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magellica
05-29-2009, 06:29 PM
Can kids dine at the bar? Do you need ADR's to do this. Where can you do this?

webray
05-29-2009, 06:58 PM
Kids...at a bar that serves alcohol...I wouldn't do this, as it takes up spaces for adults who just want to have a cocktail and relax.

Kids don't really belong..."at a bar"

magellica
05-29-2009, 07:00 PM
A snack at 50's in mid-afternoon (4 adults and 1 kid), but wanted to open it up to a hypothetical.

shellybaxter
05-29-2009, 07:26 PM
Kids...at a bar that serves alcohol...I wouldn't do this, as it takes up spaces for adults who just want to have a cocktail and relax.

Kids don't really belong..."at a bar"

I'm not sure I would go this far, but we were at the Prime Time 50's when a family of five were eating at the bar. I felt bad for the kids. Grown ups were leaning over them to talk to the bartender and reaching over them to grab drinks. It didn't look like a very appropriate situation to me

AnitaDisneyVacation
05-29-2009, 08:46 PM
Can kids dine at the bar? Do you need ADR's to do this. Where can you do this?

Do you mean physically seated at the bar or sitting in a bar area? We have stopped at some of the resort lounges with our DDs for a cold drink and have never had a problem. But, we have never sat with them right at the bar - always at a nearby table.

magellica
05-29-2009, 09:47 PM
Do the bar tables require ADR's?

Uncleromulus
05-30-2009, 05:48 AM
We like to eat at the bars in restaurants a lot--mostly to AVOID children. So it isn't particularly interesting to us when kids are seated on bar stools.
But it happens more frequently than you might expect.
PS in our photo we're eating at the bar in the Flying Fish.

aubriee
05-30-2009, 06:30 AM
We like to eat at the bars in restaurants a lot--mostly to AVOID children. So it isn't particularly interesting to us when kids are seated on bar stools.
But it happens more frequently than you might expect.
PS in our photo we're eating at the bar in the Flying Fish.


I guess we've been lucky. We also dine at the bar sometimes just to avoid kids. So far, we've never seen any. Not really appropriate is it?

Uncleromulus
05-30-2009, 10:34 AM
I personally don't think so..

As an aside, last time out at Raglan Road we came upon a family with a little girl (maybe 6 years old) seated--and eating--at the bar. When the dancer came out for her sets, they would actually shove their little girl out right in front of her whereupon the kid would jump up and down like a little cricket on a hot plate. The family was convulsed with laughter each time, and I will add that the dancer put up with it pretty well. It got to be pretty boring for me tho--after 6 or 7 times.
Point being I suppose that there is no telling what people will do these days.

TheRustyScupper
05-30-2009, 10:37 AM
In most states, it is illegal for a minor to sit at the bar - drinking or eating.

gigi1313
05-30-2009, 10:45 AM
In most states, it is illegal for a minor to sit at the bar - drinking or eating.

that's what i was going to say! not sure about florida... nor how well it's enforced at disney...

4HppyCamprs
05-30-2009, 11:14 AM
I have children and do not think it is appropriate to have them sitting at the bar. I agree there is a different culture at Disney but I still would not seat them at the bar. My DH and I also sit in the bar section on occasion to avoid children. I know that sometimes people are desperate to take the first available seat but they really need to think about their fellow diners and show courtesy ( I know a rare commodity) on occasion as well. I would also think it would be Illegal in most places for minors to sit at the bar.

brandylouwho
05-30-2009, 11:31 AM
Interesting thread...I personally probably wouldn't do it, but I have a 2 yr old who can be a real pain. If it were just my husband and I with our well behaved 5 yr old, I might.

I just have to add that, depending on where you are from, a kid dining at the bar really isn't all that strange nor being rude.

I grew up going to the bar after softball games with my dad, eating at the bar (the only "restuarants" in my small hometown were bars)...it is just a small town thing I guess. I live in a city now and wouldn't take my kids to a plain old bar, but many restaurants have a lounge or bar attached & we often have to wait in the bar for our table even wih kids in tow.

So, it is just as anything else you'll run into at WDW or in life...there are a gazillion differing opinions out there. You can't please everyone all of the time. ;)

bubblycoconut
05-30-2009, 11:38 AM
Are kids even allowed to sit at the bar? I wouldn't sit at the bar with children but that's just my opinion. For me it's worth the wait to get a table.

Uncleromulus
05-30-2009, 11:44 AM
If it's illegal in Florida it most certainly isn't enforced. Or in Maryland. Or in Pennsylvania.

JanB
05-30-2009, 12:17 PM
I'm not real certain whether the OP was asking for advice on how appropriate it is for a child to sit at the bar. If so, then you've gotten a lot of opinions on that.

As far as whether it is allowed for children to sit at the bar --- I'm not absolutely certain, but I think that it's probably allowed. I know that children are allowed in the bar areas. At Disney, I don't think that there are different rules for sitting AT the bar.

That being said --- Unlike my restaurants here at home, you will not always have the restaurant menu available to you in the bar. The bar menus that I saw were often very limited in food offerings. That might be the case primarily in the resorts where the bar is physically separate from the restaurant. In the parks, the bar is often within the restaurant and probably can get anything from the kitchen.

I would call Disney Dining to inquire whether an ADR is needed. Even so, and even in the middle of the afternoon, you might have to wait for 5 seats to open up at the bar.

CathieArms
05-30-2009, 12:35 PM
I just have to add that, depending on where you are from, a kid dining at the bar really isn't all that strange nor being rude.

I grew up going to the bar after softball games with my dad, eating at the bar (the only "restuarants" in my small hometown were bars)...it is just a small town thing I guess.

Okay, this makes me laugh. As soon as I read this I thought, "I bet this poster is from Wisconsin." Sure enough, I glanced at your signature! LOL!

I'm in MN and I don't think anyone here would notice if a kid sat and ate at a bar. Wisconsin is the same, and there are more bar-restaurants than churches. :)

Birdrav
05-30-2009, 04:28 PM
We had a very long wait for our table at 50's Prime Time last year, :scared:so we sat at the bar with my DD13 and my neice who was 2 1/2. We just really wanted to sit... anywhere.

It was packed and chaotic, with a few guys who had clearly been at the bar for a while.

I actually felt more akward for DD13.:rolleyes1 I thought others might think I was letting her drink! The bartender loved my neice and talked to her for a while, so he wasn't bothered by it.

MrsJD
06-02-2009, 03:31 PM
It is 100% normal fora kid to be not only in a bar but sitting at the bar...atleast in the state of WI. We actually had our Welcome Baby party in a bar when she was 3 months old.

But then I am mother to said 2 1/2 YO in the previous post!!! hahaha!

Yes guys it is acceptable for kids to be at a bar. Esp in Disney World....hello!?

TDC Nala
06-02-2009, 04:01 PM
I was at the Tune In Lounge on Sunday. There were about 7 kids at the bar. 6 of them were sitting on 2 stools plus Dad's lap. They all got Shirley Temples. There was also 1 kid with his mom at the far end of the bar. So yes, it is absolutely allowed for children to sit at the bar at the Tune In. And they do offer the full dining room menu at the bar. (I had chicken soup. They make an awesome spicy Bloody Mary there. I would not recommend that for the kids though)

lacrosse_lady72
06-02-2009, 05:03 PM
So I can go have the pot roast and a cosmo at the bar if I want without any ADR or having to wait?

sotoalf
06-02-2009, 05:25 PM
So yes, it is absolutely allowed for children to sit at the bar at the Tune In. And they do offer the full dining room menu at the bar. (I had chicken soup. They make an awesome spicy Bloody Mary there. I would not recommend that for the kids though)
That depends on how badly you want the kids awake during the meal!

lilandvisma
06-02-2009, 06:29 PM
sorry...but just have to chime in here.

Perhaps its a northerner thing...but most of our local bars around here are also places to dine. I regularly take my kids to our towns best pizzeria , which also happens to be a bar....
Its cheap and has great food~

When I was a teen I used to hit the bars with my friends in between dance classes and order cherry cokes with actual cherrys :) We would play arcade games and pool...Yea, we thought that was cool back then. Was it the best place for a 15 year old to be? Umm looking back probably not but they did make the best cherry cokes lol. In a small town your options are pretty limited.

In MI you can be under 18 and eat and sit in a bar...but I believe you get kicked out after 9???

My 7 year old gets a kick out of sitting at the stools as we wait for our food. I cant drink(the ulcers lol) but I enjoy going. Here its like a everyone knows everyone atmosphere.

OH and they even have high chairs....

The definition of what is/isn't acceptable cannot be answered as every region is different quite obviously~

Would I take my girls into an upscale bar in NYC ? NO lol, but in the town I live in it is totally acceptable to bring the brats to a mom and pop bar that also serves food :)

shellybaxter
06-02-2009, 06:42 PM
So I can go have the pot roast and a cosmo at the bar if I want without any ADR or having to wait?

If there is room at the bar - then yes - but that is a BIG if. We've been in there several times over the years and only found a seat at the bar once - and that was only one seat - DH stood behind me

ntsammy5
06-02-2009, 06:47 PM
I love bars and I love kids - but the two don't belong together.

polineedyan
06-02-2009, 09:39 PM
ok..here's my take.
my wife and i are both bartenders for a national chain restaurant. i would consider it finer dining. If i should happen to drop in to the restaurant with the kids, i will let them, ages 2 to 15 sit at the bar, long enought to have a shake and maybe a quick appetizer, and then we leave. because im an employee, i am not permitted to sit at the bar, so i stand behind them. i do not drink. we are there to visit/watch mom. if there are adults who so much as look interested in the bar, i insist that the children relinquish their seats. i will only allow them there if there are other open seats.
that being said..when i work, i cant stand having kids with the families. it should be a family atmosphere, but even the talk is more adult in that area.it shouldnt be, but probably is.
we would not sit at the bar of any other restaurant with our children.
in defense, i do see a lot of children at the bar. however, "a bar" and "the bar" are two different things. Kids do not belong in 'a bar..' But the newer restaurant bars are not the same animal. I will not say that the companies encourage it, but i will say that it is a much more toned down version of a bar. especially with the elimination of smoking. they do not discourage it. yes, i have kids cups at the bar. and yes, i make drinks for the kids in the restaurant. so, even if your kid is at a table, he's drinking a drink from 'the bar'
a lot of states do not allow it. im pretty sure where i am, they must be accompanied by an adult. minors are not allowed BEHIND my bar, ever. because it would be considered 'having access'..much in the same that some states have an age requirement to carry liquor.
i dont know where i stand on it. do i plan on sitting at 'the bar' with my kids at disney?no..could i?sure, because its not the wild west anymore..most of the time..

robinb
06-02-2009, 09:54 PM
I have children and do not think it is appropriate to have them sitting at the bar. I agree there is a different culture at Disney but I still would not seat them at the bar.We're from Wisconsin and in many ways it is like European cities where kids go to bars that serve food. I have NO problem seating my child at the bar while I sit or stand with her. IMO it's not a big deal. I am obviously in the minority here.

*snork* I just noticed that my fellow Wisconsinites, Minnesotans & Michiganders have also weighed in on this issue!

magellica
06-02-2009, 10:53 PM
I grew up in Pennsylvania and my sister and I spent many a Saturday night, between the ages 6-16 eating at a table in the bar area of a local family restaurant, because that was better than sitting next to screaming children who couldn't behave themselves who were seated in the restaurant proper.

aubriee
06-04-2009, 04:07 AM
We're from Wisconsin and in many ways it is like European cities where kids go to bars that serve food. I have NO problem seating my child at the bar while I sit or stand with her. IMO it's not a big deal. I am obviously in the minority here.

*snork* I just noticed that my fellow Wisconsinites, Minnesotans & Michiganders have also weighed in on this issue!


I think it's probably a regional thing. I posted earlier in this thread that I didn't think kids belonged in a bar. Yesterday I had lunch in a local Mexican restaurant that I frequent. I happened to think of this thread and asked the waitress if they had a policy on kids sitting at the bar. She actually looked at me like I had two heads and emphatically stated that no way would they allow it. It is against their rules. I work night shift, so I just asked several people that I work with and got the same response (they looked at me like I had two heads:rotfl:). All six said no way would they think kids would even be allowed to sit in any bar whether they served food or not. It's just not seen around here.:rotfl:

bleeps
06-04-2009, 05:06 AM
In Massachusetts it is illegal for a minor to be seated at a bar. Minors can be in a bar generally, and may sit at a table, but they may not sit up at the bar itself. Seems like a reasonable law to me....

CathieArms
06-04-2009, 05:36 AM
It's definitely a regional thing. I live in MN, but I'm *from* OK. In OK, you can't even have the kids anywhere near the bar. It's roped off and it's against the law for kids to be at the bar. No exceptions. Extend that to liquor stores; you have to be 21 to enter and they WILL card you at the liquor store door if they think you're under 21. Not even babies allowed.

In MN (and WI), kids are openly welcomed to sit at the bar. Have a chocolate shake, eat dinner, wait on mom and dad...It's just not a big deal. And, parents bring their kids to liquor stores all the time without giving it a second thought.

State laws and different codes of acceptable behavior...and they vary by region.

PoohHappens
06-04-2009, 06:51 AM
I do not know the actual law in my area but all the liquor stores are marked must be 21 to enter. Most bar areas of restaurants, not just the bar itself, are marked must be 21 to enter bar. This was different to us though as we used to live in MN where it is not a confirmation party until the keg is tapped. (for those of you who do not know, that party is in honor of a religious right of passage for a child that is well below drinking age, and no the beer is not served to the child) At disney however I think things are different. At 50s the bar is in the waiting area. I do not think there are seperate bar tables, just the bar. Folks are also served drinks just sitting around in the waiting area, or standing, walking as the case may be.

PoohHappens
06-04-2009, 07:21 AM
double post

allshookup
06-04-2009, 07:26 AM
At Tune-in the adults could sit at the bar while the child sits in one of the lounge chairs right next to them. I'm thinking down at the left of the bar there are some seats right there. Just an idea if you want to save the bar seats for adults.

As far as it being illegal in Mass, I know in some towns like Woburn you can't even carry your own drink & they certainly don't allow kids at the bar, but DH & I just had drinks at apps at TGIFridays in Danvers & there were two kids sitting at the bar eating dinner. Not sure if they were breaking the law, but it was a Friday afternoon & pretty crowded with adults not being able to find seats, so I thought it was a bit rude to allow the kids to sit there & eat when there were many open booths nearby, but that's me.