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Minuet888
06-05-2009, 01:19 AM
Hi all,
Just got back from a six day trip to DLR. If you have any questions about what is up and running (or what isn't) just ask away! I just about went everywhere and ate a ton of different places (Storytellers Cafe was horrible, Lilo and Stitch's Breakfast was a great surprise).
Ask away!

daisy2jae
06-05-2009, 07:47 AM
was peter pans flight running? how were the crowds?

kailuagirl
06-05-2009, 08:13 AM
what days of the week were the less crowded vs. crowded? How's about times of day, notice any patterns or anything.

Thanks! Hope you had a great trip.

Minuet888
06-05-2009, 10:59 AM
Hi,
Peter Pan was not running, neither was Astro Orbitor.
Monday seemed to be the least crowded although the park was dead for MM entrance on Sunday.

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 11:34 AM
I just got back too, Minuet. I have to say, I thought MM on Sunday was crowded in comparison to MM on Saturday. Tuesday was by far the busiest MM we had. i was really surprised by the difference in crowds between Monday and Tuesday. Tuesday seemed horribly crowded to me.

Another contrast....we ate at Storyteller's twice and it was absolutely fantastic both times. The places that were terrible and we won't be returning to were Goofy's Kitchen and Napa Rose.
~mm

Golfing Goofy
06-05-2009, 12:05 PM
I just got back too, Minuet. I have to say, I thought MM on Sunday was crowded in comparison to MM on Saturday. Tuesday was by far the busiest MM we had. i was really surprised by the difference in crowds between Monday and Tuesday. Tuesday seemed horribly crowded to me.

Another contrast....we ate at Storyteller's twice and it was absolutely fantastic both times. The places that were terrible and we won't be returning to were Goofy's Kitchen and Napa Rose.
~mm


What happened at Napa Rose?

Julylady
06-05-2009, 12:11 PM
Can you both elaborate what made your dining experiences negative? Was it the food? The service? Cleanliness?

Ed J
06-05-2009, 12:19 PM
Interested in the bad grub at napa rose :confused3

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 12:39 PM
For those of you who asked for elaboration.....

I just posted this on the which restaurants you won't be returning to....

We just got home from a 6 day stint at Disneyland. We ate tons of food at a variety of places. Of them all, there are two places we won't be returning to.

First is Goofy's Kitchen. We went for dinner and it was absolutely awful. The food was edible at best. My older son loved the ribs but my younger ones barely touched their food. The pizza looked like it had been sitting out for hours (congealed cheese and pepperoni on cardboard is what it looked like), the macaroni and cheese was super runny, the buns for the hot dogs were crunchy, the chicken nuggets were cold. The "adult" food was hardly any better. The character experience left a lot to be desired. The only two characters there were Captain Hook and Genie. They interacted with each other in funny ways but seriously....only two characters? I can take the bad food for the character experience but it was seriously lacking. The highlight of the night came after my 6 year old daughter was pushed out of the way by all the other kids when Goofy was making a cake. She was literally one of the first ones down (we were seated right next to the buffet area) and kids stormed down and literally pushed her out of the way while the parents watched on. She came back to the table crying. A little bit later, Goofy came over and could see she was upset. He interacted really cute with her and played for quite some time with her. The next time they did an activity, Goofy walked over to our table and led my daughter up by the hand and danced with her. Kudos to Goofy for that but the food left a bad taste in my mouth (literally and figuratively). We won't be back.

The second place is Napa Rose. All I can say is - save your money. I'd heard such great things about it so I was really excited to try it. Our appetizers were good but not amazing like I hoped they'd be. Dh's salad was okay but my soup was nasty. It tasted burnt. YUCK! For entrees, my DH had the pork dish and it was okay but again, nothing spectacular. My ravioli on the other hand was terrible. I had two bites and could eat no more. The flavor could have been good but the consistency of the filling was seriously like a paste. It wasn't creamy, it wasn't chunky....it was like a paste that stuck to the roof of my mouth. I couldn't eat it. I consider myself a foodie. I love food and am always willing to try something at least once. I'm not a picky eater at all. There is very little I don't like. I have never, ever sent a meal back. I have never even wanted to send something back unless it was a steak that wasn't cooked how I asked for it. To me, part of the dining experience is trying new things and if I don't like it, I'll know for next time. This time however, I truly considered sending it back, although I didn't. The service was fine but it wasn't what I would expect from a fine dining experience like Napa Rose. At the very least, the waiter should have asked why I barely touched my meal but he never did. The highlight of the meal was the fantastic bottle of Pinot!

Thank goodness we went several other places that we'll definitely be enjoying again. Can't wait for our next trip.
~mm

wdhinn89
06-05-2009, 12:44 PM
Did you do the breakfast buffet at Storytellers or was it Lunch/Dinner? Why did you not like it?

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 12:59 PM
I think I'll also elaborate on Storyteller's because we had two absolutely FANTASTIC experiences there. It seems like there have been a lot of negative reviews of it lately so I thought I'd share a good one.

We ate dinner there one night (PS at 6:30). My DH and kids all had the buffet. My DH loved everything he had and he's a super picky eater. The food was fresh and the kids thought it was delicious. I had the Lemon Prawns. They were absolutely fabulous. My mom had the Four Cheese Ravioli. I was hesitant to taste it after my experience with ravioli at Napa Rose but it was fantastic. So much better and far cheaper than the ravioli at NR. Another person in our party had the Lobster Cobb. Another delicious meal. I happen to love a good Coob salad and I loved the Storyteller take on it. Delicious. Our service was amazing. We had a fabulous waiter who doted on the kids, brought them all out pins, made fabulous suggestions for wine, talked to us about us and where we are from, how we are enjoying our stay, how he can make it great for us, etc. Overall, a wonderful experience.

We did the character breakfast on our last day in the parks (PS at 10:30). We all did the breakfast buffet and again, it was delicious. My husband had two omelets (the only thing he wished was that they had shrimp for it but it certainly wasn't a deal breaker). They brought us out fresh Mickey waffles that were hot and yummy. All of the food in the buffet was hot and very fresh. The character interaction was great as well. We saw chip, dale, balou, meeko, brer bear, koda, and kenai. Lots of fun interaction with the kids. The service was also fantastic. We secretly hoped to get our same waiter that we had for dinner but we ended up with someone else. She was equally amazing. She brought us all coffee and juice and our glasses never ran dry. The kids got hot chocolate and I think they each had 3 mugs full. When she brought them out, she remembered which kids had whip cream and which didn't. She really was fabulous. When she could tell we were getting ready to go, she brought us all coffee and hot chocolate in to go cups for the park. Seriously - great service.:thumbsup2

~mm

Minuet888
06-05-2009, 01:12 PM
I didn't like storytellers for the breakfast we had there because the food for me and mu DH was awful. The french toast was only thing I thought I would like and it was soggy, I literally picked it up out of a puddle of water.....I think it was water. There was also only one sometimes two characters out.

I went to breakfast at Goofy's kitchen and enjoyed it both food, characters, and everything. I didn't eat at Napa Rose so I can't compare that.

I only did the Magic Morning on Sunday so I can't compare it to any other day we were there (I too was there for 6 days). All I know is I was at the gate at 6:30am as people told me to be and NO ONE was there. We did all of Fantasy land and tomorrow land (Nemo included) in that one hour (plus about fifteen minutes). I guess I was just expecting a bigger crowd. The whole time we were there though Saturday through Wednesday the longest line we had to stand in was Toy story mania and even that was only about 25 minutes (even though the sign said 40)

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 01:21 PM
Funny that we had such opposite experiences at Goofy's and Storytellers.

As for MM.....we got there at 6:30 on Saturday and it was dead....like you said about Sunday. On Saturday, we were able to do all of Fantasyland in about 45 minutes. That included riding the Matterhorn three times in a row. There was no one in line so the CM let us stay on and ride through. On Sunday, we didn't get there until about 6:45 and the lines were pretty long. Longer than they ever got on Saturday. On Sunday, we did all of Fantasyland but it took the full hour. Tuesday was even worse. Regardless, I love MM. It's so nice to feel like you have the park to yourself. We have pictures that have no one in them but us....not a soul in the background. ;)
~mm

Sherry E
06-05-2009, 01:51 PM
It just goes to show that bad reviews of restaurants/meals by guests have partly to do with it being 'off' days or nights at the restaurant, partly to do with the staff and quality of food that given night, what each person's individual preferences in a meal or character meal are, and largely to do with overall individual perception and interpretation of the experience.

I LOVE Goofy's Kitchen (though I always recommend breakfast over dinner) and I like Storytellers well enough to go back there again (though it does seem that Storytellers' service and food quality have taken a very sudden nosedive in just the last few months according to several people, so I am thinking....new chefs and staff, maybe?:confused3). Rainforest Cafe is loved by some; hated by others. Other people love Cafe Orleans, some folks dislike it. Blue Bayou is a big hit with many folks, not so much with other people. Some folks hate Naples. Others of us like it. Sometimes what one person thinks is bad food is GREAT to someone else. I would not eat at Napa Rose because it is just not my kind of dining experience, but I have never heard anyone really give it a bad review. Most folks (guests and critics) love it.

Frankly, if we all made a note of every restaurant that anyone ever had a problem with on the DIS and decided not to eat at those places - none of us would be eating anywhere in Disneyland Resort at all! They would lose all of their dining business. That's the truth! All we can do is read the 'reviews' and opinions, take them into consideration, realize that any number of factors could have gone into those opinions and those experiences, decide where we would like to eat and then ultimately decide for ourselves whether we liked it or if it was worth it. It is all a very personalized thing, I think.

blackjackdelta
06-05-2009, 02:16 PM
It just goes to show that bad reviews of restaurants/meals by guests have partly to do with it being 'off' days or nights at the restaurant, partly to do with the staff and quality of food that given night, what each person's individual preferences in a meal or character meal are, and largely to do with overall individual perception and interpretation of the experience.

I LOVE Goofy's Kitchen (though I always recommend breakfast over dinner) and I like Storytellers well enough to go back there again (though it does seem that Storytellers' service and food quality have taken a very sudden nosedive in just the last few months according to several people, so I am thinking....new chefs and staff, maybe?:confused3). Rainforest Cafe is loved by some; hated by others. Other people love Cafe Orleans, some folks dislike it. Blue Bayou is a big hit with many folks, not so much with other people. Some folks hate Naples. Others of us like it. Sometimes what one person thinks is bad food is GREAT to someone else. I would not eat at Napa Rose because it is just not my kind of dining experience, but I have never heard anyone really give it a bad review. Most folks (guests and critics) love it.

Frankly, if we all made a note of every restaurant that anyone ever had a problem with on the DIS and decided not to eat at those places - none of us would be eating anywhere in Disneyland Resort at all! They would lose all of their dining business. That's the truth! All we can do is read the 'reviews' and opinions, take them into consideration, realize that any number of factors could have gone into those opinions and those experiences, decide where we would like to eat and then ultimately decide for ourselves whether we liked it or if it was worth it. It is all a very personalized thing, I think.


Great summation!

Jack

teatime
06-05-2009, 03:06 PM
my questions ........ where are the pictures of the meals you ate ? We want food porn !!!!!!!!

Sherry E
06-05-2009, 03:25 PM
Great summation!

Jack

:goodvibes:thumbsup2

carolannec
06-05-2009, 04:10 PM
How was the weather??? Shorts and t-shirts/tank weather?(we live in the mojave desert which has been in the mid 90's for quite some time).

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 06:34 PM
It was overcast (June Gloom) the whole time we were there. There was consistently a cool breeze but it wasn't ever cold. We wore tanks and shorts most of the time but always had a jacket or sweatshirt with us. Coming from the mojave desert, I would think it would be on the chilly side for you.

Minuet888
06-05-2009, 06:34 PM
Weather was cloudy but not too cold in the morning, Tuesday the clouds parted and it got pretty warm, it was a bit cold and raining on Wednesday.

MaiynaMouse
06-05-2009, 06:45 PM
Sherry - I totally agree. I didn't post in an effort to deter anyone from eating at the places I had bad experiences. Someone asked for my opinion so I gave it. Simple as that! I'd heard many terrible things about Storyteller's and went anyway. It ended up being my favorite place. To each their own.
~mm

blackjackdelta
06-05-2009, 07:04 PM
Sherry - I totally agree. I didn't post in an effort to deter anyone from eating at the places I had bad experiences. Someone asked for my opinion so I gave it. Simple as that! I'd heard many terrible things about Storyteller's and went anyway. It ended up being my favorite place. To each their own.
~mm

You did what you were asked to do. We have never been to GK and had less than 6-8 characters. Both times we have been to Storeytellers twice and it was "BAD". We will try again in August, the only month we can go. We never do off season just for the fact that too many things are not up to speed.NR has always been top notch.
Hope you have a better experience next time.

Jack

Sherry E
06-05-2009, 07:04 PM
Sherry - I totally agree. I didn't post in an effort to deter anyone from eating at the places I had bad experiences. Someone asked for my opinion so I gave it. Simple as that! I'd heard many terrible things about Storyteller's and went anyway. It ended up being my favorite place. To each their own.
~mm

Oh, I completely understood - I know you were just sharing your own experience. I always am endlessly fascinated by the whole phenomenon of how certain restaurants at DLR get horrible reviews by some and rave reviews by others! It is so wild how two groups of people can have totally different experiences at the same place. It both equally interesting and amusing to me! And luckily, you did keep an open mind about Storytellers and ended up enjoying it so it worked out great for you! It sounds like they had more characters than they usually have 'on duty.' I wish our OP, Minuet888, had the same experience there too.

Oh and by the way, I am not sure where the rest of the characters at Goofy's were that night you were there (the regulars are Goofy, Pluto, Chip, Dale and Baloo, and then there is normally a Princess or two wandering around, and maybe some others), but I can tell you that Genie and Captain Hook are not necessarily always there. Seems like they have been showing up more often this year according to some reports, but not last year. In fact, I have not personally seen Genie at Goofy's since about 1994:scared1: and I haven't seen Hook there since 2001! So I guess what they lacked in quantity of characters on the night you ate there was made up for by the quality of characters! (That is one way to spin it!;))

Sherry E
06-05-2009, 07:14 PM
Weather was cloudy but not too cold in the morning, Tuesday the clouds parted and it got pretty warm, it was a bit cold and raining on Wednesday.

Minuet888 - I almost forgot to ask you (which was the whole point of your thread - to ask you questions about your trip!) - did you get any PhotoPass pictures taken? You reminded me of that when you mentioned using the MM and having no other people in your photos during that time. I just said that on someone else's thread the other day - they were going to have 3 days with MM and were not sure if they should use them all, and I suggested that even to use one of the MM days for the photographic opportunities alone would be worth it. You can snap pictures of things during that time that you don't have easy access to during the rest of the day because it is too crowded. It is a fabulous time to capture the little details and things of DLR on camera. And I found when I used the MM last year, some of the PhotoPass people were already out and that came in really handy to get uncluttered, nice pictures.

Also, you mentioned that the TSMM line sign said 40 minutes but it took about 25 - I totally agree with that. That TSMM line looks more ominous than it is, and the sign is sometimes misleading. I have always found that we get onto the ride in about 25 minutes, sometimes even less. They really keep things moving at a rapid clip!

Which characters were at Goofy's when you were there? The standard Goofy, Chip, Dale, Baloo ad Pluto bunch, or did you get some guest stars too? I really like their food a lot - so many choices and the bacon and fruit at the breakfast/brunch buffet is FANTASTIC!!! I think it is some of the best bacon and fruit I have tasted.

Anyway, it sounds like you had a great time! Will you do an official Trip Report with pictures for us?

Minuet888
06-05-2009, 08:08 PM
Hi!
I a not sure how to do an official report (or post photos) Do I put the report in a certain place? I will try to remember everything we did for those days.
At Goofy's Kitchen there were Goofy, Pluto, Chip and Dale, Baloo, and a couple more.
We took 28 photo pass pics from both DL and DCA. My son doesn't do photo pass pics well as he has a hard time with eye contact.
Something really nice I have to say though:
I have to say the characters were very patient with my son. As I have mentioned before he is autistic. He was very particular in the way he acted with the characters. If he didn't know who the character was (Like Rafiki or Brother Bear because he hasn't seen those movies) then forget it he would hide behind me or my husband. WIth characters he knows like the Mickey gang and Winnie the Pooh we would start out with a wave, then Tyler would play peek-a-boo with the character from a far and slowly inch his way towards them. We then went to a high five, to a hug to a pic. There was one character though that he always ran straight to for a hug (and a kiss) which was Minnie Mouse, I think my son has a crush on Minnie Mouse.
The princesses were also nice at Ariel's Grotto and knew who he was before they got to our table. We have a friend there that works as the Royal Page/Herald and told the princesses about him. Jasmine was particularly nice and really seemed to know how to deal with someone like my son. She tried finding a common ground with him like asking him about the color of her outfit and stuff like that. My son ended up flirting with her and gave her a hug too.

My son got picked to talk to Crush (he only raised his hand because everyone else was) he told Crush he wanted to go "wimming" (his word for swimming). and then started to sing Eee-i-ee-i-no. We keep trying to tell him it's ee-i-ee-i-OO but he doesn't believe us.

Sherry E
06-05-2009, 08:54 PM
Hi!
I a not sure how to do an official report (or post photos) Do I put the report in a certain place? I will try to remember everything we did for those days.
At Goofy's Kitchen there were Goofy, Pluto, Chip and Dale, Baloo, and a couple more.
We took 28 photo pass pics from both DL and DCA. My son doesn't do photo pass pics well as he has a hard time with eye contact.
Something really nice I have to say though:
I have to say the characters were very patient with my son. As I have mentioned before he is autistic. He was very particular in the way he acted with the characters. If he didn't know who the character was (Like Rafiki or Brother Bear because he hasn't seen those movies) then forget it he would hide behind me or my husband. WIth characters he knows like the Mickey gang and Winnie the Pooh we would start out with a wave, then Tyler would play peek-a-boo with the character from a far and slowly inch his way towards them. We then went to a high five, to a hug to a pic. There was one character though that he always ran straight to for a hug (and a kiss) which was Minnie Mouse, I think my son has a crush on Minnie Mouse.
The princesses were also nice at Ariel's Grotto and knew who he was before they got to our table. We have a friend there that works as the Royal Page/Herald and told the princesses about him. Jasmine was particularly nice and really seemed to know how to deal with someone like my son. She tried finding a common ground with him like asking him about the color of her outfit and stuff like that. My son ended up flirting with her and gave her a hug too.

My son got picked to talk to Crush (he only raised his hand because everyone else was) he told Crush he wanted to go "wimming" (his word for swimming). and then started to sing Eee-i-ee-i-no. We keep trying to tell him it's ee-i-ee-i-OO but he doesn't believe us.

Okay, first of all - about Trip Reports. Post your TR's over in the Disneyland Trip Report section of the board, which is here: http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27. You will see everyone's TR's and you can get a sense of what kinds of things are in them.

As for posting pictures, there are a couple of different ways to do it, but to me, it seems the easiest one is by using Photobucket. If you don't already have a Photobucket account, they are totally free! So you start an account, begin uploading your pictures right away. You can choose which size you want to upload them in - which you will see when you get in there - and that will determine how big the photos appear in your posts here. Once you have uploaded your pictures, you will notice that each photo has its own series of codes located either underneath or to the right of each picture. The only code you want is the one that says "IMG," which is usually the fourth code down, or the very last one. Simply click on the IMG code/link and highlight it, then Copy (Ctrl C) and paste (Ctrl V) the entire link right into your post or your Trip Report here in the DIS! Don't leave out any part of the code/link. Copy the whole thing, or the pictures won't appear. It's easy! Give it a try!

Your son sounds like he is precious! "Wimming!" How adorable! And he took quite a liking to Minnie and Jasmine, and chatted with Crush!! He must have been so thrilled. And you tell him not to worry because there are plenty of adults who have no clue who Koda and Kenai from Brother Bear are either, so he is not the only one who doesn't recognize them!!

It sounds as if you guys did all the character meals - how fun! I always wish I could squeeze in more than one per trip, but is hard to convince whoever I am with of that because the prices are so high, so we stick with what we KNOW we love, which is Goofy's. My friend is willing to pay for that because she loves it. If we went somewhere and she didn't like it and had to pay $$$, it would be toruble for me!!! But in December 2007, we did both Goofy's and Storytellers in one trip and I think my friend would prefer another place where we could order off the menu IF we are going to do another character meal at all. So I am thinking that the next multi-day trip will be Goofy's and Lilo and Stitch. Eventually I will coax her over to Minnie and Friends (she likes Pooh characters so that should be enough), but neither one of us cares about Princesses so we won't be doing Ariel's any time soon, I don't think!

Minuet888
06-05-2009, 09:47 PM
We did do all the character meals.
Ariel's was by far the most expensive (we did lunch there) so we used our meal plan voucher there.
I loved Lilo and Stitch's, we practically had the place to ourselves. I thought the food was great, Lilo, Stitch, Goofy and Minnie were all there and I thought the place was themed really well from the music, decorations, to even the food. I believe the price was about the same as Goofy's Kitchen (we did breakfast at both Goofy's and Lilo's)

dara00
06-06-2009, 11:36 PM
Funny that we had such opposite experiences at Goofy's and Storytellers.

As for MM.....we got there at 6:30 on Saturday and it was dead....like you said about Sunday. On Saturday, we were able to do all of Fantasyland in about 45 minutes. That included riding the Matterhorn three times in a row. There was no one in line so the CM let us stay on and ride through. On Sunday, we didn't get there until about 6:45 and the lines were pretty long. Longer than they ever got on Saturday. On Sunday, we did all of Fantasyland but it took the full hour. Tuesday was even worse. Regardless, I love MM. It's so nice to feel like you have the park to yourself. We have pictures that have no one in them but us....not a soul in the background. ;)
~mm

you can get in that early? I thought it was only an hour before the park opened? (oh, did the park open at 7:30?)

Minuet888
06-06-2009, 11:50 PM
No we got in the park at 7am but I was told by some people that it can get crowded so get to the gates at 6:30am which we did. Sorry for the confusion.

dara00
06-06-2009, 11:55 PM
that's ok, I was just confused since for us the park opened at 9. sounds like it was great so empty for you!

BrerMama
06-07-2009, 12:01 AM
We're here now, and I just wanted to update that Peter Pan is open, and Snow White is already closed. :)

dara00
06-07-2009, 12:03 AM
when we were on snow white last week it stopped in the middle and we had to walk off! very strange. are they refurbishing?