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klinkprincesses
09-06-2009, 11:50 PM
I just got an emailed confirmation for my dinner reservations. In it I noticed that it read that if the dinner is a buffet (mine is at Biergarten) the DDP inclueds ONE MEAL, not ALL-YOU-CARE-TO-EAT, in which you would be charged the full price of the meal. When we last went in 2007, I know this was not the case. My husband loves Biergarten and would definitely want a second trip to the buffet! Does anyone know the details on this? Is this a new rule and is it actually enforced? I'm really discouraged if this is the case.

MariDisney
09-06-2009, 11:54 PM
I just got an emailed confirmation for my dinner reservations. In it I noticed that it read that if the dinner is a buffet (mine is at Biergarten) the DDP inclueds ONE MEAL, not ALL-YOU-CARE-TO-EAT, in which you would be charged the full price of the meal. When we last went in 2007, I know this was not the case. My husband loves Biergarten and would definitely want a second trip to the buffet! Does anyone know the details on this? Is this a new rule and is it actually enforced? I'm really discouraged if this is the case.

Could you copy and paste what you got? I just made an ADR for there a few days ago and don't see what you are referring to.

faindrops27
09-06-2009, 11:56 PM
No, I never heard of that.. It is a buffet. Meaning. You go up as many times. As you want.
Ok, I just read what it says that. Within my Boma Ressie. But, I can assure you. That is not the case.

TLSnell1981
09-07-2009, 12:07 AM
No, I never heard of that.. It is a buffet. Meaning. You go up as many times. As you want.
Ok, I just read what it says that. Within my Boma Ressie. But, I can assure you. That is not the case .

Disney is constantly chaning their dining policy. I wouldn't bet my mouse ears. (that the number of trips allowed hasn't changed)

carmie3377
09-07-2009, 12:08 AM
IF they do only allow one trip, then they are promoting a huge waste. Think how many people will pile on as much as they can on a plate thinking they might want it so they might was well get it on their one trip. I think Disney would see a higher food usage by doing this. If someone knows they can go up as many times as they want, I think they are less likely to get all they think they can eat. Many times, I'll get my plate thinking I'll want more but I'll just go back. So many of the times, I end up eating only that plate.

I'll be surprised if they did change to this policy. But, I have been surprised before :)

reducereuserecycle
09-07-2009, 12:12 AM
maybe "one meal" means you can eat one all-you-can-eat meal but that you can't come back...say 5 hours later... and eat again

Flametamr
09-07-2009, 12:49 AM
They probably meant to word it so it means all you can eat at on time at the resturant. Im sure there has been some wise person try come back later and hit the buffet again.

Even if this is a new policy I can't really seeing this get enforced. Can you imagine all the refunds the actual paying guests would demand.

Jeanieblue114
09-07-2009, 12:58 AM
yeah, how would they enforce this?
They would have to have extra CM's to watch you and your plate so you don't come back up and then confront you if you tried to get something.
They would spend more money paying staff for this.

I would think that if they wanted to put some limitations on it, they would do a family style setting and serve a tray of preplated food to each table like they do at some other restaurants. Or reduce the selection and quality of food on the buffet like they are doing as well.
Who ever heard of a one-trip buffet? your plate would look like a pig's dinner.
Not to mention the revolution it would cause.
I think they have enough problems to deal with since they changed the MYO snacks at Goofy's and the confusion once you wait forever to have the treat made now that they don't cover most of them.

Haley
09-07-2009, 01:06 AM
No, you must be misunderstanding it or Disney may have it worded in a confusing way.

All you can eat = all you can eat

Jeanieblue114
09-07-2009, 01:59 AM
I'm new to these boards, but is this just someone trying to start rumors or start confusion? (don't know if that happens intentionally very often around here.)

TDC Nala
09-07-2009, 02:04 AM
Biergarten is a buffet restaurant. It's all you care to eat for all customers, dining plan or no dining plan. No, they are not going to limit you to one trip to the buffet if you are on the dining plan. The notification you recieved is likely just poorly worded.

bluejasmine
09-07-2009, 08:02 AM
I agree there is no way a buffet has limited trips.. That would make no sense..

ShellyLynn3630
09-07-2009, 08:41 AM
No, wait this is on my email confirmations as well. She is'nt making this up.
It does say no all you care to eat, I may have to call Disney. This does look really bad.

Nadjalu
09-07-2009, 08:46 AM
Yes but then how do they determine who is on the ddp and who isn't? Do OOP people get to go up as many times as they want?
And if I remember right the wait staff only knew at the end whether or not you were using TS credits.

I too think there is some type of miscommunication here.

ShellyLynn3630
09-07-2009, 08:52 AM
It may be but I am going to call Disney today when I get a chance.(Unless someone else does first and post a response.) But all of my TS meals are buffet and they all say this on the email. Somethings has gotta give.

mouseketeer_mom
09-07-2009, 08:52 AM
No, wait this is on my email confirmations as well. She is'nt making this up.
It does say no all you care to eat, I may have to call Disney. This does look really bad.


Hmmm, this is very interesting! Waiting for someone to call and post. popcorn::

(I'm not on the dining plan or I would call myself)

Im_with_Dopey
09-07-2009, 09:05 AM
it is on mine too, and mine is not a buffet ressy, but at the top it says they can 'accommodate Kosher needs ' so I think they mean no all u can eat of the kosher meals.


"Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price. "

DDJen
09-07-2009, 09:07 AM
it is on mine too, and mine is not a buffet ressy, but at the top it says they can 'accommodate Kosher needs ' so I think they mean no all u can eat of the kosher meals.


"Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price. "



D'oh! You're absolutely right. It does refer to Kosher meals. You cleared it up :)

DonaldTDuck
09-07-2009, 09:11 AM
Who ever heard of a one-trip buffet?

Years ago we ate at a buffet in the Opryland Hotel where you paid up front, went through the buffet line and exited the area into a dining area and were not allowed to return to the buffet. They would have to redesign to accomplish this at WDW, but it could be done. I don't believe this one plate stuff for an instant, though. They know they would be crucified here, on other sites, and in guide books if they tried to pull that.

Luv2Roam
09-07-2009, 09:14 AM
This topic comes up every now and then and usually by someone who has requested a special diet.
I have not seen the wording or how it is worded, but I believe what is written is for those who require a specially prepared meal while dining at a buffet restaurant. (Although maybe it is on my ADRs too and I have not bothered reading it. ;) )

Nadjalu
09-07-2009, 09:37 AM
Ok, in my email this is in the print at the bottom:

"At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price."

Ok, this is how I read it. First off it says "meal" that doesn't mean one trip to the buffet or one plate, meal is meal.
Next it says plainly "does NOT include all you care to eat", meaning these are exempt from what they are saying. I take this as the "no sharing" aspect of the meal, because that is not addressed in the confirmation.

Edit ----- Ok, had my husband read it as well and this is plainly refering to the kosher meals only. So if you are eating at a buffet but require a kosher meal they are only going to make you one meal, not all you can eat.

Whew, that clears that all up.....had me scared 4 of our TS are buffets, we like to eat and get a variety of things.

TDC Nala
09-07-2009, 09:47 AM
Yes, this has been cleared up. The wording refers to kosher or specially prepared meals for persons with dietary restrictions, not to the regular buffet.

Jeanieblue114
09-07-2009, 04:25 PM
Years ago we ate at a buffet in the Opryland Hotel where you paid up front, went through the buffet line and exited the area into a dining area and were not allowed to return to the buffet. They would have to redesign to accomplish this at WDW, but it could be done. I don't believe this one plate stuff for an instant, though. They know they would be crucified here, on other sites, and in guide books if they tried to pull that.

I'm wondering if that place still exists with this format.
A one-trip buffet doesn't seem like a good business plan to maintain customers.
A lot of us like multiple trips just for the mere fact that we don't like our food all mixed together and want to spread it out on the plate not because we eat anymore than anyone else. (for example, i like to have a salad and then an entree plate and then a dessert like a normal meal).

Jeanieblue114
09-07-2009, 04:26 PM
it is on mine too, and mine is not a buffet ressy, but at the top it says they can 'accommodate Kosher needs ' so I think they mean no all u can eat of the kosher meals.


"Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price. "

I guess we have learned that taking something out of context can change its meaning.

reducereuserecycle
09-07-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm wondering if that place still exists with this format.

we went to Opreyland about 1 1/2 years ago and it was an ALL-YOU-CAN -EAT buffet....believe me...i took like 10 trips to that breakfast buffet! and they had a juice bar and I kept going back and getting more and more juice. and now that i think about it i remember the server kept saying you are welcome to make as many trips as you want to the buffet (and i thought, duh, it's a buffet and just thought he was being friendly) but that makes sense now cause i think they had previously remodeled before our trip so maybe that is when they changed it and he thought we were used to the old setup or something

clanmcculloch
09-07-2009, 06:37 PM
We also have special dietary needs (food allergies). We've never been limitted to only one dish each. The chef always comes back out to our table part way through our meal to check on us and see if we want to try something else or more of something. He then returns a while later to see if we want anything else or dessert. Of course we do try to make our reservations at less busy times. When we've been at busier times, we know that chefs simply can't come out as often and a waiter gets him when we're ready for dessert.

LaughingGravy
09-07-2009, 06:59 PM
All You Can Eat--
after 3 plates worth, big burly CM taps you on the shoulder..
"Hey, that's all you can eat! Scram!"

OK, no one really uses "Scram" anymore.

MariDisney
09-07-2009, 08:05 PM
We also have special dietary needs (food allergies). We've never been limitted to only one dish each. The chef always comes back out to our table part way through our meal to check on us and see if we want to try something else or more of something. He then returns a while later to see if we want anything else or dessert. Of course we do try to make our reservations at less busy times. When we've been at busier times, we know that chefs simply can't come out as often and a waiter gets him when we're ready for dessert.

I think this is (obviously) the case where the chef makes modifications of the food within the kitchen. The "one plate" rule would come into play for a mean such as a kosher meal that is prepared off-site and brought in to the customer.

TDC Nala
09-07-2009, 10:20 PM
Kosher meals, from what I understand, need to be prepared in a separate kosher kitchen. They've probably got to be ordered ahead of time and brought in from somewhere else. Some severe allergies may also require that due to cross-contamination possibilities, but not all.

ShellyLynn3630
09-08-2009, 05:25 PM
Whats kosher anyway?

MouseMomx2
09-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Whats kosher anyway?

Kosher is a way of eating primarily practiced by those who are Jewish. There are strict rules about what foods can/cannot be eaten and how foods are prepared.

Avonlady1001
09-10-2009, 07:53 PM
This is what it says:

At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price.

What are all your interpretations? I think it's just poorly worded...a buffet is a buffet. I think one meal means what one PP said...if you pay for lunch, you get lunch...you can't come back for dinner.

MariDisney
09-10-2009, 08:19 PM
This is what it says:

At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price.

What are all your interpretations? I think it's just poorly worded...a buffet is a buffet. I think one meal means what one PP said...if you pay for lunch, you get lunch...you can't come back for dinner.

I think it has to do with the special dietary plates which need to be ordered in advance. It doesn't have anything to do with the DDP. If you need a kosher plate, for example, one will be prepared and brought in ahead of time. But, it will be one "serving" and not all you can eat. If you are like the vast majority of people and actually eating off the buffet, you can have as much as you like.

kaytieeldr
09-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Whats kosher anyway?
:rotfl2: Yeah, that's why most places changed it from "all you can eat" to "all you care to eat".

disneygirlinnj
09-10-2009, 09:56 PM
It's still considered ONE MEAL. Yes, they're still all-you-care-to-eat... but they're still one meal...no matter how many times you go up to fill a new plate. ;)

klinkprincesses
09-10-2009, 10:20 PM
Wow! I've been gone for awhile and haven't check this thread to see the responses! Thanks to everyone who gave their input. Now that I read it again, I agree that it sounds like it is in response to the Kosher meals. It is definitely poorly written, though. Thanks for clearing it up for me!

DCDisney
09-12-2009, 03:53 PM
To me it sounds like they are just covering themselves if they want to cut off a guest at some point from eating at a buffet or ordering refills of family style food. There are always people in this world that will exploit any policy and I think this wording addresses that and not normal buffet grazing or reorders on family style food. I do know that this has been an issue at Akershus because in the past you could order more than 1 entree as part of an all you can eat type pricing.

Tinker*Shell*Bell
09-12-2009, 09:37 PM
The Kosher meals served at all Disney restaurants are made offsite and packaged so the Disney restaurant can heat them up and not contaminate them. Kosher meals have to be made under very strict conditions, and just like food allergy meals, they must be handled only by certain people.
Specifically Disney Kosher meals are frozen, in a cardboard tray (think TV dinner) and come with new silverware in the package. They are brought to the table still sealed, so the customer KNOWS no contamination has occured in the kitchen.
With all that work it makes perfect sense why even at a buffet location, disney considers 1 kosher plate to be the entire meal. No refills on Kosher food. (I can not even imagine the cost to disney if they allowed unlimited plates of a food that had to be purchased from a specialty manufacturer, and served under such strict conditions.)

One meal = one plate is ONLY for Kosher meals. Do not worry that they are changing the Disney Buffets...not yet anyway :)

Golf4food
09-14-2009, 03:57 PM
Whats kosher anyway?

I think it has something to do with pickles... or maybe hot dogs... ;)