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Mickey Mobile
06-29-2009, 07:39 PM
They have closed the bridge to golf carts by the Meadows Complex to the Pool.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/003.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/002.jpg

AuburnJen92
06-29-2009, 08:28 PM
I wish they would make up their fool mind....:headache:

stacktester
06-29-2009, 08:51 PM
I wish they would make up their fool mind....:headache:

Why, because it's a 30 minute ride around on your cart?:lmao::lmao:

AuburnJen92
06-29-2009, 09:10 PM
Why, because it's a 30 minute ride around on your cart?:lmao::lmao:

When yours runs out of gas, I'll be right there to pick your sorry butt up, like all the others....:rotfl2:

BradyBz12
06-29-2009, 09:16 PM
Jeez... I guess it's a good thing there are 4 cup holders in most carts then, because we're now going to need 2 red cups a piece for sure now! :cool1:

AuburnJen92
06-29-2009, 09:18 PM
No one said anyone was ever in a hurry did they? I am all for adding cup holders....

(and strengthening the hitch to pull Donnie's gas hog:rotfl2:)

stacktester
06-29-2009, 09:34 PM
No one said anyone was ever in a hurry did they? I am all for adding cup holders....

(and strengthening the hitch to pull Donnie's gas hog:rotfl2:)

I'll remember to buy a big tank of fuel lol. I must say seeing a several thousand dollar cart being towed by Jens faithful cart is a sight.

LONE-STAR
06-29-2009, 09:43 PM
I'll remember to buy a big tank of fuel lol. I must say seeing a several thousand dollar cart being towed by Jens faithful cart is a sight.

I bring 25 gallons :)

BigDaddyRog
06-29-2009, 10:46 PM
Does this mean theres no longer GC parking next to the campfire???? Man....I loved watching the movie from my cart....it was like a drive-in!

Gatordad
06-29-2009, 11:42 PM
I'll remember to buy a big tank of fuel lol. I must say seeing a several thousand dollar cart being towed by Jens faithful cart is a sight.

you'd better settle your debt with the cart guy, or you won't have a cart.

tellnotails
06-30-2009, 05:28 AM
:thumbsup2....long over due......

stacktester
06-30-2009, 05:41 AM
you'd better settle your debt with the cart guy, or you won't have a cart. I'm not worried. I'm ready for a new one anyway.

:thumbsup2....long over due......

Next week they'll have the posts chopped back down. I think it's long overdue as well because carts don't belong there. Too many walkers and kids. Whenever we come over the bridge little one's on bikes look like a deer in the headlights. They should just ban carts altogether lol.

des1954
06-30-2009, 05:51 AM
I see this was addressed to "Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campground Guests". I assume us Fort Fiends are excluded from this & can carry on as normal.

Tri-circle-D
06-30-2009, 07:32 AM
The way I'm reading this, it suggests that carts will not be allowed to enter the "Meadow Complex" from the 1400 loop. That will take some getting used to. I agree that the situation was very dangerous, and that this step is necessary, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I don't like it.

And, who writes these things for FW?

Who are "Effective Guests?"

TCD

ftwildernessguy
06-30-2009, 07:42 AM
And, who writes these things for FW?

Who are "Effective Guests?"

TCD

Get used to it - the future of America!

AuburnJen92
06-30-2009, 07:56 AM
And, who writes these things for FW?

Who are "Effective Guests?"

TCD

You should see the writing I see in HS...It would make your eyes bleed. (and these people are going to go out into the work force with us soon...ARGH!)

JPG
06-30-2009, 08:15 AM
You should see the writing I see in HS...It would make your eyes bleed. (and these people are going to go out into the work force with us soon...ARGH!)

But...we go right ahead and pass them on to the next grade and tell them job well done...

tellnotails
06-30-2009, 08:52 AM
ouch!!!!!can't say i didn't see that coming.......:lmao:

BigDaddyRog
06-30-2009, 09:17 AM
So, this path is no longer allowed, but this path is fine.....hey as long as we can still do drive-in movie watching!! I often caught myself taking the long way to everywhere at the fort anyway!!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/dj_bigdaddyrog/newpath.jpg

AuburnJen92
06-30-2009, 10:14 AM
But...we go right ahead and pass them on to the next grade and tell them job well done...

No, WE don't. What happens after I give the grades is beyond my control.

Mickey Mobile
06-30-2009, 10:14 AM
So, this path is no longer allowed, but this path is fine.....hey as long as we can still do drive-in movie watching!! I often caught myself taking the long way to everywhere at the fort anyway!!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/dj_bigdaddyrog/newpath.jpg

Yes the green marked path is the only entrance and exit to both the pool and campfire. The only Cart parking is the LITTLE lot next to the campfire. Also, when we drove in front of the Bike Barn we were TOLD "THIS AREA IS OFF LIMITS TO CARTS!" :mad: This CM apparently was not having a magical morning or Mickey did not make her coffee yet? :confused3

Pool side of bridge

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/027.jpg

Campfire path by Bike Barn

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/030.jpg

Campfire / Pool Parking. Maybe enough parking for 20 - 25 Carts. This will be a fun place on Saturday July 4th. :rotfl2:

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/028.jpg
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/031.jpg

Campfire path from the 1400 Loop

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/036.jpg

BDR you should still be able to watch from your cart if you get there early enough.

AuburnJen92
06-30-2009, 10:15 AM
ouch!!!!!can't say i didn't see that coming.......:lmao:

Frankly, I am surprised your snarkiness wasn't in there as well.

ftwildernessguy
06-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Good thing I'm not a teacher - I'd pass em all just so I didn't have to deal with em again.

tellnotails
06-30-2009, 11:16 AM
Now that the bridge is closed..........maybe we can teach some of the effective guests to read the no smoking signs......;)

Gatordad
06-30-2009, 11:23 AM
The way I'm reading this, it suggests that carts will not be allowed to enter the "Meadow Complex" from the 1400 loop. That will take some getting used to. I agree that the situation was very dangerous, and that this step is necessary, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. I don't like it.

And, who writes these things for FW?

Who are "Effective Guests?"

TCD


Like Deb Said, we ain't effective guests.... I think I'm quite inneffective, so I will continue to mow kids down on that bridge. If they want to cross, let them get a damn cart like I do....... If God wanted us to walk, he wouldn't have invented golfcarts.

2goofycampers
06-30-2009, 11:43 AM
If God wanted us to walk, he wouldn't have invented golfcarts.

AMEN...... :lmao:

des1954
06-30-2009, 11:45 AM
Like Deb Said, we ain't effective guests.... I think I'm quite inneffective, so I will continue to mow kids down on that bridge. If they want to cross, let them get a damn cart like I do....... If God wanted us to walk, he wouldn't have invented golfcarts.


Cart paths? Who needs stinkin' cart paths???? We are Fort Fiends for God's sake!! We make our own cart paths.

daddyscooltv
06-30-2009, 11:50 AM
OK so hopefully they took out the post that were in the road behind the pool. If not that is going to be a huge golfcart traffic jam with all the traffic and being able to fit just one cart through the posts at the time.:scared1:

I really hate not being able to sit in the cart and watch the movie. That was an every night tradition sit in the cart and eat a box of popcorn!!!!!:mad:

AuburnJen92
06-30-2009, 11:59 AM
Now that the bridge is closed..........maybe we can teach some of the effective guests to read the no smoking signs......;)

I will leave that to y'all...when I am at the Fort, I am on VACATION!

Tri-circle-D
06-30-2009, 12:09 PM
So, this path is no longer allowed, but this path is fine.....hey as long as we can still do drive-in movie watching!! I often caught myself taking the long way to everywhere at the fort anyway!!
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t296/dj_bigdaddyrog/newpath.jpg

Rog- from what I see in Mickey Mobile's photos, it looks like you will not be able to drive your cart to the north side of the campfire area, which is where we have always done our drive in watching from the cart. At best, if you want to watch from your cart, you will have to be in the new parking lot, and I don't think you will be able to see from there. :(

Like Deb Said, we ain't effective guests.... I think I'm quite inneffective, so I will continue to mow kids down on that bridge. If they want to cross, let them get a damn cart like I do....... If God wanted us to walk, he wouldn't have invented golfcarts.

I say double Amen to that, brother! They have this wrong. Ban the pedestrians and bikes from the bridge. If people like walking and bike riding, let them walk and ride a little longer. Let me drive my cart!

Cart paths? Who needs stinkin' cart paths???? We are Fort Fiends for God's sake!! We make our own cart paths.

And a double Amen to that, too, Sister!

OK so hopefully they took out the post that were in the road behind the pool. If not that is going to be a huge golfcart traffic jam with all the traffic and being able to fit just one cart through the posts at the time.:scared1:

I really hate not being able to sit in the cart and watch the movie. That was an every night tradition sit in the cart and eat a box of popcorn!!!!!:mad:


I don't like not being able to even drive in from the 1400 loop. What if you're staying on the 1400 loop? You have to drive all the way around and park in that stupid parking lot? Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Daddyscooltv is right- they have gone from three ways to get in and out down to one. There will be terrible bottle necks, and also collisions, because folks are going to be forced to pass very close to each other behind the pool. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Those new poles are wood, right?

I'm just asking so I can bring the right tools.

I am not an Effective Guest, so I need to be able to drive my cart to the Meadows Snake Bar via the bridge.

TCD

And, BTW, to the OP on this thread, Mickey Mobile, I hereby award you a TCD Junior Deputy Badge. Thank you for taking the time to report this and post photos. This is the kind of stuff about which we need to be informed.

ftwildernessguy
06-30-2009, 12:25 PM
Ah, you guys need to quit yer whinin. You love going the extra distance and you know it. You're usually looking for an excuse to drive your carts, and Disney has just given that to you. Now, suck it up like big boys and girls.




Actually, I just wanted to post something to move it to page 3 so I don't have to download all those aerial photos on my lousy dial up connection every time I want to read this thread.

Mickey Mobile
06-30-2009, 12:45 PM
Rog- from what I see in Mickey Mobile's photos, it looks like you will not be able to drive your cart to the north side of the campfire area, which is where we have always done our drive in watching from the cart. At best, if you want to watch from your cart, you will have to be in the new parking lot, and I don't think you will be able to see from there. :(

Yes, you can not get to the north side of the campfire anymore. The only cart parking is in the lot and it may be hard to see the screen.


I don't like not being able to even drive in from the 1400 loop. What if you're staying on the 1400 loop? You have to drive all the way around and park in that stupid parking lot? Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Yes, Dumb!

Daddyscooltv is right- they have gone from three ways to get in and out down to one. There will be terrible bottle necks, and also collisions, because folks are going to be forced to pass very close to each other behind the pool. Dumb! Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Yes, Dumb! Although, since the poles are still there by the porch at the pool, it may be fun to sit on the porch with a beer to watch the crashes.:drive:

Those new poles are wood, right?
I'm just asking so I can bring the right tools.

Yes, got chainsaw?:rotfl2:

And, BTW, to the OP on this thread, Mickey Mobile, I hereby award you a TCD Junior Deputy Badge. Thank you for taking the time to report this and post photos. This is the kind of stuff about which we need to be informed.

TCD Thanks. Were do I pickup my badge?

Tri-circle-D
06-30-2009, 12:53 PM
TCD Thanks. Were do I pickup my badge?

I will find you and bring it to you. And, you can't show it to anyone or talk about it. We are a covert organization.

TCD

Mickey Mobile
06-30-2009, 01:07 PM
I will find you and bring it to you. And, you can't show it to anyone or talk about it. We are a covert organization.

TCD

Badge? What Badge? Shh! I know nothing! :rolleyes1

Disney John
06-30-2009, 01:26 PM
They have closed the bridge to golf carts by the Meadows Complex to the Pool.
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss183/jbowsi/003.jpg


Am I reading this wrong? It says "In preparation for improvements" ? What are they "preparing" for?

Are there going to be more changes? Maybe another added path or bridge?

Tri-circle-D
06-30-2009, 01:34 PM
Am I reading this wrong? It says "In preparation for improvements" ? What are they "preparing" for?

Are there going to be more changes? Maybe another added path or bridge?


That is what it says. But, I'm afraid that this is just the vague way that they communicate at WDW. It would be nice if there were some improvements coming but I don't know what they could do short of another bridge or path, and I don't see that happening.

TCD

Gatordad
06-30-2009, 01:54 PM
wow, I want to be deputized by TCD... Those poles lift right out of the ground, no worries......


I heard from the guy at the Fort Wilderness food court, they are building a bridge and tunnel system to get around that lake......

2goofycampers
06-30-2009, 02:14 PM
I heard from the guy at the Fort Wilderness food court, they are building a bridge and tunnel system to get around that lake......

I'll have to confirm that with the 300 loop trash guy. ;)

LONE-STAR
06-30-2009, 03:06 PM
I did not like that they closed the bridge but I could live with it. But closing the 1400 loop entrance to the camp fire is just stupid. I think I will build a taller lift for my cart with narrow tires and I will just drive over the poles. How is that for effective guest. LOL

Mickey Mobile
06-30-2009, 07:36 PM
I agree. Not quite sure why they want stop cart traffic from the Bike Barn to the 1400 loop.

AuburnJen92
06-30-2009, 08:06 PM
I want to drive in the tunnel....:)

auntie
06-30-2009, 08:24 PM
I want to drive in the tunnel....:)

Did you say tunnel? :eek:

I always think about a terrorist attack when in the Midtown Tunnel:drive:..but hey that's just me. (okay:rolleyes1..so I'm not always a glass half full kind of girl)...
Or :car:slamming against the cement walls..OR....there's a leak that suddenly BURSTS open and floods the tunnel with a gushing surge of disgusting river water, and I drown. :crazy2:

I know..I know...the medication. :laughing:

ftwildernessguy
06-30-2009, 08:28 PM
Bobby says it's only a rumor until it's confirmed by a FW bus driver.

JPG
07-01-2009, 04:50 AM
No, WE don't. What happens after I give the grades is beyond my control.


Uh, whatever...
:rolleyes:


Put me down for a vote against the closing of the bridge to cart traffic.

As far as the cart parking situation goes...the whole Fort is a mess. All the buses stopping up front forcing all the cart parking problems there..Unused cart parking near the Settlement because of this....And now cramped and not enough room for all the carts at the pool and campfire area....:sad2:

DisCamper
07-01-2009, 06:39 AM
This was something that should have been done years ago many years ago. When I worked at FW that area was where we saw the biggest problem with people and carts

Gatordad
07-01-2009, 09:17 AM
carts don't kill people, people kill people.

AuburnJen92
07-01-2009, 09:37 AM
Uh, whatever...
:rolleyes:




You have just proved that you know nothing about the world of education. Thank you. Now the world knows who we have to deal with on a daily basis.

AuburnJen92
07-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Did you say tunnel? :eek:

I always think about a terrorist attack when in the Midtown Tunnel:drive:..but hey that's just me. (okay:rolleyes1..so I'm not always a glass half full kind of girl)...
Or :car:slamming against the cement walls..OR....there's a leak that suddenly BURSTS open and floods the tunnel with a gushing surge of disgusting river water, and I drown. :crazy2:

I know..I know...the medication. :laughing:

Where is your sense of adventure? You can ride with me in my "ole' bessie" cart and we will go really slow so we won't slam into the walls!:rotfl2:

ps- bessie only goes one speed, slow

auntie
07-01-2009, 10:02 AM
Maybe in a FW Disney tunnel..you'll be able to take a ride leisurely ride.

In the Midtown Tunnel heading into or out of Manhattan...there are two speeds. Fast:car:...and Suicide :scared:! Sort of like the Tower of Terror..on wheels. :eek:
Impatient New Yorkers...:sad2:

AuburnJen92
07-01-2009, 10:18 AM
But see, this is a vacation tunnel....everyone but Pete and Donnie should go slow....:rotfl2:

auntie
07-01-2009, 10:26 AM
oh yeah...like riding go carts with the "bad kids" in with your group. :laughing:

AuburnJen92
07-01-2009, 10:34 AM
well, considering kids on bikes ride faster than my cart, i would say anyone but us would be the "bad boys":rotfl2:

LONE-STAR
07-01-2009, 08:36 PM
well, considering kids on bikes ride faster than my cart, i would say anyone but us would be the "bad boys":rotfl2:

You could always take out the floor of your cart and add foot power like the Flintstones for more speed.:rotfl2:

AuburnJen92
07-01-2009, 09:55 PM
You could always take out the floor of your cart and add foot power like the Flintstones for more speed.:rotfl2:

OMG I am laughing so hard! That is such a cool idea!:rotfl2:

JPG
07-02-2009, 02:05 AM
You have just proved that you know nothing about the world of education. Thank you. Now the world knows who we have to deal with on a daily basis.

That's your opinion....And all this time I thought I knew something. Silly little uneducated insignificant me.....One thing is for absolute though, I'm forced to "deal" with "them" (products from your world of "education" that is) daily.....Course, I just chase 'em down and cart them off to jail, but what do I know..:confused3

Woe is me....Woe, woe is me.....

I love golf carts and hate the bridge being closed to cart traffic....

VACAMPER
07-02-2009, 07:27 AM
That's your opinion....And all this time I thought I knew something. Silly little uneducated insignificant me.....One thing is for absolute though, I'm forced to "deal" with "them" (products from your world of "education" that is) daily.....Course, I just chase 'em down and cart them off to jail, but what do I know..:confused3

Woe is me....Woe, woe is me.....

I love golf carts and hate the bridge being closed to cart traffic....

teachers can only do so much for kids, the kids have to make their life choices themselves. they are not products from a "world of education" they are products from their raising. Blame their parents not their teachers.

Minnie&Mickey
07-02-2009, 08:14 AM
teachers can only do so much for kids, the kids have to make their life choices themselves. they are not products from a "world of education" they are products from their raising. Blame their parents not their teachers.

BRAVO!!! Very well said!

stacktester
07-02-2009, 08:15 AM
That's your opinion....And all this time I thought I knew something. Silly little uneducated insignificant me.....One thing is for absolute though, I'm forced to "deal" with "them" (products from your world of "education" that is) daily.....Course, I just chase 'em down and cart them off to jail, but what do I know..:confused3

Woe is me....Woe, woe is me.....

I love golf carts and hate the bridge being closed to cart traffic....

Hey, you guy's take it to the gridiron lol.

des1954
07-02-2009, 08:37 AM
teachers can only do so much for kids, the kids have to make their life choices themselves. they are not products from a "world of education" they are products from their raising. Blame their parents not their teachers.

Well put!!

Ummmm..... I think this is where the phrase...."The apple doesn't fall far from the tree"....came from.

I hate how society has morphed from one of personal responsibilty to one where everyone or everything else is to blame for an individual's action.

NLPRacing
07-02-2009, 03:16 PM
I agree. Not quite sure why they want stop cart traffic from the Bike Barn to the 1400 loop.

Wasn't the 1400 loop recently converted to "premium"? Maybe they are trying to keep people from using the loops as shortcuts. :confused3

JPG
07-02-2009, 04:54 PM
teachers can only do so much for kids, the kids have to make their life choices themselves. they are not products from a "world of education" they are products from their raising. Blame their parents not their teachers.

As usual, folks get all upset at what they think someone said and start getting their feelings hurt...I never said anything about "teachers"...I said "we", which refers to our society and current way of doing things.... :rolleyes:...
And by the way...The current public school and education system is a joke. Sorry if you take it so personal...

VACAMPER
07-02-2009, 05:44 PM
funny you edited your post as i was about to respond, you said products from the "world of education" so if not teachers which are the ones who deal with the kids on a regular basis then just who are you referring to? Society does not teach our kids, techers do.

Shan-man
07-02-2009, 06:02 PM
It takes a village... uh, bleeeeccchhh! Sorry, this nasty tasting gob of non-sense just got lodged in my throat and I had to expectorate! It takes a FAMILY. When families stop caring whether their children are literate and competent then children will stop learning and you can't blame the teachers for that. The best educated kids I know are all home-schooled, but I think that is more a reflection on the care and concern of the parents than the education they are receiving.

:santa:

auntie
07-02-2009, 06:42 PM
As usual, folks get all upset at what they think someone said and start getting their feelings hurt...I never said anything about "teachers"...I said "we", which refers to our society and current way of doing things.... :rolleyes:...
And by the way...The current public school and education system is a joke. Sorry if you take it so personal...

If the parents cared a little more about the system..and not just complaining when Johnny doesn't make the grade. Our public schools might be better. I haven't found that it's teachers that pass the kids from one year to the next..but rather parents who blame the teacher for not doing a good enough job when Johnny fails...then insist or threaten administrators, rather than have their child suffer the ramifications of not having put forth a good effort.
In my opinion this whole "no child left behind" has turned our teachers into robots..they teach for the test. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. If the kids don't do well enough on the state tests..the teacher is blamed. It's a reflection on the school and it's ratings. At least that's the way it works here on Long Island. So they push these teachers to teach for the tests...and the learning that used to go on in the classroom ...those days are gone.
Personally, I'm glad I only have one year left. My son graduates next year.
Yet..I have a daughter who wants to teach. I don't think she knows what's she's letting herself in for. God bless teachers.

JPG
07-02-2009, 07:02 PM
funny you edited your post as i was about to respond, you said products from the "world of education" so if not teachers which are the ones who deal with the kids on a regular basis then just who are you referring to? Society does not teach our kids, techers do.

No, what's funny is you are talking out of both sides of your mouth..You say teachers are not to blame, but then say "teachers teach our kids".

I do not need an education on what is wrong with the system today. I have attended church and been a born again Christian since I was a child. I have been a Law Enforcement Officer for 20 years now. I was in EMS before that. I have a teenage daughter, who is a student at a private, Christian school.

I think I have a little understanding of where our problems are. I never said ANYTHING about teachers on a personal level. Example...If I or you say something negative about "our" justice system, does that mean you are criticizing me as a Law Enforcement Officer? I myself criticize our justice system on a regular basis. So, in conclusion I will say it again. Don't take things so personal.
And yet I digress.

BigDaddyRog
07-02-2009, 07:18 PM
Man...this is getting goooood!! Closing the bridge sure brings up some interesting conflicts about our education system.....what would happen if they started charging for the campfire movie!!!

liv luvs disney
07-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Talk about a thread hi-jack. FW bridge closing to the education system.

I homeschool (thanks Shan for the positve note on homeschoolers-I'm not used to that), so I guess technically, I have no "dog in this fight", but having gone to school to be a teacher and lots of friends and family members in the public school system, I do have an opinion! First of all, as in ANY profession, there are bad teachers out there. I myself had a few in school. A person is generally in school for 13 years, including kindergarten, so though he or she may have a bad teacher from time to time, he or she would also have a good teacher from time to time as well. Teachers today are so much more than teachers. They are often times parents, counselors, mediators and so much more to their students. The number one complaint I hear from my teacher friends is that there are not enough hours in the school day to get everything done that needs to be done. The second complaint is having to "teach for the test". Unfortunately life is not about a test, but our school system seems to think otherwise.

Shan is 100% correct in it does take a village. Though sadly, in today's world so many homes are broken and kids come home to a Mom that works long hours to put food on the table and is too tired to go over a spelling list. Then there are families that think 20+ hours of baseball practice a week is much more important than learning multiplication facts. We live in a selfish world people...I have a family member who is more worried about going to the gym, getting her nails done, and swinging by the tanning bed so that by the time she gets home, her little one is passed out on the sofa. That little one is on a 5th grade reading level and is going into the 8th grade. She begs her Mom to listen to her read every day! If she didn't live 560 miles from me, I would let her read to me!! Yes, it does take a village, and the parent is (or should be) the top dog in the village. To say that it's a teacher's fault that a child is not learning is more than likely NOT the case. There's also examples of teacher friends who have retained students only to have their parents come up to the school and rant and rave over the "injustice". What humiliation for little Tommy to not be able to go to the 3rd grade with his friends. Well lady, little Tommy is in the 2nd grade and still doesn't know his ABC's, yet it's usually an administrator who passes little Tommy, not the teacher.

We definitely live in a world where the blame lies with anything or anyone but ourselves. (Sorry, this just brings up some ill feelings for me.) My children are a blessing from God to me. It is MY responsiblity to love, nurture and care for them, and to see to it that they are equipped for adulthood.

I personally think teachers get blamed for much more than is their fault and get far less credit than they deserve.:thumbsup2 They are way underpaid for the responsibility they carry.

And just because I choose to educate my children in our home does not mean I am against the school system or teachers. So don't start flaming me! I also don't have a problem with extracurricular activites; it's people who think the activities are more important than an education that I have a problem with.

LONE-STAR
07-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Its very educational to drive across the bridge in a golf cart. It teaches you how to cross water and stay dry. (there now we are on topic and it all ties together):confused3. They should have left the bridge open from a educational point of view.:thumbsup2

Just Beachy
07-02-2009, 09:16 PM
One thing is for absolute though, I'm forced to "deal" with "them" (products from your world of "education" that is) daily.....Course, I just chase 'em down and cart them off to jail, but what do I know..:confused3


Maybe all of your customers are "world of education drop-outs". Certainly there aren't any well-educated, highly influential people who have ever broken the law. :rolleyes1

Dizney_Luver
07-02-2009, 09:17 PM
popcorn::

VACAMPER
07-02-2009, 09:39 PM
No, what's funny is you are talking out of both sides of your mouth..You say teachers are not to blame, but then say "teachers teach our kids".

I do not need an education on what is wrong with the system today. I have attended church and been a born again Christian since I was a child. I have been a Law Enforcement Officer for 20 years now. I was in EMS before that. I have a teenage daughter, who is a student at a private, Christian school.

I think I have a little understanding of where our problems are. I never said ANYTHING about teachers on a personal level. Example...If I or you say something negative about "our" justice system, does that mean you are criticizing me as a Law Enforcement Officer? I myself criticize our justice system on a regular basis. So, in conclusion I will say it again. Don't take things so personal.
And yet I digress.

yes i said teachers teach our kids but how does teaching them math determine whether or not they become street thugs? That comes from their homelife and poor life decisions. I also don't care for people who stand behind their religion and think it makes them better than everyone else. Im glad your daughter is attending a christian school, i graduated from one..it must make you proud to know she is following in my footsteps.


Also nothing wrong with homeschooling as long as they are taught, i admire people who take that on. my neice is homeschooled and her mother is doing an outstanding job. unfortunatly alot of times that is not the case.

3gr8kids
07-02-2009, 10:09 PM
It's been my experience that you only get out of it what you put into it. Therefore, I've seen teachers that are fighting a losing battle because little Johnny's parents don't lift a finger (or, in this particular case, open a book) to help little Johnny learn what the teachers are trying to teach. Occasionally a "bad" teacher? Perhaps. But one "bad" teacher is not the reason little Johnny is a failure. JMHO.

Oh, and I'm sad the bridge is closed. Where am I going to get my golf cart airborn now???? :lmao: p.s. don't tell kenny at tee time.

JPG
07-02-2009, 11:10 PM
I also don't care for people who stand behind their religion and think it makes them better than everyone else. Im glad your daughter is attending a christian school, i graduated from one..it must make you proud to know she is following in my footsteps.



With statements like that, it unfortunately doesn't appear you got much out of it.


Oh, and I never said I was better than anyone.

I'm done with this...

ftwildernessguy
07-03-2009, 05:24 AM
I learned in Recondo school that it is not tactically safe to cross a bridge, so I always wade through the canal when I go to the Meadows Trading Post. Not worth risking getting blown up to stay dry, so let the golf carts have the bridge.

stacktester
07-03-2009, 07:07 AM
Its very educational to drive across the bridge in a golf cart. It teaches you how to cross water and stay dry. (there now we are on topic and it all ties together):confused3. They should have left the bridge open from a educational point of view.:thumbsup2

You're missing the whole point Mikey. You forgot that it's also beneficial to have a beer in one hand before crossing the bridge. There, now we're back on topic.

VACAMPER
07-03-2009, 07:44 AM
I learned in Recondo school that it is not tactically safe to cross a bridge, so I always wade through the canal when I go to the Meadows Trading Post. Not worth risking getting blown up to stay dry, so let the golf carts have the bridge.

would this make you the troll under thr bridge?

TheGreatGonzo
07-03-2009, 11:41 AM
Not another Troll Bridge! It seems like everywhere you go in Florida you have to stop at the booth and pay another Troll.

AuburnJen92
07-03-2009, 09:04 PM
Wow, what I have missed since my driving in the car and coming to the Fort. We now have trolls under the bridge charging tolls! (as long as he is handing out beer with each toll, I am fine with going around....)

I guess I would not want to be a law enforcement officer in my lifetime. It is just too much effort to be bitter each and every day in my life and only see the negative in everything. I did notice you changed your avatar as well, which explains most everything else of your attitude. The truth does eventually come out. You just have to be patient.


I teach because I want to make the world a smarter and better place. Are you in law enforcement to make us safer or just to condemn others?:confused3

LONE-STAR
07-03-2009, 09:35 PM
You're missing the whole point Mikey. You forgot that it's also beneficial to have a beer in one hand before crossing the bridge. There, now we're back on topic.

This is true and a good point.:thumbsup2 Not sure how I forgot that :confused3 but glad you caught it.:)

bigdisneydaddy
07-04-2009, 06:15 AM
This is true and a good point.:thumbsup2 Not sure how I forgot that :confused3 but glad you caught it.:)

Thats why he is the mayor :thumbsup2