View Full Version : Haunted mansion. People do this?!
mousesweetie
08-26-2009, 01:27 PM
Ok I came across this today looking for something else and I wanted to share it here. I've been thinking..wow..are you kidding me? I mean, I'm starting to not be shocked by much of what people try in the parks anymore. But this kinda creeps me out.
Discuss please...
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dawnandnala
08-26-2009, 01:32 PM
Ok I came across this today looking for something else and I wanted to share it here. I've been thinking..wow..are you kidding me? I mean, I'm starting to not be shocked by much of what people try in the parks anymore. But this kinda creeps me out.
Discuss please...
http://******************/x-10719-Disney-Theme-Parks-Examiner~y2009m5d17-Human-ashes-scattered-at-Walt-Disney-World-Haunted-Mansion-again
This has been happening for YEARS and YEARS :(
CharacterFan
08-26-2009, 01:32 PM
This doesn't bother me at all. HM is the perfect place. For me it would be the Fountain of Nations in Epcot. If Disney would really allow it, I'd make it my final request.
swald91
08-26-2009, 01:34 PM
Well, I've never read that before, but I did read & never commented about someone going to the Poly & bringing their fathers remains....my assumption is that they were going to spread the ashes someone there-I think this is totally WRONG. My kids along with myself walk the beach & grass barefoot from time to time & the thought of that freaks me out. We just came back & we did no barefoot walking this trip. I think if this is something that happens & Disney knows it they should have certain places for it-I'm sure it's tough to control but I think that it is a bit inconsiderate to do. I love Disney but I think it's just wrong. My opinion!
CathrynRose
08-26-2009, 01:43 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
swald91
08-26-2009, 01:46 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
Especially if they had under ground urns...like the sidewalk where you could purchase your name & residence....have some that actually go in to the ground-good money could be made I'm sure.
CharacterFan
08-26-2009, 01:46 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
Yes, and tombstones. I'd want Figment on mine. I could see people ordering Jack, HM ones, and other sorts of characters or themes. Even Mr. Toad like the one in the pet cemetery they have at the exit. Have I put too much thought into this?
RMulieri
08-26-2009, 01:48 PM
Nothing new..been happening for years.POC is another popular spot
CandleontheWater
08-26-2009, 01:52 PM
I have heard of this happening at Pirates too. The problem is that people don't think it though, if they scatter their loved ones ashes inside an attraction, it will get noticed, then the ride will have to be shut down and the ashes cleaned out and deposited in the trash, where they will end up in a landfill :sad2: I don't think most people want their loved ones eternal resting spot be a garbage dump!
CharacterFan
08-26-2009, 01:55 PM
I have heard of this happening at Pirates too. The problem is that people don't think it though, if they scatter their loved ones ashes inside an attraction, it will get noticed, then the ride will have to be shut down and the ashes cleaned out and deposited in the trash, where they will end up in a landfill :sad2: I don't think most people want their loved ones eternal resting spot be a garbage dump!
Is it a Disney landfill? Sadly, I'd still be happy with that. Anywhere there is Disney history.
Maybe they could offer memorial stones. They could place them around HM and ToT and then loved ones could still be a part of Disney.
Okay, I'm going to stop thinking about death now. I'm leaving for Disney in less then an hour. Thinking happy thoughts.
CathrynRose
08-26-2009, 01:58 PM
I have heard of this happening at Pirates too. The problem is that people don't think it though, if they scatter their loved ones ashes inside an attraction, it will get noticed, then the ride will have to be shut down and the ashes cleaned out and deposited in the trash, where they will end up in a landfill :sad2: I don't think most people want their loved ones eternal resting spot be a garbage dump!
Yeah, but if you dump it in water, there's nothing to clean up. :)
mom2taylorandemily
08-26-2009, 02:07 PM
For me, it would be the water around Cinderella's Castle!!! That way I would eternally be at the Castle.
Tribilín
08-26-2009, 02:22 PM
Being buried in the HM´s cemetery would be so cool... I love HM. But having your ashes scattered on the floor, ugh!
Noelle
08-26-2009, 02:26 PM
The Seven Seas Lagoon is awefully large and I am sure that there would be tons of spots that are not supervised at all times. ;)
funfam
08-26-2009, 02:28 PM
From what I have heard (rumor only) Disney does not clean up ashes and put them into a landfill. I heard that there is a special protocall for handling this type of cleanup.
swald91
08-26-2009, 02:34 PM
Some people don't seemed to be bothered by this, but if I was the worker & I came across them I'd dump them in the nearest garbage-now if Disney has a place for them then that's where people should put them. I have nothing against people wanting to be there forever-heck I'd like it myself but let's face it people go there for vacations & not to stumble across another persons remains.
Haley
08-26-2009, 02:38 PM
I've heard of people doing this-- I don't think it's thaaaat big of a deal. I mean I wouldn't want someone dumping the remains on the floor of my hotel room-- but putting it in water or a huge ride like HM doesn't affect me really..lol
I had a friend once who stood on some moutain and tossed her father's cremains into the air-- but the wind changed and the ashes went all over her and even in her mouth-- now THAT grosses me out... :eek:
mousesweetie
08-26-2009, 02:52 PM
As far as the water rides and people dumping them there. Uhm don't they like drain the water and stuff on downtime once a year? Like on Splash every January? :confused3 And if so, wouldn't their beloved's ashes be going down the drain? IDK I just wouldn't want my remains going down the drain lol.
Then there are people who bottle up water from those rides bc they love the smell of it or whatever..lol they would have the persons ashes in there possibly. ew. lol
Haley
08-26-2009, 02:53 PM
Then there are people who bottle up water from those rides bc they love the smell of it or whatever..lol they would have the persons ashes in there possibly. ew. lol
That adds to the "disney scent"... :rotfl2:
DISHoppy
08-26-2009, 02:57 PM
As far as the water rides and people dumping them there. Uhm don't they like drain the water and stuff on downtime once a year? Like on Splash every January? :confused3 And if so, wouldn't their beloved's ashes be going down the drain? IDK I just wouldn't want my remains going down the drain lol.
Then there are people who bottle up water from those rides bc they love the smell of it or whatever..lol they would have the persons ashes in there possibly. ew. lol
Anywhere you dump ashes they will be washed away. :confused3 In any case, I would love to be part of WDW for eternity. Now if that could just be on Space Mountain.... :)
-Kevin
ShannonMB
08-26-2009, 02:59 PM
Huh, I never thought of that. Time to go change my will...:rolleyes1
Seriously, though, maybe not the whole urn-full, but a little sprinkle?
princesspiglet
08-26-2009, 03:11 PM
I have already instructed my DH and DD to deposit my ashes at WDW. I want some to go in the lake at the Wilderness Lodge, some to go in the fountain at Epcot, some to be sprinkled in the moat around the castle, and some to be sprinkled on the grounds of the Beach Club. That should about cover it.
baketank
08-26-2009, 03:11 PM
Maybe they could put tomstones in the Haunted Mansion Cemetery, but I would bet they would require that they would fit in with the other tombstones that Disney has in there now. People would have to make up something to go with their name or how they died:
Here lies Jake
He was burned at the stake
They sprinkled his ashes on this ride
It was his last request before he died
Disneyliscious
08-26-2009, 03:14 PM
I had never even thought of people doing this. I dont guess it bothers me as long as I never touch or step into the ashes.....ew.
ms_missy66
08-26-2009, 03:17 PM
Well, I've never read that before, but I did read & never commented about someone going to the Poly & bringing their fathers remains....my assumption is that they were going to spread the ashes someone there-I think this is totally WRONG. My kids along with myself walk the beach & grass barefoot from time to time & the thought of that freaks me out. We just came back & we did no barefoot walking this trip. I think if this is something that happens & Disney knows it they should have certain places for it-I'm sure it's tough to control but I think that it is a bit inconsiderate to do. I love Disney but I think it's just wrong. My opinion!
Something interesting to note is that folks dump ashes everywhere. In the ocean, in lakes, on beaches, in parks, etc. With the airflow systems on attractions and frequent rain in FL, I doubt there is anything to worry about. I think part of the deal when you scatter your loved one's ashes is that they do exactly that, scatter. So the likelihood of stepping on a pile of them has got to be really small. Don't let the possibility of this ruin your fun of a lovely barefoot walk on the beach at the Poly! :)
If I could be scattered, I think I'd also choose the water around Cinderella's castle.
baketank
08-26-2009, 03:18 PM
Here lies my mother Mary
She was a big fan of the Disney fairies
We took her ashes in a can
And deposited them with Tink on Peter Pan
Here lies my beloved brother Bob
He killed himself when he lost his job
He left his ashes with his next of kin
So we sprinkled him on Space Mountain
PolyndianPrincessJes
08-26-2009, 03:21 PM
Some people don't seemed to be bothered by this, but if I was the worker & I came across them I'd dump them in the nearest garbage-now if Disney has a place for them then that's where people should put them. I have nothing against people wanting to be there forever-heck I'd like it myself but let's face it people go there for vacations & not to stumble across another persons remains.
I want to say there is some kind of specific way to dispose of those "finds." Like, technically, anything that has come in contact with blood is supposed to be disposed of in a specific manner (so those dealing with the garbage don't come in contact with it), so it probably doesn't go into a garbage can.
nmmom95
08-26-2009, 03:22 PM
Maybe they could put tomstones in the Haunted Mansion Cemetery, but I would bet they would require that they would fit in with the other tombstones that Disney has in there now. People would have to make up something to go with their name or how they died:
Here lies Jake
He was burned at the stake
They sprinkled his ashes on this ride
It was his last request before he died
:rotfl: You could be the first tombstone imagineer!
baketank
08-26-2009, 03:26 PM
OK, one more...
Here lies my ol' friend Dave
The Haunted Mansion was his fave
We put his ashes in a bottle of soda
And left them with Madame Leota
swald91
08-26-2009, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure about human remains, but my dog has pieces of bone-& chunk-like stuff. I just don't like the idea of guests coming into contact with that-I think there should be places to put them, lake, urn whatever-but on the beach or ground where people walk or sit-YUCK! (I'm sure this discussion isn't much off of the vomit issue either-although you can't help where that happens sometimes!)
Mlissa88
08-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Here lies my mother Mary
She was a big fan of the Disney fairies
We took her ashes in a can
And deposited them with Tink on Peter Pan
Here lies my beloved brother Bob
He killed himself when he lost his job
He left his ashes with his next of kin
So we sprinkled him on Space Mountain
LOL....the "kin" and "mountain" was a stretch but still gave me a chuckle...
As for being grossed out by the possibility of walking across someone ashes, nah....I'm more grossed out by the overly used and not as often laundered bedspreads/blankets in the hotel rooms. But...to each his own.
StrawberryMin
08-26-2009, 03:33 PM
That was EXCELLANT! I have been telling my kids for years to scatter my ashes in the moat around the castle, but I had NO idea so many other people had the same idea!
vickalamode
08-26-2009, 03:35 PM
I want to say there is some kind of specific way to dispose of those "finds." Like, technically, anything that has come in contact with blood is supposed to be disposed of in a specific manner (so those dealing with the garbage don't come in contact with it), so it probably doesn't go into a garbage can.
Cremains are sterile. The cremation process is done at extremely high temperatures (1500+ degrees)...so any cremains that are found are probably safer to touch than most of the trash that someone would find! Any blood and disease has been burned off by the time the process is complete (and actually, most diseases die WITH the body anyways, even HIV...because there's no host left)
And to the person who said Disney should have a cemetery or something...I COMPLETELY agree! Maybe not a cemetery specifically (because of zoning and space issues) but they should make a pond or something somewhere that is designated for people to scatter cremains. A lot of people do it anyways-why not have a specific place for it so people don't get upset?
Broncobilly83
08-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
Forget the cemetery. They could do a Columbarium. The church I work for just finished one in our Memorial Garden, and a small one can hold the ashes of 64 people. They could set a couple of much larger ones up outside the Haunted Mansion, in the spooky garden area, or even outside the exit, and sell the slots for booku bucks. They could even give that money to charity to make it a win-win for everyone:
Family Member/Guest - Honors the wishes of the Deceased
WDW - Brings people to the parks, lets final wishes be honored safely and humane (compared to dumping ashes on rides), looks good PR wise to consumers, plus it adds authentic heebe jeebes to the attraction :rotfl2:
Charities - If Disney gave proceeds to charity, they stand to profit quite a bit since this is a recurring thing
nicknamy1996
08-26-2009, 03:36 PM
No worries here either. I agree be respectful to others. Dumping them on the floor is just odd! But a sprinkle in the flowers or in the grass or water is no problem with me.
There is no blood, even flesh... or even really ashes for that matter. It's crushed bone fragments that have had every little bit cooked out of them, and the have been pulverized to look like ashes. Not that is still didn't used to be a love one and all, but it's just not that 'yucky' to me.
There's more DNA on the beach from skin falling off of peoples feet than there would be if you dumped a whole urn there. And on a sweaty park bench or hand rail, etc...
toledo13
08-26-2009, 03:39 PM
Ew creepy!!!
Poohbug
08-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Hey-who wouldn't want to "buried" at a Disney park???
But scattered on the floor-come on, you know that floor gets swept, vacuumed or mopped.
I would prefer to be scattered among the beautiful flowers and trees. Canada would be nice but I really would not be picky.
pocahontasgal87
08-26-2009, 03:59 PM
wow some ppl these days...aha
Disney1976
08-26-2009, 04:10 PM
Haven't read through the entire thread already, so maybe this has been said, but the dumping/improper disposal of humain remains (including ashes) is a criminal act in Florida. Might even be a felony. I can go back and "dig up" the statute if anyone wants me to.
That's why I'm going to make sure to leave bail money for my loved ones along with my strict instructions to scatter me at Splash Mountain. Zip-a-dee-do-dah.... :rolleyes1
lacrosse_lady72
08-26-2009, 04:34 PM
I'm not going to lie, my mom told me to spread her ashes somewhere in WDW... she said she'd prefer to be in the Haunted Mansion, Pirates or the World Showcase Lagoon. I told her that HM would probably be swept up and in POTC she'll just get filtered out and go to the sewer... :upsidedow
Resseda
08-26-2009, 04:42 PM
I've given some casual thought to this in the past, and I have a short list of where I'd like my neice and step son to scatter my ashes, and 7 Seas Lagoon is one of them (of course, so is somewhere around Martinsville Raceway...). Disney could make a fortune if they did something along the lines of a columbarium, but since they wouldn't let me mom do a Leave A Memory tile in honor of my Dad, I feel it safe to say they will never invite mortal remains or their remnants to knowlingly end up on Disney property.
connorsmom911
08-26-2009, 04:49 PM
Haven't read through the entire thread already, so maybe this has been said, but the dumping/improper disposal of humain remains (including ashes) is a criminal act in Florida. Might even be a felony. I can go back and "dig up" the statute if anyone wants me to.
That's why I'm going to make sure to leave bail money for my loved ones along with my strict instructions to scatter me at Splash Mountain. Zip-a-dee-do-dah.... :rolleyes1
:lmao:Love it!! I'm subscribing to that theory and going to amend my will right now!!
Crisgw
08-26-2009, 04:57 PM
I don't think sprinkling some around WDW (not where people walk/eat) is a big deal at all. I'm hoping to be in the moat around the castle too ;)
Tracie
08-26-2009, 05:27 PM
According to my DS when he was 5 yrs old Epcot has a cemetery! When he saw the leave a legacy stones he ask "mom who are all these dead people"
Tracie
rileysmommy
08-26-2009, 05:38 PM
I was just at WDW last week and while on the HM ride I actually thought about this very topic. Now that is just creepy.
Planogirl
08-26-2009, 05:39 PM
I would love to have my remains scattered in the Ozarks and I don't see this as any different. I'm surprised that Disney hasn't found some way to take advantage of this.
eastcarolinafan
08-26-2009, 05:42 PM
Apparently I am in a great minority here when I say :eek: gross.
That is one of the more disgusting things I can imagine at an amusement park where kids will be playing. You toss your relatives ashes into the water, onto the land and into the air where they will travel into my kid's lungs and throughout her body? And this is cool to you all? Human remains in an amusement park?
That is waaaay out of line, man. That is whacked.
Sammie
08-26-2009, 05:43 PM
it is against the law to do this, not that will probably stop anyone and Disney has no desire to become a cemetary or offer one.
If ashes are found and are in a container that has any type of identification they are returned and yes this has happened.
gingerfeathers
08-26-2009, 05:44 PM
This is certainly an interesting topic.. first, I find people who just dump ashes into the Haunted Mansion or any other attraction to be foolish because, yes, they will be swept up/cleaned up/disposed of. Do they think that no one walks through these attractions?
Personally, I can see why Disney wouldn't allow any mortal remains or cremains on their property. I think it would skeeze a lot of people out (and yes, me included, I think if Disney had a cemetery or lake appointed for cremains, I'd find it incredibly weird).
On the other side though, I can certainly understand why some people would want their cremains to be scattered at WDW. And I don't think it's a big deal if someone does a little "sprinkle" here and there--like, a thimble-full, not a whole bag 'o ashes.
I bet there are TONS of people who have in fact done this over the years. If so many people on this thread are talking about it, I can only imagine how many have actually DONE it.
swald91
08-26-2009, 05:44 PM
Apparently I am in a great minority here when I say :eek: gross.
That is one of the more disgusting things I can imagine at an amusement park where kids will be playing. You toss your relatives ashes into the water, onto the land and into the air where they will travel into my kid's lungs and throughout her body? And this is cool to you all? Human remains in an amusement park?
That is waaaay out of line, man. That is whacked.
:thumbsup2 What I've thinking too!! (But some of these comments are creative)
tygerlilly27
08-26-2009, 05:44 PM
this tread gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "pixie dust" :rotfl:
gingerfeathers
08-26-2009, 05:51 PM
this tread gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "pixie dust" :rotfl:
:scared:
liznboys
08-26-2009, 05:52 PM
No worries here either. I agree be respectful to others. Dumping them on the floor is just odd! But a sprinkle in the flowers or in the grass or water is no problem with me.
There is no blood, even flesh... or even really ashes for that matter. It's crushed bone fragments that have had every little bit cooked out of them, and the have been pulverized to look like ashes. Not that is still didn't used to be a love one and all, but it's just not that 'yucky' to me.
There's more DNA on the beach from skin falling off of peoples feet than there would be if you dumped a whole urn there. And on a sweaty park bench or hand rail, etc...
ITA. There are plenty of GROSS things in WDW, this is not one of them to me by any stretch.
mickeyluv'r
08-26-2009, 06:17 PM
I think Disney advertising the ability to leave remains on property would kind of undermine their whole theme. Maybe if there was a cemetary ina quiet corner od DIsney property. THAT might actually be an interesting way to get folks to come visit each year. You could go see grandma's grave and hit the parks too.
I think maybe willing your DVC to relatives is a far less toublesome alternative.
It doesn't really bother me though, so long as ther emains are cremated. Not sure why you'd pick the Haunted Mansion though. The lakes and gardens make much more sense to me.
I seem to recall at one point a thread with a photo of a lady trying to disperse ashes near the castle. At least that's what the poster claimed.
Poohbear123
08-26-2009, 06:24 PM
I have already instructed my DH and DD to deposit my ashes at WDW. I want some to go in the lake at the Wilderness Lodge, some to go in the fountain at Epcot, some to be sprinkled in the moat around the castle, and some to be sprinkled on the grounds of the Beach Club. That should about cover it.
:thumbsup2Me too, POTC/Jungle Cruise/EE at AK/And the lake at POP!:thumbsup2 All of my Favs....:cloud9:
DonaldRocks
08-26-2009, 06:36 PM
i'm gonna have mine spread in Belle's dressing room.
Scot-n-Michelle
08-26-2009, 07:06 PM
All I keep picture is riding on HM and the car in front of me spreading and the ashes are blowing back into my face - eww -- now if you want to leave a little fine by me - not the whole urn!!
luvthemouse71
08-26-2009, 07:58 PM
The Seven Seas Lagoon is awefully large and I am sure that there would be tons of spots that are not supervised at all times. ;)
That would make more sense to me-I wouldn't want to risk being swept up.;) This doesn't bother me by the way..people scatter ashes all the time in parks, in the ocean etc. I think in this day and age, people freak out more about death, funerals and such. Back in the day, people held wakes from their home-your loved one would be laid out in the living room.
Count me in as someone else who thinks Disney should find a way to make this work.
kmk1180
08-26-2009, 08:50 PM
1. It's more weird that creepy. But ya gross.
Disney should stop people form doing this anywhere on property.
2. But I rate it slightly below the feak mother who stopped, dropped and gave birth walking through Cinderella's Castle. And refused to leave till she was done.
connie1042
08-26-2009, 08:50 PM
We just had this conversation a couple of weeks ago. some at WDW, some at Cocoa Beach. Not a lot , but at least some. the rest of me can get buried on our family plot.
And to the person who said Disney should have a cemetery or something...I COMPLETELY agree! Maybe not a cemetery specifically (because of zoning and space issues) but they should make a pond or something somewhere that is designated for people to scatter cremains. A lot of people do it anyways-why not have a specific place for it so people don't get upset?
Hmmmm, this conjures up all sorts of weird visuals in my mind.....
Would they build a themed queing area, and if so, what??? And would they post waiting times out the front?? :rolleyes1
kissthemouse
08-26-2009, 09:12 PM
2. But I rate it slightly below the feak mother who stopped, dropped and gave birth walking through Cinderella's Castle. And refused to leave till she was done.
:scared1: OMG someone did NOT do that! NO WAY! :eek:
shannon1219
08-26-2009, 09:30 PM
OMG talk about funny me and my daughter had this conversation in hte car today. We just recently had a death in the family and I was telling her that I wanted to be cremated she then turns to me before I have a chance to say anything else and say that if I say I want my ashes spread at Disney I had better leave her plenty of money as well. Some to pay for a nice long vacation for her and the rest to pay her bail when she is arrested for spinkling me on the flowers.:rotfl2:
PrincessSuzanne
08-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Yes, and tombstones. I'd want Figment on mine. I could see people ordering Jack, HM ones, and other sorts of characters or themes. Even Mr. Toad like the one in the pet cemetery they have at the exit. Have I put too much thought into this?
While it is not at Disney, my mom passed away a year ago today and I had Mickey heads engraved on her headstone. She would have loved it, because WDW was her favorite place and Mickey was her favorite.
I think Disney would definitely have a market.
Suzanne
lugnut33
08-26-2009, 10:11 PM
I'm not going to be cremated so they can just drop my stiff body into Splash Mountain and use me as another log.
Oh, and for those people who were mean while alive, they will get placed in Stitch's Great Escape or Sounds Dangerous.
Honestly people, you're dead, it makes no difference where you are placed.
CP2003Alumni
08-26-2009, 10:18 PM
Personally I find no problem with Disney if they made a designated area. I joke with my fiance all the tiem that when I am dead and gone he can sprinkle me at the happiest place on Earth --- he prefers a baseball field.
That being said, it is not becoming an uncommon practice for companies to build crypts for fanatics. See the following articles:
ok, it won't let me post these links, but just put an h t t p : / / w w w dot infront of it, and you get the idea.
spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,506164,00.html
eternalimage.net/mlb.php
So it really isn't that unheard of.
:cool2:
ShannonMB
08-26-2009, 10:20 PM
Oh, and for those people who were mean while alive, they will get placed in Stitch's Great Escape or Sounds Dangerous.
:laughing:
Buzzster
08-26-2009, 10:21 PM
...and a ghost may follow you home, or the charred remains of Uncle Ned. Yikes
melancholywings
08-26-2009, 10:48 PM
I think it's selfish and disrespectful to the living. There was an article I had read some time back where someone dumped the ashes on one of the fast moving rides and it ended up in the face of a little girl and another guest.
MineMail
08-26-2009, 10:52 PM
I really wish that this board had a "reputation" feature. I'd sign up to give you double rep for these. Excellent ghost writing baketank!
Maybe they could put tomstones in the Haunted Mansion Cemetery, but I would bet they would require that they would fit in with the other tombstones that Disney has in there now. People would have to make up something to go with their name or how they died:
Here lies Jake
He was burned at the stake
They sprinkled his ashes on this ride
It was his last request before he died
Here lies my mother Mary
She was a big fan of the Disney fairies
We took her ashes in a can
And deposited them with Tink on Peter Pan
Here lies my beloved brother Bob
He killed himself when he lost his job
He left his ashes with his next of kin
So we sprinkled him on Space Mountain
OK, one more...
Here lies my ol' friend Dave
The Haunted Mansion was his fave
We put his ashes in a bottle of soda
And left them with Madame Leota
...and a ghost may follow you home, or the charred remains of Uncle Ned. YikesIn your hair, on your clothes, on the stroller, lol.
A trail along the doombuggy tracks? I guess they were hoping granny'd find her way or something. IIRC, someone posted an incident at the HM in the last few months. I'll try to find it.
ETA/Found it: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2234793
I wonder if something similar happened? The OP's friend was stuck in her doombuggy for an hour and the CM's were "running past the seats."
I'm not against cremation or scattering remains, but on private property, that's just wrong. I know that asking Disney is a waste of time, but it's still wrong to dump Uncle Ned without permission. Causing the ride to be stopped is selfish and inconsiderate.
Buzz Litebeer
08-26-2009, 11:01 PM
I've been thinking..wow..are you kidding me?
Nope. Not kidding at all. When my best friend trained at the HM she had to "run an intrusion" (meaning someone -- or something -- tripped an alarm inside the ride). The culprit was, you guessed it -- human ashes.
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
I could be wrong, but I don't believe the company has any interest in building a cemetery on-property.
From what I have heard (rumor only) Disney does not clean up ashes and put them into a landfill. I heard that there is a special protocall for handling this type of cleanup.
Human remains are treated like biohazardous material (like spilled blood). Disney has biohazard refuse bins that contaminated materials are deposited in.
Cremains are sterile. The cremation process is done at extremely high temperatures (1500+ degrees)...so any cremains that are found are probably safer to touch than most of the trash that someone would find! Any blood and disease has been burned off by the time the process is complete (and actually, most diseases die WITH the body anyways, even HIV...because there's no host left)
And to the person who said Disney should have a cemetery or something...I COMPLETELY agree! Maybe not a cemetery specifically (because of zoning and space issues) but they should make a pond or something somewhere that is designated for people to scatter cremains. A lot of people do it anyways-why not have a specific place for it so people don't get upset?
I agree that the "cremains" are sterile, and treating them as biohardous material may seem like overkill... but I think that may be done because the alternative (tossing them in a dumpster) is seen as less respectful.
Personally, I think disposing of someone's remains in a theme park is inappropriate.
Human remains in an amusement park?
See, this is my point exactly. I understand that millions of folks around the globe have a strong emotional attachment to WDW -- but there are plenty of other places around the worls that are much more appropriate. Me, I plan on having my ashes sprinkled in Glasnevin Cemetery (http://www.jochenhertweck.com/pics/ireland2006/dublin/glasnevin/212_1256.jpg) in Dublin, Ireland.
OMG someone did NOT do that! NO WAY!
Someone did. Way.
rie'smom
08-26-2009, 11:10 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
We were with my little nephew on his first trip and we brought him to Epcot. He said, " The ball is cool but why'd they put a cemetery at the entrance.' meaning
the Leave a Legacy granite monuments!
Nope. Not kidding at all. When my best friend trained at the HM she had to "run an intrusion" (meaning someone -- or something -- tripped an alarm inside the ride). The culprit was, you guessed it -- human ashes.
See, this is my point exactly. I understand that millions of folks around the globe have a strong emotional attachment to WDW -- but there are plenty of other places around the worls that are much more appropriate. Me, I plan on having my ashes sprinkled in Glasnevin Cemetery (http://www.jochenhertweck.com/pics/ireland2006/dublin/glasnevin/212_1256.jpg) in Dublin, Ireland.
Have you ever been to Metairie Cemetery in New Orleans? There are some of the most gorgeous mausoleums I have ever seen.
rie'smom
08-26-2009, 11:16 PM
Sorry, it's late and I thought that I had linked the 2 posts.
WeLoveLilo05
08-26-2009, 11:16 PM
Ok I came across this today looking for something else and I wanted to share it here. I've been thinking..wow..are you kidding me? I mean, I'm starting to not be shocked by much of what people try in the parks anymore. But this kinda creeps me out.
Discuss please...
http://******************/x-10719-Disney-Theme-Parks-Examiner~y2009m5d17-Human-ashes-scattered-at-Walt-Disney-World-Haunted-Mansion-again
we were there May 15, but did not ride HM (DD too scared). OMG, if I ever told my mom this she would NEVER ride it again, and this is one of her favs.
CLR4321
08-26-2009, 11:40 PM
From what I have heard (rumor only) Disney does not clean up ashes and put them into a landfill. I heard that there is a special protocall for handling this type of cleanup.
It is true. They have to bring a hazmat team in when someone dumps ashes inside of an attraction, most commonly of course inside HM. There was a case a few years ago at Disneyland of someone seen dumping ashes into the water inside POTC. The ride was shut down and the police were contacted, but they determined that any ashes were dissipated in the water and did not pose any threat to guests, so they opened the ride back up. I think people who do this are selfish, especially in cases where a ride has to be shut down. Also they are not very bright, because Disney puts cameras everywhere, and has CM's check the side of the ride. If they see any powdery substance that does not belong, they call in the hazmat crew, who vacuums it up inside of a special hazmat vacuum. The ashes are disposed of inside of a landfill. I watched a TV show about this once, it showed the guys in yellow hazmat suits going in with a vacuum. It asked "And where do the ashes end up?" and the scene changed to a landfill. They went on talking to some CM's who talked about how sad it was that people would do this, and ultimately have their mother's remains dumped into a landfill.
ninecrayons
08-27-2009, 12:12 AM
I didn't realize this happened at all, much less so often.
Cory Doctrow actually wrote an article about this for boingboing back in 2007.
http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/cremation-ashes-at-d.html (http://boingboing.net/2007/11/13/cremation-ashes-at-d.html)
I don't have a problem with the disposal of the ashes, but do think there ought to be a place designated for them. Personally, it would bother me less knowing that someone had dumped ashes into the Seven Seas Lagoon than it would having someone on the ride in front of me dump ashes.
honugirl
08-27-2009, 01:43 AM
I probably would be irritated if they flew in my face on a fast ride, but any other situation wouldn't bother me. But then again, I used to work at a cemetery, so I'm used to that kind of thing. I actually would love to buy a little place for my cremains to go after I die at WDW. It's my favorite place, it's the only place that makes me happy. Why wouldn't I want to spend eternity there?
Justsyd2
08-27-2009, 01:59 AM
this tread gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "pixie dust" :rotfl:
Doesn't it, though? :rotfl2:
This is really nothing new...it's been going on for years!
Zeebs
08-27-2009, 06:34 AM
.
It doesn't really bother me though, so long as ther emains are cremated.
This line made me really laugh, now I have visions of someone just throwing the uncremated person in the moat.
Kirsten
JPN4265
08-27-2009, 09:16 AM
I want to say there is some kind of specific way to dispose of those "finds." Like, technically, anything that has come in contact with blood is supposed to be disposed of in a specific manner (so those dealing with the garbage don't come in contact with it), so it probably doesn't go into a garbage can.
My guess is the fire took care of this problem,:wizard:
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 09:53 AM
:thumbsup2Me too, POTC/Jungle Cruise/EE at AK/And the lake at POP!:thumbsup2 All of my Favs....:cloud9:
Excellent!!!
You know, what I was thinking is that after I die, I want to be cremated and have my ashes put in your back yard. Maybe just a few scattered into the flower beds outside your front door so your kids, family pets and friends can share my essence. In addition, because of course it's not weird at all, I want just a pinch of my cremated human remains to be scattered within the walls of your home!
Good times!:thumbsup2
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 09:58 AM
This line made me really laugh, now I have visions of someone just throwing the uncremated person in the moat.
Kirsten
Kristen, you know somewhere out there is some nutty dude who will ultimately do that. "What?" he will ask, "You mean it isn't cool that my surgically removed spleen was actually placed inside a container inside Animal Kingdom's Boneyard?? I did not know that."
rie'smom
08-27-2009, 10:03 AM
Anyone else having "Weekend at Bernie's" flashbacks.
Hallowishes
08-27-2009, 10:03 AM
this story has been going on for such a long time. ive heard about cremains being dumped in "its a small world" as well .... i sure wouldnt wanna be dumped in there forever ... that song would drive me nuts! :lmao:
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 10:09 AM
this story has been going on for such a long time. ive heard about cremains being dumped in "its a small world" as well .... i sure wouldnt wanna be dumped in there forever ... that song would drive me nuts! :lmao:
Hey, that was funny!:lmao:
Zeebs
08-27-2009, 10:16 AM
Kristen, you know somewhere out there is some nutty dude who will ultimately do that. "What?" he will ask, "You mean it isn't cool that my surgically removed spleen was actually placed inside a container inside Animal Kingdom's Boneyard?? I did not know that."
At least they are nice enough to put it in a jar.
Kirsten
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 10:20 AM
I told my kids they could have a deluxe week in WDW if they would sprinkle me around the place in several different spots. I told them to be cool about it, don't get caught. Divide me up into small ziplocks, each one gets to join in the fun.
Knowing my kids like I do, they'll probably take the whole box and dump it in a McDonalds trash can on I-4 and say, close enough. :lol:
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 10:25 AM
I'm not going to lie, my mom told me to spread her ashes somewhere in WDW... she said she'd prefer to be in the Haunted Mansion, Pirates or the World Showcase Lagoon. I told her that HM would probably be swept up and in POTC she'll just get filtered out and go to the sewer... :upsidedow
The wishing well.
I can't imagine why people are grossed out. It is just dust.
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 10:42 AM
The wishing well.
I can't imagine why people are grossed out. It is just dust.
Well, I'll tell you why I am grossed out. I can't and won't speak for others. I am grossed out because frankly I don't want any possible disease you or somebody else might have had coursing through my body. In addition, just the thought of your human remains -- in any form getting on me in any way is, well, repulsive.
There are reasons for burials, outside the ceremony of it all. There are reasons people who are cremated are placed in urns and not simply dumped in a pile at Yankee Stadium or Disney World or all over the Empire State Building.
I mean, think about it. What do we know of SARS, AIDS, hepatitis, or any number of diseases out there? What do you know of herpes or any STD, for that matter? You mean to tell me only those who are 100% disease-free are allowed to do this? What if, God forbid, I die of full-blown AIDS, am cremated and my ashes are scattered on your front lawn because you don't see anything wrong with that. Is this still OK with you?
This is not something that's cool. This is something that is cool in theory. I get it. I understand the thought behind it all. Sure, I would love to spend eternity in the Tower of Terror -- who wouldn't?
But for the health of others -- for the safety or your child and others out there, I and whatever possible diseases I have, should be disposed of properly and kept where they can not infect or harm others in any way.
And the possiblity of THAT is what grosses me out.
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 10:50 AM
I probably would be irritated if they flew in my face on a fast ride, but any other situation wouldn't bother me. But then again, I used to work at a cemetery, so I'm used to that kind of thing. I actually would love to buy a little place for my cremains to go after I die at WDW. It's my favorite place, it's the only place that makes me happy. Why wouldn't I want to spend eternity there?
"... it's the only place that makes me happy."
That quote makes me sad.
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 10:54 AM
Pretty sure being incinerated takes care of any communicable diseases. Absolutely no health concerns to worry about, unless someone does decide to take the short cut and not cremate, but just dump grandpa Joe as is out of the doom buggy.
There is a bit of an ick factor, but the fact is, the earth itself is made up of former living organisms. Oil for instance. You're heating your home and fueling your vehicle with dinosaur remains. You walk on dead people and animals every day. So if you think about sprinkling ashes around, not really so icky.
kaffinito
08-27-2009, 11:10 AM
Well, I'll tell you why I am grossed out. I can't and won't speak for others. I am grossed out because frankly I don't want any possible disease you or somebody else might have had coursing through my body. In addition, just the thought of your human remains -- in any form getting on me in any way is, well, repulsive.
There are reasons for burials, outside the ceremony of it all. There are reasons people who are cremated are placed in urns and not simply dumped in a pile at Yankee Stadium or Disney World or all over the Empire State Building.
I mean, think about it. What do we know of SARS, AIDS, hepatitis, or any number of diseases out there? What do you know of herpes or any STD, for that matter? You mean to tell me only those who are 100% disease-free are allowed to do this? What if, God forbid, I die of full-blown AIDS, am cremated and my ashes are scattered on your front lawn because you don't see anything wrong with that. Is this still OK with you?
This is not something that's cool. This is something that is cool in theory. I get it. I understand the thought behind it all. Sure, I would love to spend eternity in the Tower of Terror -- who wouldn't?
But for the health of others -- for the safety or your child and others out there, I and whatever possible diseases I have, should be disposed of properly and kept where they can not infect or harm others in any way.
And the possiblity of THAT is what grosses me out.
And if you are cremated then you are burned - which means that those icky diseases are burned as well. No more body, no more diseases. The ashes are placed in urns as a nicety for the family of the deceased. In other countries the ashes are allowed to blow away in the winds.
Humans burned their dead as often as they buried them. I'd be far more worried about ground water seepage from a nearby cemetery than about some ashes. The ashes are nothing more than ash. :)
Getting back OT, I really love the idea of WDW selling small memorial markers for the deceased. I would love to have one near HM or near where Mr. Toad used to be. :goodvibes
Personally when I kick off, I have heard of "natural burial" cemeteries out west where they just dig a hole and stick the body in the dirt. Seems more natural to me that way (embalming is gross) and since I won't be using my body anymore anyway, why would I care about a marked grave, coffin or a headstone? :littleangel:
Sleeping Becca
08-27-2009, 11:21 AM
The cremation process with kill any bacteria, virus, or other communicable disease including the human form of mad cow which is caused by a protein.
So there is no danger to people from scattered ashes. I don't find ashes gross at all.
As a previous poster mentioned ground water seepage from a cemetary is much more dangerous. Here in South Louisiana I guarantee that most most graves are in the water table and even though they are contained in concrete vaults water still gets in and flows out. That is way grosser than cremated remains.
So sprinkle away! It doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think it is really helpful for family members to know that a part of their loved one is someplace they loved.
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 11:28 AM
The cremation process with kill any bacteria, virus, or other communicable disease including the human form of mad cow which is caused by a protein.
So there is no danger to people from scattered ashes. I don't find ashes gross at all.
As a previous poster mentioned ground water seepage from a cemetary is much more dangerous. Here in South Louisiana I guarantee that most most graves are in the water table and even though they are contained in concrete vaults water still gets in and flows out. That is way grosser than cremated remains.
So sprinkle away! It doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think it is really helpful for family members to know that a part of their loved one is someplace they loved.
Cool. I'll be in your living room, watching TV. And I had no idea so many people had medical degrees and done so much research about such a topic. AIDS? No problem. Hepatitis? Bring it. SARS, I laugh at it.
Good to know.
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 11:38 AM
Cool. I'll be in your living room, watching TV. And I had no idea so many people had medical degrees and done so much research about such a topic. AIDS? No problem. Hepatitis? Bring it. SARS, I laugh at it.
Good to know.
No medical degree needed, just common sense. :) Do you know how hot 1500 degrees is? It's really, really hot.
SARS, AIDS and HEP would be burned up, right along with Grandpa Joe.
You have a much better chance of catching a disease at the grocery store.
Well, not aids or hep, but plenty of others.
selina4disney
08-27-2009, 11:45 AM
Every time we go on Everest and get to the top where you can see all over the park I tell whoever is riding with me, "This is where you throw me off!" It has become a family joke ;) When my son and his family were there last week (without e *sniffle*), my son said to them, "This is where we throw mom off!" I just tell 'em make sure they sit in the BACK CAR! hahaha!
If Disney allowed that the place would be 10' deep in ashes! ;)
Tribilín
08-27-2009, 11:48 AM
But still is dust, shouldn´t be just tossed around just like that in a public place.
Why not choose a cute TNBC jar and ask to be part of the HM decoration? There are tons of great designs on the internet, not sure if it would be OK post a link of the one I like.
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 11:51 AM
popcorn::
gingerfeathers
08-27-2009, 11:53 AM
I highly suggest looking up cremation for those who are unfamiliar with it. Wikipedia, despite not being entirely reliable, would nevertheless be a good source because it will at the very least supply basic information. But I assure everyone, like the previous posters have said, there is no disease. Nothing is left but about 3.5% of your original body mass.. in other words, pieces of your skeleton. Another good source: Stiff, The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach. Great book, highly recommend. And no, I'm not a total freak. ;)
Personally, the thought of a woman giving birth in the castle is waaay more gross than some cremains (though I also admit I'd be completely weirded out/grossed out if someone dumped them and they got all over me and in my mouth). Give me ashes versus fluids ANYDAY. :eek:
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 11:55 AM
Every time we go on Everest and get to the top where you can see all over the park I tell whoever is riding with me, "This is where you throw me off!" It has become a family joke ;) When my son and his family were there last week (without e *sniffle*), my son said to them, "This is where we throw mom off!" I just tell 'em make sure they sit in the BACK CAR! hahaha!
If Disney allowed that the place would be 10' deep in ashes! ;)
But every inch of that 10 feet would be totally sterile, so no concerns there. Heck, they can make it part of a ride, you know? Put it somewhere in the Living with the Land exhibit. That seems granola enough. Look how tall these sunflowers grow with just a sprinkle of dad's burned up kidneys!:idea:
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 11:57 AM
But still is dust, shouldn´t be just tossed around just like that in a public place.
Why not choose a cute TNBC jar and ask to be part of the HM decoration? There are tons of great designs on the internet, not sure if it would be OK post a link of the one I like.
You mean like this one?
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/the-nightmare-before-christmas-cookie-jar
Perfect!
:rotfl::thumbsup2
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 12:07 PM
You mean like this one?
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/the-nightmare-before-christmas-cookie-jar
Perfect!
:rotfl::thumbsup2
Jars would be awesome. Urns, fine. But apparently that's not good enough for some.
Sleeping Becca
08-27-2009, 12:16 PM
Cool. I'll be in your living room, watching TV. And I had no idea so many people had medical degrees and done so much research about such a topic. AIDS? No problem. Hepatitis? Bring it. SARS, I laugh at it.
Good to know.
Why would you be in my living room watching TV?
Sorry, don't get it.
As far as professions go, they run the gamut here on the DIS, same goes for intelligence levels and age ranges. No matter what the topic there is prob someone here who knows something about it.
You can always research the answer yourself if you don't believe what a poster has said. If a poster is wrong, it is helpful to correct the poster so that others can know the correct information. Of course it is best to correct in the politest manner possible, respectfull disagreements should always be welcome.
I am not a medical professional but have done research on this topic for personal reasons. I have seen the furnaces and have had the process described in detail from 2 reputable crematories.
Zeebs
08-27-2009, 12:18 PM
Well, I'll tell you why I am grossed out. I can't and won't speak for others. I am grossed out because frankly I don't want any possible disease you or somebody else might have had coursing through my body. In addition, just the thought of your human remains -- in any form getting on me in any way is, well, repulsive.
There are reasons for burials, outside the ceremony of it all. There are reasons people who are cremated are placed in urns and not simply dumped in a pile at Yankee Stadium or Disney World or all over the Empire State Building.
I mean, think about it. What do we know of SARS, AIDS, hepatitis, or any number of diseases out there? What do you know of herpes or any STD, for that matter? You mean to tell me only those who are 100% disease-free are allowed to do this? What if, God forbid, I die of full-blown AIDS, am cremated and my ashes are scattered on your front lawn because you don't see anything wrong with that. Is this still OK with you?
This is not something that's cool. This is something that is cool in theory. I get it. I understand the thought behind it all. Sure, I would love to spend eternity in the Tower of Terror -- who wouldn't?
But for the health of others -- for the safety or your child and others out there, I and whatever possible diseases I have, should be disposed of properly and kept where they can not infect or harm others in any way.
And the possiblity of THAT is what grosses me out.
If the diseases were still contagious after cremation, I suspect that in the land of a million lawsuits it would be illegal to spread ashes ANYWHERE.
(disclaimer love your country but you have to admit plenty of lawsuits)
In fact fire is used in many countries in times of disaster, death etc to ensure diseases aren't spread.
Kirsten
Tribilín
08-27-2009, 12:44 PM
You mean like this one?
Perfect!
:rotfl::thumbsup2
Oooohh that would be so perfect! But of course when the time comes :littleangel:
locolala
08-27-2009, 12:48 PM
FWIW.. the heat required to fully cremate a body is around 1500f. The heat used in autoclaves, which sterilize MEDICAL equipment for use in surgery is about 150c, or about 300f. You'd think it'd be enough to sterilize the remains. Seriously.. I know that when I die, I want my remains scattered near horses and in the river I grew up playing in. I even called the local health agency and they said it'd be perfectly fine to do so, there are absolutely no codes against it. One would imagine that if there aren't any codes against it, it's safe.
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 12:54 PM
Why would you be in my living room watching TV?
Sorry, don't get it.
As far as professions go, they run the gamut here on the DIS, same goes for intelligence levels and age ranges. No matter what the topic there is prob someone here who knows something about it.
You can always research the answer yourself if you don't believe what a poster has said. If a poster is wrong, it is helpful to correct the poster so that others can know the correct information. Of course it is best to correct in the politest manner possible, respectfull disagreements should always be welcome.
I am not a medical professional but have done research on this topic for personal reasons. I have seen the furnaces and have had the process described in detail from 2 reputable crematories.
So then I guess the question is pretty obvious: Why can't we just spread cremated human remains anywhere we want? Schools. Hospitals. Candy stores. Wal Mart. What's the problem?
Look, it's a simple matter. It's unacceptable to Disney World and pretty much any other business of any size in the United States to scatter your human remains -- ashes or otherwise -- anywhere. Toss them to the wind and let them blow in your face for all I care. (though I am pretty sure you wouldn't do that). Just keep you human remains away from me.
Argue all you want. But please, keep your charred human remains to yourself. That's all. It's not too much to ask, is it?
Is it really?:confused3
Wall-E1
08-27-2009, 01:05 PM
I told my kids they could have a deluxe week in WDW if they would sprinkle me around the place in several different spots. I told them to be cool about it, don't get caught. Divide me up into small ziplocks, each one gets to join in the fun.
Knowing my kids like I do, they'll probably take the whole box and dump it in a McDonalds trash can on I-4 and say, close enough. :lol:
I've given my son the same instructions for my remains. I've told him the various spots that I would like to be left at around WDW. I too have concerns about where I will end up, as he is a bit on the clumsy side and likes to rush through things. I'm hoping to al least make it to one of the theme park parking lot garbage cans before he enjoys his vacation.
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 01:06 PM
So then I guess the question is pretty obvious: Why can't we just spread cremated human remains anywhere we want? Schools. Hospitals. Candy stores. Wal Mart. What's the problem?
Look, it's a simple matter. It's unacceptable to Disney World and pretty much any other business of any size in the United States to scatter your human remains -- ashes or otherwise -- anywhere. Toss them to the wind and let them blow in your face for all I care. (though I am pretty sure you wouldn't do that). Just keep you human remains away from me.
Argue all you want. But please, keep your charred human remains to yourself. That's all. It's not too much to ask, is it?
Is it really?:confused3
1 - because it's disrespectful...NOT because you're going to get a disease.
2 - the only thing anyone was arguing with you about was that you were incorrect in saying that you could get AIDS, SARS, or whatever else from it, not about the morality of it or whether it was right or wrong. They were disputing your stated "fact" not your opinion.
Zeebs
08-27-2009, 01:11 PM
So then I guess the question is pretty obvious: Why can't we just spread cremated human remains anywhere we want? Schools. Hospitals. Candy stores. Wal Mart. What's the problem?
Look, it's a simple matter. It's unacceptable to Disney World and pretty much any other business of any size in the United States to scatter your human remains -- ashes or otherwise -- anywhere. Toss them to the wind and let them blow in your face for all I care. (though I am pretty sure you wouldn't do that). Just keep you human remains away from me.
Argue all you want. But please, keep your charred human remains to yourself. That's all. It's not too much to ask, is it?
Is it really?:confused3
Walmart???? I love it..... I love Walmart but I would draw the line at being spread there. Plus all those places you would just be swept up and put in the bin.
Princess Disney Mom
08-27-2009, 01:15 PM
How could anyone feel they have a right to throw their ashes at WDW or any other public place? Why would they want to anyway? Be stepped on, thown away, rained on etc.
maidenfairy
08-27-2009, 01:24 PM
Well, I'll tell you why I am grossed out. I can't and won't speak for others. I am grossed out because frankly I don't want any possible disease you or somebody else might have had coursing through my body. In addition, just the thought of your human remains -- in any form getting on me in any way is, well, repulsive.
There are reasons for burials, outside the ceremony of it all. There are reasons people who are cremated are placed in urns and not simply dumped in a pile at Yankee Stadium or Disney World or all over the Empire State Building.
I mean, think about it. What do we know of SARS, AIDS, hepatitis, or any number of diseases out there? What do you know of herpes or any STD, for that matter? You mean to tell me only those who are 100% disease-free are allowed to do this? What if, God forbid, I die of full-blown AIDS, am cremated and my ashes are scattered on your front lawn because you don't see anything wrong with that. Is this still OK with you?
If you were to die of AIDS, SARS, Hepatitis or any other tranferable disease and were cremated the heat of the fire would kill the virus COMPLETLY. Also viruses can only live outside a living host for so long. And if you were scattered in my front yard the wind would carry you away. So I guess to answer your question, It would not bother me.
The reason people are not allowed to dump their remains in a pile at Yankee stadium is simple. Living people do not want to look at a growing pile of ashes. Have you seen the quantity of ashes a full grown person leaves behind? It's a lot. More people should do what my father had done with his. The majority of him went into the lake behind his house and my brother and I received a small amount. He is in an urn in my living room until I find a place to put him. Because really, after I pass who am I going to leave him too? The thought of passing down Grandpa Finley from generation to generation grosses me out more than spreading him somewhere.
Wall-E1
08-27-2009, 01:26 PM
How could anyone feel they have a right to throw their ashes at WDW or any other public place? Why would they want to anyway? Be stepped on, thown away, rained on etc.
After over twenty trips there so far, and tens of thousands of dollars spent there, I feel I have a right to be spread there if it is my final wish. I'm not planning on having my ashes scattered on some crowded walkway or thrown in the air mid-ride. I'm fine with being scattered in "off the beaten path" places like bushes, canals, or grassy areas. As to why I would want to, it's just that feeling of happiness there, the sounds of laughter, the music. It seems so much better than being buried in some dreary cemetery where you will be stepped on, rained on, etc.
Mlissa88
08-27-2009, 01:34 PM
Excellent!!!
You know, what I was thinking is that after I die, I want to be cremated and have my ashes put in your back yard. Maybe just a few scattered into the flower beds outside your front door so your kids, family pets and friends can share my essence. In addition, because of course it's not weird at all, I want just a pinch of my cremated human remains to be scattered within the walls of your home!
Good times!:thumbsup2
Well…the neighbor cat stops by and "visits" my flower beds from time to time. Another neighbor pet leaves me presents (mice that it has killed) at the back door on a nightly basis as thanks for the dinner I sometimes give him when he's hungry. I watched a hawk eviscerate and eat a squirrel while he was sitting on my back fence the other evening. Occasionally the dog messes in my back yard get into the double digits when I don't get out there to clean it up fast enough.
If you want to add some ashes to the mix in our yard, I'm sure we won't even notice. I'll just tell people to check their shoes when they come in...just like we do with the dog.
Moreover, if you want to be inside our wall, then you'll have to share that space with the mice that occasionally find their way in from the field, get trapped in the wall and die.
On the bright side, your ashes wouldn't put off a odor like a decaying mouse does...
Let's just agree to disagree folks... this thread is heading to shut down shortly anyway.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 01:49 PM
Well…the neighbor cat stops by and "visits" my flower beds from time to time. Another neighbor pet leaves me presents (mice that it has killed) at the back door on a nightly basis as thanks for the dinner I sometimes give him when he's hungry. I watched a hawk eviscerate and eat a squirrel while he was sitting on my back fence the other evening. Occasionally the dog messes in my back yard get into the double digits when I don't get out there to clean it up fast enough.
If you want to add some ashes to the mix in our yard, I'm sure we won't even notice. I'll just tell people to check their shoes when they come in...just like we do with the dog.
Moreover, if you want to be inside our wall, then you'll have to share that space with the mice that occasionally find their way in from the field, get trapped in the wall and die.
On the bright side, your ashes wouldn't put off a odor like a decaying mouse does...
Let's just agree to disagree folks... this thread is heading to shut down shortly anyway.
I love this. I agree. Ashes are ashes. I'd rather have someone's dust and memories floating around than the trash littered about. If I get swept up, I could not care less. I just enjoy the thought now of a part of me becoming a part of that world. There is already dirt and decomposing stuff all around. A little more won't hurt.
swald91
08-27-2009, 02:05 PM
After over twenty trips there so far, and tens of thousands of dollars spent there, I feel I have a right to be spread there if it is my final wish. I'm not planning on having my ashes scattered on some crowded walkway or thrown in the air mid-ride. I'm fine with being scattered in "off the beaten path" places like bushes, canals, or grassy areas. As to why I would want to, it's just that feeling of happiness there, the sounds of laughter, the music. It seems so much better than being buried in some dreary cemetery where you will be stepped on, rained on, etc.
Disney is private property...why do you think you would have the right to be "disposed" of there? What if your former home owner loved the property so much they felt they paid their taxes while living there & they wanted to dump their ashes in your yard? Would you agree to it? What if they did it without your consent? I just don't see that Disney should allow this behavior-if they had a spot for it, great!
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 02:14 PM
Disney is private property...why do you think you would have the right to be "disposed" of there? What if your former home owner loved the property so much they felt they paid their taxes while living there & they wanted to dump their ashes in your yard? Would you agree to it? What if they did it without your consent? I just don't see that Disney should allow this behavior-if they had a spot for it, great!
I would have absolutely no problem with a former homeowner's family coming and leaving their ashes on my property. It's the circle of life!
swald91
08-27-2009, 02:26 PM
I would have absolutely no problem with a former homeowner's family coming and leaving their ashes on my property. It's the circle of life!
Yes, I wouldn't either IF they asked & were put in a place where my children & friends & dogs didn't play! That's why I say-I, too would love to have my resting place there but just not randomly scattered...a proper place-YES!!! I just don't think people should think they have a right to do this-especially if it's against the law in Florida.
GJF323
08-27-2009, 02:29 PM
Maybe they could use those empty Leave a Legacy stones by SSE and transform them into a columbarium. I think it's the least they can do for those of us that never got a chance to put something there before it closed. It still makes me angry walking by the empty stones and knowing I can't add my message.
Maybe the Disney Burial Club (DBC)?
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 02:30 PM
Yes, I wouldn't either IF they asked & were put in a place where my children & friends & dogs didn't play! That's why I say-I, too would love to have my resting place there but just not randomly scattered...a proper place-YES!!! I just don't think people should think they have a right to do this-especially if it's against the law in Florida.
Oh, I'm not voicing my opinion on whether or not it's "ok" to do this at WDW...I'm gunna keep that to myself ;) Just saying it wouldn't bother me if someone came and dumped ashes in my yard...and honestly...they could do it under my kid's swing and I probably wouldn't even notice...:flower3:
Funny thing is though...I was googling stuff to make sure that you couldn't catch diseases from human ashes, and I found a site where this company will make DIAMONDS out of your loved one's ashes. Now, walking around with my gma on my ring finger might creep me out...lol!
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Yes, I wouldn't either IF they asked & were put in a place where my children & friends & dogs didn't play! That's why I say-I, too would love to have my resting place there but just not randomly scattered...a proper place-YES!!! I just don't think people should think they have a right to do this-especially if it's against the law in Florida.
I think it would be a hoot and an honor to be arrested for scattering a bit of my mom down there.:wizard::littleangel:
Pecobill
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Oh, I'm not voicing my opinion on whether or not it's "ok" to do this at WDW...I'm gunna keep that to myself ;) Just saying it wouldn't bother me if someone came and dumped ashes in my yard...and honestly...they could do it under my kid's swing and I probably wouldn't even notice...:flower3:
Funny thing is though...I was googling stuff to make sure that you couldn't catch diseases from human ashes, and I found a site where this company will make DIAMONDS out of your loved one's ashes. Now, walking around with my gma on my ring finger might creep me out...lol!
Lol I could just picture that.Giving your daughter a ring and saying "Don't do anything bad grandma is watching":rotfl:
swald91
08-27-2009, 02:36 PM
Oh, I'm not voicing my opinion on whether or not it's "ok" to do this at WDW...I'm gunna keep that to myself ;) Just saying it wouldn't bother me if someone came and dumped ashes in my yard...and honestly...they could do it under my kid's swing and I probably wouldn't even notice...:flower3:
Funny thing is though...I was googling stuff to make sure that you couldn't catch diseases from human ashes, and I found a site where this company will make DIAMONDS out of your loved one's ashes. Now, walking around with my gma on my ring finger might creep me out...lol!
Actually, I think that's VERY interesting!!! What is the website??? I don't have any family members that have been cremated, but just learning about stuff like that is neat! I don't think wearing your loved one on a ring, pendant would be any creepier than having them on a shelf...
Doc CW
08-27-2009, 02:40 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
I like this idea, it certainly has potential. I would do this for sure. I am in fact one of those people who pour the ashes out. It is requested of me to do that for my parents and I will definitely be doing this. I hope that my kids would do it for me as well. I do like the idea of a Disney cemetery I would pay to have my parents in it and me as well. :cool2:
Sleeping Becca
08-27-2009, 02:42 PM
I would have absolutely no problem with a former homeowner's family coming and leaving their ashes on my property. It's the circle of life!
I also would have no problem with someone spreading their ashes on my property.
Now I prob would have a problem if someone showed up with a backhoe and dropped a vault and lowered a casket in my backyard.
Some ashes sprinked around, I seriously doubt if I would even notice. Even if the kids got a little of grandma on their feet, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust
It seems very natural to me!
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 02:46 PM
If you were to die of AIDS, SARS, Hepatitis or any other tranferable disease and were cremated the heat of the fire would kill the virus COMPLETLY. Also viruses can only live outside a living host for so long. And if you were scattered in my front yard the wind would carry you away. So I guess to answer your question, It would not bother me.
The reason people are not allowed to dump their remains in a pile at Yankee stadium is simple. Living people do not want to look at a growing pile of ashes. Have you seen the quantity of ashes a full grown person leaves behind? It's a lot. More people should do what my father had done with his. The majority of him went into the lake behind his house and my brother and I received a small amount. He is in an urn in my living room until I find a place to put him. Because really, after I pass who am I going to leave him too? The thought of passing down Grandpa Finley from generation to generation grosses me out more than spreading him somewhere.
It's that it's an eyesore and not that it's just ... grotesque to think of human remains in a pile that keeps the Yankees from allowing this? It's not that a LOT of people -- I included -- consider this a health issue that keeps the Yankees from capitalizing on this possible cash bonanza? It's the asthetics of it all? Very well then.
This is apparently an argument I will not win, so it is one I will no longer pursue. Your opinions are your own and that is your right.
But I ask you to consider the feelings of others before you share your burned up human remains with the world. I, for one, am not interested in helping you share whatever it is you have to offer in your altered state of non-existence, any more than I want my dog's charred remains in an urn on my dinner table.
I wish you well and hope you can respect the feelings of others in this matter.
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 02:46 PM
Actually, I think that's VERY interesting!!! What is the website??? I don't have any family members that have been cremated, but just learning about stuff like that is neat! I don't think wearing your loved one on a ring, pendant would be any creepier than having them on a shelf...
http://***************************/article/123417/diamonds_from_human_ashes.html?cat=4
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 02:49 PM
Lol I could just picture that.Giving your daughter a ring and saying "Don't do anything bad grandma is watching":rotfl:
Yeah...no WAY! My gma already tells me I'm going to HeIl...I can already hear her little voice coming from my ring finger...make it stop! make it stop! :headache:
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 02:52 PM
It's not that a LOT of people -- I included -- consider this a health issue that keeps the Yankees from capitalizing on this possible cash bonanza? It's the asthetics of it all? Very well then.
Human Remains in Ash form are NOT a Health Issue. It's not an opinion, it's a fact. And if you disagree...show me a reputable source of information that says it is, and I will evaluate it.
kmk1180
08-27-2009, 03:14 PM
2. But I rate it slightly below the feak mother who stopped, dropped and gave birth walking through Cinderella's Castle. And refused to leave till she was done.
:scared1: OMG someone did NOT do that! NO WAY! :eek:
that's what I remember reading.
I think I even read about it on the dis like a year or two ago.
can you imagine the mess? or walking by with your kids and seeing that happen?
She apparently planned it. Wanted to say her child was born in Cinderella's Castle.
Now that's taking being a disney fan too far.
Ameraucanas
08-27-2009, 03:15 PM
It's that it's an eyesore and not that it's just ... grotesque to think of human remains in a pile that keeps the Yankees from allowing this? It's not that a LOT of people -- I included -- consider this a health issue that keeps the Yankees from capitalizing on this possible cash bonanza? It's the asthetics of it all? Very well then.
This is apparently an argument I will not win, so it is one I will no longer pursue. Your opinions are your own and that is your right.
But I ask you to consider the feelings of others before you share your burned up human remains with the world. I, for one, am not interested in helping you share whatever it is you have to offer in your altered state of non-existence, any more than I want my dog's charred remains in an urn on my dinner table.
I wish you well and hope you can respect the feelings of others in this matter.
You really think human ashes are a health hazard and you can get diseases from them? Wow, just wow. I have heard some crazy things in my life, but yeah...
As for having a huge pile of ashes in the middle of a stadium/attraction I agree it might look weird. But, honestly I don't care where people spread the ashes as long as it does ruin any machinery in WDW or add dust to where their shouldn't normally be any.
kissthemouse
08-27-2009, 03:21 PM
that's what I remember reading.
I think I even read about it on the dis like a year or two ago.
can you imagine the mess? or walking by with your kids and seeing that happen?
She apparently planned it. Wanted to say her child was born in Cinderella's Castle.
Now that's taking being a disney fan too far.
I can't believe they didn't lift her butt up and haul her out on a stretcher!!!
Seriously...I'm RARELY speechless...but this...yeah...I don't even know where to start...but I will say, I can't imagine walking around the MK for the 36 hrs I was in labor with my DD waiting for the right moment to park my behind "in" the castle to deliver her...(guess I wasn't TOTALLY speechless after all...LOL!)
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 03:21 PM
I do not believe there to be a health risk however do you all have any idea what it would do to my DD7 if she found out about all this? And yes, she would notice someone dumping or dusting ashes on a ride, she would ask, she would eventually find out even if I evaded from telling her. She is just that kind of kid. It would completely ruin the trip for her..........SERIOUSLY. DS8 might put on a brave show in front of sis but he would probably have nightmares while at the world. And I know that my children are not the only ones who would have problems, not by a long shot.
So folks, if you are bound and determined.......Be very, very sensitive to others. You just may unwittingly forever ruin WDW for a child.:guilty:
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 03:24 PM
I do not believe there to be a health risk however do you all have any idea what it would do to my DD7 if she found out about all this? And yes, she would notice someone dumping or dusting ashes on a ride, she would ask, she would eventually find out even if I evaded from telling her. She is just that kind of kid. It would completely ruin the trip for her..........SERIOUSLY. DS8 might put on a brave show in from of sis but he would probably have nightmares while at the world. And I know that my children are not the only ones who would have problems, not by a long shot.
So folks, if you are bound and determined.......Be very, very sensitive to others. You just may unwittingly forever ruin WDW for a child.:guilty:
How on earth would a 7 year old find out such a thing, unless you chose to tell her? Mine might notice someone throwing something out, but, really it is Disney. The thought would last 2 seconds, because Captain Jack is in the next scene, or whatever the ride entails. I don't know why anyone would be paying that much attention to the actions of others.
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 03:38 PM
Because my daughter notices everything, because she would loudly ask everyone, because she would make comments about it until someone would say something, because she would report to a cm, because people are not always very sly, because people do not always watch their tongues, because she is very smart!
Pecobill
08-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Because my daughter notices everything, because she would loudly ask everyone, because she would make comments about it until someone would say something, because she would report to a cm, because people are not always very sly, because people do not always watch their tongues, because she is very smart!
You could always figure out a way to tell her and not ruin the magic of Disney...or you could make up something.
litlpixie
08-27-2009, 03:57 PM
For me, it would be World Showcase Lagoon-hands down!!:)
...or maybe I could be part of the sand at SAB....KIDDING!!!!!!
Mlissa88
08-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Maybe they could use those empty Leave a Legacy stones by SSE and transform them into a columbarium. I think it's the least they can do for those of us that never got a chance to put something there before it closed. It still makes me angry walking by the empty stones and knowing I can't add my message.
Maybe the Disney Burial Club (DBC)?
I'm still laughing about the Disney Burial Club idea (DBC).....too funny!
I wonder what my dues would be and if I get that spot until 2042 - would they then they move my ash right out of there unless I got the extended contract?.... lol..
Incentive programs? Anyone? lol... Obviously there's a park discount but no dining packages needed....
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 04:03 PM
I'd like to say that she would be okay with it but she is freaked out about death/dying right now (it's a phase...), starts crying when she realizes she will outlive her hamster or the thought mommy won't be around forever, cries over her deceased pet bunny who is buried in the backyard. She hasn't even walked in that area (small yard) in 3 months. As to lying.......she'll see through it. She is perceptive & even caught her teacher in a white lie. Teacher had to call me to explain. :rolleyes1
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 04:27 PM
Because my daughter notices everything, because she would loudly ask everyone, because she would make comments about it until someone would say something, because she would report to a cm, because people are not always very sly, because people do not always watch their tongues, because she is very smart!
Maybe that would be the time to explain to her that talking loudly, talking about the actions of others, and asking strangers rudes questions is rude. And if it is you she is asking, she might need to learn that some things are really just none of her business.
GrillMouster
08-27-2009, 04:36 PM
For those of you grossed out by the thought of scattered ashes around the parks, imagine this:
Remember when WDW restrooms used to have powdered hand soap?
"Mom, I found a tooth in my soap."
kidrericha
08-27-2009, 04:40 PM
Forget spreading my ashes at WDW. My wish was to be cremated in the burning settler's cabin. So much for that.
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 04:41 PM
Indiana
My DD is not a rude child! If someone does something she doesn't understand it is NORMAL for a child to ask for an explanation. Ignoring a child does not alleviate the situation. It makes it worse. Maybe you think that all children are rude? Seems like from the tone that you are insensitive to children period. You did not like my response. I did not post it just for myself.
Maybe YOU NEED A TIMEOUT! :mad:
nicknamy1996
08-27-2009, 04:51 PM
I would have absolutely no problem with a former homeowner's family coming and leaving their ashes on my property. It's the circle of life!
I would not either! Actually thinking about it, I spent the first 22 years of my life at one house, and in the woods behind it. I'd wouldn't mind that being a resting place for some of my ashes. So if someone was really attached to my current house I'd happily oblige. Once again, it's basically powder it will just blend it to the ground and be gone... and that goes for anywhere you put it. And earlier someone who was opposed to it said it would be ok to spread it in the grass of a cemetery, but not the grass of WDW. What's the logic behind that?
The ONLY valid argument to a decent scattering (a sprinkle in the flowers, lagoon, moat, etc...) I've seen so far is that it could be mistaken for something else (anthrax) and force a shutdown or evacuation.
And more on the argument that its going to wash away, be swept up etc... that's going to happen anywhere. It's SYMBOLIC!!! I put some of my dads at his favorite fishing spot 3 years ago. That's LONG gone by now... but it was still symbolic and moving.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 04:54 PM
Indiana
My DD is not a rude child! If someone does something she doesn't understand it is NORMAL for a child to ask for an explanation. Ignoring a child does not alleviate the situation. It makes it worse. Maybe you think that all children are rude? Seems like from the tone that you are insensitive to children period. You did not like my response. I did not post it just for myself.
Maybe YOU NEED A TIMEOUT! :mad:
Don't be silly. I just believe that there is nothing wrong with telling a child that something an adult does is really none of their business. No more no less. At 3 or 4, my kids would say someone had a big butt or ask intrusive questions. By 7, they understood that socially this is inappropriate. Maybe you need to read this without a 'tone' in your head.
mgilmer
08-27-2009, 04:56 PM
For me, it would be the water around Cinderella's Castle!!! That way I would eternally be at the Castle.
I told my DW that, when I die and am cremated, she could either 1) spead my ashes in Bay Lake or 2) have me made into a diamond. I think she likes the diamond idea better! :rotfl:
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 04:58 PM
I would also add that I wasn't the one who stated that your child was loud. That was your information. Loud = rude in my book.
kidrericha
08-27-2009, 04:59 PM
My DD is not a rude child!
Yeah, but you gotta admit, you're biased.
Pecobill
08-27-2009, 05:02 PM
Indiana
My DD is not a rude child! If someone does something she doesn't understand it is NORMAL for a child to ask for an explanation. Ignoring a child does not alleviate the situation. It makes it worse. Maybe you think that all children are rude? Seems like from the tone that you are insensitive to children period. You did not like my response. I did not post it just for myself.
Maybe YOU NEED A TIMEOUT! :mad:
Doesn't sound normal to me.She sounds rude
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Indiana,
Perhaps you have forgotten that she wasn't asking about the features on a person, which she would not do, but rather what they were doing. Which is what she would have observed & would consider littering. Which, btw she would promptly report to a cm.
nicknamy1996
08-27-2009, 05:15 PM
Indiana,
Perhaps you have forgotten that she wasn't asking about the features on a person, which she would not do, but rather what they were doing. Which is what she would have observed & would consider littering. Which, btw she would promptly report to a cm.
Really? So if your 7 year old sees someone "miss" a trash can with a cup she runs for the nearest CM? Does she take you with her?
My oldest (who was maybe 8 at the time) just asked me if it was OK for him to pick it up and throw it away.
nicknamy1996
08-27-2009, 05:15 PM
Yeah, but you gotta admit, you're biased.
cute!
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 05:27 PM
Well since she can't go back on the ride & hop out with a dust pan....YES, she would tell a cm.
Yes, since I am her mom, I am biased.
Yes, she has a "piercing" quality to her voice, it carries & it is loud even if she is talking soft.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 05:48 PM
Indiana,
Perhaps you have forgotten that she wasn't asking about the features on a person, which she would not do, but rather what they were doing. Which is what she would have observed & would consider littering. Which, btw she would promptly report to a cm.
Why? And why would you allow it? my kids would just ask what was going on, and when I told them it wasn't their problem, they would go on with life and enjoying themselves. Narcing to a cm would never occur to them.
Loud conversation about other people is rude, regardless of what one is discussing.
GrillMouster
08-27-2009, 05:51 PM
drama
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 05:52 PM
drama
boredom?:upsidedow
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 05:57 PM
omg The DBC. I want in! :lmao:
GrillMouster
08-27-2009, 05:59 PM
boredom?:upsidedow
lol
Some people freak out and worry about the smallest things.
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 06:01 PM
This happens in WDW daily. If you've been to Disney more than a few times and haven't noticed yet, I doubt you ever will.
kidrericha
08-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Indiana,
Perhaps you have forgotten that she wasn't asking about the features on a person, which she would not do, but rather what they were doing. Which is what she would have observed & would consider littering. Which, btw she would promptly report to a cm.
The perfect child.
cnktruitt
08-27-2009, 06:08 PM
How's this instead?
I spot you dumping your loved ones remains in HM & I'll report it to a cm, they locate the incident on camera & it is recorded for all time, they call the police, you get arrested, the cleaning squad enters, your loved ones remains are vacd, mopped & bleached & hauled to a landfill.
Happy now?:goodvibes
kidrericha
08-27-2009, 06:12 PM
How's this instead?
I spot you dumping your loved ones remains in HM & I'll report it to a cm, they locate the incident on camera & it is recorded for all time, they call the police, you get arrested, the cleaning squad enters, your loved ones remains are vacd, mopped & bleached & hauled to a landfill.
Happy now?:goodvibes
Parent to a perfect child.
BTW, my daughter would promptly report it to a CM as she's helping an old lady cross the street, so.... you know.... she wins the Perfect Child Cup.
eastcarolinafan
08-27-2009, 06:14 PM
Doesn't sound normal to me.She sounds rude
Sounds like a kid to me. Sounds like my kid to me. Sounds like a nice, normal seven-year-old kid who, when confronted with something she doesn't understand, turns to the person she assumes does (that would be me) and asks about it. It's not rude. It's in no way rude. It's not meant to be rude. It's a natural curiosity that ALL kids have. It's what makes them want to learn stuff.
:hippie::littleangel::scared1: (sorry about the icons right in the middle of this response, but my daughter -- that pesky 7 year old -- just asked what i was doing and saw all the cool faces on the side. She asked if she could put those on this response, so I let her. I realize it was a moment of weakness, but I just had to let her. I know I spoil her.
Anyhoo, there is no need to shut down a child who is asking a legit question. That just leads to more questions.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:15 PM
How's this instead?
I spot you dumping your loved ones remains in HM & I'll report it to a cm, they locate the incident on camera & it is recorded for all time, they call the police, you get arrested, the cleaning squad enters, your loved ones remains are vacd, mopped & bleached & hauled to a landfill.
Happy now?:goodvibes
LOL, like mother like daughter! I'll still risk it if I like. Because most people do mind their own business, and aren't narcs.:scared1:
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:20 PM
I wonder how they'd clean up if you threw them off of everest? How would they know what dust belonged and what didn't? Not that my mom would ever go on Everest! If you did on TOT you could throw them and catch them several times!
kidrericha
08-27-2009, 06:21 PM
LOL, like mother like daughter! I'll still risk it if I like. Because most people do mind their own business, and aren't narcs.:scared1:
And suddenly, "Informer" starts to play on my internal background music....
"A-licky-boom-boom-down!"
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:25 PM
And suddenly, "Informer" starts to play on my internal background music....
"A-licky-boom-boom-down!"
:rotfl:My youngest has just discovered the Brady Bunch and I keep picturing Cindy Brady tattling!
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 06:28 PM
Good thing it's really dark in the HM :dance3:
CLR4321
08-27-2009, 06:30 PM
I wonder how they'd clean up if you threw them off of everest? How would they know what dust belonged and what didn't? Not that my mom would ever go on Everest! If you did on TOT you could throw them and catch them several times!
LOL!!! Or you could hold an urn with the ashes in it, and the ashes would come floating up in front of your face while you are falling. :lmao:
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Good thing it's really dark in the HM :dance3:
Just get in line behind some couple that you know will be making out. Then the video watchers will be checking them out!
D. Crockett
08-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Maybe Disney just needs to revamp their pre-ride rules for all major attractions.
"Please keep hands & arms inside your vehicle at all times, and no flash photography or discharging of loved one's remains."
On a serious note. How often does this occur?
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:49 PM
Maybe Disney just needs to revamp their pre-ride rules for all major attractions.
"Please keep hands & arms inside your vehicle at all times, and no flash photography or discharging of loved one's remains."
On a serious note. How often does this occur?
Far too many people break the flash rule. Heck, that is much more irritating than dropping ashes, imo. If they don't need to follow one rule, why follow the other?:confused3
And, the HM does say there is always room for one more.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-27-2009, 06:50 PM
LOL!!! Or you could hold an urn with the ashes in it, and the ashes would come floating up in front of your face while you are falling. :lmao:
Now, that would make an interesting picture.
ZiPaD3doDAH
08-27-2009, 07:04 PM
I dont' know what to think of this.
At first, it's crazy and then I think about it, some people love Disney so much that they just want to be a part of it.
Same as when someone loves the ocean, they want their ashes scattered throughout it.
Same thing applies to the people who want their ashes scatted at Disney.
GJF323
08-27-2009, 07:11 PM
Maybe Disney just needs to revamp their pre-ride rules for all major attractions.
"Please keep hands & arms inside your vehicle at all times, and no flash photography or discharging of loved one's remains."
On a serious note. How often does this occur?
I love this. Maybe someone can make us a pictogram.
Our new favorite Disney phrase can be:
"Por favor mantenganse alejado de los restos cremados."
(I'm just guessing here, I don't speak Spanish well enough to translate).
D. Crockett
08-27-2009, 07:15 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
mickaholic4077
08-27-2009, 07:16 PM
The Seven Seas Lagoon is awefully large and I am sure that there would be tons of spots that are not supervised at all times. ;)
The night before the 25th anniversary of Epcot,I scattered a film canister's worth of my uncle's ashes in the 7 Seas Lagoon while I was on the launch from The Poly to the MK. Now every time I ride the launch from the Poly to the MK,I think of my uncle.
I have requested in my will that my ashes are placed inside of some kind of firework, preferably a skyrocket of some kind, and set off.
Wonder if my family could cut a deal with Disney for that????
Tribilín
08-27-2009, 07:23 PM
Our new favorite Disney phrase can be:
"Por favor mantenganse alejado de los restos cremados."
(I'm just guessing here, I don't speak Spanish well enough to translate).
LOL! And it´s very well written.
JeffGoldblum
08-27-2009, 07:28 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
Ahhhh hahhahah :thumbsup2
MaleficentRules
08-27-2009, 07:41 PM
omg The DBC. I want in! :lmao:
Ditto! I think it's a great idea!:rotfl:
MaleficentRules
08-27-2009, 07:45 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
ROTFLOL!!!!:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
That's awesome, dude. :worship:
maidenfairy
08-27-2009, 08:46 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
That is Hi-larious!
Lucky4me
08-27-2009, 09:14 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
:lmao: You guys are killing me on this thread. No pun intended.
Pecobill
08-27-2009, 09:15 PM
:lmao: You guys are killing me on this thread. No pun intended.
Well I'm "dying" of laughter:laughing:
Wall-E1
08-27-2009, 09:26 PM
Yes, I wouldn't either IF they asked & were put in a place where my children & friends & dogs didn't play! That's why I say-I, too would love to have my resting place there but just not randomly scattered...a proper place-YES!!! I just don't think people should think they have a right to do this-especially if it's against the law in Florida.
I think that for me, Disney is the proper place for me to rest in peace. I wouldn't be at peace lying amongst a bunch of dead, old people. I don't feel like I have an explicit right to be buried there. I'm just not concerned about breaking the law, as I'll be dead. Besides, I am a regular criminal anyway, and regularly live on the fringes of the law. I have committed crimes including, but not limited to, lying about my son's age at buffets. I have taken non flash photos on attractions where they say "no photography allowed". Outside of Disney, I have cheated while playing Battleship(moving my ships out of the line of fire). On a few occasions, I have made a right turn on red, even when not allowed. I have accelerated on yellow. I'm a big time jay walker. I have a kitchen drawer full of Taco Bell mild and spicy sauce packets, as well as duck sauce and soy sauce packets that I did not pay for. So, as you can see, I have no respect for the laws of Florida and obviously live a dangerous lifestyle. Nothing would please me more than to be able to break one final law after I am deceased. Viva la revolucion!
GrillMouster
08-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Live life now. All we are is Dust in the Wind.
rie'smom
08-27-2009, 10:15 PM
I told my DW that, when I die and am cremated, she could either 1) spead my ashes in Bay Lake or 2) have me made into a diamond. I think she likes the diamond idea better! :rotfl:
:rotfl:
Do you like my diamond? It's my husband!
omg The DBC. I want in! :lmao:
Me too!
GJF323, sorry I couldn't find your post but a brilliant idea:thumbsup2
I wonder how they'd clean up if you threw them off of everest? How would they know what dust belonged and what didn't? Not that my mom would ever go on Everest! If you did on TOT you could throw them and catch them several times!
The only way I'll ever get back on EE is if my ashes are in an urn. My daughter teases me about being chicken, it would be just like her to take me for a last ride on the scary coasters-EE and RnR- and then leave me there!!!:rotfl:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Traveling_Idiot/Disney001/Jar.jpg
:rotfl::lmao::rotfl2::rotfl2::worship:
DOOM1001
08-27-2009, 10:43 PM
As long as Disney doesn't try and profit from creating an actual memorial for people and their ashes then I'm allright,the Leave a Legacy sculptures at EPCOT already creep me out.Does anyone know how long they're supposed to be there,like when people put their tiles on there was there a contract saying how many years EPCOT would leave these,cause I've never liked them.As far as people spreading relative's ashes the way I look at it is I know it happens and for those families it's probably the way they want to remember a loved one,so I say leave it as it is and if people want to dump ashes in the seven seas lagoon at 3am then go for it, I just don't want memorials at Disney.
nicknamy1996
08-27-2009, 10:57 PM
As long as Disney doesn't try and profit from creating an actual memorial for people and their ashes then I'm allright,the Leave a Legacy sculptures at EPCOT already creep me out.Does anyone know how long they're supposed to be there,like when people put their tiles on there was there a contract saying how many years EPCOT would leave these,cause I've never liked them.As far as people spreading relative's ashes the way I look at it is I know it happens and for those families it's probably the way they want to remember a loved one,so I say leave it as it is and if people want to dump ashes in the seven seas lagoon at 3am then go for it, I just don't want memorials at Disney.
I believe we were guaranteed 25 years... but it's not guaranteed to be where it is, just "in EPCOT" .... somewhere.
ShelsGoingToDisney
08-28-2009, 01:38 AM
I have requested in my will that my ashes are placed inside of some kind of firework, preferably a skyrocket of some kind, and set off.
Wonder if my family could cut a deal with Disney for that????
I've mentioned that to my family several times. I love the idea of raining down over the park!
I have asked my family to do this for me. I have asked them to put up a nice picture and have a service. The idea of people standing around chit chatting next my dead body in an open casket is what really creeps me out! I don't want to be displayed other than a picture. Then cremate me, split me up in 3 piles. One for the beach, at this point I choose Clearwater Beach, one pile to go in the lake where our family vacations in the summer, and the last pile to go to WDW someplace. Now I don't want to be on a ride and be thrown in someone's face, in the moat around the castle or bushes/wishing well around the castle sounds nice.
My reasoning for this is I want my loved ones to go back to those places that made me happy and where we have great memories together and remember me fondly. I much prefer them going to WDW to "visit" me then some cemetary someplace!
My uncles ashes were scattered around his and my Dad's favorite fishing spot. My Dad returns there often to fish and relives his fond memories with my uncle. It makes him feel at peace. I want that for my family.
Indiana Rose you are so witty and have had me LMAO in some of your comments! :lmao:
luvthemouse71
08-28-2009, 02:49 AM
I do not believe there to be a health risk however do you all have any idea what it would do to my DD7 if she found out about all this? And yes, she would notice someone dumping or dusting ashes on a ride, she would ask, she would eventually find out even if I evaded from telling her. She is just that kind of kid. It would completely ruin the trip for her..........SERIOUSLY. DS8 might put on a brave show in front of sis but he would probably have nightmares while at the world. And I know that my children are not the only ones who would have problems, not by a long shot.
So folks, if you are bound and determined.......Be very, very sensitive to others. You just may unwittingly forever ruin WDW for a child.:guilty: Kids are tougher than we give them credit for. Death is a part of life-I'm not one of these people that thinks that kids should be overly sheltered.Yes, some kids are way sensitive but what can you do? Eventually they toughen up.
When my grandmother passed..all the little kids in my family were at the wake. Despite the fact that some people outside of the family thought that they'd be scarred for life..they did just fine. Each of them even gave her one last kiss before they closed the casket.She was the matriarch of our family and adored the greatgrandkids.
I think many times, we project our own fears onto our kids..if mom and dad don't make a big deal out of something, it's likely the kids won't either.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-28-2009, 05:41 AM
Cheating at Battleship is low.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-28-2009, 08:00 AM
Too funny! If you do this:How's this instead?
I spot you dumping your loved ones remains in HM & I'll report it to a cm, they locate the incident on camera & it is recorded for all time, they call the police, you get arrested, the cleaning squad enters, your loved ones remains are vacd, mopped & bleached & hauled to a landfill.
Happy now?:goodvibes
then because of this:
Because my daughter notices everything, because she would loudly ask everyone, because she would make comments about it until someone would say something, because she would report to a cm, because people are not always very sly, because people do not always watch their tongues, because she is very smart!
you will have to deal with this!
I'd like to say that she would be okay with it but she is freaked out about death/dying right now (it's a phase...), starts crying when she realizes she will outlive her hamster or the thought mommy won't be around forever, cries over her deceased pet bunny who is buried in the backyard. She hasn't even walked in that area (small yard) in 3 months.
WDW1st-timers
08-28-2009, 09:26 AM
I told my hubby last night that I wanted my ashes to be spread all around Disney. He looked at me and laughed...til he realized that I was serious. So now to have it put in writting.;)
BTW-I would of never thought of this. Thanks DIS board members....it's all your faults. If nothing would of been mentioned on these boards, I would be burried in a 6 foot hole in the ground 40 years from now. :rotfl:
DisBride2009
08-28-2009, 09:31 AM
Wow but no offence, that is so gross! Why would someone spread someone else's ashes on a Disney World attraction? I think that if they do they wouldn't be there long. I mean what would happen when they clean the water or something? Or clean around? I don't know just saying :)
eastcarolinafan
08-28-2009, 10:01 AM
Wow but no offence, that is so gross! Why would someone spread someone else's ashes on a Disney World attraction? I think that if they do they wouldn't be there long. I mean what would happen when they clean the water or something? Or clean around? I don't know just saying :)
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
Indiana Rose Lee
08-28-2009, 10:05 AM
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
LOL, do you know how many rat hairs are allowed in your jar of peanut butter?:rotfl:
You can feel however you want. Other people are allowed to disagree, and think that you are ridiculous as you think they are.
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 10:07 AM
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
No one ever said you couldn't think it was gross...just disputed the fact that you said you could catch diseases from the ashes...that's all. There were plenty of other people on here who said they thought it was gross, but they didn't throw out random information as if it was fact.
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 10:09 AM
LOL, do you know how many rat hairs are allowed in your jar of peanut butter?:rotfl:
You can feel however you want. Other people are allowed to disagree, and think that you are ridiculous as you think they are.
or how many dead bugs are acceptable in your can of orange juice concentrate (ooo...and if they were alive when frozen...maybe they'd thaw out when you made hte juice and then you could drink live bugs...FUN!)...it's more than you'd think! That icks me out a whole lot more than human ashes!
Indiana Rose Lee
08-28-2009, 10:18 AM
or how many dead bugs are acceptable in your can of orange juice concentrate (ooo...and if they were alive when frozen...maybe they'd thaw out when you made hte juice and then you could drink live bugs...FUN!)...it's more than you'd think! That icks me out a whole lot more than human ashes!
http://healthmad.com/health/is-your-food-bugged/
eastcarolinafan
08-28-2009, 10:18 AM
LOL, do you know how many rat hairs are allowed in your jar of peanut butter?:rotfl:
You can feel however you want. Other people are allowed to disagree, and think that you are ridiculous as you think they are.
See? It doesn't matter that you think it's gross. What matters is what they think.
Pecobill
08-28-2009, 10:20 AM
See?
And the show begins....AGAINpopcorn::
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 10:22 AM
http://healthmad.com/health/is-your-food-bugged/
Thanks for the link...I wasn't going to go hunting this morning to find out exactly, but it's one of the few things I remember from college! LOL!
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 10:23 AM
See? It doesn't matter that you think it's gross. What matters is what they think.
You are selectively listening...we are FINE with you THINKING it's gross. We are not fine with you throwing out false information about catching deadly diseases from someone doing it.
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 10:24 AM
And the show begins....AGAINpopcorn::
;) At least it won't be a boring Friday at work today. :goodvibes
Pecobill
08-28-2009, 10:25 AM
;) At least it won't be a boring Friday at work today. :goodvibes
Lol true We'll be going from this:surfweb:.....To this:happytv:
Remember the scene in "The Evening Star" when Shirley MacLaine and Jack Nicholson let "Rosie's" ashes go as they sat atop his Corvette speeding along the beach? That's what I want my family to do only in a Water Mouse in Bay Lake or Seven Seas Lagoon.:thumbsup2
eastcarolinafan
08-28-2009, 10:34 AM
And the show begins....AGAINpopcorn::
You are absolutely right. I said I as done and I reneged. I was dragged back into it. I apologize. This time I am really done. I promise.:littleangel:
Wall-E1
08-28-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
Not saying that it doesn't matter what you think, but it is no more gross than any of the other points that people have been making (dead bugs, rat hairs, etc). Also, do you realize that each living person sheds 30,000 - 40,000 dead skin cells each minute. Multiply that by the tens of thousands of people in each park and you are talking about billions of dead skin cells being released every minute into the air of each park. Perhaps Disney should also ban living people from their parks due to this problem. Enjoy your dole whip.
Lucky4me
08-28-2009, 10:48 AM
See? It doesn't matter that you think it's gross. What matters is what they think.
You poor thing. Of course we care. We really do. Don't ever think we don't. I sincerely hope this thread doesn't completely ruin WDW for you. :hug: :hug::grouphug::grouphug:
So, about the exciting new Disney Burial Club aka the DBC-anyone have a point structure idea? I bet the view complaints would be far and few between, huh?
Tribilín
08-28-2009, 10:58 AM
Well Disney may better get ready for a burial service soon. I talked about this matter with some friends and they all seemed to love the idea. So I guess it´s no so uncommon.
Should we start calling it DBC?
Tribilín
08-28-2009, 11:03 AM
So, about the exciting new Disney Burial Club aka the DBC-anyone have a point structure idea? I bet the view complaints would be far and few between, huh?
LOL! I guess it took me too much time to write my last comment.... still not sure about the point structure, doesn´t DVC have a time limit? I want my last residence to last forever.
Wall-E1
08-28-2009, 11:08 AM
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
Not saying that it doesn't matter what you think, but it is no more gross than any of the other points that people have been making (dead bugs, rat hairs, etc). Also, do you realize that each living person sheds 30,000 - 40,000 dead skin cells each minute. Multiply that by the tens of thousands of people in each park and you are talking about billions of dead skin cells being released every minute into the air of each park. Perhaps Disney should also ban living people from their parks due to this problem. Enjoy your dole whip.
Wall-E1
08-28-2009, 11:12 AM
Oops, double post.
Sleeping Becca
08-28-2009, 11:12 AM
For the record, cockroaches would be completely vaporized during cremation. There would be nothing left to sprinkle on my Dole Whip.
BTW, there are tons of folks in this world who don't like the idea of cremation, many in my own family. I'm sure there are many who think the idea of remains being sprinkled in public places is gross. There are more people buried than are cremated. I have absolutely no problem with others having different views.
nicknamy1996
08-28-2009, 11:40 AM
LOL, do you know how many rat hairs are allowed in your jar of peanut butter?:rotfl:
You can feel however you want. Other people are allowed to disagree, and think that you are ridiculous as you think they are.
Years ago I heard this about tuna, they even put it under a microscope...eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww! Doesn't stop me from eating it, but it was pretty wild.
And as for the cockroaches being incinerated.. I'm pretty certain there would be NOTHING left to spread around.
It's actually funny that the cockroach was brought up. But I've always said there is nothing gross about eating a cockroach. There's something gross about the THOUGHT of eating a cockroach. If you at a pizza... and it was the best pizza you've ever had there's nothing gross about that. But then if 2 hours later I told you there were a half dozen roaches cooked in to it you would THEN think it was gross.
I'm on board with the agree to disagree... but it's pretty hard to argue that point. I once at a Hostess cup cake w/ a cold glass of milk... and it was great. Then I pulled the second one out of the pack and it was COVERED in mold! There was a hole in the packaging. Now all of the sudden I was sick to my stomach for the next hour, knowing that there was some, if not a lot of mold on the one I had already ate.
So it's the thought that's gross... not the doing of it. I think that can be applied to the ashes thing too. There's no risk, hazard, or lasting effects of spreading ashes on the ground... and as many of you have pointed out, they will simply wash away. But the thought of it may be gross. So in this case what you don't see or know (literally) can not hurt you. Take for example the fact that 1000's of people have already done this (probably for decades) and it hasn't grossed you out yet.
WDW1st-timers
08-28-2009, 12:02 PM
And the show begins....AGAINpopcorn::
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: It doesn't take long and the party begins.popcorn::
Lucky4me
08-28-2009, 12:03 PM
For the record, cockroaches would be completely vaporized during cremation. There would be nothing left to sprinkle on my Dole Whip.
BTW, there are tons of folks in this world who don't like the idea of cremation, many in my own family. I'm sure there are many who think the idea of remains being sprinkled in public places is gross. There are more people buried than are cremated. I have absolutely no problem with others having different views.
I think they meant park guests, the live ones, that their dead skin would fall into the Dole Whip, not cremated ashes. Ew.
No one likes the idea of death, but a little levity never hurts. :)
dis75ney
08-28-2009, 12:47 PM
And now I'm craving a Dole Whip... :worship:
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 01:14 PM
And now I'm craving a Dole Whip... :worship:
Would you like the incinerated teeth and cockroach topping or the human skin flake topping? The skin flake topping is free, but if you want the teeth and cockroach topping, it'll be an extra charge.
dis75ney
08-28-2009, 01:30 PM
Would you like the incinerated teeth and cockroach topping or the human skin flake topping? The skin flake topping is free, but if you want the teeth and cockroach topping, it'll be an extra charge.
Ooooo...decisions, decisions...
Would that qualify as a snack credit on the DDP? :laughing:
kissthemouse
08-28-2009, 01:43 PM
Ooooo...decisions, decisions...
Would that qualify as a snack credit on the DDP? :laughing:
I'm sorry, we get that topping from a third party vendor, and therefore it is not a DDP eligible item. However, we do offer the Mickey Mouse Hair Peanut Butter and Jelly which would qualify as a snack credit.
Mlissa88
08-28-2009, 02:18 PM
You poor thing. Of course we care. We really do. Don't ever think we don't. I sincerely hope this thread doesn't completely ruin WDW for you. :hug: :hug::grouphug::grouphug:
So, about the exciting new Disney Burial Club aka the DBC-anyone have a point structure idea? I bet the view complaints would be far and few between, huh?
I'd probably get "add-on-itis" with DBC just like I'm starting to get with DVC.
And then I'd have to worry about freeloading dead relatives wanting to hang out with me in my DBC location.
Henna's_Mom
08-28-2009, 02:24 PM
I was never really a fan of the Dole Whip.
GrillMouster
08-28-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm having my remains dumped in the Haunted Mansion, but foregoing the cremation.
I wanna be propped up in the graveyard scene.
Sleeping Becca
08-28-2009, 02:45 PM
I'm having my remains dumped in the Haunted Mansion, but foregoing the cremation.
I wanna be propped up in the graveyard scene.
That is going to be REALLY tough to pull off!
I wish your family members the best of luck! I would recommend getting a Florida criminal defense attorney on retainer, before any attempts are made! lol If you live out of state, there may also be federal charges brought for transporting a corpse over state lines, so keep that in mind when looking for an attorney!
Indiana Rose Lee
08-28-2009, 02:58 PM
I'm having my remains dumped in the Haunted Mansion, but foregoing the cremation.
I wanna be propped up in the graveyard scene.
LOL, that would be fun!
I figure little sprinkles everywhere is easier than a big pile of dust.:rolleyes1
WDW1st-timers
08-28-2009, 03:07 PM
I was never really a fan of the Dole Whip.
WHAT?????????????????? Are you insane?????? :scared1::scared1::scared1:
Just kidding! ;)
Tribilín
08-28-2009, 04:12 PM
I was never really a fan of the Dole Whip.
Now this thread is starting to scare me :scared1:
cakesnjammom
08-28-2009, 05:31 PM
eeewwwwww:eek::eek:
FlightlessDuck
08-28-2009, 07:13 PM
I don't have a problem with gross-out factor, but there are other issues to consider here.
First, there is the issue of ride safety. Haunted Mansion might be dusty, but Imagineers but the dust in specific places. If random people are dumping ashes, there is no way to know if they are getting ash into some mechanism of the ride that shouldn't be dusty. The same is true for other rides. Could the ash affect the brakes on one of the coasters?
And what about other types of dust? You could swear up and down that it was Grandma you jettisoned from your Doom Buggy, but what if it was Anthrax instead?
So while I understand why people want to to this, I think it is dangerous to do on rides.
Disney used to object to weddings on their property, but then they decided it was easier to let the weddings happen, but to control them. I think they same can be said for spreading ashes. Instead of Haunted Mansion being closed for 2 1/2 hours, it can open ten minutes late or close 10 minutes early while a family is allowed to spread ashes in predefined areas of the ride. It's a win-win situation. The grieving family gets to do as their dead relative wanted, and Disney gets to be in control of the situation. :wizard: Although it would probably be in bad taste for them to charge for this...
pinktink83
08-28-2009, 07:58 PM
Isnt this why they sell memorium bricks? Or is that only at Disneyland??? I think its gross to dump remains in the park. Not even that it "used to be" a body, but because its a bunch of ashy dirt. Why would you put that in the water of the rides or around the moat? :confused3 If everyone started doing it, it would be murky and disgusting. Not to mention it messes with the ph balance and wildlife lives in the parks and in the moat. And I agree that its dangerous to do on the rides...mucks up the tracks!
Spanky
08-28-2009, 08:00 PM
It is my understanding that Texas will no longer give you the ashes back - funeral homes will only release them to a graveyard or a place for ash urns. No more urns sitting on the mantle at your home. The powers that be decided it was unhealthy. Ashes must be disposed in a controlled way - you are no longer free to spread them where you wish. I imagine other states will also add this to their laws. I think Florida already has this law.
A Mickeyfan
08-28-2009, 08:16 PM
I have told my kids for years that when I die, I would love for them to take a pinch of my ashes and let them go over the mote near Cindy's Castle ;) In fact, I joked with my older DD that I really would like her to get a job as Tink flying out of the window from the Castle to make it easier to sprinkle the pinch of ashes....:goodvibes Just a tiny pinch of ashes ... that is all.
Tracie
08-28-2009, 08:25 PM
It is my understanding that Texas will no longer give you the ashes back - funeral homes will only release them to a graveyard or a place for ash urns. No more urns sitting on the mantle at your home. The powers that be decided it was unhealthy. Ashes must be disposed in a controlled way - you are no longer free to spread them where you wish. I imagine other states will also add this to their laws. I think Florida already has this law.
That is not true, at least in all of Texas. My SIL passed away this past May, she was cremated and my husband and I picked up the remains for my BIL.
luvthemouse71
08-28-2009, 08:25 PM
Would you like the incinerated teeth and cockroach topping or the human skin flake topping? The skin flake topping is free, but if you want the teeth and cockroach topping, it'll be an extra charge.
I could use more calcium in my diet, so I'll go with the teeth.:)
In my state, they still give you the ashes. You can divide them up too..I wouldn't put all my ashes at WDW just a small amount.
There have been times at work that a patient will lose a finger, we weren't able to reattach, and they wanted it back!! To show people, they said. Had to tell them no in that case!
Also, in some religions, if someone loses a limb, they will bury it with the proper ritual. I know in those cases, they can have it back, but pathology has to release it, and they probably have to release to the funeral home..
maidenfairy
08-28-2009, 09:42 PM
I agree with not putting your ashes in the ride itself. You could harm the mechanisms. And please don't ruin a ride just because you can no longer ride. it.
If you are going to do it, you should put your ashes in a place where you can be one with the earth. Dust to dust and all that jazz. And remember your going to have A LOT of ashes. A little here and there is less noticable than a half gallon of ashes.
Scrooge Jr
08-28-2009, 10:08 PM
Disney has been missing a HUGE opportunity for profit, by not building a Disney Cemetery. :)
LOL!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
livinlife25
08-28-2009, 10:55 PM
Id love to see the thread on the woman giving birth at the castle!
A Mickeyfan
08-28-2009, 11:29 PM
Not only are they missing out on a profit for a cemetary but they as per my DD, they need a nursing home too.. :lmao: She hope they have one by the time I am senile and ready for one.. when you think about it, it really isn't a bad idea. I know my family, if they had to place me in one, would definatly place me in a Disney one! :thumbsup2
The Mickey Mouse Seniors Club... that could be the name of it...:rotfl:
Buzz Litebeer
08-29-2009, 01:09 AM
Forget spreading my ashes at WDW. My wish was to be cremated in the burning settler's cabin. So much for that.
Why not inside the "dead Indian" on the hill just past the Indian Village?
Should we start calling it DBC?
I'm voting for LASTPASS.
"Wait In Line. For All Time."
ShelsGoingToDisney
08-29-2009, 01:31 AM
I'm voting for LASTPASS.
"Wait In Line. For All Time."
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
kissthemouse
08-29-2009, 08:45 AM
I'm voting for LASTPASS.
"Wait In Line. For All Time."
OMG!! LMFAO!!! :rotfl2:
GrillMouster
08-29-2009, 09:29 AM
Isnt this why they sell memorium bricks?...
Y'know how you can have your ashes made into a gem? It would be cool to have your ashes mixed into the a memorium brick and placed at WDW.
TiggerStac
08-29-2009, 09:45 AM
Nothing new..been happening for years.POC is another popular spot
Yup...some of my great uncles ashes were put at the jail scene.
They were in a trinket box, sealed and got knocked off a shelf in cleaning. My aunt (his daughter) didn't know what to do with them, when she got up as much as she could, so they decided to put them in POTC.
They kept it a secret from my nana for years, it finally came out a year or 2 before she died. Everytime I'm there..we say hi to Uncle Chuck.
ps...I have posted this story on here before, just in case it looks familar to some :goodvibes
tinkerbellsmom05
09-03-2009, 07:10 AM
ooohhhh...what a great idea....that is where i would want my ashes! Anywhere in the water so they can't sweep me up! Rivers of America? POTC? Hmmm...where else could they put me? OHHHH! Splash Mountain!!! Just kidding....it's gross, but wouldn't it be fun to spend eternity in DW?
disney kid at heart
09-03-2009, 07:48 AM
Ok I came across this today looking for something else and I wanted to share it here. I've been thinking..wow..are you kidding me? I mean, I'm starting to not be shocked by much of what people try in the parks anymore. But this kinda creeps me out.
Discuss please...
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My daughter-in-law's father requested his ashes go up in cincinnati webn fireworks and rossi fireworks let her watch them put them in and told her which one he would go up in. I have always wanted my ashes to go up in wishes fireworks and really hope it can be done! It has always been my favorite place on earth and i want to be there always.
disney kid at heart
09-03-2009, 07:55 AM
Maybe Disney just needs to revamp their pre-ride rules for all major attractions.
"Please keep hands & arms inside your vehicle at all times, and no flash photography or discharging of loved one's remains."
On a serious note. How often does this occur?
I'm sure it happenes quite alot as sooo many want to stay in there favorite place on earth. I really hope I can go up in the Wishes fireworks. Awesome DW everyday! Awesome!!!
soupy11
09-03-2009, 09:26 AM
Oh boy, you're in for it now. Apparently it is not gross. Apparently sitting in or walking through or ingesting the cremated remains of another person not only is not gross, it is not bad for you at all, and many people don't care that you are offended because they know for sure it's OK.
Your feelings in this matter are irrelevant. My feelings in this matter don't matter either, for the record. So, human remains in cremated form will rain down from the heavens onto your Dole whip and you will like it. You will sit in the cremated remains of a human being on the benches of Epcot and not know the difference.
I don't know how these people would feel about ingesting the cremated remains of a cockroach colony (thousands of 'em just spread into your cereal) but apparently this presents no problem whatsoever because, of course, cremation burns off any ickiness that cockroaches carry with them:thumbsup2
Enjoy.
Question, since matter is finite and not created, where do you think the atoms that make up your body came from? Well, probably an atom from the intestine of a long dead rat here, some atoms from Frank Jones who died of the bubonic plague back in the middle ages, and a sprinkle of atoms from the local sewage plant.
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