Dissapointed again

[korzmom]

just wanted to say my dd got dissapointed again,last year she got the dreaded rejection letter and then last night got the results from the web based test that said she didnt meet their criteria .. i think disney will be losing alot of good candidates this way and the quaility of cp cast memebers better not go down because of this hiring process. i have alot of money invested in wdw and would hate to see that happen. I wrote an email to the recruiters but it probably wont matter, it just made me feel a little better,but my dd is still heartbroken and just a bit p*****..

[Pure_Imagination]

I agree with you. It's very easy to make a couple of costly mistakes on these kinds of quizzes. Especially if you are not used to taking them you don't know that it might be bad to put down a lot of "agree/disagrees" or "neutrals" instead of the stronger ones. It's really not a fair way.

[NicoleRose]

i wish they woudlve like tested it before doing it like this.
they should've given out the web interviews but still accepted everyone to go onto the phone interview and compared the statistics of people who failed the web-interview to people who weren't accepted after the phone interview to see if it was an effective step
b/c this just seems really blind, you know? a huge risk thats probably not worth taking
not that i'm underestimating disney's abilities lol but i just strongly dont agree with this decision

[Pure_Imagination]

^ I agree. At least give everyone a chance to do the phone interview or let everyone apply again before next season. What if this was the only time the program was good for you? Even when applying for other jobs they'll let you come back and try again. Disney doesn't have to make it that long- they could say maybe try again in 30 days or four weeks or whatever.

[Hollsey]

^ I agree. At least give everyone a chance to do the phone interview or let everyone apply again before next season. What if this was the only time the program was good for you? Even when applying for other jobs they'll let you come back and try again. Disney doesn't have to make it that long- they could say maybe try again in 30 days or four weeks or whatever.

I agree! I was hoping to do Spring before I got into taking courses for my major, and before I turned 21 (because I don't want to be tempted by any of that stuff).

I've never had a job before, and I was really hoping Disney could be my first if I wouldn't be able to get a job this fall. I really had no idea how to answer the questions, so I answered them honestly and truthfully. It stinks that Disney is being so picky.

I want to go to the presentation at a local school that's a month away from now and see how that is. I doubt they'll have any accommodations for me, but it can't HURT to go? I just wish there was a way I could email them and get a second chance. I don't want to beg or get rejected or have them make a special case for me.

I just started taking ADD meds for the first time in 5 years in hopes that it would help me on the CP. I answered the questions according to the way things are NOW, but they're going to change. I should have stated that. And if I am a bit untidy, I'd for sure make changes when I'm down there because I want to be there so badly. It stinks that with the web-based interviews, Disney won't give you that chance to explain your reasoning behind your answers. :sad2:

[korzmom]

maybe if everyone who agrees should email them with your opinions- i did. this was dd's last chance,she graduates after this semester and after she completes an internship,she was hoping to use the cp for her internship. and no there are no more pro internships left for her either,she will have a degree in travel and tourism/lodging and property management,and a certificate in casino man. hotel/motel man and diningroom man.

[Pure_Imagination]

^ Can't you still go the semester after you graduate? She could always try that.

[Berlioz70]

Out of curiosity - what is the this web based thing like? I know they used to start the CP interview with a series of basic questions and if you answered one question wrong you wouldn't be considered. I'm wondering if they just moved these questions to the web, or if the questions are different.

The questions that I'm thinking of are: Are you able to follow Disney Look (i.e. tattoos, piercing)? Are you okay with working with full ability (7 days a week, 24 hours)? Are you okay with working on holidays?

[Cinderella89]

i wish they woudlve like tested it before doing it like this.
they should've given out the web interviews but still accepted everyone to go onto the phone interview and compared the statistics of people who failed the web-interview to people who weren't accepted after the phone interview to see if it was an effective step
b/c this just seems really blind, you know? a huge risk thats probably not worth taking
not that i'm underestimating disney's abilities lol but i just strongly dont agree with this decision


They've been doing the web based interview for the Disneyland CP for a few years now. If it didn't work like they wanted it to, they would have gotten rid of it. But since this is the first time they're doing it for WDW, it's obviously effective.

[NicoleRose]

They've been doing the web based interview for the Disneyland CP for a few years now. If it didn't work like they wanted it to, they would have gotten rid of it. But since this is the first time they're doing it for WDW, it's obviously effective.

ah, i wasnt aware of that.
:/

[Loves Disney]

I heard Disney wants to try to get stricter on who they accept into the program - I suppose this is their way of doing it. I think they just want to see who qualifies as someone they want living in their apartments and working for their company. In the past, I know they have had troubles with people getting termed because of alcohol, parties, etc. And people have been accepted and then showed a lack of interest (i.e. calling out constantly, not taking their job seriously, and self-terming). Disney is probably using this web-based interview as a way to figure out who is going to put forth all their efforts and who is going to take the rules seriously. When taking these sorts of surveys, the people who take them, I think, should take them keeping in mind that it is a form of interview and based on how they answer the questions about themselves, Disney can see which types of people show the qualities they want in a CM. In an interview, I don't think it would be wise to tell the employer that you are messy, aren't fully interested in learning on the job, and things of that nature.

I'm not sure how I feel about the web-based interview, however. I did not have to use this for my CP and I saw many CPs not care about their job. My sister just took this interview so I'll get to see what results of it are through her time on the program. I feel bad for everyone who got denied so quickly through this, I can't imagine how disappointing it must be :( I wish everyone else taking it the best of luck!

[ashliejere]

Berlioz70,

The web based interview is a GALLUP. A lot of companies use this test to hire new employees. It's an employment personality profile. They ask you questions about work, your personality, your reactions to things and so on.

[NicoleRose]

since its used for a bunch of companies, has anyone found a place to like try it? like another company i can fake apply for or something?

[lillygator]

just wanted to say my dd got dissapointed again,last year she got the dreaded rejection letter and then last night got the results from the web based test that said she didnt meet their criteria .. i think disney will be losing alot of good candidates this way and the quaility of cp cast memebers better not go down because of this hiring process. i have alot of money invested in wdw and would hate to see that happen. I wrote an email to the recruiters but it probably wont matter, it just made me feel a little better,but my dd is still heartbroken and just a bit p*****..

what didn't she meet?

[Pure_Imagination]

since its used for a bunch of companies, has anyone found a place to like try it? like another company i can fake apply for or something?

I believe Kroger has this kind of interview, and I think someone on here mentioned Best Buy.

The reason I don't like it is, once you get used to taking these interviews you know what kind of answers you should put. I don't think it really helps determine who is Disney perfect and who isn't.

[Pecobill]

I believe Kroger has this kind of interview, and I think someone on here mentioned Best Buy.

The reason I don't like it is, once you get used to taking these interviews you know what kind of answers you should put. I don't think it really helps determine who is Disney perfect and who isn't.

And what answers should you put? I'm going to have to take this and I'm a bit worried.My last job didnt have much of an interview lol

[Pure_Imagination]

Just picture yourself in a work environment and imagine what kind of employees they would want. Don't picture yourself in a school environment because school and work are two completely different situations. You have to be consistent with your answers- they'll ask you a couple of questions multiple ways. For example "Are you a reliable person?" and then 10 questions later: "Can your co-workers depend on you?" Make sure you're always putting the same answer. Sometimes they'll switch questions around to try to trick you or throw in one word that throws it off.

You just have to read carefully and really try to understand what the question is saying. What you think it might mean at first could really be interpreted another way. I've heard it's good to put down a lot of "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" as opposed to selecting "neutral" too many times. Also, don't let the timer run out on too many questions. I ran out of time for only one and was okay, but I don't know how many is too much so I wouldn't risk just not putting down an answer.

[ashliejere]

Pure has good advice. I was nervous about it all day and put it off until about an hour ago. There really isn't anything to sic yourself out about. Take a deep breath, read the question and answer. If you answer it honestly and think of yourself in a work environment then you'll do fine.

[NicoleRose]

And what answers should you put? I'm going to have to take this and I'm a bit worried.My last job didnt have much of an interview lol
lol thats my problem too
my last job, i kind of just got put into b/c the other girl quit. it was convenient but there was no interview, application or anything.

[Pecobill]

lol thats my problem too
my last job, i kind of just got put into b/c the other girl quit. it was convenient but there was no interview, application or anything.

All I had to do was sign my life to the Army.

[NicoleRose]

All I had to do was sign my life to the Army.

hey well that gives you some good experience to answer the questions with it seems!

[ashliejere]

You guys will do fine. Just think of yourself in a work environment. Don't put too much pressure on yourself and you'll be fine.

[rachaelfig]

Borders and BooksAMillion both use this as well.

[Pecobill]

Oh yea I faxed my application today.Does anyone know about how long it will be until I hear back from them?

[ashliejere]

faxed? For disney? You weren't supposed to fax anything, I don't think.

[Pecobill]

faxed? For disney? You weren't supposed to fax anything, I don't think.

That's what they told me to do in the email they sent.

[ashliejere]

for college program?

[Pecobill]

for college program?

Oops my bad I faxed for the career start program.It's late and my brain aint at 100%.

[ashliejere]

ooh. I think CS is different.

[Pecobill]

ooh. I think CS is different.

Probably.Though we do get the web interview as well.Anyway sorry for the mix up maybe I should get some coffee lol.

[Lintasare]

The college program is selective in who they pick, I think now more than ever. When I did my CP back in 2002 all I had to do was go to the presentation on my campus, fill out the application and then do the group interview.

One important thing to remember is that Disney really takes a look at prior job history and the types of jobs you did. That is a key thing. The College Program is not meant to be a first time job. It is meant to hone skills you already have. For example prior to doing my CP I had worked at a pizza shop and in my university's residence halls. They really look for people with experience in the jobs they offer.

[sbsteel]

just wanted to say my dd got dissapointed again,last year she got the dreaded rejection letter and then last night got the results from the web based test that said she didnt meet their criteria .. i think disney will be losing alot of good candidates this way and the quaility of cp cast memebers better not go down because of this hiring process. i have alot of money invested in wdw and would hate to see that happen. I wrote an email to the recruiters but it probably wont matter, it just made me feel a little better,but my dd is still heartbroken and just a bit p*****..

You wrote an email to your daughter's prospective employer?! :eek:

I know you feel her pain and are upset for her, but as a HR person, let me tell you this is one of the worst things you could do for her. She's in college, about to graduate and enter the real working world - this is not the time or place for mom to step in.

[zurgswife]

You wrote an email to your daughter's prospective employer?! :eek:

I know you feel her pain and are upset for her, but as a HR person, let me tell you this is one of the worst things you could do for her. She's in college, about to graduate and enter the real working world - this is not the time or place for mom to step in.

Totally agree with this commet

[Simple_Motions]

Oops my bad I faxed for the career start program.It's late and my brain aint at 100%.


Im CareerStart too! I faxed in my application a few days ago and sent my application in the mail two days ago. Im guessing I wont hear back to maybe wednsday next week when it gets all the way down to florida (I live in MA :rotfl:) and btw, Love your Randy banner! :thumbsup2

[ashliejere]

Lintasare makes a good point. While there are internships at Disney and we all applied for the CP or CS. The CP especially can be looked at as an internship. You, as a student, are taking the semester off to get college credit and work for a company that you want to further yourself at. (I think majority of us have that plan or at least are hopeful about a plan like that). Well...that's an internship. And internships are not meant for first time workers. They are meant to hone your skills and get you close to the next step in your career ladder. The CP is different from an internship in many ways but it is basically an internship opportunity. Most people would not apply for an internship as their first job. Does that mean it can't be a first job for someone or hasn't been? No. Not at all. But, it does mean that it will be harder to get in. Case in point, 90 percent of the web based interview is about prior working situations.

[Toffy]

EDIT: retracting my original post :eeyore:

I also have to say the more people we can get complaining about the online interview the better haha :rotfl:

[Pecobill]

Im CareerStart too! I faxed in my application a few days ago and sent my application in the mail two days ago. Im guessing I wont hear back to maybe wednsday next week when it gets all the way down to florida (I live in MA :rotfl:) and btw, Love your Randy banner! :thumbsup2

You may hear from them sooner.They are changing the application so mailing it and the short response form and letter of recommendation are no longer required.

[sneekypeeks]

After taking the online interview, I did not consider it as bad as some of the ones i have taken in the past. 98% of it deals with customer service type questions, or roommate stuff, which is very important for the program. I just don't think it should be an end all for younger people who have never done it before. I posted some advice on how the online part, its a couple of posts down for anyone who has not done it yet.

[seamour]

I want to go to the presentation at a local school that's a month away from now and see how that is. I doubt they'll have any accommodations for me, but it can't HURT to go?

DEFINATELY go, I just heard from someone else on one of my other groups whose DD was refused the first time around but got in by going to a live recruiting session (or whatever they are called. So go go go and good luck! :yay:

[seamour]

maybe if everyone who agrees should email them with your opinions- i did. this was dd's last chance,she graduates after this semester and after she completes an internship,she was hoping to use the cp for her internship.

I am sorry to read your DD didn't get in. Tell her to go to any local in person recruitments. You just never know.

[seamour]

Just picture yourself in a work environment and imagine what kind of employees they would want. Don't picture yourself in a school environment because school and work are two completely different situations. You have to be consistent with your answers- they'll ask you a couple of questions multiple ways. For example "Are you a reliable person?" and then 10 questions later: "Can your co-workers depend on you?" Make sure you're always putting the same answer. Sometimes they'll switch questions around to try to trick you or throw in one word that throws it off.

You just have to read carefully and really try to understand what the question is saying. What you think it might mean at first could really be interpreted another way. I've heard it's good to put down a lot of "strongly agree" or "strongly disagree" as opposed to selecting "neutral" too many times. Also, don't let the timer run out on too many questions. I ran out of time for only one and was okay, but I don't know how many is too much so I wouldn't risk just not putting down an answer.

took on for TWA years ago. Didn't pass, later after they dropped the test I got hired. LOL!

[AndyCP]

just wanted to say my dd got dissapointed again,last year she got the dreaded rejection letter and then last night got the results from the web based test that said she didnt meet their criteria .. i think disney will be losing alot of good candidates this way and the quaility of cp cast memebers better not go down because of this hiring process. i have alot of money invested in wdw and would hate to see that happen. I wrote an email to the recruiters but it probably wont matter, it just made me feel a little better,but my dd is still heartbroken and just a bit p*****..

Like others have said... Not to sound rude but if your daughter is about to graduate college why are you emailing her potential employers? If I was any kind of recruiting having a mom of a 20-something email me complaining about their daughter would turn me off on the person more. Disney is looking for strong personalities who can make decisions and live on their own and by having mommy email to complain won't give your daughter or your argument any positive light. How is Disney losing out? Disney wants people who they know are ok with working away from home, long hours, living on their own, etc and you complaining for your adult daughter kinda reaffirms what Disney probably found out via the quiz maybe she isn't ready to leave home.

Again I don't mean to sound rude but next time maybe have your daughter follow up on her own - Disney or any company for that matter - might be willing to evaluate the situation but I doubt any company would if the candidates mom complains.

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[luciousliv1108]

Like others have said... Not to sound rude but if your daughter is about to graduate college why are you emailing her potential employers? If I was any kind of recruiting having a mom of a 20-something email me complaining about their daughter would turn me off on the person more. Disney is looking for strong personalities who can make decisions and live on their own and by having mommy email to complain won't give your daughter or your argument any positive light. How is Disney losing out? Disney wants people who they know are ok with working away from home, long hours, living on their own, etc and you complaining for your adult daughter kinda reaffirms what Disney probably found out via the quiz maybe she isn't ready to leave home.

Again I don't mean to sound rude but next time maybe have your daughter follow up on her own - Disney or any company for that matter - might be willing to evaluate the situation but I doubt any company would if the candidates mom complains.

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ok so i never told her to email them and they are not my potential employer because im not going to try to apply again... all she told me was to call them and find out what i answered wrong and i wouldnt so she emailed them... i dont care if she emailed them yes i maybe a mommys little girl but i love my mom so stop dissing her on here and by the way leaving home for that long aint a problem with me... because i wanna get out there and live on my own i just cant do it around here because i dont have the money..... but its probably better off i didnt get accepted into the program because getting in and then seeing how things run would deffinately ruin the magic for me.... and my mom was right her and my dad have alot of money invested into wdw and seeing that disney does these web based interviews and phone interviews well heck anyone could be doing these interviews..... say for instance if i did get the phone interview how do they know those were MY answers and not somebody else sitting there answering the questions and when they call how do they know its ME on the other end and not someone with more expierence pretending to be me? plus they dont even know what the person they're hiring looks like.... they possibly could not meet disney standards on appearances...they dont know the REAL you until the first meeting of you when you're already down there.....oh and for all you other college program hopefuls who got rejected.... dont give up if ur still in school... i just gotta get back into reality and accept im not gonna get in because the fact im graduating and im gonna get a great internship around here in a travel agency or hotel.... so good luck.... and god bless u all....

[khancock]

i wish they woudlve like tested it before doing it like this.

How do you know that they didn't?

I seriously doubt that they would start a new process like this without gathering tons of data to set benchmarks.

[sneekypeeks]

"i just gotta get back into reality and accept im not gonna get in because the fact im graduating and im gonna get a great internship around here in a travel agency or hotel.... so good luck.... and god bless u all.... "

Check the professional internships. I am pretty sure getting rejected for the CP doesn't automatically keep you from the PI's. Its another hope at least :confused3

[ashliejere]

How do you know that they didn't?

I seriously doubt that they would start a new process like this without gathering tons of data to set benchmarks.


They have. Disneyland has been using these tests for a long time now. Maybe after being let down by CPers WDW saw that DL, even though selective, had a better crop of employees. I'm not saying that everyone who applys to WDW isn't a good employee but a lot of students aren't committed to the program. There was even a letter asking CPers to stay committed to what they say they will follow through with. So, perhaps WDW is using the new test to weed out those who aren't going to be committed and keep those that will be. Now, that doesn't mean that they will hit the mark every time. Will they pass on someone who would be committed but just mis-answered the questionnaire. Yeah, I'm sure they will. Especially on the first time the test is used. But, I think the test is WDW way of trying to become more selective and ensure getting the best possible employees.

Olivia, the best piece of advice I can give you is this: If it isn't this, it's something else. I ended falling into all of the places I was supposed to be at. Example: I was set on being a business major for years. I was determined to do anything other than English. I had this crazy idea that it was a useless degree. So, I dug myself into a hole and my classes started to destroy my GPA. I wasn't in the right place for me, even though I wanted it to be. So, to lift my GPA I took a writing class and fell in love with it. That class completely changed my major, my thought-out career path and my work. I ended up with an English degree and I can make that degree work to my benefit. This may have been what you wanted and what you were sure about but maybe there's something else your supposed to be doing right now. Look around you and see what you can make work for your benefit. Stay at school and take the classes you've always wanted to take but didn't. See where that leads you. Take a job around you and see where that leads you. I believe that everything happens for a reason and if you didn't get in this time...possibly there is a PI waiting for you or another way to get into the Disney Company or possibly right now just isn't the time for you to do this. Case in point, I'll give one more example of how things just fell together when they were supposed to: I was supposed to be moving to Columbus with friends and starting a job with a brand management team there. However, things didn't come through there and I ended up looking for other opportunities and I found a Disney internship in publishing listed on a website that I've never been to and can't find again. How I stumbled there, I don't know. But, that drew me in and I'm applying here now. I was devastated when my new job and moving opportunity didn't work out. But you know what? Now, I'm extremely happy they did. It just wasn't the time for me to take on a new job and location. B/c I was meant to be doing something else. So, keep that in mind. If it's not this, it's something else. Apply again if you feel like it's the right thing for you to do. But in the mean time, find the things around you that inspire you and see how you can work those things into your life. It may take you somewhere unexpected.

[khancock]

They have. Disneyland has been using these tests for a long time now.

They wouldn't have just used disneyland's data, though. they would have gathered data from WDW too. point being that they didn't just decide last week to make this change which is what the post that I responded to implied.

im not a fan of profiling in general. wasn't a fan of disneyland doing this. not a fan of wdw doing it.

i worked with people who were awful backstage, but onstage, you couldn't believe how over the top pixie dusted they were. magical moments right and left. would they have made it through the profile? probably not. but they were great with the guests.

[MariDisney]

You wrote an email to your daughter's prospective employer?! :eek:

I know you feel her pain and are upset for her, but as a HR person, let me tell you this is one of the worst things you could do for her. She's in college, about to graduate and enter the real working world - this is not the time or place for mom to step in.


I lurk around the college boards because I think the CP is interesting, and I'm sorry I missed it if it even existed all those years ago.

I wanted to ego what this PP said. I hire people to work with children with special needs. Probably 2/3 of the folks who work with me are college students or recent graduates. The minute I hear from a parent that person is immediately taken out of the "call this one back if something more appropriate comes up" pile. When I interview if I think someone is good but not right for a particular position, I definitely keep the resume and my notes so I can contact them if something more suitable comes up. If a parent calls or emails me, I know the prospective employee isn't ready for the real world and all the responsibility that comes with it. The same goes if a parent "calls out" one of my people. I will usually let it go one time with a serious discussion about adult responsibilities, etc.

Mom, I know your heart is broken for your girl. I can't imagine when my DD, now 9, doesn't get something she really wants and would probably be awesome at. It will be hard not to intervene, I'm sure. But, I know it will be the best thing for her in the long run.

[BelleWDW]

.... and my mom was right her and my dad have alot of money invested into wdw and seeing that disney does these web based interviews and phone interviews well heck anyone could be doing these interviews..... say for instance if i did get the phone interview how do they know those were MY answers and not somebody else sitting there answering the questions and when they call how do they know its ME on the other end and not someone with more expierence pretending to be me? ....


A little hint-it is much easier to read long posts with several paragraphs and not a bunch of run on sentances:)


I am curious about the large amount of money invested in WDW.
Do you mean several trips, DVC, own Disney stock etc?

I would guess most of the posters on the DIS have spent that much money on WDW.:confused3

[beepbeepimajeep]

ok so i never told her to email them and they are not my potential employer because im not going to try to apply again... all she told me was to call them and find out what i answered wrong and i wouldnt so she emailed them... i dont care if she emailed them yes i maybe a mommys little girl but i love my mom so stop dissing her on here and by the way leaving home for that long aint a problem with me... because i wanna get out there and live on my own i just cant do it around here because i dont have the money..... but its probably better off i didnt get accepted into the program because getting in and then seeing how things run would deffinately ruin the magic for me.... and my mom was right her and my dad have alot of money invested into wdw and seeing that disney does these web based interviews and phone interviews well heck anyone could be doing these interviews..... say for instance if i did get the phone interview how do they know those were MY answers and not somebody else sitting there answering the questions and when they call how do they know its ME on the other end and not someone with more expierence pretending to be me? plus they dont even know what the person they're hiring looks like.... they possibly could not meet disney standards on appearances...they dont know the REAL you until the first meeting of you when you're already down there.....oh and for all you other college program hopefuls who got rejected.... dont give up if ur still in school... i just gotta get back into reality and accept im not gonna get in because the fact im graduating and im gonna get a great internship around here in a travel agency or hotel.... so good luck.... and god bless u all....

It's perfectly acceptable to use just one period to end one of your "sentences".

[ashliejere]

i worked with people who were awful backstage, but onstage, you couldn't believe how over the top pixie dusted they were. magical moments right and left. would they have made it through the profile? probably not. but they were great with the guests.

Why wouldn't they have passed the test? Onstage they had magical moments right and left. They were great with the guests. That's what they were hired to do. Sounds like, while not awesome people, they were pretty decent employees.

[khancock]

Why wouldn't they have passed the test? Onstage they had magical moments right and left. They were great with the guests. That's what they were hired to do. Sounds like, while not awesome people, they were pretty decent employees.

The Gallup "interview" is an personality profile. From what I can gather and from my experience going through DL's awhile back, it is along the same lines as Myers-Briggs and a slew of other personality profiles. just customized to wdw and/or dl. It has very little to do with situational exercises. nothing to do with one on one interaction with others. That isn't something that can be measured with strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree questions. People can have different personas based on their environments. If measured only on their guest interaction abilities, probably. But measured with working with others/as a team, no way they would pass.

[jazstar87]

just wanted to say my dd got dissapointed again,last year she got the dreaded rejection letter and then last night got the results from the web based test that said she didnt meet their criteria .. i think disney will be losing alot of good candidates this way and the quaility of cp cast memebers better not go down because of this hiring process. i have alot of money invested in wdw and would hate to see that happen. I wrote an email to the recruiters but it probably wont matter, it just made me feel a little better,but my dd is still heartbroken and just a bit p*****..

I have a question... Did your daughter call to see why she was rejected? they give a number on there.

I am also a little concern why your daughter didn't write the email... I have been rejected twice before, the second time, I got a little more pushy calling and emailing the recruiter why I was pending, and later rejected... and the more I pushed and sent, the better answers I got why, and how I can improve. I was told that Disney needs to be pushed sometimes... and it seems to be working...

Also, maybe she could apply to the Disneyland CP, you can apply to both in the same recruiting season.

[hyperflame]

ok so i never told her to email them and they are not my potential employer because im not going to try to apply again... all she told me was to call them and find out what i answered wrong and i wouldnt so she emailed them... i dont care if she emailed them yes i maybe a mommys little girl but i love my mom so stop dissing her on here and by the way leaving home for that long aint a problem with me... because i wanna get out there and live on my own i just cant do it around here because i dont have the money..... but its probably better off i didnt get accepted into the program because getting in and then seeing how things run would deffinately ruin the magic for me.... and my mom was right her and my dad have alot of money invested into wdw and seeing that disney does these web based interviews and phone interviews well heck anyone could be doing these interviews..... say for instance if i did get the phone interview how do they know those were MY answers and not somebody else sitting there answering the questions and when they call how do they know its ME on the other end and not someone with more expierence pretending to be me? plus they dont even know what the person they're hiring looks like.... they possibly could not meet disney standards on appearances...they dont know the REAL you until the first meeting of you when you're already down there.....oh and for all you other college program hopefuls who got rejected.... dont give up if ur still in school... i just gotta get back into reality and accept im not gonna get in because the fact im graduating and im gonna get a great internship around here in a travel agency or hotel.... so good luck.... and god bless u all....

It's perfectly acceptable to use just one period to end one of your "sentences".



Plus, proper capitalization and punctuation marks would help too. I'm not usually a jerk about grammar, but that was nigh-unreadable.

[luciousliv1108]

[RIGHT]



Plus, proper capitalization and punctuation marks would help too. I'm not usually a jerk about grammar, but that was nigh-unreadable.


its a disboard i aint gotta use proper english! and plus it was 2am my time sorry for being a little tired but angry and upset

[dipin]

its a disboard i aint gotta use proper english! and plus it was 2am my time sorry for being a little tired but angry and upset

Yes, it is a disboard. And many have found your post to be unreadable even for a disboard post. I don't say this to pile on or be nasty, but first impressions matter. And online, be it a disboard, be it an interview for a job, how we write plays a huge role in how people perceive us. Just something to keep in mind.

[korzmom]

The number 1 reason I emailed the recruiting department instead of my daughter was because she didnt care anymore,she just wanted to forget it but i knew it would bother me if i didnt.Just for the piece of mind i gave my opinionatleast on the new system. My dd is perfectly cappable of taking care of herself and cappable of writing properly, she is an A student. I know some people like proper grammar and like to nitpic about run on sentences but when I'm on the computer i just ramble with my fingers too. I think everyone should stick to the subject and discuss the subject,which was whether or not the new system is right or not and if you dissagree with it to let disney know how you feel.Thanks for all your input and I do agree that i shouldnt have gotten involved,you live and learn.

[dipin]

Disney is a private business, and the goal of their hiring practices is to hire whoever they deem to be the best candidate. However friends or relatives of candidates feel about the selection process is irrelevant to them. In fact, I can guarantee that no business is going to change their practices based on the complaints of the relatives of rejected candidates.
As many people have pointed out, receiving a letter from a candidate's mother really hurts one's chances. That goes double when that letter is actually complaining about their hiring procedures.

[jazstar87]

Well this system isn't new, Disneyland CP has been doing this for a few years now which has been said before. I really think Disney is trying to cut back. I always am hearing about disney layoffs and such, plus the competition for CP/CS has been very high these last couple of recruiting seasons. I don't think this will change, Disney is very stubborn about changes. If it's been cutting down the number of interviews for DLCP, then maybe they are thinking it will help with the WDWCP... This sucks, yes it basically does, but we really can't do anything about it. If your daughter gets more interested in it for next time, I would tell her to research in it more... Join the group on facebook, read these boards, join the cp chat on aim, watch vlogs on youtube... They will help a lot, not only help get more excited about it, but they are very informational. To tell what other people did to prepare for this interview.

[BelleWDW]

The number 1 reason I emailed the recruiting department instead of my daughter was because she didnt care anymore,she just wanted to forget it but i knew it would bother me if i didnt.Just for the piece of mind i gave my opinionatleast on the new system. .


As others have pointed out, once your child becomes an adult, parents need to "butt out" of their lives, especially involving employment.


Still waiting on an answer about the large "Investment" the OP has in Disney.:confused:

[korzmom]

how do you go about getting this thread closed? i would like it to be closed before i say something that might get me points!

[Traveliz]

how do you go about getting this thread closed? i would like it to be closed before i say something that might get me points!

I have noticed asking for a thread to be closed when nothing point worthy or personal has been posted is just the surest way for a thread to stay open and generate even more talk.

If you don't post (and your daughter doesn't post) it will likely die a natural death or turn into a thread where posters talk about the "new" (at least to WDW) profile poll.

To avoid saying something that might get you in trouble -- just don't open the thread.

Liz

[krisTXyn]

i have to completely agree with everyone on here about the emailing and such. i work closely with my managers, i help out the in the hiring process also. recently we had an employee get written up at work, and then call 2 hours later and quit on the spot!

1) he can no longer put us a reference, simply because there was no 2 weeks put in,
2) later on after he quit, our general manager got a call from his mother (keep in mind he is 20) complaining to our manager about why he got written up, and that what WE did was wrong.

our boss was fuming after that.
please, if you're over 18, DON'T let/tell your parents to contact your employer, or potiential employer. the fact is, most employer's will tell you on the spot that "i cannot discuss the issues or facts about one of my team members to anyone else that doesn't have anything to do with this company"
if they are over 18, it doesn't matter if they are your CHILD, the employer (or potiential employer) can't, and shouldn't talk about them to you.

i'm sorry your DD got rejected, but like others have said, "if its not meant to be, it's not meant to be" for all we know your DD could get some amazing job offer that she wouldn't have normally gotten if she was in florida participating in the DCP.
i really am sorry that she didn't get in, and i know it can be very dissapointing, esp. when parents will always think of their child as "my little baby (girl/boy)" but once they hit 18, they are now an "adult" by everyone's standard, so they should try and start to handle things on their own.

i'm not trying to sound rude, i'm just giving some advice,

-kristyn

[disaddiction828]

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[korzmom]

gees people, i already agreed that i shouldnt have done that,you all dont have to be so rude. nobody has the right to tell me to BUTT OUT of my daughters life..i will now ignore this thread because you're all making me feel like a horrible parent- that subject is on another part of this board,maybe i'll go check out all the other bad parents stories.good bye.

[Toffy]

Don't feel bad korzmom, people have a tendancy to not read replys before they say things... hang in there :thumbsup2

[dnoyes]

Don't feel bad korzmom, people have a tendancy to not read replys before they say things... hang in there :thumbsup2

Very true.

I think 95% of us can understand what it feels like to see one of our children hurting. But it's the other 5% that like to give advice to strangers on a message board that blow my mind. :lmao:

[tkgdisney]

I saw the test as my son took it - it was not that different than most interviews - it was asking for his work experiences and the questions I saw were just normal questions. He did the interview, had an audition and is now on his internship - he loves it! Some of the CPs that started with him are already gone, so the test and interview are not perfect, but they are probably working on improving the system - they waste so much time and money on these students that do not make it.

I am sure it would be hard for my child to be rejected and I understand wanting to do something about it - I can only imagine how hard it is to stand back and let them deal with it alone. I understand how helpful it would be to know what the issue was - she should try to get in the post graduate program after graduation. The information you have gained could help her, but the call may be an issue.

Good luck to both of you.

[luciousliv1108]

Don't feel bad korzmom, people have a tendancy to not read replys before they say things... hang in there :thumbsup2

your one the only ones that understand where me and my mom are coming from. Thank you for being supportive! Hope you get the purple folder cause you would deserve it!:)

[moviekid21]

I think this 'new' test is great.
It's really not much more than a personality test about how you interact with coworkers, and guests. As well as what type of worker you are when it comes to working on your own. If it was automatically saying after this portion of the application that you weren't eligible, it would have to do with your responses (which is based on you and not really something that can be cheated on.) and that Disney's set way of CM standards and you unfortunately don't match.

[luciousliv1108]

I think this 'new' test is great.
It's really not much more than a personality test about how you interact with coworkers, and guests. As well as what type of worker you are when it comes to working on your own. If it was automatically saying after this portion of the application that you weren't eligible, it would have to do with your responses (which is based on you and not really something that can be cheated on.) and that Disney's set way of CM standards and you unfortunately don't match.



see but the thing is i have really good work ethic i work great by myself and with a group... any of my 5 or so managers would tell you this too... im always getting great remarks from customers and co-workers... the test also asked alot of questions about roommate situations. well i dont know how they wanted me to answr that but i said i perfer a roommate that is not messy because i like to keep my room situated.. and i couldnt live in a messy house you knwo what im saying. i dont know if that what i di wrong or not because i also didnt have any neutral answers they were mostly strongly agree or agree or strong disagree... i dont know tho oh well :confused3

[MariDisney]

I'd be really wondering too about why I didn't get in. Although I did post earlier about my experience with people who work for me having their parents contact me, I am curious if your mom got an answer to her email.

Also, did you ever say where your parents were invested in Disney? I was just wondering if it's DVC or what.

Hope things are looking up for you as you take the next step, whatever it may be.

[tiggspring]

OP as a Mom I feel for you but I agree with SBSTEEL if she had a chance in the future you just blew it.

My husband used to be a supervisior of many employees in a mental health clinic. Since they work with people in need all day and the pay isn't great they tend to be more flexable with their employees. My husband had a mom who every time her DD had any kind of bad day he got a call:scared1:. Employers want people who are independant and can speak up if there is a problem. Mom's calling is a BIG warning sign to stay away. I know you ment well but I wouldn't do it again even if it did make you feel better.

[Toffy]

OK Ladies and Gentlemen,

korzmom has GOT THE POINT. We now have PAGES of threads on the subject. In the words of a hero of mine, before you judge em, try to love em, and dang, please review a thread before you take part in a bash fest. I'm deleting my first post because I didn't realize just how crazily out of hand this was gonna get :guilty:

I know she's a Steelers fan but come on! :lmao: jk

[tiggspring]

Olivia,

My degree is in Psychology and my husband like I said in a precious post was a manager for many years. He has dwegrees in Psych, Business and Social work. I think have an idea what they are looking for.

For example the roommate question you mentioned. They wanted to know can you be flexible enough to handle someone who is different from you. In roommate situations you will meet people of different backgrounds, faiths, sleeping habits and neatness. In that type of setting you need to be flexible enough to live with the majority of CM. If neatness is a must than you have just eliminated about half of the 18-25 year olds I have known as potential roommates. This would be a problem for Disney and they would assume this lack of flexibility is true in every aspect of your life.

It is the downfall of these kinds of tests as apposed to interviews. you have no way to explain your answer. You may have thought they want a neat hard working CM. What they want most is a team player.

Basically what they want is someone who can get along with 90% of the people they meet (not like.. just get along) someone who can follow orders with a smile but has enough self respect and confidence to report a problem and have a solution to said problem when they are asked.

If you get to take the test again ask yourself on each question what would a team player do. What would someone who had to consider the customer is always right do? If there is a problem how could you say that so that it is constructive instead of a complaint?

Hope this helps a little. Don't give up on your dream just yet if you have one more chance you have one more chance to succeed, Also the next time you are at Disney ask as many CM's as you can what they did and what was there experience with the tests. They are the key to Disney's true motives.
Sending Pixi dust to you and your mompixiedust:

[moviekid21]

Olivia,

My degree is in Psychology and my husband like I said in a precious post was a manager for many years. He has dwegrees in Psych, Business and Social work. I think have an idea what they are looking for.

For example the roommate question you mentioned. They wanted to know can you be flexible enough to handle someone who is different from you. In roommate situations you will meet people of different backgrounds, faiths, sleeping habits and neatness. In that type of setting you need to be flexible enough to live with the majority of CM. If neatness is a must than you have just eliminated about half of the 18-25 year olds I have known as potential roommates. This would be a problem for Disney and they would assume this lack of flexibility is true in every aspect of your life.

It is the downfall of these kinds of tests as apposed to interviews. you have no way to explain your answer. You may have thought they want a neat hard working CM. What they want most is a team player.

Basically what they want is someone who can get along with 90% of the people they meet (not like.. just get along) someone who can follow orders with a smile but has enough self respect and confidence to report a problem and have a solution to said problem when they are asked.

If you get to take the test again ask yourself on each question what would a team player do. What would someone who had to consider the customer is always right do? If there is a problem how could you say that so that it is constructive instead of a complaint?

Hope this helps a little. Don't give up on your dream just yet if you have one more chance you have one more chance to succeed, Also the next time you are at Disney ask as many CM's as you can what they did and what was there experience with the tests. They are the key to Disney's true motives.
Sending Pixi dust to you and your mompixiedust:

:worship::worship::worship:

Great Answer!!! I totally agree.

[Cinderella89]

I have a question for the daughter who's dis name I forgot to write down. But have you ever considered doing a Professional internship? Or considered looking into it? I believe the only difference is you have to supply your own apartment and they are decent in Orlando. I have quite a few friends who have gone from CP to PI this year and they didn't have a problem. And there is one girl that I worked with who went from CP to Full timer, lives on her own, and her apartment is quite nice and cheap. A lot of complexes offer Cast Discounts on their apartments.