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bigbabyblues
08-01-2009, 02:16 PM
Small pencil box labeled with child's name
#2 lead pencils
pillow for rest time that fit in a grocery sack to be sent home and washed
1 box crayons that will fit in the pencil box

That's it. DS8's list was a little longer, but not bad either.

princessesrule
08-01-2009, 02:21 PM
Not bad! My DDs are both about 20 items. i really love hitting the good sales. They sell a prepackaged bundle for each grade level at about $50, when I get their supplies with all the sales, I spend about $15 total total! The packages are such a rip off!:teacher:

Kimmumum
08-01-2009, 02:23 PM
I would love a $50 prepack. My DS's prepack is $110. I got got all of the supplies on sale for around $35:banana:

Goofygirl17
08-01-2009, 02:37 PM
I wish they would give us the list at the end of the previous school year or at least earlier in the summer so I could bargain shop. I don't have lists for my DDs yet.

annagirl
08-01-2009, 02:45 PM
I ended up with about $40 worth of stuff to buy - gads it does wear on you. Thankfully there are several items she can reuse this year - ruler, scissors, backpack, lunchsack, etc.

DisneyBabies
08-01-2009, 02:52 PM
First up on DS's list: uniforms (new policy instituted by the school board for the 2009/2010 school year :eek:). They can only have certain colored polos and khaki shorts and pants. Shirts must be collared except they are allowed to wear a white sweatshirt with the school logo during the winter (avaliable only at the school store for $39.95 + tax). Total cost of uniforms after b3g1f offer: $82.37.

Next up: Book bag, 4 boxes of 12 ct #2 pencils, 2 boxes of 24 ct regular crayons, 5 folders (certain colors), 1 pair of 5" scissors, 2 4oz bottles of glue, 2 marble composition books, 3 boxes of tissues, 1 box of quart ziploc bags, 1 box of gallon ziploc bags, 1 large bottle of hand sanitizer, 1 day book (avalible at the school store for $8.95 + tax), baby wipes, clorox wipes, lysol spray, 3x5 index cards, large pink erasers, plus a lunch box if your child brings his/her lunch to school. :scared1:

At the bottom of the page it says "Please do not label any of the supplies as most go into general class supplies". Which means that I am supposed to buy supplies for DS AND any of his classmates who can't afford to get their own supplies. There's just one problem . . . I can't really afford to get supplies for DS, much less the other kids. Why does the school think we are made of money?

And yes, DS is going to be going into kindergarten.

libinatorsmom
08-01-2009, 04:32 PM
OMG this is my DD's list for Kindergraten..... Just picked most of it up

4 boxes - 8ct Crayola Crayons NOT JUMBO
8 .77 oz Elmers Glue Sticks
1 - 5" Fiskars scissors
6 Boxes 24 ct Crayola Crayons
1 box 160ct Kleenex
1 box gal Zip locks
1- 2" Avery View Binder
1- 9X5 Spacemaker supply box
1- small pink beveled easer
1-bath towel

And we can not put thier names on anything

torinsmom
08-01-2009, 05:32 PM
I wish they would give us the list at the end of the previous school year or at least earlier in the summer so I could bargain shop. I don't have lists for my DDs yet.

Just so you know, teachers make those lists before school lets out. I don't know why it takes the school so long to send them out.:confused3 We were asked to make out our list and then told the district may send out the generic one they have used before.:sad2: We are a Montessori school(public) and our supply needs are very different from the generic ones. Last year they did that and we got lots of things we didn't need, and didn't get things we did need. So of course we had to spend our own money and parents wasted their money as well.:headache:

Marsha

disneychrista
08-01-2009, 05:38 PM
I hate school supply lists. Half the time they don't end up needing/using the supplies that they are said to need. Other than paper, pencil lead, pens and a 2" binder I don't buy any of the supplies until they actually need them.

Tink_fanatic
08-01-2009, 06:08 PM
For my DD Kindergarten school list I need:


Ziploc bags
Kleenex
Sanitizer
Baby Wipes
Crayons


No specifics. I got her 8 count crayons, Snack size Ziploc bags, big bottle of sanitizer.

She also has too wear uniforms. Colors are Navy Blue, Artic White, Royal Blue, Black and Khaki. Uniforms are killing me.

Blue.Fairy2
08-01-2009, 06:16 PM
I wish they would give us the list at the end of the previous school year or at least earlier in the summer so I could bargain shop. I don't have lists for my DDs yet.

ours did that this year and it was great! i hope they keep it up....

CandCMommy
08-01-2009, 06:19 PM
DS's Kindergarten list:

1-Package baby or antibacterial wipes

That's it. :confused3

I think that's kinda weird but, whatever, at least it's cheap for me! :cool1:

Goofygirl17
08-01-2009, 06:30 PM
We just got a letter today telling us who DD6 has for a teacher but still no supply list. DD10's school lets us pick up the school packet on Wed and maybe there will be a list in there.

Piecey
08-01-2009, 06:49 PM
OMG this is my DD's list for Kindergraten..... Just picked most of it up

4 boxes - 8ct Crayola Crayons NOT JUMBO
8 .77 oz Elmers Glue Sticks
1 - 5" Fiskars scissors
6 Boxes 24 ct Crayola Crayons
1 box 160ct Kleenex
1 box gal Zip locks
1- 2" Avery View Binder
1- 9X5 Spacemaker supply box
1- small pink beveled easer
1-bath towel

And we can not put thier names on anything

They require brand names? :eek:

This thread choked me up a bit. I started thinking about how this will be me... in a mere FIVE years. :rotfl:

koima
08-01-2009, 06:57 PM
You laugh that it's 5 years off, but it will be here before you know it! DS is in preK this year. I swear it feels like he was born last week.

Piecey
08-01-2009, 07:02 PM
You laugh that it's 5 years off, but it will be here before you know it! DS is in preK this year. I swear it feels like he was born last week.

I know, that is why I DID laugh. "Mere 5 years" my foot. I can't believe he's 2 months old. :guilty:

AZMermaid
08-01-2009, 07:18 PM
I teach 3rd grade and the school does the lists and we get little input. But, I would say if you wanted to cut costs and you have a really long list- you can skip:

ziploc baggies
hand sanatizer
clorox wipes
lysol spray
index cards
tape

I have SO much of this stuff left at the end of the year. I bring it down to the low income schools. I used to teach at one and I know they don't get many supplies. Our school actually does half and half on this stuff (girls bring wipes, boys bring spray etc.).

It really helps when the kids bring at a minimum:
scissors
glue, glue and more glue
crayons/ markers/ colored pencils
kleenex (last year I had 1 box left)
pencils
erasers (can't get enough!)
folders (and the kind we ask for!)

We also share supplies and I have found they last a LOT longer that way. The year I let each kid keep it, they lost it or broke it within a month. If they are sharing between four of them, they take better care of it. It might be because with their own, the supplies are abundant and sharing they seem scarcer- not sure. But, the difference is huge! I store them all and change them out as needed. I actually save the used stuff for if we run out at the end of the year. Then I give anything usable back at the end (round robin, each kid picks 1-2 things).

Oh, and PLEASE don't buy pencil sharpeners without a place for the shavings to go. You might think they sharpen over the trash. They don't. :thumbsup2

EthansMom
08-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Our PTO has bought the school supplies the last few years. They spend around $10 per child.

I do buy new supplies to keep on hand for homework each year.

teedisney
08-01-2009, 07:45 PM
My kid had tube socks and dixie cups on his kindergarten list plus the other stuff. We figured the socks were for art class and the cups are for snacks. My husband handed off the supplies a little too quick. I had meant to unbundle some stuff so we would have some at home.

To OP with uniforms - do they have to come from a certain place?

I've been a bit emotional all week thinking about the 1st day of school.

clh2
08-01-2009, 08:13 PM
My DD needed a tube sock in 1st grade too. The list was specific though: The tube sock becomes an eraser for the small dry erase boards they use in class from time to time. The intent was - send a used holey one, one that was outgrown, or one that somehow lost its mate to the dryer "sock monster", one that lost its elasticity etc.

dreamin_disney
08-01-2009, 08:37 PM
I wish they would give us the list at the end of the previous school year or at least earlier in the summer so I could bargain shop. I don't have lists for my DDs yet.


i agree with you. I wouldnt mind getting a list of supplies from the two teachers she might get, that way i can shop at the sales and what isnt needed can be returned. DD will be in 5th grade so there are only two 5th grade teachers. School doesnt start for another 1 1/2 weeks.
we did buy a few things like glue sticks 2/.25 bought 2-3 packs, folder 2.50
crayons .25 , markers 2 packs 1.00 ea

teedisney
08-01-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh I didn't think about using a sock as an eraser. I got a pair out of the $1 bin with CVS ECBs!! LOL He did need dry erase pens.

mchames
08-01-2009, 10:22 PM
I teach 3rd grade and the school does the lists and we get little input. But, I would say if you wanted to cut costs and you have a really long list- you can skip:

ziploc baggies
hand sanatizer
clorox wipes
lysol spray
index cards
tape

I have SO much of this stuff left at the end of the year. I bring it down to the low income schools. I used to teach at one and I know they don't get many supplies. Our school actually does half and half on this stuff (girls bring wipes, boys bring spray etc.).

It really helps when the kids bring at a minimum:
scissors
glue, glue and more glue
crayons/ markers/ colored pencils
kleenex (last year I had 1 box left)
pencils
erasers (can't get enough!)
folders (and the kind we ask for!)

We also share supplies and I have found they last a LOT longer that way. The year I let each kid keep it, they lost it or broke it within a month. If they are sharing between four of them, they take better care of it. It might be because with their own, the supplies are abundant and sharing they seem scarcer- not sure. But, the difference is huge! I store them all and change them out as needed. I actually save the used stuff for if we run out at the end of the year. Then I give anything usable back at the end (round robin, each kid picks 1-2 things).

Oh, and PLEASE don't buy pencil sharpeners without a place for the shavings to go. You might think they sharpen over the trash. They don't. :thumbsup2


I want to second this. My girls are going into 4th and 6th grades and I've stopped bringing the cleaning supplies (paper towels, hand soap, wipes, etc.)in the first day of school. I've found that teachers really don't have the space to store 20+ of each of these items all at once. I usually double-check with the teacher if they want them right away or not and wind up bringing stuff in to replenish the supply around Nov/Dec.

Also, it's really not unusal for kids in K and 1st grade to share supplies. It's not about covering supplies for those kids who can't afford them, it's more about fostering community and just cutting down on the "Hey, that's my pencil. Make him give it back." It's also much easier for teachers to pass out one box of supplies per table than to have 20 kids find and unpack their supplies and inevitably find that they are missing the red crayon that is needed for the exercise.

In my kids school, if a child is unable to bring in supplies the teacher will let the school counselor know and those supplies will be provided discreetly by the PTA.

Mary

Princess April
08-01-2009, 11:11 PM
*WOW* the supply list really do vary! My DD's list was a mile long ... but she is an only child so we :thumbsup2 happily purchased every last item on the list. I even prepared a "back to school" bag for her teacher with stuff that I thought she would find useful: stickers (reward) special pencils and erasers, sticky notes, highlighters, bag of wrapped candy and some other assorted goodies for the classroom. I have noticed 2 things from reading this and preparing DD for school (talking to other parents)
#1: People are starting to get "mad" about having to "share" supplies with other (less fortunate) children. I understand that their parents "should" provide them with all the necessary school supplies, but sometimes things cannot be helped and they don't get them the supplies they need. I personally think that this is sad and I don't mind sharing my DD's supplies....I see both sides but seriously, these are young children, let's not take it out on them, budget or not. I have spoken to several parents that are not going to buy the requested school supplies for their children on purpose. :sad2:
#2 I read somewhere that the average teacher spends about $2,000.00 out of pocket for supplies for their classroom. :scared1: Not fair, when was the last time you had to pay to work? I hope more people chip in so they won't have to dig so deep.
... just one person's humble opinion... flame away.

Leajess99
08-01-2009, 11:31 PM
They require brand names? :eek:

This thread choked me up a bit. I started thinking about how this will be me... in a mere FIVE years. :rotfl:

The reason many teachers request crayola and elmers and fiskars is because they are a better quality. Many of the crayon brands are just a waste as they break or are really waxy to color with. I prefer those brands at home with my own children. I found crayola 24 ct crayons and elmer's glue and glue sticks for 19 cents each at Meijer and really stocked up. Last year the teacher was asking for stuff half way throuh the school year when the prices were way back up. By stocking up I can provide in the middle of the school year and not have to pay $1 for 24 crayons.

WantToGoNow
08-02-2009, 08:09 AM
My dd5 is starting Kindergarten and they have to supply nothing. My ds8 will be in 3rd grade and his list makes up for the lack of hers. Last year in preschool she had a list of about 20 items (and none of those came back at the end of the year).

Kteacher
08-02-2009, 08:26 AM
Wow!! I can't believe some of the lists for kindergarteners!!! My list:

change of clothes in a plastic bag labeled w/child's name




That's it. We have a wide range of income levels at my school, and I never like to put pressure on parents to send in things that they can't afford. Our PGO publishes a "wish list" in the school newsletter, and if there is anything I feel like my classroom is in dire need of I post it there.
I know I will never get wealthy working in public education, so a lot of things are OOP for me.

kellieb71
08-02-2009, 08:36 AM
Please don't flame me - but I often wonder when I see these shopping lists - what happens to the huge amounts of tax dollars I spend every year to support the schools? Why do parents need to provide things that are necessary for education on top of funding it as well?

(Seriously, I'm just wondering..)

DisneyBabies
08-02-2009, 08:45 AM
I don't mind buying the extra things for DS's classmates . . . if I could afford it. And I'm sorry, but we have to live by our budget. I've already spent over $80 on the uniforms they are requiring this year. I am lucky DS had an extra backpack he could use so I don't have to buy one of those.

And in my DS's school, each child is given a big box at the beginning of the year that all their supplies are put into so when they do a project, they just go to their box and get what the teacher asked for. They don't share supplies as a class (although that is a good idea). As they do projects during the year, they put the finished product in their supply box and we get to take the box home on the last day of school to see the progress they have made. But there are no leftover supplies in the boxes at the end of the year; anything that was left in the boxes are taken out on the last day of school and kept by the teacher.

I will buy as much of the stuff as I am able, but if the supplies aren't for DS and any kids whos parents can't afford the supplies (ie the PTO picks up the tab for those children) and the kids don't share the supplies, then how is my child going to use 48 pencils in a school year?

My son was in HeadStart for two years, so I understand how much of their own money teachers put into their classrooms. We even bought bookbags for two of DS's classmates last year because their parents couldn't/didn't/wouldn't. But we can't afford to do that this year.

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 08:45 AM
I want to second this. My girls are going into 4th and 6th grades and I've stopped bringing the cleaning supplies (paper towels, hand soap, wipes, etc.)in the first day of school. I've found that teachers really don't have the space to store 20+ of each of these items all at once. I usually double-check with the teacher if they want them right away or not and wind up bringing stuff in to replenish the supply around Nov/Dec.

Also, it's really not unusal for kids in K and 1st grade to share supplies. It's not about covering supplies for those kids who can't afford them, it's more about fostering community and just cutting down on the "Hey, that's my pencil. Make him give it back." It's also much easier for teachers to pass out one box of supplies per table than to have 20 kids find and unpack their supplies and inevitably find that they are missing the red crayon that is needed for the exercise.

In my kids school, if a child is unable to bring in supplies the teacher will let the school counselor know and those supplies will be provided discreetly by the PTA.

Mary

As a teacher, thanks for bringing things in mid-year! We always run out of clorox wipes, markers, and especially pencils after few months. And you are right, we DON'T have much storage space in the classroom.

I teach pre-K/K and we do share supplies. I have a pencil can with 20 sharpened pencils in it at all times. I sharpen pencils every afternoon or morning and also sharpen when a child needs me to. Colored pencils are kept in colored wooden cups, separated by color(we mostly use colored pencils for schoolwork) We have a few sets of glue sticks, and crayons on our art shelf for drawing. The other crayons, glue sticks and markers are given out when we do art projects.

One thing---PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not bring in glitter or character pencils, if your child's list says supplies will be shared. I can't put those type of pencils out because it will cause fights or tears every time. I keep them for prizes. Plain old yellow pencils are perfect, preferably a decent brand that won't break 3 times in one daily writing session(Dollar Tree's brand is the worst!)

Teachers don't ask for name brands because we are picky; we just know what brands have held up for us. Crayola crayons, colored pencils and markers, fiskar scissors(I actually don't need scissors anymore, because I have fiskars from two years ago that still cut well), Dixon or Mead pencils, and Elmer's glue sticks. Things to buy generic would be the ziplocs, disinfecting wipes, dry erase markers, pens, tape and erasers, among other things. And it is NOT a requirement, just a request for those that can afford it.

Marsha

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 08:51 AM
Please don't flame me - but I often wonder when I see these shopping lists - what happens to the huge amounts of tax dollars I spend every year to support the schools? Why do parents need to provide things that are necessary for education on top of funding it as well?

(Seriously, I'm just wondering..)

Believe me, teachers are wondering that too! Our school ran out of copy paper at the end of May and there was no money to buy more. But somehow we were supposed to keep the kids working:confused3. North Carolina has had an "education" lottery for the last few years, but somehow, the school's budget allowance has actually decreased and it did not go to teacher raises either. We even had a furlough to make up for budget deficits.

This year is looking to be even worse and I imagine with the economy, less parents will be able to afford supplies. My budget has been stretched too, so I don't know how we will make it through the year.:sad2:

Marsha

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 08:57 AM
And in my DS's school, each child is given a big box at the beginning of the year that all their supplies are put into so when they do a project, they just go to their box and get what the teacher asked for. They don't share supplies as a class (although that is a good idea). As they do projects during the year, they put the finished product in their supply box and we get to take the box home on the last day of school to see the progress they have made. But there are no leftover supplies in the boxes at the end of the year; anything that was left in the boxes are taken out on the last day of school and kept by the teacher.

What do you think the teacher does? Sell them on the black market?:lmao:

I will buy as much of the stuff as I am able, but if the supplies aren't for DS and any kids whos parents can't afford the supplies (ie the PTO picks up the tab for those children) and the kids don't share the supplies, then how is my child going to use 48 pencils in a school year?


Okay, how many weeks are kids in school, 40? If so, that is a little more than 1 pencil a week, right? I don't know how much your kids have to write, but even my kindergarteners go through more than one pencil a week, and that doesn't include the ones they LOSE. My DS(in high school) goes through at least 10 pencils a week.

Marsha

Princess April
08-02-2009, 09:17 AM
What do you think the teacher does? Sell them on the black market?:lmao:

Marsha

I know this is a serious conversation but this really made me ROTFLMAO... :lmao::rotfl2::lmao::rotfl2:

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 09:32 AM
I know this is a serious conversation but this really made me ROTFLMAO... :lmao::rotfl2::lmao::rotfl2:

Sorry, but that is the first thing I thought of when I read that.;) I was just wondering if I was missing out on some big business dealings. We rarely have anything left and if we do, it is things we have bought with our own money.

Marsha

lattemomof3
08-02-2009, 10:30 AM
Dh & I just towed all 3 kids to walmart yesterday and bought $75 worth of school supplies. Almost everything was on sale, but we have 3 kids with VERY long lists, including strange things like headphones, a glass vase for an art project, clorox wipes, etc. Also all of the markers, crayons, paints, dry erase markers, pens, pencils, notebooks etc, etc, etc. My brother & his family live in a school district where they only have to show up with a backpack! That would be great! We also had to buy hand sanitizer & kleenex to share w/ the classes and 5$ to go towards a class fund. I'm so grateful that dh went with, it is hard to concentrate w/ the kids with! We did make it a fun trip by going to see G-Force, though:thumbsup2:thumbsup2. I am a former teacher so I know how much of their hard earned $ teachers dump into their classrooms. We don't mind buying everything on the list. For several years I took extras of some things bec. it breaks my heart that there are some kids whose parents can't afford supplies, and some whose parents just don't care. Until this year I would just get doubles of crayons, pencils, gluesticks, etc, bec. we usually get a note in Dec. asking us to replenish these thing. With 3 lists, now, though we just didn't want the extra expense. We also got each child a new backpack - I just have an "ick" factor about re-using them - my kids' backpacks get so dirty in a year - and they love to pick out a new one each year. I love to see the progression from Dora, to Princess, to a no character one for dd's, and for ds - from Thomas to Star Wars to Mario - a fun part of childhood!

DisneyBabies
08-02-2009, 11:58 AM
What do you think the teacher does? Sell them on the black market?

No, I never imagined for a minute that DS's 5' 3" tall, 100 lb teacher was going out behind the back of the school to sell pencils for $2 each to all the little kids who don't have them. That thought never occurred to me (although picturing it in my head is pretty funny).

We rarely have anything left and if we do, it is things we have bought with our own money.

But that is not the case everywhere. It's different at our school. One of my neighbors is a teachers aide and she said that most of the kids in her class last year used just over half of their pencils and only one box of crayons. I asked her what happens to the rest of the supplies and she said that she doesn't know because the teacher handles all that. So do the teachers keep them to use for the next years students? If so, why are those parents then given the same list we had the year before if they know the kids aren't going to use all those supplies?


What I am trying to figure out is why the teachers are keeping what is left of the supplies when they could be given back to me and I could use them as part of DS's supplies for the next year. I am just trying to find out where the extra supplies are going because they would be helpful in reducing the cost of what I have to pay next year.

If the economy was where it had been 3 or 4 years ago, I probably wouldn't care as much, but every penny counts for us now.

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 02:30 PM
So do the teachers keep them to use for the next years students? If so, why are those parents then given the same list we had the year before if they know the kids aren't going to use all those supplies?

What I am trying to figure out is why the teachers are keeping what is left of the supplies when they could be given back to me and I could use them as part of DS's supplies for the next year. I am just trying to find out where the extra supplies are going because they would be helpful in reducing the cost of what I have to pay next year.

If the economy was where it had been 3 or 4 years ago, I probably wouldn't care as much, but every penny counts for us now.


If I have anything left over, I save it for the next year. When I was at a charter school, I would inventory what I had and ask for things I didn't have. Now, our school makes us plan as a grade, so we sometimes end up requesting things one or two of us don't really need. Worse yet, this year the district is sending out a general list, so we will get things we don't need and won't get things we DO need.:confused3 I will have a list of what we actually need at Open House, so those who have not bought yet will get the right things. Last year, I took a load of stuff to Walmart and got the supplies we didn't get.

Marsha

disneylove69
08-02-2009, 03:10 PM
Please don't flame me - but I often wonder when I see these shopping lists - what happens to the huge amounts of tax dollars I spend every year to support the schools? Why do parents need to provide things that are necessary for education on top of funding it as well?

(Seriously, I'm just wondering..)

LOL:rotfl:You must not live in California. I remember my parents did not buy school supplies until I was in junior high. School suppllied everything. Now many organizations are trying to get backpacks filled with supplies to give students. I don't think parents should have to supply sanitziers, chalk, etc. My boss doesn't make me bring my own phone, stapler, etc.

snarlingcoyote
08-02-2009, 03:38 PM
Okay, this is probably pretty stupid, and I know I shouldn't open my big mouth but. . .

Here's the deal, as per numerous studies, on why there's no money for schools:

1. To keep businesses and draw in new businesses, local governments give big tax breaks to those businesses. In many places, that reduces the amount of money in the kitty for schools. In places with property taxes, many times, all it takes to reduce your tax load is a call to the assessor's office. Less money in the kitty for schools. Honestly, who here thinks their own measly property tax is actually enough to pay for a good education, and servies, and police services and everything else? Business and large property owners traditionally have paid the lion's share of taxes.

2. In most places, adjusted for inflation, government is actually collecting just about the same amount of money per child that they always have. The problem is that so many more programs and requirements are mandated. Every child who needs a one-on-one assistant all day is money. Every child who needs smaller classes is money. Every child who need modifications and additional testing is money. Every child who needs counseling is money. Every child who needs ANYTHING AT ALL costs more money. Now don't think I'm against ANY of those programs. I'm not. I'm just saying that if you only have X dollars to spend and you MUST spend a larger sum on a sub-set of kids, that leaves less money to spend on the others. It's just a fact.


And that's why your kids have less than you did.

StitchandPooh'sMom
08-02-2009, 03:52 PM
Believe me, teachers are wondering that too! Our school ran out of copy paper at the end of May and there was no money to buy more. But somehow we were supposed to keep the kids working:confused3. North Carolina has had an "education" lottery for the last few years, but somehow, the school's budget allowance has actually decreased and it did not go to teacher raises either. We even had a furlough to make up for budget deficits.

This year is looking to be even worse and I imagine with the economy, less parents will be able to afford supplies. My budget has been stretched too, so I don't know how we will make it through the year.:sad2:

Marsha

Our school ran out of copy paper, too! What is it with the NC budget? My kids and I went into DD6's classroom the day after school got out and separated broken crayons from crayons that might be usable next year. I have bought extra boxes of crayons and pencils this year because I know the school will need some mid-year and the prices will be high. I was DD6's grademom last year and needed to buy glue in April for the kindergarten class - it was 79 cents a bottle. I have about 12 bottles in my closet now (purchased at 20 cents per bottle) so I can restock the class mid-year without buying stuff at crazy prices.

It's going to be really bad this school year, and NC doesn't even have a budget yet. I'm stocking up now because I know the school is not going to have the money to get things.

We won't get a supply list until open house, but I'm buying things that are good deals that I know the kids will need at school or at home. We'll fill in the gaps after open house.

bucket o' butter
08-02-2009, 04:01 PM
DS (4th grade) list was the longest, but I did get it at the end of the school year. There were a few specific items for certain teachers that we didn't find out about until last week though.I was able to get most of the things on a decent sale though. I always overbuy during the summer sales and keep a "supply box" so when they need paper, pencils, crayons, etc they can just go to the box and get what they need. The one thing on the supply list that I am not sure I agree with was Clorox Wipes. Don't get me wrong, I think Clorox wipes are great and use them in my home. But why are we responsible for buying cleaning supplies for the classroom. If the desks were cleaned on a regular basis, I don't really think it would be necessary for every student to bring a box of wipes. I bought them though, but thought it was a little weird. Did anyone else have this on their lists? Just curious. By the way, I am a teacher, and I have the world's best custodian who does clean our room. My aide and I also clean off the tables on a regular basis. Just don't think the students should be responsible for bringing in the wipes, that's all. Okay, now that I have protected myself with armor you can let me have it!:):):)

bucket o' butter
08-02-2009, 04:07 PM
As a teacher, I do my best to project what supplies the children will need for the following year. One year I may have everyone bring in 2 boxes of Kleenex and at the end of the year, I may have enough left over for the next year and won't have to put that on the list. Same for crayons, markers, etc. I teach pre-school so everything is put together and we get supplies out as we need them. My list changes each year based on what we have left over at the end of the year. So, actually, we might be using supplies from the previous year this year. I hope I explained myself clearly, because it is hard to put in writing. I certainly don't give away the supplies or throw them away. They are always used!

creativeamanda
08-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Please don't flame me - but I often wonder when I see these shopping lists - what happens to the huge amounts of tax dollars I spend every year to support the schools? Why do parents need to provide things that are necessary for education on top of funding it as well?

(Seriously, I'm just wondering..)

Let's see, among the things that I sign purchase orders for just my department alone. . .

Salaries
FICA
a certain % of health insurance
upkeep on computers
bandwith for internet usage
copy machine rental fees
electric bill
phone bill
supplies such as books, etc

And I could not believe the cost of the broken water main last year :scared1:

The average district in my area has around a $7000 per pupil expenditure. If the average classroom has 24 students, then that is $168,000 per classroom. Our district office's electric bill last month was $7240. That's a building with no kids! The problem is that the state continually keeps reducing the per pupil allowance, meaning we'll likely be seing a 7% across the board cut by October 1. In other words, your tax money is helping run the infrastructure of a school. You really want to cut expeditures for any school? Reduce the number of people working in a district office.

creativeamanda
08-02-2009, 04:15 PM
DS (4th grade) list was the longest, but I did get it at the end of the school year. There were a few specific items for certain teachers that we didn't find out about until last week though.I was able to get most of the things on a decent sale though. I always overbuy during the summer sales and keep a "supply box" so when they need paper, pencils, crayons, etc they can just go to the box and get what they need. The one thing on the supply list that I am not sure I agree with was Clorox Wipes. Don't get me wrong, I think Clorox wipes are great and use them in my home. But why are we responsible for buying cleaning supplies for the classroom. If the desks were cleaned on a regular basis, I don't really think it would be necessary for every student to bring a box of wipes. I bought them though, but thought it was a little weird. Did anyone else have this on their lists? Just curious. By the way, I am a teacher, and I have the world's best custodian who does clean our room. My aide and I also clean off the tables on a regular basis. Just don't think the students should be responsible for bringing in the wipes, that's all. Okay, now that I have protected myself with armor you can let me have it!:):):)

Our custodial staff certainly does not have the time to clean every floor, empty every trash can, clean every bathroom, buff the hallway floors and wipe down every desk every day. That being said, I don't understand why Windex instead of Cloriox wipes can't be used. I think it teaches kids a good lesson to have to wipe down their desks at the end of every day.

tavettava
08-02-2009, 05:37 PM
[QUOTE=DisneyBabies;32983376]


then how is my child going to use 48 pencils in a school year?

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Yes, a child can go through 48 pencils in a school year. I would put it at more like 100 pencils a year. Kids sharpen their pencils at least 5 times a day. A lot of kids like pencils to be really short. They also lose them.

AZMermaid
08-02-2009, 06:00 PM
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Yes, a child can go through 48 pencils in a school year. I would put it at more like 100 pencils a year. Kids sharpen their pencils at least 5 times a day. A lot of kids like pencils to be really short. They also lose them.

LOL! Yes- I tell my 3rd graders if it is shorter than your thumb, you have to throw it away. They will sharpen them WAY down.

tavettava
08-02-2009, 06:18 PM
Some one was asking where tax dollars are going. Here in MI all the money for schools goes to Lansing (our capital) and they dish it out all over the state. So in my city we don't keep our money, it goes to other places. Oh ya and the people that are running the schools in our district (superintendent, school board ect) have gotten raises for the last 3 years, not the teachers though.

Calliaz
08-02-2009, 07:41 PM
We didn't get a list from the public school for my 1st grader this year. I did buy a bunch of supplies for home, though.

Last year DS went to a private school. Since I don't have to pay tuition this year, I want to give his teacher some extra money for supplies.

I'm thinking a gift card would be good (probably $50). Any ideas what store? Would this not be allowed?

momxx5
08-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Our school district does not announce teachers until the Friday before school starts. Thus you cannot buy the specifics that each teacher wants to have a supplies. With 5 kids, my oldest in high school, by now I figured out to buy all the basics while the sales are on. A few yrs back Walmart had their pkgs of paper for 10cents so I bought a box of it for $5.00. The older kids laugh that we'll have lined paper all the way for my youngest to go to college. Certain things, for older kids (5th gr and up) to watch for sales are graph paper, note cards, post-its, larger zippered binders, dividers, page protecters, and especially project covers. I really stock up when they are on sale because one small pkg of graph paper can be $3.00 later in the year. During the year the kids always have projects and then the day or two before they are due they are asking for report covers, so now I have a drawer with assorted colors and kinds.

squirrlygirl
08-02-2009, 08:17 PM
LOL:rotfl:You must not live in California. I remember my parents did not buy school supplies until I was in junior high. School suppllied everything. Now many organizations are trying to get backpacks filled with supplies to give students. I don't think parents should have to supply sanitziers, chalk, etc. My boss doesn't make me bring my own phone, stapler, etc.

Be thankful. DH has to buy his own pens, paper, folders, etc. Some of his coworkers have lost their phones and have been told to give out their personal cell number and (get this) "we'll try not to call you unless it's important".

As for the clorox wipes, our school found there was a decrease in illnesses if they wiped down the tables before snack time. Freshly washed hands don't do much if you're sitting at a germ-covered table.

torinsmom
08-02-2009, 09:22 PM
The one thing on the supply list that I am not sure I agree with was Clorox Wipes. Don't get me wrong, I think Clorox wipes are great and use them in my home. But why are we responsible for buying cleaning supplies for the classroom. If the desks were cleaned on a regular basis, I don't really think it would be necessary for every student to bring a box of wipes. I bought them though, but thought it was a little weird. Did anyone else have this on their lists? Just curious. By the way, I am a teacher, and I have the world's best custodian who does clean our room. My aide and I also clean off the tables on a regular basis. Just don't think the students should be responsible for bringing in the wipes, that's all. Okay, now that I have protected myself with armor you can let me have it!:):):)

Our custodial staff sweep and mop the floors and clean the bathrooms/sinks in the classroom. They don't clean the desks, tables or chairs. To kill the germs, we either need clorox wipes or clorox spray and paper towels. This year we will really need to use it, as they are saying the H1N1 will be a problem along with the seasonal flu.

That being said, I don't understand why Windex instead of Cloriox wipes can't be used. I think it teaches kids a good lesson to have to wipe down their desks at the end of every day.

Windex does not kill germs, does it? I would be okay with parents bringing in clorox and paper towels. We could make up bleach bottles, but it is tricky getting the perfect amount to sanitize without being harmful.

Marsha

MouseLover
08-02-2009, 10:26 PM
I teach first grade.

Any supplies that are left over at the end of the year are given to my students to take home. There are usually 2-3 students who have lost their scissors by then. I have loaners and send notes to parents that they need to replace them, but usually they never bring more.

We ask for 30 pencils. I sharpen 3 pencils for each child before school begins. They lose them, break them (sometimes on purpose), and sharpen, sharpen, & re-sharpen them. They get reward pencils for birthdays, best citizen, drug-awareness week, & a few other occasions or holidays. At the end of this year, my students had 1 unsharpened pencil and 1 sharpened pencil to take home. We ran out of kleenexes this year. I bought more myself, a couple of parents sent in more, I borrowed more from the teacher across the hall. Finally, we just had to use the rough brown paper towels.

My grade-level team is required to come up with a supply list together. This means that if Teachers A,B,C require sticky notes, and Teacher D doesn't, D's students are going to buy them anyway.

We do not list brand names on the lists, but Crayola crayons and Fiskars scissors are really superior. Children are frustrated when they are coloring and the color barely appears on their paper, or if their scissors won't cut.

Princess April
08-02-2009, 11:01 PM
I just wanted to send a "thank you" for all the teachers that have been explaining about the school supply situation. :thumbsup2 Not only does it make me feel better that one or two random kids aren't "getting over" on the rest of us, it also puts into perspective why all the items are necessary. I'm not a teacher, I work in H.R., but some of the supplies I require might be questionable to others that don't do the job I do, but to me it really makes sense. Thanks for doing a great job and teaching our kiddos!!! :woohoo:

tspann
08-02-2009, 11:16 PM
A quick question for you teachers. Where can you get good left handed scissors? My daughter is left handed and has scissors on her Kindergarten list but I have yet to find a left handed pair. She had problems in preschool trying to cut with the right handed ones and I wanted to avoid the frustration this coming year.

AZMermaid
08-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Is there a teaching supply store in your area? They should have them. Lakeshore Learning is one to google to see if they have one near you. They have an online store which says the fiskar scissors work for lefties too, but I don't have personal experience with it!

SandrA9810
08-03-2009, 02:14 AM
A quick question for you teachers. Where can you get good left handed scissors? My daughter is left handed and has scissors on her Kindergarten list but I have yet to find a left handed pair. She had problems in preschool trying to cut with the right handed ones and I wanted to avoid the frustration this coming year.

You might want to make a note to the teacher about her being a lefty. In case they go to a general bin. Sometimes in school there were the lefty and righty bins, but for the most part just one. It was usually the teachers that were left handed that did this...


When I was in school, my sister started wroking for Wal-Mart, and so she bought use a couple boxes of paper. It lasted till I was out of high school and I think I still had about 20 packs of loose leaf left over. I ended up returning it to wal-mart for store credit, I had no idea what to do with it.

squirrlygirl
08-03-2009, 08:18 AM
A quick question for you teachers. Where can you get good left handed scissors? My daughter is left handed and has scissors on her Kindergarten list but I have yet to find a left handed pair. She had problems in preschool trying to cut with the right handed ones and I wanted to avoid the frustration this coming year.

Not a teacher, but I found some online-try thelefthand.com. DS's kindergarten teacher specifically requested left-handed scissors as opposed to ones that supposedly can be used with either hand-she said she found that lefties can't see the line they're cutting because the top blade is on the side of the paper they're looking at, blocking the line of vision. I've found he really does have an easier time with true lefty scissors.

torinsmom
08-03-2009, 08:45 AM
A quick question for you teachers. Where can you get good left handed scissors? My daughter is left handed and has scissors on her Kindergarten list but I have yet to find a left handed pair. She had problems in preschool trying to cut with the right handed ones and I wanted to avoid the frustration this coming year.

What does your child use at home to cut?

I have always been told that the Fiskar scissors are for right or left handed students. None of my lefties have ever mentioned having a problem cutting. When I did a search, I came up with these http://www.thelefthand.com/leffisscisfo.html They look the same as regular Fiskars to me.

Definitely tell the teacher if your child needs special scissors, so she doesn't put them in the general bin. Maybe she can keep them somewhere special.

Marsha

EthansMom
08-03-2009, 09:26 AM
We didn't get a list from the public school for my 1st grader this year. I did buy a bunch of supplies for home, though.

Last year DS went to a private school. Since I don't have to pay tuition this year, I want to give his teacher some extra money for supplies.

I'm thinking a gift card would be good (probably $50). Any ideas what store? Would this not be allowed?

Our teachers will occasionally ask for supplies to be sent in during the year (craft supplies, kleenex, cleaning wipes, etc...).

Also, I give the teacher(s) each a $25 GC for Borders bookstore for Christmas and an end-of-year gift. Our teachers must buy all of their own books for their classroom libraries (that the kids read when they are done with their work or during quiet time) and kids can be rough on books. I don't have any expectation that the teacher will use the GC for their classroom, but so far, every teacher, has told me that they LOVED getting it.

Our PTO buys all of the kids' basic school supplies as well as most of the kids' field trips and all of their enrichment programs (author visit, puppet shows, visiting science programs, etc...) so we try to be supportive of our PTO.

I hope this helps!

grlzmom
08-03-2009, 09:48 AM
My kids generic grade level lists are longer this year. They will also get a list of teacher specific items on the first day of school.

We also had the addition of copy paper to the list for this year (or money to purchase copy paper).

Every year it becomes harder to lug all the supplies into the classroom on the first day (used to be able to drop them off prior to school start), even with parental help with all the paper towels, wipes, paper plates, copy paper, hand sanitizer, ziplock bags and kleenex in addition to the traditional school supplies.

EthansMom
08-03-2009, 10:16 AM
Please don't flame me - but I often wonder when I see these shopping lists - what happens to the huge amounts of tax dollars I spend every year to support the schools? Why do parents need to provide things that are necessary for education on top of funding it as well?

(Seriously, I'm just wondering..)

Your tax dollars are going to the ever-increasing costs of building maintenance, utilities, staff salaries and benefits, transportation (busses), computers, books, desks, blackboards, etc...

And, with the current economy, the school boards are even being asked to cut their budgets further. There are a lot of teachers being laid off and furloughed right now as part of budget cuts.

I remember we had to provide our own school supplies even when I was in grade school (30 years ago). But, at that time, the list was very basic (crayons, pencils, scissors, glue, pencil box). Personally, I don't mind sending in some supplies to help the teachers out so it doesn't come out of their pockets. But I think that some schools with more outrageous lists should sit down and rethink what is really "necessary".