Family Misses Ship in St. Thomas

[bethsg]

I have been emailing back and forth a good friend who is on the 7 day cruise this week. Today she told me, they left St. Thomas today, and sailed for about 1 hour. The ship then turned around and went back to port at St. Thomas to pick up a family who missed the boat. I was surprised they did that. I thought they would just leave you high and dry.

[trishy]

They don't usually! On the 7/7/01 cruise a family missed the boat (I should say half a family!) and they had to "catch up" with the boat at the next port. How odd! I wonder what the circumstances were.

[ducklite]

Maybe they were on a shore excursion they purchased from DCL that got them back late? I think in that case DCL is responsible for getting them back on the ship, and it might have been cheaper to turn around than it would have been to get them on otherwise.

Anne

[missyb]

The ship returned! Wow I though maybe it would stop and they could take a launch or something.


Does anyone remember I Love lucy when she had to take the helicopter to the ship:D

[mmouse37]

I am also surprised that the ship returned to St. Thomas. That is very unsusal. Could they possibly weild a power stronger than Disney!!!!! Love to know the details!!!

MJ

[plutojudy]

On our April 6 cruise, we left people in St Martin and St Thomas and they were out of luck, we did not return. Maybe the people they returned to pick up were Eisner pals :)

[bethsg]

I have emailed my friend again to see if she has learned why the boat went back. My first thoughts are if DCL went back, then they must have been responsible for these people in some way.

[kplatt]

I do remember the I Love Lucy episode -- hysterical!!

We saw a woman miss the Carnival ship in St. Maarten on our 3/23 Magic cruise. The ship was only several yards from the dock when she ran up and was able to speak to the ship's officer on the bow. We watched as the ship continued away from the pier, slowed (or stopped) a few hundred yards out. The latecomer was taken out to the ship by a small boat, and had to board through a small door in the hull. Not my idea of a good time!!!

Karen
Wonder 11/01
Magic 3/02
Magic 11/02

[Hopkins]

On our April 28th Eastern cruise on the Magic last year, the Magic left guests or cast members behind from St. Martin or St. Thomas, but had sent a life boat to retrieve them. We were still in-site of the island/dock. They hoisted the life boat into position to return the people back to the ship.

Tina:earsgirl:

[mrsltg]

Not to flame, but do you think that people just don't pay attention? I can't understand how you could miss the boat (short of an act of God). But to make matters worse, make the ship stop and/or turn around? Come on! Have some respect for your fellow vacationers! If it's the fault of a DCL excursion, you'd think that the ship would know that they are missing an entire excursion and hold off for a few minutes. I just don't get it.

Oh well!

Erin :D

[wovenwonder]

I remember reading about DCL waiting for a couple who were returning to the ship late. BUT the only reason they waited was the fact that they realized that their kids were in the kids clubs!

So irresponsible!
:(

[Traveliz]

I would agree that they were probably on a shore excursion that didn't get them back to the boat in time.

I know on our honeymoon we were on a cruise and Mark did a scuba diving or something tour purchased through the cruise (not DCL) and was gone for the afternoon.

Well I did this and that and fell asleep and awoke to the boats horns blowing and no Mark. I just about panicked and ran down to the (what do you call the area - the entry area I guess) the big doors and was looking for Mark and they were closing them up. Well then they discovered that not all the shore excursions had yet returned and they reopened and waited -- it was just a few minutes but my heart was beating pretty fast having woken up to the horns blasting and no Mark back yet.

Liz

[mmouse37]

I agree that people must be responsible for their time management while in port. If you are late due to circumstances beyond your control such as late returning excursion, that's one thing....but to just lose all track of time while shopping, etc. is just wrong.

When the ships says it leaving at a certain time, they mean it!! I really want to know why they went back!

MJ

[Señor Ferrari]

There are a lot of factors which determine when a ship has to leave port, not the least of which is whether all of the passengers have returned. On our 12/1/01 cruise, we left a guy in St. Thomas who was late returning to the ship. At the Q&A session with the Captain the next day, one of his friends or neighbors grilled the Captain on why he decided to leave rather than waiting for this one person (whose wife and kids were all on board). The Captain was very straightforward, I thought, and explained himself well.

The ship books the pier well in advance, along with any other ships who will be in port that day. On the day we were there, there were 5 ships in port, 3 at WICO (Havensight), and two at Crown Bay. These ships all request to depart at about the same time. The harbormaster schedules the departures and the harbor pilots based on this. If the Magic decides that it needs to stay alongside the pier longer than scheduled, it would throw off the schedule for all of the other ships trying to exit the port. For example, the pilot who is aboard the Magic may go back in to pilot another ship. If he has to wait, then the next ship has to wait, as well. In addition, I am told that it is very expensive for a ship to remain tied up longer than scheduled. The trip to Castaway Cay is a long one. One of the reasons that the Magic leaves St. Thomas as early as it does is so that it can get to Castaway Cay in time to give the passengers a full day.

There's a big sign on the gangway which explicitly says when the ship will leave, and DCL's attitude seems to be that the other 2000+ people on the ship should not have to have their stay at Castaway Cay cut short because someone doesn't pay attention to when they need to return.

I've often seen passengers taken out to the ship on the harbor pilot's launch, but if they're too late for that, then they appear to be out of luck. I would guess that in the cases where they booked an excursion through the cruise line and miss the ship, that they will go back for them. I suspect that they still need to leave on schedule, but will wait for the harbor to clear and then either send a launch in for them, or arrange to have the pilot's launch ferry them out.

bethsg,

Do you know if the ship actually returned to the harbor, or if it just waited outside for the passenger(s) to be transported back to the ship?

[mrsltg]

I think the word that I was looking for when I posted earlier was "arrogance". It is just plain arrogant to assume that your time is more important than someone else's. On every cruise I've been on, it's been clearly said, posted, and otherwise known what time the ship was leaving port. I have always made sure (as I am sure everyone else here has, or we wouldn't be here!) that I have time to spare when getting back to my ship. Bravo to the ships that sail away waving to the passengers stuck on the pier (because they did something to set themselves up for it).

Again, JMHO!

Erin :D

[bethsg]

Well, the latest email I have gotten from my friend, was she heard, the family was left on St. Thomas with their 2 year. Their 8 year old was left behind on the ship in the kids club.
The thing she pointed out, is that over the loudspeaker, the captain said everyone was accounted for and the ship left the port. Then he came back on and said he made a mistake, and they had left people behind, so they had to go back. The thing people are talking about, is why didn't the computer system work, to let the captain know, people weren't on the ship, not checked by in with their KTTWC.

[Traveliz]

A 8 year old left on the boat certainly adds an interesting twist to the story.

Liz

[peg2001]

Oh my!! I wonder if a new restriction on leaving kids in the club while parents go ashore is likely.

[Michelle]

No, they will not restrict leaving kids in clubs while parents go ashore, I can assure you of that.

It sounds like human error on DCL's part in thinking all were aboard, but the family left onshore still had culpability if they were not back at the ship on time. It's doubtful they were on a DCL excursion if they had a 2-year-old, not many excursions allow kids that young. Sounds like they lost track of time.

[ChiTownZee]

Originally posted by WebmasterMichelle
No, they will not restrict leaving kids in clubs while parents go ashore, I can assure you of that.


Why wouldn't they? It doesn't seem very far fetched to me to not let parents leave their kids on the ship while they go off to shore with no way to be contacted.

[Fawn]

The assumption the party was late may be the wrong one.

Maybe the Captain was told everyone was on board, so they left a little early. When they found out they were mistaken, they had to go back and get the family to avoid "bad publicity" or worse...lawsuit! :(

[ducklite]

Can you imagine the panic those parents must have felt when they got to the dock and the ship was gone?!?!

Oy!

Anne

[Señor Ferrari]

Originally posted by Fawn
Maybe the Captain was told everyone was on board, so they left a little early.

From everything I've been told speaking to both ships' officers and harbor officials, the ship's captain cannot just decide to leave early on his own. Piloting a 1000-foot ship out of a harbor is not an easy proposition, and must be coordinated with the harbor master. Think what would happen if an airline pilot decided to try to leave early? OK, so that's kind of an extreme example, but harbor control works similarly to air traffic control.

This is an interesting story. Usually, the cruise lines have to be pretty rigid in this, but they couldn't very well have left an 8 year-old to fend for his/herself. One of the Magic's first officers once told me that it's fairly common for people to be brought out to the ship by the harbor pilot's launch (on one cruise I was on, it happened at both Key West and St. Thomas), and that it isn't really uncommon for someone to miss the ship. He also said that they usually do not go back for them.

[Michelle]

ChiTownZee, they would not stop allowing people to leave their kids in the clubs on port days because that would mean that parents could not go off on shore excursions (many excursions do not allow young children), and DCL would never make a restrictive policy like that. One of their selling points is their very extensive children's programming and they would not create a policy that is counter to that. They do let parents know the limitations of the pagers while in port and it is up to the parents to decide if they want to leave kids on the ship while going ashore or not.

[opsomyo]

Thanks guys, after listening to this thread, I have decided to purchase a watch.
I don't even own one! Icertainly don't want to be left with my DD5, alone, watching the ship sail out of port.
I am not sure what we are doing in Nassau, I think spending the day on th ship mostly, but I had not eveen thought about a watch. I think it is interesting parents leave their kids on the ship to do excursions & shopping. Mine are 2 & 5. I have a hard time judging what older ones can do but I am nervous just leaving my 5 yr old while I go lay by the pool. At first I didn;t think I would leave her at all. After reading the boards, I have decided she will proboly be safe. I know Disney has to be careful to avoid lawsuits etc but I have never left her with someone other than family. I know I couldn't get off the ship with her still on it. I would be too afraid I would miss it & she would be by herself, how terrible.:(

[SC Minnie]

I think if you try to be on board at LEAST an hour before the ship is scheduled to leave you should be OK.

opsomyo- DD7 BEGGED to stay in the club while we went shopping in St Thomas. We went shopping with us in ST Maarten and discovered it was not her thing. I was glad she stayed on board while we went into town in St Thomas - the streets were very crowded. We were only gone about 2 hours and she was fine.

I would wait and see how your children do in the clubs and then decide whats best for you and them.

[pal2pluto]

Apparently this happens often. When we cruised in January, I stood on deck 4 to watch us pull out of St. Thomas. At the time to leave, we still were in dock, and an announcement came over the system asking for a particular family to make themselves known if they were aboard. About 10 minutes later, a family came running up the dock to the ship. They boarded and we left. Another 10 minutes and a small boat came along side us and let someone else on! It amazes me!

[MFan]

Does anyone know if the late parents who got back onboard the ship with the help of Harbor Master's launch gets fined?

I think DCL should fine them for their "ignorance" and/or "arrogance". The fines can go toward some good cause.

[Señor Ferrari]

Originally posted by MFan
Does anyone know if the late parents who got back onboard the ship with the help of Harbor Master's launch gets fined?


My wife asked this very question to one of the ship's officers after we watched the harbor pilot launch take a family of four out to the Magic in Key West. He laughed and said that if it were up to him, they'd do it, but he doesn't think that it's good business to "fine" your customers, so sadly, the answer is no.

I'll bet that if you cost the cruise line some $15,000 they'll politely suggest that you not cruise with them again....

[inkkognito]

I found it really annoying during the Western that several families were paged numerous times when it was time to leave at every port. At two of the ports, it was while we were trying to sleep. The announcement was piped right into the staterooms, so it kept waking us up. It's a shame that a majority of guests must be inconvenienced because of a few rude people. I saw leave 'em there! Just make sure that they sign an ironclad contract...such a thing must be possible, as the Paradise is still kicking off people who are caught smoking.
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.*****************

[Eglantine Price]

my husband and I cruised around the Hawaiin islands for our honeymoon. The criuse line stated on all their signposts at disembark locations " You must return to the ship one hour before we are scheduled to leave port" They went to great lengths to allow you rent and return cars on the boat, make contact with the shore for reservations etc. They made it abundently clear that late ment , left on shore. It was completely up to you to catch the boat at the next port and that you would encure all costs to get you there. All the shore excursions scheduled through the boat, my husband and I took got us back in plenty of time to make sailing. So much that we had time to have a drink in the ships bar before sailing. I think if disney is getting the folks back to close to sailing time they need to change the excursion list. Part of paying the extra cost of shore excursion organized through the boat is the assurance that someone else is watching the clock while you relax and vacation.

[mmouse37]

Eglantine Price....love your screenname!!! Bednobs & Broomsticks, right?

You are very correct about being back to ship on time. Most cruise lines make you incur the cost if you miss the ship.

MJ

[ruvidu]

These must be the same people who decide to forgo the Lifeboat drills. You then stand on a hot deck with a life jacket wrapped around your neck while they keep calling their names.
We figure they are the same people who at home park in the fire lanes at a store, leave their shopping carts in a parking space, smoke in No Smoking areas and feel it's OK to park in the handicap spaces since nobodys there.:mad:
That's my soap box time.

[WDWLVR]

Ruvidu,

I totally agree with you. Those are also the same people that go into a 15 or less aisle at the supermarket when they clearly have twice that in their cart. They feel the rules are for everyone but them.

[Cruise]

The sad thing is that this is really a catch-22 for Disney now. Of course they can't leave a child onboard without any other family members. However, if word of this gets out, people with no regard for others will start to think "It's okay if we're a few minutes late. They won't leave us because Junior is alone in the club right now."

What Disney should have done is gone back to St. Thomas and then put the child OFF with his parents :)

Julie

[TeamMMouse]

We just got back from this cruise, and yes, it's true we did go back to pick up some people who didn't make it at St Thomas. we we were out of the port for about an hour and then turned back. At Bingo, one of the crew members said that that the parents missed the boat and kids were still on board in Oceaneers. Evidently, these circumstances caused them to go back. It did cause us about an hour delay on arrival at Castaway Cay, altho they made up some of the time. Also, heard (completely rumor) that Disney incurred additional $50,000 in expense, and that this family had to pay $15,000 themselves. We saw the couple on the dock when we went back to pick them up. The guy was flexing his muscles and taking video of the returning ship...so didn't seem too remorseful! It was two adults (male and female) and a child in stroller. However, if anyone else has more info that was on the cruise with us, please let us know. That was the gossip from crew members and other passengers.

[mmouse37]

Taking video to show his friends that he made the Disney ship come back and get him.....makes me ill. If I had caused a ship a delay with thousands of other passengers onboard I would be hanging my head in shame and trying to be as inconspicous as possible!!!

He will get back home and gloat....probably sue Disney for leaving them behind and causing trauma to his child left onboard!!!!


MJ

[JimB.]

At the "Navigators Series" talk on thursday, the day after St. Thomas, the Captain stated that the cost for the turnaround was baout $15,000, not $50k as earlier stated. He also indicated indirectly that the family involved would not be assessed for the money ("I wish we could" was the quote).

Also, the little turnaround put us into Castway Cay about an hour late on Friday. They ran the ship at max speed and made up about 1 of the 2 hours lost.

Additionally, on a personal note, I though the crew was very professional throughout the entire incident, and demonstrated some really nifty seamanship getting the ship in and out of port as quickly as they did. Kind of tough to get 80,000+ tons to move where you need it, but they did a wonderful job of nosing the bow into the dock, getting the people on board, and getting turned around and "out of Dodge".

[Eglantine Price]

Thanks MJ Bedknobs it is, I think I would wish for, at the very least, the cover of darkness.
I think these are the type that leave their kids in the car (with it running) out front of the grocery store, And then scream hystericaly when their car full of laughing children careens out of control through the parking lot .

[Lavne]

I was on the 6/15 cruise where this happened. I was out on the veradah enjoying the sunshine and watching the outlying islands go by, when all the sudden the sun was on the other side of the ship. Didn't think much of it, just figured the ship was changing direction. Then DH came out and said that the captain made an announcement, something to the effect of people being left behind and DCL being such nice guys that they were going back for them. I thought that was quite odd, as I was under the impression that there was no going back.

I stayed out on the veradah and watched as we returned to port. We got just outside of the harbor area and had to idle a bit as the Carnival ship parked that was also in St. Thomas that day pulled out. Then the Magic pulled in to the harbor with a short gangway (Deck 1, I assume) open. As we got closer, we could see it was a man, woman, and small (my guess is 2yo or less) child we were going back for. I don't recall the man videoing the ship's return, but he did drop down on his knees at one point in thankfulness.

The ship actually just pulled up alongside the dock and lowered the gangway to parallel with the water. The family was in the bed of a small pickup truck, and they sort of jumped from the pickup's tailgate to the gangway (no more than a foot apart, if that). As soon as they were on board, the ship headed back out. By then it was just past 6:30, and I'm pretty sure we had originally left just after 4:30, so the whole adventure put us about 2 hours off schedule.

Waiting in line to get Capt. Henry signature the next day, I heard some stuff from a guy who had attended the officer's Q&A, and some that was probably more along the lines of rumor. What I believe to be true was that the reason the ship went back was that the family had left a child in the Oceaneer's Lab (9yo?), and that Disney cannot take the responsibility for a minor child, so they had to go back for the parents. What may or may not have been true was that although the Magic crew was aware of the no-shows, they didn't make the connection to the child being left on board. They became aware when the child made a fuss about her family not having returned. Also, I heard that the family was out on their own, and got stuck in some kind of traffic situation trying to return, making them late.

I never did hear anything regarding why we went all the way back to port instead of having them come out to the ship, at least part of the way. Nor did I hear anything of what that return trip cost DCL.

The next night (sea day) at the show, cruise director Jim did say that it had put us 2 hours behind schedule, but that the Captain had made up about an hour. We weren't able to go ashore on Castaway Cay until somewhere around 10:30, so I guess that other hour never got made up. I heard a few people grumble about their time there being cut short.

[Judgekw]

I was on board that ship too and it really was too bad. I did not realize they cut their sailing times so close. We didn't get to our beach chairs in Castaway Cay until close to 11:00 because of this one inconsiderate family. It really cut into the day and the kids had to make some choices about doing this or that. I was not that upset because I realize some cruises don't even make it to the island due to weather etc. But it does really get to you that a family would be so inconsiderate to be late and leave a child aboard. You know there is traffic and you always arrive early just to be on the safe side. I also wish they had to pay some type of fine or fee and maybe they will think twice next time they chose to be irresponsible. They were not on a shore excursion and no one was injured so there is really no excuse for thier behavior. A lot of people on the ship were saying he was going around like a little celebrity all proud of his status as the "Late guy"

[MFan]

Oh, that's all we need, making them a celebrity of sort. Talk about the ironic lesson being taught here -- don't worry, we'll wait or come back for you if you're an inconsiderate imbecile who inconvenienced everyone else onboard!! :mad: :mad:

I still insist that Disney (and other cruise lines) need to penalize them somehow. Otherwise, they are implicitly encouraging that kind of disruptive behaviour...

[pal2pluto]

what if this person is a DISer and visits this board? What if they are a lurker........:confused:

[MFan]

And...your point is? Why would it matter? He/She/They should know how others felt about their inconsiderate action. I wasn;t on that cruise, but quite a few posters who were have already provided their thoughts on the subject...

If the husband is as judgekw described, I suspect none of these will even remotely bother him.

My position is DCL should impose fine and/or other form of penalty for offenders. Otherwise, they are encouraging this kind of behaviour (it's Parenting 101).

[inkkognito]

Personally, I would think that it's great if they're a lurker, or even a regular, on these boards...let them know how others feel! Of course, I am the kind of person who does not hesitate to speak my mind. I believe in being polite, but not when someone is rude and causing an inconvenience to me. It amazes me that I am usually the only person who will speak up if someone lights up in the non-smoking section of a restaurant or cuts in front of others in a line. If more people spoke up and called rude people on their behavior, I think there would be less of it.
Of course, I like to think that they DON'T read these boards because no one here would do something like that!
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.*****************

[Firefighter Mickey]

What amazes me is that so many people are jumping up here yelling "Hang them!!!" when you have no idea what actually happened in this case, and so far we've not seen very much real data.

You have no idea why these people were late getting back to the ship, but simply assume that they are inconsiderate louts because the ship had to turn around. What if they did everything within their power to return to the ship on-time and simply could not make it back before the ship left?

Isn't DCL the real one at fault here? DCL's computer system should have known that the child was at the kids club and was part of a family that hadn't returned - what's the purpose of checking kids in and out of the club and "logging" in and out of the ship. No, DCL screwed up and for whatever reason left a family stranded at a port, only to realize that they had really screwed up one hour later and in turn cost people 2 hours off of their precious cruise time.

Speaking as a parent, I would consider it punishment enough to get to the dock late after trying my darndest to get there on time, knowing that DCL's policy was to sail at the set time, only to find the ship and my child missing. Not knowing what was going to happen to my family at the port or my child on the ship.

Now, people that clearly abuse the policy of the ship sails at a given time should walk the plank, but in a situation like this, where you have no data to indicate that the people were purposely abusing that policy and in fact have some evidence to suggest that their intent was to not miss the boat....

Well folks, I think you all need to lighten up a little bit and consider what you would feel like if you ever found yourself in a similar situation - and don't tell me you haven't at some point in time found yourself making excuses for being late for an appointment at some point in time.

[4crusinransiers]

Firefighter Mickey you took the words right out of my mouth!

;) Lighten up folks!

[4nana]

I agree w/Firefighter Mickey....
True, we don't know all the details and it could have been a real emergency. IMO just the fact that the ship returned to shore sounds as tho someone was trying to CTA.

[gscott8075]

I certainly am enjoying all of the different opinions. Sure, I've been late for things - but, in all of my travels and many cruises, I have never missed a plane and I have never missed the ship sailing. If there had been an emergency - sure - I would stick up for them in an instant. There were no indications of this at all. Everything pointed to a mis-read of the schedule or bad planning.

I was there and the points are --

1. The guy was videotaping the ship and flexing his muscles. He also got down on his knees and prayed.

2. The guy turned himself / was turned into a celebrity of sorts.

3. The Magic cruised on time - which is 30 minutes after everyone is supposed to be on board. Whether the computer said they were there or not - the ship does not wait. The ship did not leave early.

4. They went off on their own and were not on an excursion. My group of 10 made it from a cab, to a ferry, to St. John, to a cab, to Trunk Bay, back to a cab, another ferry, and another cab. I made it back with 90 minutes to spare. If 2697 people could do it, they could have to. No one else had a problem making it back.
Other folks would have mentioned traffic problems and been affected by them. No one was.

5. As a result, 2697 people lost about 2 hours on Castaway Cay. That's a combined 5400 hours cut out of one of the highlights of the trip.

I think they lost track of time and blew it. We are not talking about 25 - 30 people. We are talking about one couple.

I don't want to hang them - I think they should incur some penalty. The cruise price is high enough without this type of additional expense on Disney's part.

[inkkognito]

gscott8075, you said it very well!!!
I could sympathize if it was some sort of emergency, but the evidence indicates that it was not. True, I've been late to some appointments in my life, but never when I had 2700 other people waiting for me. No sympathy!
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.*****************

[Chris in Boise]

If I were in charge, I would have required Mr. & Mrs. Late to pay $20 for each of the 2,600 or so passengers who were inconvenienced, and put that money as a credit toward everyone's shipboard account.

The amount of the "fine" is about right and the money would benefit the people who were actually hurt by the bozos. :jester:

[Firefighter Mickey]

Oh give me a break. No one was hurt by "these bozos" if that's what they really were.

Since people are determined to be judge, jury and prosecution in this case, I'll bow out now, and wish you all the best of luck should you ever find yourselves in a similar situation.

[Thumper1]

Firefighter Mickey,

Your statement "Oh give me a break. No one was hurt by "these bozos" if that's what they really were." Doesn't show compassion for the others on board the ship.

How would you feel if you were in the other 2600 people's places that lost valuable vacation time because of a couple of obviously late people?

Rules are not made to be broken, but to be kept. That's why there are rules. "Courtesy" is what can make or break a society. Lawlessness can lead to the breakdown of a society. Lack of respect for others is what causes crime of all sort. Believe it or not this is not blowing it all out of proportion. The downfall of society starts with a small spark and ends in anarchy.

Think of the lessons that were taught to all of the children on board - that they can break the rules and get away with it and be made a celebrity because of it.

I have a feeling you might be one of the first to complain if this happened on your vacation.

[gscott8075]

I do not want to be judge or jury - I am merely sharing my perspective. Being late for a port departure is not the same as being late for a dentist appointment.

I am not slamming them or anyone else.

It was an inconvenience. We usually spend the morning with the kids on the family beach and check them into OC for the afternoon while my wife and I go to Serenity Bay. We could not do that this time. Not a huge deal, but we were looking forward to it nonetheless.

[mmouse37]

OMG....I had a nightmare last night about missing the ship and facing the wrath of the DIS!!!! It was really scary!!!

I certainly would do my utmost to make it back on time barring any type of emergency.

MJ

[TnRobin]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This post has turned into a bash party for the people who missed the ship. As stated, no one knows for sure what the circumstances surrounding the missed departure are except the people involved and DCL.

Since this post is providing no additional information; is it helping anyone plan a cruise, and it is now turned into personal attacks on unknown cruisers, I am locking this thread.