Disney World Dining Booking Window Moves to 180 Days

[Dizzy over Disney]

Disney World Dining Booking Window Moves to 180 Days

Posted: 07 Aug 2009 05:05 PM PDT

Starting October 27, 2009, Walt Disney World will move the booking window for Advanced Dining Reservations to 180 days, from the current 90 days. Walt Disney World resort guests will be able to book all dining reservations 180 days in advance of the day they check in, up to 10 days at a time. Non-Disney World Resort guest can make dining reservations 180 days in advance of their dining date.

Currently, some popular restaurants such as Le Cellier and Cinderella’s Royal Table are nearly impossible to find, even calling first thing 90 days in advance. This move should allow those who plan well in advance plenty of opportunity to book the reservations they want.

Starting on October 27, 2009, guests will be able to book dining reservations up until April 25, 2010.

Rumor is that at the time of the change, all dining reservations will require a credit card guarantee. No official announcement has been made, I will update this post if/when that change is announced.

[Robo]

Posted: 07 Aug 2009 05:05 PM PDT



Posted by WHOM?

[Swimmergirl]

I guess that's good for people who love advance planning, but I don't see it being that helpful unless they combine it with releasing the park hours further in advance too. It's very frustrating to try to plan ADR's when they either haven't put out hours or they keep changing them!

[bradk]

it comes from some site called mousemisers.com. some site that 'blogs' discounts. the whois is blocked but the main commenter appears to be named Keith, the same guy who registered all of the 'sponsors' and 'friends' of the site, such as mymickeycard.com and another travel agency.

when i did a search earlier on this, they seemed to be the only one talking about it.

[MissMet]

:rotfl:

Around & around we go.

[rt2dz]

I know the move back to 180 days have been floating around the 'net the past few weeks, but I'm not so sure about the credit card required reservations. Can you imagine having to pay for every meal in advance--6 months in advance? Especially when you could add the dining plan 72 hours in advance or get a TiW card that will give you 20% off. I know I don't get our TiW card until the last minute. It's a pain when you need to have your meal price refigured.

[RMulieri]

Any other word on this?

[Robo]

I don't see it being that helpful unless they combine it with releasing the park hours further in advance too.

Hmmmmm.


It's very frustrating to try to plan ADR's when they either haven't put out hours or they keep changing them!

If you think they change things after being posted 90 days out, you should experience the joy of the 6-months-in-advance calendars.

;)


Many of us here "remember the moments."

[Lynn5700]

Shut up lol. Well I hope it is true. I used to be a person who calls on the 180 day mark LOL!!! But I do not have any problems with the 90 day mark. I was able to get what I wanted when I used the 90 day window.

[Lynn5700]

HAHA does this mean park hours will go back to 180 days? lol

[MissMet]

I know the move back to 180 days have been floating around the 'net the past few weeks, but I'm not so sure about the credit card required reservations. Can you imagine having to pay for every meal in advance--6 months in advance? Especially when you could add the dining plan 72 hours in advance or get a TiW card that will give you 20% off. I know I don't get our TiW card until the last minute. It's a pain when you need to have your meal price refigured.
Your cc wouldn't be charged unless you didn't show... like they already do with Akershus, the dinner shows, etc.

I wish they'd do that, it would free up a lot of the double adrs people book & the no shows. Maybe some of us would be able to get our adrs we want.

[The Hendies]

popcorn:::drinking1

[Broncobilly83]

Ok, this is bogus since my 90 day window starts 09/27/09, and I am ready to go now with the reservations!

[Robo]

HAHA does this mean park hours will go back to 180 days? lol

That is, of course, the biggest "tell" that this may be a BOGUS announcement.

They'd need to post 3-4 months on the calendar, (basically) all at once
near the late October/early November newly announced ADR date.

They can't seem to get the one month posted on time to hit the 90 day mark NOW.

Stay tuned.

[Broncobilly83]

I know the move back to 180 days have been floating around the 'net the past few weeks, but I'm not so sure about the credit card required reservations. Can you imagine having to pay for every meal in advance--6 months in advance? Especially when you could add the dining plan 72 hours in advance or get a TiW card that will give you 20% off. I know I don't get our TiW card until the last minute. It's a pain when you need to have your meal price refigured.

Also, what if you have the Dining Plan? Do you still need to give a credit card?

[PrincessTiffany]

Also, what if you have the Dining Plan? Do you still need to give a credit card?
You do currently. We always get the dining plan, but you still have to put a credit card hold on some reservations like CRT, Akershus and Hoopty-Do. They will charge your card if you don't show up for these reservations, dining plan or not.

[PrincessTiffany]

I very much preferred having the calendar and ADRs 180 days out, but I will be surprised if this rumor is true.

[Lynn5700]

That is, of course, the biggest "tell" that this may be a BOGUS announcement.

They'd need to post 3-4 months on the calendar, (basically) all at once
near the late October/early November newly announced ADR date.

They can't seem to get the one month posted on time to hit the 90 day mark NOW.

Stay tuned.

So true, lol! These rumors are overwhelming. Now there is this on top of the "No appetizer rumor" with the Deluxe DDP. Disneyworld.com says that the apps are still on there, but others say it's not (TA websites)

[rt2dz]

Your cc wouldn't be charged unless you didn't show... like they already do with Akershus, the dinner shows, etc.

I wish they'd do that, it would free up a lot of the double adrs people book & the no shows. Maybe some of us would be able to get our adrs we want.

It used to be they didn't charge unless you no-showed/cancelled in under 48 hours. But, the last few of years, they have charged the full price on any of the dinner shows and Cinderella's Royal Table when you book, it is refundable, but... Couldn't speak for Akershus, as we've never been, but I'm assuming it isn't just one meal they don't charge for. If you book online, by the time it's confirmed, they have the charge on your credit card.

Also, what if you have the Dining Plan? Do you still need to give a credit card?

If you haven't added it yet, yes. Not sure if you book your ADRs with the dining plan and then decide to go to a room-only reservation how that would happen. Theoretically, it shouldn't cancel your ADR, but then you no longer have payment. We don't get the dining plan because it doesn't fit our style well, so I don't know a lot about it.

[MissMet]

It used to be they didn't charge unless you no-showed/cancelled in under 48 hours. But, the last couple of years, they have charged the full price on any of the dinner shows and Cinderella's Royal Table. Couldn't speak for Akershus, as we've never been, but I'm assuming it isn't just one meal they don't charge for. If you book online, by the time it's confirmed, they have the charge on your credit card.



If you haven't added it yet, yes. Not sure if you book your ADRs with the dining plan and then decide to go to a room-only reservation how that would happen. Theoretically, it shouldn't cancel your ADR, but then you no longer have payment. We don't get the dining plan because it doesn't fit our style well, so I don't know a lot about it.
No, they don't charge for akershus I have a resi for Oct & no charge. I've also never been charged for CRT ahead, because it was not a set amount, so that's new. As for the dinner shows, those I have been charged at the time of booking.

[rt2dz]

No, they don't charge for akershus I have a resi for Oct & no charge. I've also never been charged for CRT ahead, because it was not a set amount, so that's new. As for the dinner shows, those I have been charged at the time of booking.

When was the last time you were at CRT? It's been a set amount for quite some time, at least two years.

From All Ears: Cinderella's Royal Table Dinner is a fixed-price meal hosted by the Fairy Godmother, who will lead the observance of special occasions like birthdays and anniversaries.

Adults $57.19
Children 3-9 $34.78
Price includes tax and gratuity


Oh well. If you haven't been charged in advance, that's good for you, I guess. Not that it really matters.

I don't know anything about Ashkerus. I just assumed that all meals they took a cc for was instant charge now. If it's not, then I guess it's fine *IF* this rumor is true that they start taking them for all meals. I just feel bad for those that don't have cc.

[MissMet]

When was the last time you were at CRT? It's been a set amount for quite some time, at least two years.

From All Ears: Cinderella's Royal Table Dinner is a fixed-price meal hosted by the Fairy Godmother, who will lead the observance of special occasions like birthdays and anniversaries.

Adults $57.19
Children 3-9 $34.78
Price includes tax and gratuity


Oh well. If you haven't been charged in advance, that's good for you, I guess. Not that it really matters.

I don't know anything about Ashkerus. I just assumed that all meals the took a cc for was instant charge now. If it's not, then I guess it's fine *IF* this rumor is true that they start taking them for all meals. I just feel bad for those that don't have cc.
It was quite a few years ago... maybe in '01??? I see they've changed things. :)

I'm not a CRT fan at all. I think it not worth it unless your travel party includes children, which mine does not. :)

[Broncobilly83]

If you haven't added it yet, yes. Not sure if you book your ADRs with the dining plan and then decide to go to a room-only reservation how that would happen. Theoretically, it shouldn't cancel your ADR, but then you no longer have payment. We don't get the dining plan because it doesn't fit our style well, so I don't know a lot about it.

Ok, you lost me somewhere. I have the dining plan. So outside of the "special" restaurants, why would I need a credit card to ADR say for Rose & Crown, etc, i.e. regular restaurants?

[BostonRob]

No, they don't charge for akershus I have a resi for Oct & no charge. I've also never been charged for CRT ahead, because it was not a set amount, so that's new. As for the dinner shows, those I have been charged at the time of booking.

I was asked for a cc number when I booked the akershus princess breakfast and was told if I no-showed, I'd be charged like $10 per person or something.

[PrincessTiffany]

Ok, you lost me somewhere. I have the dining plan. So outside of the "special" restaurants, why would I need a credit card to ADR say for Rose & Crown, etc, i.e. regular restaurants?
Currently you don't. The speculation is, that if Disney starts requiring CC holds at all table service restaurants that it will cut down on double bookings and no-shows.

[disneygirlinnj]

Oh I SO hope they need a cc to reserve EVERY ADR. You'll see how quickly ADR slots open up. :) I'm all for it and will willingly hand over my cc# every time they ask.

[Hyonlyf]

Oh I SO hope they need a cc to reserve EVERY ADR. You'll see how quickly ADR slots open up. :) I'm all for it and will willingly hand over my cc# every time they ask.


Me too!

[Kat73]

Not to be dumb but what financial gain would it serve Disney to do this? I can't see where it would be helpful to them.. :confused3

[bradk]

currently dinner shows (which includes CRT) require payment in full at time of booking unless on the DDP, in which the card is required to secure the booking.

some locations such as akershus, california grill, V&A and experiences such as BBB require a credit card to secure the booking and will charge a per person penalty in case of no-shows.

[Robo]

Not to be dumb but what financial gain would it serve Disney to do this? I can't see where it would be helpful to them.. :confused3

Do what?

[maddiesmom0116]

Not to be dumb but what financial gain would it serve Disney to do this? I can't see where it would be helpful to them.. :confused3

With the CC requirement it will cut down on all the no shows for ADR's. No shows do cost them as they are not filling the seats, many of us don't even try to get in on a walk up so they may not fill them that way.

[Cheshire Figment]

This is one person posting. If you read his site, you will find that he is in UTAH! I wonder how he has managed to hear something that nobody else, including people who work at WDW, have heard.

At best this belongs in the Rumors and News Forum, not this one.

[Robo]

This is one person posting. If you read his site, you will find that he is in UTAH! I wonder how he has managed to hear something that nobody else, including people who work at WDW, have heard.

At best this belongs in the Rumors and News Forum, not this one.

I figured it would have been magically transported over to "Rumors & News" after about 10 minutes, myself! ;)

[n2mm]

Also, what if you have the Dining Plan? Do you still need to give a credit card?

Yes, I had the dining plan in May and booked the Norway dinner for my granddaughter and family and had to put up the credit card for the no show. It is $10 per person on the reservation if there's a no show. The credit card is not for the meal, it's for the penalty of not showing up for your ADR.

[Brian_WDW74]

I figured it would have been magically transported over to "Rumors & News" after about 10 minutes, myself! ;)

Hey, it's Saturday. I'm a little slow today. ;)

I've moved this thread to the Rumors and News board. :)

[kmk1180]

Your cc wouldn't be charged unless you didn't show... like they already do with Akershus, the dinner shows, etc.

I wish they'd do that, it would free up a lot of the double adrs people book & the no shows. Maybe some of us would be able to get our adrs we want.

how do you figure?
The way I see it, the same people how double book at 90 days will now double book 180 days.
I don't do it but it's not like it's hard thing to do and get away with.
It's not like they check id's or have to stay at a resort or have the dining plan to make an ADR's.
Untill they take a cc and charge for late cancels or no shows, people will still double book.
(maybe they could charge, say $10, for ADR, then when you show up $10 is credited off your bill.)
Till it costs double bookers money, they will do it. Even then some still will.

[skier_pete]

I am all for all of this...move the ADRs back to 180 days...though it seems unlikely to happen this soon.

I also am fine with a CC hold for all ADRs, as long as you are still allowed a reasonable time (say 24 hours) to cancel. I think it is extremely rude to make an ADR and not use it. (I don't have a problem with booking a few extra ADRs, as long as they are cancelled ahead of time.)

SkierPete

[queenie82]

I'm all for a move back to 180days....although even if it were true it won't help with this December. :(

The only thing with taking a cc and charging for no shows is that there are times when you can be delayed or unable to come through no fault of your own (ie Disney transport stuffs up) or something happens like an illness etc.
For this reason we will make a couple extra ADRs for ones we REALLY want to do incase I get ill (I get ill every trip now at some point...and not just a sniffle)
With no medical documentation from a doctor...are they likely to believe you even if it is true and remove the charge. And it is a major inconvenience (especially when currency conversion charges would mean you don't get a full refund)

In theory it sounds great....but there are a great deal of flaws in the concept of charging for ADRs to things other than shows and Cindy.

[Kat73]

With the CC requirement it will cut down on all the no shows for ADR's. No shows do cost them as they are not filling the seats, many of us don't even try to get in on a walk up so they may not fill them that way.

Yeah... but they don't need to move to a 180 day window to do the CC thing

[skier_pete]

The move back to 180 days was brought up first on Touring plans - maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Not that that makes it true either - just saying this guy from Utah might have got it from there...made up a date to go with it?

SkierPete

[Unibits]

With no medical documentation from a doctor...are they likely to believe you even if it is true and remove the charge. And it is a major inconvenience (especially when currency conversion charges would mean you don't get a full refund)

In theory it sounds great....but there are a great deal of flaws in the concept of charging for ADRs to things other than shows and Cindy.

We had this same thing a few years back. We decided to get a US dollar credit card (we are Canadians) so that when a credit charge is "fixed" or credited we don't end up loosing anything on the exchange.

This also allows us to pay the bill without paying the convenience charge that all CC companies charge. We simply pay the bill with US currency when it arrives.

[Condorman]

I'm all for a move back to 180days....although even if it were true it won't help with this December. :(

The only thing with taking a cc and charging for no shows is that there are times when you can be delayed or unable to come through no fault of your own (ie Disney transport stuffs up) or something happens like an illness etc.
For this reason we will make a couple extra ADRs for ones we REALLY want to do incase I get ill (I get ill every trip now at some point...and not just a sniffle)
With no medical documentation from a doctor...are they likely to believe you even if it is true and remove the charge. And it is a major inconvenience (especially when currency conversion charges would mean you don't get a full refund)

In theory it sounds great....but there are a great deal of flaws in the concept of charging for ADRs to things other than shows and Cindy.

Not to be a naysayer, but if Disney does they correctly, they wouldn't be accepting ANY reasons or excuses for missing an ADR. Not for anyone, not at anytime. Once word got out that all you had to say was someone in your party became ill, everyone would use that excuse. Likewise, if your flight was delayed coming in or Disney transportation broke down, the whole policy would be moot. Also, Disney can't ask for a doctor's note; the hassle alone, not to mention the legal ramifications would be a logistical disaster. The bottom line is, ADRs are not a necessity. Yes, we all know they are at certain times of the year, but you don't HAVE TO make them. You can always try as a walk-in if you're not sure you can make it.

Some people haven't noticed this, but in the past week alone, when using the online ADR system, a very long disclaimer (which used to be for CC-held ADRs only) has been added to appear on ALL ADRs. This disclaimer has actually been on the online site since it became available, however it wasn't appearing on the confirmation page or the confirmation e-mails until just this past week. This ADR was for Sci-Fi Dine-In, a (1) credit TS @ DHS:

-Transportation Time: Allow up to 1.5 hours to travel to your destination when traveling within Walt Disney World property.

- Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price.

They're covering their tails by telling you to allow for 1.5 hours of travel time, as well as that a CC (maybe not now, but soon) will be required. I didn't have to put down a CC to make this ADR. However, a new box appeared stating that $0 payment had been made -- a box that has never appeared alongside this type of ADR before.

Something is happening.

[PiperGirlInWondrland]

At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price. [/B]



ok, I'm probably being dense here but what is this part of their disclaimer supposed to mean? :confused3

[WeLoveLilo05]

Uuuuggggghh! (I feel like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football!)

We will be a big group in Aug 2010 and we are unsure of our dates and what not. I hope this is just a rumor and they stay with the 90 days....maybe make CRT and some of the bigger ones 180 again.

[WeLoveLilo05]

Not to be a naysayer, but if Disney does they correctly, they wouldn't be accepting ANY reasons or excuses for missing an ADR. Not for anyone, not at anytime. Once word got out that all you had to say was someone in your party became ill, everyone would use that excuse. Likewise, if your flight was delayed coming in or Disney transportation broke down, the whole policy would be moot. Also, Disney can't ask for a doctor's note; the hassle alone, not to mention the legal ramifications would be a logistical disaster. The bottom line is, ADRs are not a necessity. Yes, we all know they are at certain times of the year, but you don't HAVE TO make them. You can always try as a walk-in if you're not sure you can make it.

Some people haven't noticed this, but in the past week alone, when using the online ADR system, a very long disclaimer (which used to be for CC-held ADRs only) has been added to appear on ALL ADRs. This disclaimer has actually been on the online site since it became available, however it wasn't appearing on the confirmation page or the confirmation e-mails until just this past week. This ADR was for Sci-Fi Dine-In, a (1) credit TS @ DHS:

-Transportation Time: Allow up to 1.5 hours to travel to your destination when traveling within Walt Disney World property.

- Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price.

They're covering their tails by telling you to allow for 1.5 hours of travel time, as well as that a CC (maybe not now, but soon) will be required. I didn't have to put down a CC to make this ADR. However, a new box appeared stating that $0 payment had been made -- a box that has never appeared alongside this type of ADR before.

Something is happening.

Wait, so now I need a CC no matter WHAT ADR I make? This is insane! Why would Disney do this? I could see if you don't call and cancel and never show up. But if I call an hour or 2 before my ADR and cancel, I am sure someone (a walk-in) will gobble up my spot, kwim?

[KYMickey]

Folks, read the statement carefully. This section regarding charging a credit card is in the same paragraph as ordering a special kosher meal. At this point in time they will only charge a credit card for that meal. You can't get all you can eat at a buffet, it states you only get one meal. The credit card charge issue does not apply to regular ADR's only special requests.

It may be a sign of things to come (hopefully is) but right now it isn't.

[queenie82]

Not to be a naysayer, but if Disney does they correctly, they wouldn't be accepting ANY reasons or excuses for missing an ADR. Not for anyone, not at anytime. Once word got out that all you had to say was someone in your party became ill, everyone would use that excuse. Likewise, if your flight was delayed coming in or Disney transportation broke down, the whole policy would be moot. Also, Disney can't ask for a doctor's note; the hassle alone, not to mention the legal ramifications would be a logistical disaster. The bottom line is, ADRs are not a necessity. Yes, we all know they are at certain times of the year, but you don't HAVE TO make them. You can always try as a walk-in if you're not sure you can make it.

Some people haven't noticed this, but in the past week alone, when using the online ADR system, a very long disclaimer (which used to be for CC-held ADRs only) has been added to appear on ALL ADRs. This disclaimer has actually been on the online site since it became available, however it wasn't appearing on the confirmation page or the confirmation e-mails until just this past week. This ADR was for Sci-Fi Dine-In, a (1) credit TS @ DHS:

-Transportation Time: Allow up to 1.5 hours to travel to your destination when traveling within Walt Disney World property.

- Most Walt Disney World Resort table-service restaurants that accept advance reservations can accommodate Kosher needs if requested at least 24 hours in advance by calling (407) WDW-DINE or (407) 939-3463. Guests under age 18 must have parent or guardian permission to call. A credit card is required to guarantee this meal; the full price of ordered meals will be charged if you cancel within one day of the reservation or are a "no show" for the reservation. At family-style or buffet locations, you will only receive one meal; does not include all-you-care-to-eat. You will be charged the regular buffet or all-you-care-to-eat price.

They're covering their tails by telling you to allow for 1.5 hours of travel time, as well as that a CC (maybe not now, but soon) will be required. I didn't have to put down a CC to make this ADR. However, a new box appeared stating that $0 payment had been made -- a box that has never appeared alongside this type of ADR before.

Something is happening.
Great. So if I have a seizure and need to go to hospital for nine hours...I still have to pay for a meal I was planning to go to?
SERIOUSLY DISNEY WOULD BE THAT CALLOUS?????

And I still don't get this bit -
"You can't get all you can eat at a buffet, it states you only get one meal"

So...I have to pile up my plate with all the stuff I want at once so the flavours mix and it gets cold. Rather than pick a bit of this...go eat...then get another little bit...

[KYMickey]

And I still don't get this bit -
"You can't get all you can eat at a buffet, it states you only get one meal"

So...I have to pile up my plate with all the stuff I want at once so the flavours mix and it gets cold. Rather than pick a bit of this...go eat...then get another little bit...
Again, if you read carefully that is included with the paragraph discussing Kosher meals! It means if you request a Kosher meal they are not going to provide a complete Kosher buffet for you but rather will just provide you with a meal! Does that make sense?

[Condorman]

Great. So if I have a seizure and need to go to hospital for nine hours...I still have to pay for a meal I was planning to go to?
SERIOUSLY DISNEY WOULD BE THAT CALLOUS?????

And I still don't get this bit -
"You can't get all you can eat at a buffet, it states you only get one meal"

So...I have to pile up my plate with all the stuff I want at once so the flavours mix and it gets cold. Rather than pick a bit of this...go eat...then get another little bit...

If you're already portending a seizure and hospitalization, then I think paying $10 or $20 for an ADR cancelation is the least of your worries. Also, why would that be Disney's fault? A large percentage of people who go to WDW have medical challenges; are all of them to receive discounts, waivers and free-passes? I don't know how a potential CC/ADR system would work, I only know how it should, and that is by not excusing anyone for any reason. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and allowing any pardons would open the floodgates for everyone to take advantage and cancel without penalty.

[redrosesix]

Oh I SO hope they need a cc to reserve EVERY ADR. You'll see how quickly ADR slots open up. :) I'm all for it and will willingly hand over my cc# every time they ask.

I'm with you on this! :cool1:

If you're already portending a seizure and hospitalization, then I think paying $10 or $20 for an ADR cancelation is the least of your worries. Also, why would that be Disney's fault? A large percentage of people who go to WDW have medical challenges; are all of them to receive discounts, waivers and free-passes? I don't know how a potential CC/ADR system would work, I only know how it should, and that is by not excusing anyone for any reason. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and allowing any pardons would open the floodgates for everyone to take advantage and cancel without penalty.

Yes, the charge on the CC would be the least of my worries if a member of my family was on their way to the hospital.

As for the 180 day window, I can't see how it would be at all necessary. I don't personally know anybody who wants to make reservations 6 months in advance. It's pretty hard to even make airline reservations that far in advance -- they don't have all of the flights scheduled yet.

[queenie82]

As for the 180 day window, I can't see how it would be at all necessary. I don't personally know anybody who wants to make reservations 6 months in advance. It's pretty hard to even make airline reservations that far in advance -- they don't have all of the flights scheduled yet.We book airline tickets as soon as possible and the schedule for the airlines is released at the 300 day window. We then book DVC as soon as we have the flights booked.

We have been ready to make December ADRs since April

Yes, the charge on the CC would be the least of my worries if a member of my family was on their way to the hospital.Not the point....of course you don't worry about it at the time.
But once it is dealt with...I'm not made of money is the point. I just thought perhaps Disney was slightly understanding of emergencies
I don't see how a person asking for a refund and then having it dealt with on a case by case basis would be a problem??

[minnie_michelle]

I don't see what everyone is getting so upset about. Disney is losing money because people are abusing the system and booking multiple ADR's and then choosing which ones they want to go to instead of just simply planning in advance. I think they have every right to require a CC# to hold a reservation and then charge that CC# if the person does not show up.

Now, the kicker is that Disney NEEDS to allow the party to cancel up to their reservation time if needed. Yes, things come up, people get stuck in parks, get stuck on buses, end up waiting far longer than anticipated and miss their reservations, so Disney needs to protect their guests as well and only charge them if the person has not shown up at the reservation time nor called to say they were running late. Everyone has cell phones these days, so it is perfectly acceptable for Disney to ask a person to call if they are running late to avoid the charge. They should only charge when there is a no-show at the reservation time.

I think doing this fixes the no-show problem and also gives guests some flexibility to cancel at the last minute if needed and their table can be given to a walk up.

[Lynn5700]

Oh I think it's fine if they are going to need a CC for all reservations now. It's the smart thing for the restaurants to do.

We have always cancelled an ADR if something comes up, or if we just change our minds. It's the polite thing to do. If we are running late because of transportation issues, we just call and say we are running a little late. It's no biggy.

[queenie82]

I don't see what everyone is getting so upset about. Disney is losing money because people are abusing the system and booking multiple ADR's and then choosing which ones they want to go to instead of just simply planning in advance. I think they have every right to require a CC# to hold a reservation and then charge that CC# if the person does not show up.

Now, the kicker is that Disney NEEDS to allow the party to cancel up to their reservation time if needed. Yes, things come up, people get stuck in parks, get stuck on buses, end up waiting far longer than anticipated and miss their reservations, so Disney needs to protect their guests as well and only charge them if the person has not shown up at the reservation time nor called to say they were running late. Everyone has cell phones these days, so it is perfectly acceptable for Disney to ask a person to call if they are running late to avoid the charge. They should only charge when there is a no-show at the reservation time.

I think doing this fixes the no-show problem and also gives guests some flexibility to cancel at the last minute if needed and their table can be given to a walk up.
This is precisely the logic I was looking for. I'm glad to see at least one person on here is logical, practical and living in reality land.
People whinge they can't plan 180 days in advance and then also claim they are 100% sure nothing will happen to stop them being able make an ADR 48hrs in advance. Gosh I wish I lived in that world.

[KYMickey]

Everyone raises good points about not being charged if you call and cancel reservations that have been guaranteed with a CC. The problem is by being able to cancel up until the last minute you don't really prevent people from making multiple ADR's. They could make one for MK, one for EPCOT and one for the Studios and then 15 minutes before their scheduled time decide which ones they were going to cancel! It doesn't solve anything and just creates more hassle for those that follow the rules.

[Palendat]

Everyone raises good points about not being charged if you call and cancel reservations that have been guaranteed with a CC. The problem is by being able to cancel up until the last minute you don't really prevent people from making multiple ADR's. They could make one for MK, one for EPCOT and one for the Studios and then 15 minutes before their scheduled time decide which ones they were going to cancel! It doesn't solve anything and just creates more hassle for those that follow the rules.

It does open up space for walk-ups, whose money is just as good for Disney as ADR peoples' money. If a restaurant knows 15 min. ahead of time that you cancelled, they can give the spot to a walk-up, and no money lost on Disney's part.

[diamondpixienc]

I am so confused now:sad: I am going to contact my AAA agent to find out about this one:magnify:

[PrincessTiffany]

Posted by WHOM?
The DisBoard homepage is announcing that ADRs and the calendar are both going back to 180 days, effective October 27, 2009.

[eeyorepixie]

The DisBoard homepage is announcing that ADRs and the calendar are both going back to 180 days, effective October 27, 2009.

Yipppeee! I like the 180 waaaaaaaaaaaaay better!