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RyMickey
06-21-2002, 01:26 PM
Saw "Lilo and Stitch" last night. Here's what I thought:

To me, "Lilo and Stitch" is quite a departure from typical Disney animated fare. Although its general theme of family and friendship is reminiscent of Disney classics like "Pinocchio" and "Snow White", "L&S" is irreverent and kooky and is a welcome change to the Disney animated repertoire.

We all know the general plot of the story: alien experiment escapes from his outer space jail, lands on Earth, and befriends a cute little Hawaiian girl. It's true that that's pretty much all there is to the plot. However, I wouldn't expect much more from an animated movie. What makes "L&S" stand out from all other Disney movies is its quirkiness. I'm pretty sure that this is the first Disney movie where you'll see needles being stuck in an alien's head and extracting a pink viscous fluid. I'm also almost certain that you've never seen a Disney movie in which the cute little heroine bites a friend of hers. And then there's the line "Everything's okay...My dog just found the chainsaw" or something to that extent. This ain't your parents' Disney animated movie.

Still, despite (more like because of) the irreverence, "L&S" is Disney's best animated movie since "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" (and I realize that with that statement, many of you will totally disregard this review - what can I say except that I find "HoND" to be so un-Disney that I love it). There is a true sense of character connection with the audience especially with cute little Lilo. The fact that this little girl is not perfect (as compared to the nearly angelic Snow White and Cinderella) allows the audience to relate that much more to her and to her plight of growing up without a mother and father. Raised by her sister, Nani, the struggles that these two face raise sympathy and compassion in the viewer. The fact that the two female characters aren't the perfect body type and figure (as opposed to the stick-thin Belle and Jasmine) also gives them an added authenticity. And then there's Stitch, who arrives on Earth, and in the process wreaks havoc on the sisters. It is true that Stitch is probably the most disgusting main character in any Disney movie (evidenced by the scene where he eats his own snot - just another un-Disney-like moment in this flick), but as the movie continues, the audience begins to connect with this adorable hellion, mirroring the fact that the characters onscreen begin to connect with him as well.

The film looks beautiful. The watercolor backgrounds are stunning. The use of Elvis tunes are not overpowering. They simply add strength to Lilo's character (I for one think one of the best scenes in the movie involves Lilo, slumped on the floor, singing along to "Heartbreak Hotel"). In addition, there's a great Wynonna cover of "Burning Love" that ends the movie perfectly. Voice actors are great. Daveigh Chase (Lilo) and Tia Carrere (Nani) are the true stand-outs.

The only true flaw in the movie is the character of Cobra Bubbles (voiced by Ving Rhames). Reminiscent of a man in black (from the movie "Men in Black") he's the social worker that checks in on Lilo and Nani. Although the character is the impetus of some tension in the household, he really isn't given enough to do for the audience to get any real feeling about him.

"Lilo and Stitch" is a different kind of Disney movie, but this reviewer is ready for the change. Although I long for the days of the classic Disney musical to return (which I don't really see happening anytime soon), I am more than willing to forgo that longing if Disney provides me with films that are as different, enjoyable, quirky, funny, and touching as "Lilo and Stitch."

My Rating: A-

What do you all think? Have you seen it yet? Do you think it's too quirky for kids do enjoy?

RyMickey

Braque
06-21-2002, 01:48 PM
Ry -

Thanks for your 'normal' person's point of view. So many of the 'professional' reviewers, IMO have a certain agenda. I will be taking my family this weekend and look forward to it.

I sure hope it does well!

DisneyKidds
06-21-2002, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the comprehensive review. What do you think of 'L&S' for a 3 year old. Too kooky? Stitch too much of a hellion? Any scary parts (aliens and all, you know)? Or is this a keeper for the entire family?

Thanks again.

RyMickey
06-21-2002, 02:15 PM
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DisneyKidds says:
"What do you think of 'L&S' for a 3 year old. Too kooky? Stitch too much of a hellion? Any scary parts (aliens and all, you know)? Or is this a keeper for the entire family?"
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As I was watching it, I was sort of boggled by the fact that it got a PG rating. I'm not quite sure why it did. There's no offensive language. All Disney movies have a hint of terror in them (Snow White running through the forest is still creepy to me nowadays). Lilo and Stitch really didn't have any of those moments in them. There was nothing scary in it.

Sure, some of the jokes will go over a 3-year old's head, but there's nothing objectionable in it. I must say, though, that I didn't see the movie with any kids. I manage at a theater to help me get through college and we had a special showing for some of the workers. We all thoroughly enjoyed it.

So, in short, I do think that it's a "keeper for the entire family."

RyMickey

hopemax
06-21-2002, 02:28 PM
From what I've read the PG rating was because of the "space battle"...simulated violence, yada yada.

DisneyKidds
06-21-2002, 02:33 PM
Thanks, the DW and DD will be happy to hear that :).

cindyfan
06-21-2002, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the review! :D
I am also curious to hear what other normal DIS folks think!:D
I don't listen too much to "critics"

Anyway, my best friend's daughter took her girls, age 11, 9 and 5 to see it and she was not that thrilled. :(
She felt for the youngest....there were objectional and inappropriate scenes. Such as the fight between Lilo and the other girl and when she bit her. She felt it made the incident seem funny (people were laughing), therefore making the kids think biting someone might be funny! She also felt there was way too much "yelling" between the sisters. Also, there were violent overtones within their family that seemed unnecesary.

I have not seen it and am just repeating what she said. But she also agreed with me about "Shrek".....we both really disliked it!!! So I know we usually feel the same about kids movies.

We plan to see it on Sunday. So I will post my opinion then.

HB2K
06-21-2002, 09:00 PM
I took my 4 year old to see it and he did well....other than crying during the sad parts....EXCELLENT MOVIE!!!

Bstanley
06-21-2002, 09:22 PM
It's ok HB2K, I cried at the sad scenes also - and let's just say I am not 4 years old... :-)

Absolutely wonderful movie.

eeyorefanatic
06-21-2002, 10:17 PM
This movie will make those in car 3 proud.

I love this movie. It was funny, irreverant and the watercolors are beautiful. I will probably see it atleasrt 1 more time in the theaters. I think it will have great crossovera ppeal as well.

RyMickey
06-22-2002, 12:46 AM
A tiny box office update from a manager at one multiplex in Delaware: Lilo and Stitch did very, very well tonight. It did better than Minority Report today. What does that bode for this weekend? Who knows?

Cindyfan - I wasn't a fan of Shrek, either, but I did enjoy Lilo and Stitch as evidenced by my review. I thought Shrek was too "in-the-moment," meaning I think that many of the jokes will be outdated in ten years. Plus, any movie that uses "All Star" by Smashmouth, the most overplayed song of the new millenium, drops a few points in my book.

It is true what your friend said about the movie. There is biting and yelling in it. Personally, I feel that the latter of the two allows Disney to show their most "real" relationship onscreen in a while. These two sisters love each other, but they don't necessarily agree on everything. As for the biting, it is done for comedic effect, but Lilo does get yelled at for doing it.

RyMickey

HorizonsFan
06-22-2002, 07:53 AM
Thanks for the review. I saw it yesterday as well and LOVED it! I think this is the best thing since "Lion King" (didn't really care for HB). I think most people were laughing when Lilo bit the little girl because it exactly mirrors the preceeding scene with Stich biting the Captain (even down to the line, "Does this look infected?") Brilliant! Which leads me to my next point...
The only part of your review I disagree with is this:
We all know the general plot of the story: alien experiment escapes from his outer space jail, lands on Earth, and befriends a cute little Hawaiian girl. It's true that that's pretty much all there is to the plot. However, I wouldn't expect much more from an animated movie.
The plot becomes infinitely more deep when we realize that Lilo and Stitch are in exactly the same position. The plot can be condensed into one statement of dramatic action: It doesn't matter where you're from, we're all the same on the inside and we all need love. Everything in the movie is driven by the dramatic action. There is not one un-needed plot device; they all move toward the same point. This is not just good animation, this is good theatre. Aristotle would have loved this movie...

Liam
06-22-2002, 08:21 AM
I liked the movie well enough but I hope Disney does not stray to much from what makes Disney movies truely Disney. After Atlantis and now Lilo & Stitch, how about getting back to a more traditional kind of film in the likes of Beauty & the Beast or the Lion King. These type of movie is what brought Disney Animation out of the dumps so I hope those in charge don't loose sight of that.

King Triton
06-22-2002, 08:47 AM
I'm going to see the movie tonight. Hey, when you have Hawaiin and Elvis music, you can't lose. I'll be dancing in the aisles.

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King Triton

meowthew2
06-22-2002, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Liam
After Atlantis and now Lilo & Stitch, how about getting back to a more traditional kind of film in the likes of Beauty & the Beast or the Lion King. These type of movie is what brought Disney Animation out of the dumps so I hope those in charge don't loose sight of that.

Yeah, but after ten animated films of the same type it gets a little boring after a while. The public is ready for something different than the same old rehashed epic tale with five Broadway-style musical numbers. If WDA and Disney in general are going to get out of the doldrums they're in right now, they've got to change.

cindyfan
06-22-2002, 10:37 AM
RyMickey, Thanks for the further review and info! :D
I plan to see it on Sunday, so I can add more then.

Do you have kids? From your post it doesn't sound as if you do. Maybe that is where the difference lies in feeling whether it deserves a "G" or "PG" rating.

I am excited about seeing it though and will be taking my DD who is 11.
I will post her opinions too. Maybe then I will also agree about the "G" vs "PG" rating.
Thanks :D

RyMickey
06-22-2002, 07:20 PM
cindyfan - No, I don't have kids. I'm a 22-year-old college student.

Personally, I think that many Disney movies that have received a 'G' rating are incredibly adult and, oftentimes, very frightening. As stated above, I think the scene in "Snow White" where she runs through the forest as the monster-like trees "grab" at her is an incredibly scary moment. Heck, the Evil Queen sends the hunter to kill her and bring back Snow White's heart. Talk about evil and frightening.

This all comes to mind because I was recently watching Snow White with my 5- and 4-year old cousins. They were somewhat jumpy after that whole scene. To me, comparatively, there's nothing in "Lilo and Stitch" that could arouse that same type of nervousness.

RyMickey

airlarry!
06-22-2002, 09:32 PM
Good points, Ry, and it seems that I've read that Uncle Walt liked to put in 'fear' scenes that were intense and a little scary in his features. Movies for the entire family...but there are parts in Alice, Snow White, Bambi, Fox & Hound, Sleeping Beauty, and many other old movies that are dark and foreboding for little kids.

I'm okay with it in an animated feature, although I think they crossed that subtle, hard-to-define line in The Black Cauldron.

disneychic
06-22-2002, 10:29 PM
My DH and I took our niece, and 2 nephews to see Lilo & Stitch today. Their ages are 7, 5 & 3 and we all loved it!
So cute. I did not see the need for the PG rating. infact, we weren't even aware that it wasn't rated G until we left the theater and heard a commercial advertisement on the radio!!
It was adorable and we all enjoyed it. There were a few sad times where my 3 year old nephew asked why Lilo was sad, etc. but nothing upsetting.

Also, alot of other children in the theater seemed to enjoy it also, lots of giggling and clapping at the end.

YoHo
06-22-2002, 11:36 PM
I laughed at the Biting scene partly, because of the preceeding scene, but also, because it's exactly how kids act. This movie was real in a way that is surprising.

Lilo and her sister act like sisters. Its all so real.

And I would suggest that it is Traditional Disney. It is a Strong story with Strong Characters. Not every movie has to come froma hundreds year old fairy tale.

The is an Instant Classic.

Liam
06-23-2002, 09:39 AM
The recent lousy movies is what is bringing disney down, these "changes" people talk about are some, not all of the problem. If people didn't want to see the fairy tale type movies then why are the the highest grossing disney films ever. ( I wish I knew how to take other peoples quotes and put them in my post) I personally liked Lilo & Stitch but I just believe to many "new things" as far as movie concepts, just leads to more bad movies. I believe disney's record over the last few years with animation somewhat proves my point.

cindyfan
06-23-2002, 09:55 AM
I have not seen the movie myself....I just passed on what a friend said. And after I do see it...I might very well agree with you on if it deserved "G" rating vs "PG". :D

Let's remember when "Snow White", "Bambi", "Fox and the Hound", etc came out! There were no ratings back then like there are today. I think quite possibly "Snow White" would have gotten a "PG". But who knows???:confused:
There are many reasons that they put the "PG" rating on a movie. It doesn't have to be just scary!.....they will do it for just one objectional word. Dinosaur got the PG because of the meteor scene being too intense....
Has anyone read why they made this PG???

I am glad to hear that everyone thinks this movie has a "reality" to it!!! :D It is a good thing!!

twinz
06-23-2002, 11:35 AM
I LOVED the movie... I have been waiting so long for it to come out and I was NOT disappointed. I did not go with kids, nor do I have any of my own, but I do work in a daycare and the way Lilo acted towards that girl who she bit...was totally true of some children. I have dealt with alot of biters in my center, and most bite because they are frustrated and don't know how to put their feelings into words, and Lilo was at this point---she was late for the dancing, the got picked on etc etc. I would Pay to see this movie again (which is odd, because I never do). I also think the kids in my daycare would love it as well (they are 3/4 years old).

RyMickey
06-23-2002, 12:58 PM
cindyfan - "Lilo and Stitch" has a PG rating due to 'mild sci fi action.' It is true that it does have 'mild sci fi action,' but I still think that it is on the borderline of the G/PG rating. I think it could have gone either way really.

BTW, 'L&S' came $1.1 million from being in first place this week. According to studio estimates, 'Minority Report' came in at $36.9 million and 'L&S' raked in $35.8 million. That's super in my book.

RyMickey

YoHo
06-23-2002, 04:10 PM
Liam, if Fairy Tales are what it takes, then why did Lion King do so well? It isn't a fairy tale and at worst was taken from a modern Japanese story, at best it was written by Disney.

Or 101 Dalmations, or Bambi, or Dumbo?

Disney makes up its own stories all the time and Dumbo was fairly contemporary for the time it was made.

I put it to you that Lilo and Stitch will become timeless much like the other movies mentioned.

Liam
06-23-2002, 04:24 PM
I was using the term "fairy tale" because another person posting had a comment about how it was good not to see a fairy tale like movie. I think the person who posted this would think that Dumbo, 101, and the others you mentioned had "fairy tale" qualities. Also, I liked L&S, and think I may still be upset with Atlantis, not the worst movie I had ever seen, but who takes their kids to see a disney movie and is happy about it turning into a story of mercinaries who want to kill an entire civilization. Remember, we are taking are children to enjoy these movies and get away from many of lifes horrors. I live in NY and my children have seen enough reality to last decades. What I expect from disney is Fantasy, not reality.

Captain Crook
06-23-2002, 07:02 PM
Lilo & Stitch make you howl with laughter ad cry in their sadness. Some parts may be inappropriate if you're trying to raise your kids in a sterile world bu this movie is about a boken family fighting for existence with the help of a goofy alien.

L&S never stoop to the gutteral lows of Drek and offer complete unabashed entertainment.

I think Horizons Fan and Yoho sum it up. This is an instant classic, the best thing since ion King!
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cindyfan
06-23-2002, 07:37 PM
Well, just got back:D
My 11yo DD and I did really like the movie alot. We were not screaming with laughter, nor were we in tears, but we liked it. It was sad in parts, and we left with a good feeling about Lilo and Stitch finding their family. It did have warm fuzzies that we expect from a Disney film.
I absolutely LOVED the animation. The scenes of Hawaii are beautiful.
BUT.......and I may get flamed by those of you who think it is "the best thing since........"......I just don't see where it will become an instant classic!!??:confused:

There seemed to alot missing.
It was a good while into the film before we could figure out what the deal was with these aliens!!! :confused:
Were they good, bad or just exist!!??
There definitely was no good vs bad. Just alot of identity confusion.
And Stitch was just obnoxious and unlikable right from the start! It wasn't until very late in the movie that you started to see he had a good side.
My DD really felt for Lilo and instantly fell in love with her. But as for Stitch.....Just missing something there!

I do however agree with the PG rating....sorry folks, but the violence and Stitch's display of agression was what did it IMHO.
After seeing it, I had no real objection to the "bite scene". You can understand the frustration Lilo feels!!!

DD and I both like this alot more than alot of recent Disney flicks. But doesn't come anywhere near Lion King or Mulan, or Tarzan even. IMHO!:D

Captain Crook
06-23-2002, 08:47 PM
No flames, but as you know I disagree. As I said elsewhere this made me feel like I did as kid watching Bambi.

I don't feel the pg rating was warranted either as my children certainly know 'biting' etc. isn't proper, but they also already know that some people do behave this way and in the context of the film we all thought it very funny.

You thought a lot was missing and I don't see it. One of my main criteria for how well I like a movie is how fast the time goes, am I looking at my watch or wondeing what's next...This movie flew...It seemed about 20 minutes long to me (vs. Shrek which seemed like 3 days, IMO).

Oh well, different strokes...I KNOW we'll be getting this one for home viewing!!!
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