2009, 12:59 PM
Here are some food/restaurant pics I shot with my S3. All were handheld - very still. (White balance is off on a couple of them. :scared: )
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/IMG_6920_f.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/IMG_7834_f.jpg
(Photo contest winner.)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/IMG_0904_f.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/IMG_9962_e-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/IMG_6415_e.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/Valentines.jpg
tlenzendorf
07-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Wow, great photos! I've been reading up on the other thread, so I'm feeling better about trying out different settings in different lighting, for fireworks, food, etc. I'm also going to get a gorillapod this weekend, too
canadianjovigirl
09-08-2009, 06:10 PM
Just wondering if anyone has used this camera at Disney. We are taking our first trip in November and i have only used it for concerts (the reason i bought it) and kid pics......
Any pointers on getting great shots at Disney and/or the fireworks???
Do i need to program a special setting like i did for my concert shots??
Should i use my high speed memory card or a regular one??
Sorry i am not camera smart and bought this one with the recommendation of others for live music shows and dont have alot of photography experience but am extremely happy with it so far.
Or would i be better taking an easy Kodak 10 mp with a 5x zoom???
Just wondering if anyone has used this camera at Disney. We are taking our first trip in November and i have only used it for concerts (the reason i bought it) and kid pics......
Any pointers on getting great shots at Disney and/or the fireworks???
Do i need to program a special setting like i did for my concert shots??
Should i use my high speed memory card or a regular one??
Sorry i am not camera smart and bought this one with the recommendation of others for live music shows and dont have alot of photography experience but am extremely happy with it so far.
Or would i be better taking an easy Kodak 10 mp with a 5x zoom???
I used the S3 IS twice at disney. It's a very capable camera. I would highly recommend learning how to read a histogram and utilizing it to judge the shots you take. It would also be beneficial to be more comfortable with M, Av, and Tv modes.
For fireworks I would recommend using M mode. You'll need a tripod or very steady surface. Set the camera's Fstop to a mid setting around F4(this is where familiarizing yourself with M mode helps). Then set ISO low(80 or 100) and adjust the shutter speed until the fireworks are exposed well.
canadianjovigirl
09-08-2009, 08:43 PM
I used the S3 IS twice at disney. It's a very capable camera. I would highly recommend learning how to read a histogram and utilizing it to judge the shots you take. It would also be beneficial to be more comfortable with M, Av, and Tv modes.
For fireworks I would recommend using M mode. You'll need a tripod or very steady surface. Set the camera's Fstop to a mid setting around F4(this is where familiarizing yourself with M mode helps). Then set ISO low(80 or 100) and adjust the shutter speed until the fireworks are exposed well.
Thanks but can you point a camera dummy to the right place to learn all this terminology and what it means???? Then i can print this and have an idea where to start....
Thanks but can you point a camera dummy to the right place to learn all this terminology and what it means???? Then i can print this and have an idea where to start....
The internet is full of resources explaining the terminology. Here are a few that look pretty good to me:
http://www.geofflawrence.com/photography_tutorial_shutter_speeds_and_apertures. php
http://digital-photography-school.com/aperture-and-shutter-priority-modes
http://www.aguntherphotography.com/tutorials/the-correct-exposure-part-1-shutter-aperture-iso.html
LaurieG
09-14-2009, 12:13 PM
And I need a replacement...yesterday!!! I am leaving on Wednesday morning to attend Marine Boot Camp Graduation, Parris Island and the week after I return my daughter is getting married. I can not imagine attending either one of these events without a camera.:scared1:
I had the Canon A620 and decided that I REALLY liked to take pictures got the S5 which I must say I am totally in love with, I got it in hoped of adding flash and lenses etc.. before making the DSLR leap, now I have nothing.
Any suggestions on what would be a good replacement? It would be something that I would need to purchase within the next 48 hours.
I appreciate any and all advice
Thanks
RBennett
09-14-2009, 12:43 PM
While I don't know a whole lot about Canon's (I'm sure someone smarter than me will come along) one option might be to just rent a body and have it over-nighted to you and that way you get a camera for your events and you get to try one out. :confused3
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