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dvcdisney
06-01-2009, 01:50 PM
There have been some discussion about the new ADRs booking window of 90 days +10 for onsite guests and 90 days for offsite guests. I was curious to know where DVC members stand on this.

I thought a poll would be interesting. Essentially the poll is to determine whether people prefer the current 90 days or 180 days or neither. In the issue of focusing this poll on the difference between 90 days and 180 days (and neither), I am not adding the option of the +10 days in the poll. I know a few have opinions about whether there should even be a +10 days for onsite guests. But I think this is a separate issue.

Please keep in mind that I understand some would like other options such as 60 days, or 240 days. However, I would like to find out, if given a choice, which would you choose between the two. Otherwise, you can choose Neither.

Please note that this is a PUBLIC POLL. You will be listed beside your choice.

Thank you for all your votes. :)

TIGGERmetoo
06-01-2009, 02:30 PM
I voted for 90 days because I like to see the park hours schedule before I make my ADR's.

DebbieB
06-01-2009, 02:35 PM
I voted 90 days. I don't know where I want to eat 6 months in advance, especially with no park hours. As a long time member, I am no longer a compulsive planner.

mooneyda
06-01-2009, 02:42 PM
I too voted for 90 days for I like to in advance what the park hours are going to be but it does not stop me from researching 180 days out so when I have the extra 3 months to finalize where I want to eat.

DISNEY FIX
06-01-2009, 02:46 PM
I voted for 180 because the specials Disney has aren't out typically 180 days in advance(free dining for example). So I am not dealing with the additional crush of 4/3 people type idea. It sounds reasonable to me. I don't remember all this hating on free dining last year, about adr's.

bobbiwoz
06-01-2009, 03:52 PM
90 days out has worked for us, so if that's the way it will stay, it's fine with me.

Bobbi:goodvibes

JimC
06-01-2009, 04:05 PM
90 days is plenty of time and reduces the likelihood of changes to dining reservations. What is most helpful is Disney releasing solid park hours, parades and fireworks information at that point.

robandkelly13
06-01-2009, 04:11 PM
I'm all planned by 180 days, so I'd like to be able to make my ressies early. This way I don't have as much time to stress over it.

WeLoveAriel0505
06-01-2009, 04:19 PM
Voted for 180 because I'm a planner and should get some additional benefit for that............IMO.

Tara
06-01-2009, 04:58 PM
I voted for 90 days because I like to see the park hours schedule before I make my ADR's.

I voted 90 days. I don't know where I want to eat 6 months in advance, especially with no park hours. As a long time member, I am no longer a compulsive planner.

These are my reasons. AND I think that the 180-day window with no park hours leads to a lot of double booking, which isn't helpful.

And I say this as a reformed over-planner. ;)

quirty30
06-01-2009, 04:59 PM
How about 180 days for DVC members, 90 + 10 for onsite resort guests & 90 for offsite? :laughing:

Mickey'sApprentice
06-01-2009, 05:13 PM
how about 2 weeks out

I'd like to make adrs for the entire trip, 1 week before I leave home.

bama106
06-01-2009, 05:25 PM
I voted for the way it was before, 180 days out. We like to plan way ahead, it worked for us before.

Tara
06-01-2009, 05:28 PM
I voted for the way it was before, 180 days out. We like to plan way ahead, it worked for us before.

Isn't 90 days the way it was before the way it was before? (i.e., I thought in the late 90s it was 90 days for most, 120 for some - it was kind of all over the map then)

dvcdisney
06-01-2009, 06:44 PM
Isn't 90 days the way it was before the way it was before? (i.e., I thought in the late 90s it was 90 days for most, 120 for some - it was kind of all over the map then)

It was 180 days before it changed recently. But it was, I believe, 90 days before it changed to 180 days and before that, I believe it was 60 days. Before that, I'm not quite sure.

So....

(not sure what it was) -> 60 days -> 90 days -> 180 days ->90 days (Currently)

FOTM_Ring_Bearer
06-01-2009, 06:59 PM
90 days is plenty of time and reduces the likelihood of changes to dining reservations. What is most helpful is Disney releasing solid park hours, parades and fireworks information at that point.

I agree. I like knowing the park schedules before I start making reservations.

ccigliano
06-01-2009, 08:29 PM
OK - so I voted for 180 because I think that we DVC planners had a better shot at getting the Chef Mickey's and Le Cellier ressies that we wanted since most people aren't planners like we are and so most people don't even know they're going to Disney 180 days out. Non DVCers tend to plan their vacation inside the 6 month window giving us the advantage at the 6 month mark. Now we are all (DVC and cash ressies) trying to make ressies at the same time and no longer have an advantage. I just talked to friends over the weekend who could not get Hoop De Doo and Chef Mickey's for the times they wanted nor could they get Le Cellier at all and they called at the 90 day mark. I think that the situation has also worsened with free dining as even more people are dining inside the parks and resorts.

ParrotBill
06-01-2009, 09:17 PM
I also voted for 90 days because I like to know the park hours... but that hasn't worked out so well for September.... and it would work better for everyone without free dining, which I hate for gumming up all restaurants leaving absolutely no flexibility in our scheduling late August. (We are DVC with APs and Tables in Wonderland.)

ead79
06-01-2009, 09:27 PM
I preferred the 180 day window because there didn't seem to be nearly the ADR availability problem then that there is now at the 90 day window. My guess is that fewer people were willing to plan a full 180 days out, so the ADRs were easier to come by with such a large booking window. Any way you slice it, I hope Disney is able to figure out a way to make getting ADR's at Le Cellier, a Fantasmic dinner package, or dinners at 'Ohana easier/more fair. It really stinks even more if you're going on a short trip because the +10 window might ruin your shot at getting any of the highly sought after ADRs completely.

DiznyDi
06-01-2009, 09:41 PM
I don't know what I want to eat for dinner tomorrow let alone 60, 90 or 180 days out!

My preference is the current 90 days to co-ordinate the restaurants we would like to eat at with parks and their schedules.

However, I really would like to see it the way it was years ago when we would make our dinner reservations on the way into the park at stations set up specifically for that purpose.

zulaya
06-01-2009, 09:49 PM
While I do agree that the 180 days did make for more availability to us planners, I think even 90 days is exorbitant to some extent.

Honestly, I'd really like it if I did not have to decide my exact dining schedule 90 days out.

The planner in me is screaming, but it's just becoming more and more of a pain to plan meals so far in advance.

I'd really prefer if we only had a 2 week window. Or at most, 30 days.

I think that really would cut down on all the double booking that is not legit. That is what I am sick of reading about. People who double book and then because they do it so far in advance, they either forget to call and cancel or they just don't care to cancel and no one who really wants that particular ADR can snag it.

M5ward
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
I voted for the 180 day window. I plan my trips anywhere from seven to eleven months in advance which is usually prior to Disney announcing any promotions. I don't like having to compete for ADRs during a free dining promo when I have been ready to make reservations well before the 90th day. I prefer to plan my park time around my ADRs.
I would even be happy with a 120 day window...just don't like having to join in the frenzy that some of the promotions seem to provoke.
I'd also be in favor of requiring credit cards to guarantee ADRs at TS restaurants which would cut down on double booking.

BeccaG
06-02-2009, 01:42 AM
So I voted neither. As much as I am a planner, I kinda like not having the pressure to decide where I want to eat so far in advance. On vacation, I like to go with the flow more, and it seems the park commandos (which is not a knock since that is how I use to vacation) benefit with the 90 or 180 day windows. So while I normally am a planner, and I have no problem with the booking windows either way . there is a part of me that wishes it was even shorter and that they held some seats for those who wanted to make ressies while they were there. . which is what I did on my honeymoon. . .Call it one of the positive ways my husband has changed me.

crisi
06-02-2009, 08:07 AM
I voted 90, but really don't care. I'm not someone who has ever had a disappointing vacation due to the lack of an ADR. At this point, we go to Disney often enough (and less than a lot of you) that we've done many of the things we want to do. I'm not someone who really cares for hassle. And if we end up eating at Yachtsman rather than Le Cellier or at Artist's Point instead of California Grill, not a big deal.

Frankly, I'm at Disney - most of the food has become a step above lousy - does it matter where I eat my not quite lousy food?

Starr W.
06-02-2009, 08:16 AM
I don't know what I want to eat for dinner tomorrow let alone 60, 90 or 180 days out!

My preference is the current 90 days to co-ordinate the restaurants we would like to eat at with parks and their schedules.

However, I really would like to see it the way it was years ago when we would make our dinner reservations on the way into the park at stations set up specifically for that purpose.

:thumbsup2, I sometimes have trouble with tonight's dinner, let alone 180 days out.

As long as it works with when the park schedules come out, I'm fine.

I don't feel my vacation is "ruined" if I don't get a particular ADR. I'll catch the place next trip.

My boys are a bit older and really have never cared that much for characters at there meals.

yasuern
06-02-2009, 08:43 AM
Okay voted neither

Would probably prefer 90 days not 90 +10 because the DVC ressie doesn't show in the ADR,specialty cruises etc. reservations systems so DVCer can't use the +10 unless you call MS - which opens 2 hours after the regular reservations open - so if you are looking for a Fantasmic package others have had 2 hours to book for days throughout their whole vacation prior to DVCers being able to use this same option(the +10)


IMHO


Sue:goodvibes

Inkmahm
06-02-2009, 08:51 AM
I voted for 90 days because I like to see the park hours schedule before I make my ADR's.

I liked the 180 days, especially when the park schedule WAS out by that point so I could check my choices against the schedule before making ADRs.

gk90
06-02-2009, 08:59 AM
I voted for the 180 day window. I plan my trips anywhere from seven to eleven months in advance which is usually prior to Disney announcing any promotions. I don't like having to compete for ADRs during a free dining promo when I have been ready to make reservations well before the 90th day. I prefer to plan my park time around my ADRs.
I would even be happy with a 120 day window...just don't like having to join in the frenzy that some of the promotions seem to provoke.
I'd also be in favor of requiring credit cards to guarantee ADRs at TS restaurants which would cut down on double booking.

Totally agree! After spending hours on the phone 2 weeks ago because the 1st day of our stay happened to be the 1st day of Free Dining, I voted 180 days, but really, 120 or even 110 would be fine. All I want is a few days advantage--the telephone situation was truly horrendous 90 days out before Free Dining. :headache: :mad: :furious:

epcotwanderer
06-02-2009, 09:03 AM
I don't know what I want to eat for dinner tomorrow let alone 60, 90 or 180 days out!

My preference is the current 90 days to co-ordinate the restaurants we would like to eat at with parks and their schedules.

However, I really would like to see it the way it was years ago when we would make our dinner reservations on the way into the park at stations set up specifically for that purpose.

You and I both!

Laurabearz
06-02-2009, 09:22 AM
I remember the days of being in line for splash mountain in the morning and being able to call disney dining and have a selection of places you could dine for lunch.

Then free dinning and the dining plan bleh

PS's were forever 90 days then they changed them to 180 out which was good if you wanted a hard to get restaurant, but bad if you cared about park hours.

Honestly for our upcoming vacation I only made two ADR's for the 9 day trip.

Elise79
06-02-2009, 09:42 AM
I voted 180 days - I liked that :goodvibes

I also noticed a lot of people saying they want 90 days so they park info but didn't Disney used to release hours at 180 days too? I am sure when I was booking my September 2007 ADR's at 180 days that I had park hours too. :confused:

Mickey'sApprentice
06-02-2009, 10:59 AM
I voted 180 days - I liked that :goodvibes

I also noticed a lot of people saying they want 90 days so they park info but didn't Disney used to release hours at 180 days too? I am sure when I was booking my September 2007 ADR's at 180 days that I had park hours too. :confused:

I know that Disney did have park hours out at the 180 day mark in '05 and '07 when we were there. Getting ADRs at 180 days, or even 120 days was not really a problem.

I do remember years ago, there being kiosk at Epcot that would allow you to make lunch/dinner reservations as you came into the park in the morning. We only used that once or twice because we were young broke newlywed theme park commandos.

I really like that idea, or better yet...some kind of interactive reservation system inside our rooms, that would show what restaurants are available at what time. That way I could figure out where I want to go sometime during the trip, and be able to decide for myself if I'd rather go to Ohana at 9:30 or Whispering Canyon Cafe at 5:30.

dvcdisney
06-02-2009, 11:34 AM
I also noticed a lot of people saying they want 90 days so they park info but didn't Disney used to release hours at 180 days too? I am sure when I was booking my September 2007 ADR's at 180 days that I had park hours too. :confused:

I also remember Disney also releasing the hours at 180 days also. :)I was always able to go over my ADRs with the Park hours before my 180 days window opened up.

Anal Annie
06-02-2009, 01:08 PM
I despise being forced to make ADR's & I think 30 days out is too much let alone 180 so I voted in the minority of neither!! But 90 days is much more reasonable if there has to be one or the other. They don't even publish the park hours or Fantasmic dates beyond 90 days any more (it did used to be 6 months). How could you possibly plan when & where you'll be?

I was really frustrated planning for our trip in August - mostly because Free Dining coincidently starts on the day we go so I had to compete with all those people - I was on hold for 1 hr. & 48 minutes!! All the Fantasmic dates were booked already by the time I got thru with the exception of only one date, one time and one restaurant (3:40 in the afternoon at the Brown Derby). NOT what I was hoping for. They also now restrict you to one ressie per dining time slot per day. Even being the obsessive planner that I am I don't know when & where I'm going to be, so I still made 2 ressies for dinner at Tony's Town Square on 2 diff. days and 2 ressies for Tusker House lunch on 2 diff. days and San Angel Inn once for lunch & once for dinner on 2 diff. days simply because I don't know when & where I will be yet. So you've still got some of us who overbook just because it's the only way to be sure you'll have a ressie. I would much prefer to wait until we're there to have an opportunity to decide. I don't want to plan my park days around my meals. I should be able to plan my meals around my park time. JMO.

goofy4tink
06-02-2009, 01:33 PM
Okay voted neither

Would probably prefer 90 days not 90 +10 because the DVC ressie doesn't show in the ADR,specialty cruises etc. reservations systems so DVCer can't use the +10 unless you call MS - which opens 2 hours after the regular reservations open - so if you are looking for a Fantasmic package others have had 2 hours to book for days throughout their whole vacation prior to DVCers being able to use this same option(the +10)


IMHO


Sue:goodvibes
I've never had an issue booking the 90+10 when staying DVC. Have I just gotten lucky??
In any case...back in '99, it used to be 60 days. Then it changed to 90 days. Then to 180 days, now it's back to 90 days. Yes, it was easier to get those harder to get ADRs with the booking date at 180 days..especially for those of us who planned that far ahead. Even without knowing park hours, I still booked my ADRs..then did the parks accordingly. If there was a park that had hours that made me want to be there vs in the park where I had ADRs, then I would call and make new ADRs and cancel the 'bad' ones. I seldom had an issue.
But now that Disney isn't releasing park hours until the 3 month mark,and sometimes less than that, it makes more sense to keep the ADR booking dates consistent with the park hour release.

Paticake
06-02-2009, 06:01 PM
I voted for 90 days. Seems when I did the 180 I always needed to tweak them a bit as the time got closer. I did my ADRs at the 90 day mark in March for our upcoming June 27th vacation and got everything I wanted CM, CP, 2 for Le Cellier (one for DH and me to celebrate our 35th anniversay) (one for DD and DSIL to celebrate their 4th annivesary) and Wolfgang Puck upstairs dining room.

Maistre Gracey
06-02-2009, 06:21 PM
I'm not sure why 180 would be an advantage.. I mean, as long as it's the same for everyone (on site guests), does it really matter?

It seems as though 90 would be a bit better, as everyone's plans will be more firm. Heck, at 180 days out we're still not sure if other family members are joining us..

MG

crisi
06-02-2009, 06:22 PM
I voted 180 days - I liked that :goodvibes

I also noticed a lot of people saying they want 90 days so they park info but didn't Disney used to release hours at 180 days too? I am sure when I was booking my September 2007 ADR's at 180 days that I had park hours too. :confused:

I was usually using historical hours from someone else's site. Disney hadn't released theirs - or perhaps hadn't released them with the "Spectro/Halloween Party/EMHs" marked in.

Even when they do release park hours, hours are subject to change - we've had them change mid-trip. Last year was the year Fantasmic went from every night when park hours were released to a few times a week by the time we took our trip.

*KeepMovingForward*
06-02-2009, 06:26 PM
I voted for 180. We're always planning a year in advance and its just what I'm used to. I like to have all my vacation details nailed down well in advance.

bigsmooth
06-03-2009, 12:47 AM
I preferred 180 days just because I usually have the trip planned out at 180 days. But to be honest, I'm fine with 90 days. Our ADR requests tend to be not that challenging anymore. Did the Cinderella thing with the kids once, no need to ever do that again. Most of our meals of off peak to better rest and avoid crowds. We'll be doing Hoop De Doo at 9:30pm because of the discount and the fact as West Coasters our kids will still be awake late early in the trip. But we are also not travelling during the Christmas/Spring break periods either. If I were hitting the peak times more often I would appreciate some extra time.

quirty30
06-03-2009, 12:58 AM
I figure if we're making resort reservations at 11 months (330 days) we should be prepared to make dining reservations at 180. Honestly, it's kind of insane that we should HAVE to plan our meals 6 months in advance, but if it gives me a leg up on the competition, I'll bite. Reservations were meant to be cancelled, right?

STEAMBOAT209
06-03-2009, 07:07 AM
I prefer 180 days out, I like to plan well ahead, have everything booked and in place, and later if need be, make changes.

christa112
06-03-2009, 07:43 AM
I also voted for 90 days. IMO 180 is just too far away. We always have an idea where we want to eat, but I am not usually planning my days that far ahead.

keishashadow
06-03-2009, 08:01 AM
the window needs to run with the release of park hours to avoid having to juggle things

jmho, wouldn't it be swell if disney would recognize their most loyal customers (DVC'rs:)) and give us a jump on making ADRs;)say a few weeks in advance? Eligibility could easily be checked by MS when booking & guests could be 'carded' when arriving for ADRpopcorn::im dreaming lol

eliza61
06-03-2009, 08:20 AM
One of the things I love best about being a dvc member is that I no longer have to be a huge planner. I hated the 180 day window pretty much because I have never been able to pick a restuarant 6 months out. :rolleyes1
So I usually ended up making 3 ADR's for each meal and having to keep track of them.

dvcdisney
06-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Thanks for voting.

Also, thanks for all the comments. It definitely provides more insight on the votes. :)

If anyone else would like to vote, it would be appreciated. :thumbsup2

bobrex
06-04-2009, 11:49 AM
I voted for 180 - I don't like it, but I've had problems booking with the 90 day window that I never had at 180 days.

A number of you have admitted to making multiple reservations for a given day. So aren't you just helping to prolong the problem that you are trying to game around?

dvcdisney
06-05-2009, 09:51 AM
Does anyone else want to vote?:)