Old times at Disney

[YesDear]

I just found a tray of slides from my first trip to WDW in June of 1981. I will share some of them on this thread. We stayed at this brand new place called Vistana! I know some of you were not even born when these were taken.

How long has it been since we saw the side street as MK look like this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/jwm6780/File0338.jpg

These will all be slides scanned and converted! Either Ekatchrome or Kodachrome. No exif!! Taken with a Nikon F2 or FE

[luvmyfam444]

I remember that look - though I was a kid back then! LOL

What are you gonna convert your slides in? My mom has nothing but slides from when we were growing up (hence I have no pics of my childhood to show my kids)....I need to get her to convert them - but I'm not so sure she's not scared of ruining them....

[GoofyontheHiSeas]

1981, come on John lets go back a little futher. This is my first trip to
Adventureland at Disneyland sometime in 1955-56. I am the short one.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_074.jpg

Tomorrowland around the same time.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_072.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_12679.jpg

When I was a little older with Mickey and Minnie

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_121.jpg

[YesDear]

I have an Epson scanner that can scan slides or negatives. I will scan them as TIFFs then do any fixing or alterations in photoshop or capture nx2. Then sort and store!

I recently scanned some 60 year old slides of my sister's father in law and fixed and printed and they looked like new!

[wenrob]

So cool! I have one or two from Disneyland in the 70's they are in really bad shape though.

I just read about scanning in TIFF. What dpi do you scan at? I've read 300 is plenty and then others say as high as you can go.

[Todd_H]

These are great, John and Roger! Please keep 'em coming (if it's not too much trouble).

I have some old pictures from my first WDW trip in 1974 (I was 2, had a bad ear infection in BOTH ears, and my dad drove us down there from NC pulling an airstream). My parents must have been crazy to go ahead with that trip with a screaming 2 year-old. As a matter of fact, there is one picture I distinctly remember where we pulled over at a rest stop and I'm sitting on a picnic table just wailing (I think dad took that shot to cherish the memory).

I'll have to dig them out and scan them.

[OK!]

Thanks for posting these! I absolutely LOVE looking at pics of DL and WDW back in the day.

[annnewjerz]

How fun! The flower carts are puuuurdy. Unfortunately I have to say that I have no such old pictures of WDW---as I am one of those that you mentioned that wasn't even born in 1981. :goodvibes

I do have some pictures from this island that we visited while in WDW that had birds, monkeys, etc. on it. I think it was a ferry ride from the MK. No clue where it was or what happened to it, but I do remember getting pooped on! Ah, memories :lmao:

Edited to add: I don't know why I never just Google'd it, it's Discovery Island!

[ukcatfan]

How fun! The flower carts are puuuurdy. Unfortunately I have to say that I have no such old pictures of WDW---as I am one of those that you mentioned that wasn't even born in 1981. :goodvibes

I do have some pictures from this island that we visited while in WDW that had birds, monkeys, etc. on it. I think it was a ferry ride from the MK. No clue where it was or what happened to it, but I do remember getting pooped on! Ah, memories :lmao:

Edited to add: I don't know why I never just Google'd it, it's Discovery Island!

It was closed when AK opened. They moved some of the animals from it to AK as well. I loved going there as a kid and wish I could have taken my children before they closed it. :sad2:

I was born before '81, visited WDW every year but two since '76, but was not into taking pictures at that young age. I think my parents have plenty of shots from back then though.

[annnewjerz]

It was closed when AK opened. They moved some of the animals from it to AK as well. I loved going there as a kid and wish I could have taken my children before they closed it. :sad2:

Just read that on Wiki---who would have thought!! I guess I just always assumed they closed it like they did with River Country and that was it. Glad to read the animals were relocated, like my personal faves from Discovery Island, the Golden Taramin Lion Monkeys.

(I, obviously, didn't take this pic---I borrowed it from Google. That would be impressive for an 6 year old though ;))

http://dantravel.com/content_images/1/SouthAmerica/entrada_goldenlion.jpg

[KAT4DISNEY]

I'll share a few pics from the late 60's and 70's that I scanned awhile ago. Most of these I submitted, and they were used, in several of the 50th anniversary mosaics that were done at Disneyland. I didn't do much more than scan and auto-correct in a program I can't even remember. I will have to try and do a better job some day. And I'll also have to get around to scanning many old WDW pics.

I think Dad looked pretty cool in his sunglasses. And of course me in my Mickey Ears with my name on the back! Can you guess who was taking the picture? As a clue - my Dad did not carry a purse! LOL
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p1057867487-4.jpg

I still remember this ride - I couldn't keep the car going straight and it was a constant banging from side to side. Dad was not very impressed I must add. ;)
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p918450389-4.jpg

And this one from a year or two earlier. One of those rare characters that I'm glad was removed from roaming. He was mean and gave me nightmares for a long time. I wouldn't have thought that pinching his nose would give such a reaction!
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p1004135785-4.jpg

Donald was pretty nice though!
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p666882012-4.jpg

I think this may be from Knotts Berry Farm but AFAIK it could also be a DL ride that was removed. I'm betting on Knotts but I still have my DL leather beaded vest on! :cutie: Obviously Dad wouldn't go again so he sent my Grandma for the adventure - she never ever had a drivers license!
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p1042952812-4.jpg

These are from 1974 with DS and DBIL.
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v6/p665235915-4.jpg

Last one - from 1974 again.
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v6/p660710201-4.jpg

[Groucho]

I just bought a box of film stuff from a pro photographer just to get a bunch of archival negative storage pages and this morning I completed sticking all my negatives (that I can find!) in them, hopefully I'll get back into scanning them soon. I don't have the really old ones but my parents do have shots of me on our first trip to WDW back in the '70s, there was also a DL trip in 1982. Man, even the kid's clothes were pretty scary back then! Eek!

I just read about scanning in TIFF. What dpi do you scan at? I've read 300 is plenty and then others say as high as you can go.
I would skip TIFF and got with a lossless compressed format like PNG. If you're scanning slides or negatives, you'll want a lot more than 300 dpi - my Nikon scanner scans them at 4000 dpi and you get a photo that's somewhere about 5600x3700 pixels.

If you're scanning prints, 300 dpi is plenty for a 4x6 shot. A larger shot could be done at lower dpi.

Donald was pretty nice though!
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p666882012-4.jpg
I assume that this was before we all had to bail out Bank of America. (As seen in the background.) :teeth:

[luvmyfam444]

KAt - I remember those cars - And I've never been to Knotts Berry Farm - I thought they were over there near Toon Town someplace....:confused3
I'll wait & see what the experts say....

[GoofyontheHiSeas]

A few more from early DL.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_122.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_1267.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_071.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Apr04_124.jpg

And here is one of IASW at the 1964 Worlds Fair in NY.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a352/GoofyontheHiSeas/Untitled-4.jpg

[oregondaddyof2]

CRAZY!!! I was born in 1981m so it is awesome to see pics of DL and WDW back before then... Like others have said, keep them comming!!

[zackiedawg]

I only have dug up a few so far from family albums that I borrowed, but I have a long Disney history. My first Disney trip was in 1971, when my grandmother drove us down from NJ for some big new theme park - being 3, I didn't know much about Walt and his California park! We were there opening month, and decided we would make it an annual pilgrimage. In 1974, my parents divorced and my mother moved us to California...now we could go to that OTHER Disney park! We lived in Long Beach, which is quite close, so we went 4 or 5 times a year. As if that wasn't good enough for a Disney boy like me...we would go to Florida once a year so she could visit her mother (my grandmother) who had decided in 1975 to move to Florida...you can guess where we chose as the meeting place! In 1976, my mother moved us to Florida to live closer to her mother, and we were hitting Disney World 4 or 5 times a year. That lasted through 1990, when I graduated college (went to college in New Orleans, but still Disney'd twice a year on summer break)...and I decided to move to...California! I lived there until 1994, visiting Disneyland at least 6 or 7 times a year (missing Disney World though!!). In 1994, I moved back to Florida, and back to Disney World. Annual passes had become available, a few years later I bought into DVC, and I've continued my tradition of never missing a Disney park any year since 1971.

I have a few scans from 1974 at Magic Kingdom:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231620-4.jpeg

I'm on the left in the above shot, and seated in the below shot:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231620-5.jpeg

Here's a 1986 shot of River Country, with Discovery Island in the foreground:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-070309134909-6.jpeg

A very lonely Contemporary in 1983 or 1984 (no BLT, no Convention Center, no Wilderness Lodge):

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-070309134908-1.jpeg

1984 - center rotunda in front of castle - lots of trees, planters...and no Partners statue:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309232241.jpeg

Long line for Space Mountain...with the old space men (I'm leaning on the trash can in the back)...circa 1984:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231929-3.jpeg

Still 1984...Pecos Bill much more open, and the train station sitting out in prominence...Splash Mountain wasn't there yet:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231620-6.jpeg

1983 - Double-decker busses were still running around Epcot World Showcase:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231619-2.jpeg

1983 - Who remembers Horizons? Before there was a Mission Space:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309230940-2.jpeg

I don't have any photos of my own from before 1997 - they were usually snapped by family...so I have to see if I can get a hold of some more shoeboxes of photos to go through and see what else I can dig up!

[YesDear]

I think that pictures are also great to see. There is a picture I do not want to see though. The 25th anniversary Pepto Bismol castle! Please if you have one, spare us all!

Trust me if you have not seen it you do not want to!

[jann1033]

Last one - from 1974 again.
http://KDLarson.zenfolio.com/img/v6/p660710201-4.jpg

you look like you were one groovy, in fashion chick with those pants:lmao:
my first wdw trip was in the 80s but i have no photos to prove it. nice to see the flower carts, i do remember them cause it really impressed me how even the more out of the way placesin the park were so pretty/well kept. and i loved horizons.
thanks for the memories:goodvibes

[Todd_H]

Here's a 1986 shot of River Country, with Discovery Island in the foreground:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-070309134909-6.jpeg

Ah, River Country. I really wish Disney could do something to bring it back, but I think pollution in the Lake has prevented it.


Long line for Space Mountain...with the old space men (I'm leaning on the trash can in the back)...circa 1984:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231929-3.jpeg

Wow, I had forgotten all about those Space Guys in front of SM.



1983 - Who remembers Horizons? Before there was a Mission Space:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309230940-2.jpeg


I always liked Horizons. It was my favorite ride in Epcot. I can still remember the tune from it's theme song.

Thanks for posting these, zackiedawg. They definitely bring back some great memories from my childhood visits to WDW.

[mouselovenfamily]

I think that pictures are also great to see. There is a picture I do not want to see though. The 25th anniversary Pepto Bismol castle! Please if you have one, spare us all!

Trust me if you have not seen it you do not want to!

I was just looking at that photo the other day...:laughing::laughing::laughing:

It was on my kids first trip to Disney. I was bummed that I couldn't get the "castle shot" of my kids due to the new look.

[KAT4DISNEY]

I assume that this was before we all had to bail out Bank of America. (As soon in the background.) :teeth:
I was thinking when we were at WDW a couple of weeks ago how much less obvious the branding is. I wonder if it's choice or if Disney can't get those $$$'s out of companies as easily?

KAt - I remember those cars - And I've never been to Knotts Berry Farm - I thought they were over there near Toon Town someplace....:confused3
I'll wait & see what the experts say.... Interesting! For a long time I thought the mule ride I remembered was also from Knotts but learned that DL did do that so maybe this was Disney as well.

I
1983 - Double-decker busses were still running around Epcot World Showcase:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309231619-2.jpeg
I had forgotten about these!

1983 - Who remembers Horizons? Before there was a Mission Space:

http://themagicinpixels.com/forum/gallery/pictures/66-050309230940-2.jpeg

:wave:I do! And I have a photo from when they were building Mission Space.

I think that pictures are also great to see. There is a picture I do not want to see though. The 25th anniversary Pepto Bismol castle! Please if you have one, spare us all!

Trust me if you have not seen it you do not want to! Oh, you know someone won't be able to resist now! I was there that year but haven't run across that photo in a long time.

you look like you were one groovy, in fashion chick with those pants:lmao:
Wasn't I!?!?! :rotfl2: I don't believe I had my smiley face sneakers on though! :cool:

[ukcatfan]

Ah, River Country. I really wish Disney could do something to bring it back, but I think pollution in the Lake has prevented it.


We actually cannot blame this one on pollution. It is b/c of a deadly amoeba that lurks in stagnate FL waters. While RC might have been closed for other reasons, this is the one that keeps it from coming back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri The capital funds to make the location a closed off filtered system are too high to justify b/c the payoff would be too long. Basically, the capacity of RC is too small to make any money given the needed repairs. I have also heard stories of gators wandering into the swimming lagoon of RC while guests were in it! :scared1:

[annnewjerz]

We actually cannot blame this one on pollution. It is b/c of a deadly amoeba that lurks in stagnate FL waters. While RC might have been closed for other reasons, this is the one that keeps it from coming back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri The capital funds to make the location a closed off filtered system are too high to justify b/c the payoff would be too long. Basically, the capacity of RC is too small to make any money given the needed repairs. I have also heard stories of gators wandering into the swimming lagoon of RC while guests were in it! :scared1:

Waaaaaay OT but this is why I almost keel over every time I see someone letting their kid wade into Bay Lake. :scared1::scared1::scared1:

1. There are signs everywhere that you can't swim, even if they don't know it's because of the amoebas that brings me to my next point which is 2. It's Florida people!!! I've seen an alligator wandering around POR when we visited and have heard stories of them being seen in the MK---why would ANYONE put their kid in a huge, murky Florida lake when there are "clean" pools to use?!


"McFly?????"

[ukcatfan]

Waaaaaay OT but this is why I almost keel over every time I see someone letting their kid wade into Bay Lake. :scared1::scared1::scared1:

1. There are signs everywhere that you can't swim, even if they don't know it's because of the amoebas that brings me to my next point which is 2. It's Florida people!!! I've seen an alligator wandering around POR when we visited and have heard stories of them being seen in the MK---why would ANYONE put their kid in a huge, murky Florida lake when there are "clean" pools to use?!


"McFly?????"

Thank you! Thank you very much!!! Living down here, I will not even step close to a standing body of water that is not a chlorinated swimming pool!!!!!!!

[KAT4DISNEY]

---why would ANYONE put their kid in a huge, murky Florida lake when there are "clean" pools to use?!


"McFly?????"

B/C it's DISNEY and they don't have the same stuff that the rest of Florida does! There's a current thread on the DVC boards about an alligator at BCV that they are trying to relocate. People feed it from the bridge - nice of them to encourage it to start "snacking" around humans.

[ukcatfan]

B/C it's DISNEY and they don't have the same stuff that the rest of Florida does! There's a current thread on the DVC boards about an alligator at BCV that they are trying to relocate. People feed it from the bridge - nice of them to encourage it to start "snacking" around humans.

WOW!!! It is a good thing that they are on WDW property and "somewhat" protected from the local authorities. Not too long ago down here, a guy got about 2-3 years in prison for feeding a gator. I believe it is a felony in all of Florida and ignorance is not a defense.

[juligrl]

I have so got to find something to scan my family's slides - you all have inspired me! Our first family trip to Disney was in 1982 (I was 4) and my Dad got all the pictures on slides - so frustrating now. They also did all of our first western trip on slides - some great shots in there but the only time anyone I can enjoy them is when we pull out the screen and projector. :rolleyes:

What are those of you who are converting slides using?

[zackiedawg]

Most of my 80's ones were scanned from slides. I have a Canon Canoscan 4400F that I picked up for $85 that is simple and reliable. It has a slide insert in the lid, with backlighting (needed for scanning slides), that holds 4 slides at a time. I can use simple pre-sets and autocropping, or I can handselect the areas to crop and control resolution of the scan as needed. It supports up to 4800x9600 resolution, scans 4 slides in around 2 minutes. It isn't the fastest, but it is one of the cheapest, and gives pretty good quality results (depending on your originals, of course!).

[Groucho]

:rolleyes1

http://www.groucho.org/pics/gallery/38812-2/Roll004-23.jpg

Want more detail? Here's a 100% crop of the scan (4000dpi on my Nikon Coolscan 4000.)

http://www.groucho.org/pics/gallery/38816-1/Roll004-23-crop.jpg

I had totally forgot that I was there during it until I found these negatives. :lmao: This was on my first trip with the woman who is now my wife (and her first trip since she was two or three.) No wonder we didn't go back for six or seven years!

[kim]

We saw an alligator in the water under the walk way in the Frontierland area in July 2004 at MK. We noticed Disney management standing there looking down in the water at something, and there he was. It looked to be maybe 2 ft long...?? He was really still in the water, but on the bank right next to the edge, there were those birds that have those really long beaks and skinny little legs in the bushes waiting for people to feed them.

It was wild to see one right there in the Magic Kingdom!! I dug the pictures out of a photo album and took a picture of it (sorry for the bad image) --I've seen it myself.

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww172/kim0522/P5302118.jpg

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww172/kim0522/P5302113.jpg
kim

[KAT4DISNEY]

WOW!!! It is a good thing that they are on WDW property and "somewhat" protected from the local authorities. Not too long ago down here, a guy got about 2-3 years in prison for feeding a gator. I believe it is a felony in all of Florida and ignorance is not a defense.

That was being talked about as well - it wasn't something I was aware of but then I won't even toss bread to a duck much less an alligator!

A couple of years ago DH spotted a 2-3 foot gator on one of the banks at AK back by Tusker House. We mentioned it to a CM who asked us to show it to them and said she would report it right away to management so they are concerned.


:rolleyes1

http://www.groucho.org/pics/gallery/38812-2/Roll004-23.jpg


:rotfl2: :rotfl: :rotfl2:

[YesDear]

Definitely back in the dark days of Disney. Imagineering gone amuck!:rotfl: I think the person that thought that up produced the Black Cauldron!

[Todd_H]

We actually cannot blame this one on pollution. It is b/c of a deadly amoeba that lurks in stagnate FL waters. While RC might have been closed for other reasons, this is the one that keeps it from coming back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri The capital funds to make the location a closed off filtered system are too high to justify b/c the payoff would be too long. Basically, the capacity of RC is too small to make any money given the needed repairs. I have also heard stories of gators wandering into the swimming lagoon of RC while guests were in it! :scared1:

That's really interesting... hadn't heard that. So all those years that RC was in operation, I wonder if they were having some reported deaths that they linked back to the water or if it was just a preemptive closing? I spent A LOT of time at RC when we stayed at Ft Wilderness as a kid.

[Todd_H]

Definitely back in the dark days of Disney. Imagineering gone amuck!:rotfl: I think the person that thought that up produced the Black Cauldron!

Or "Ernest Scared Stupid"

[Amy]

I have to chime in! Here's a photo from Disneyland in 1963 - I was 4 years old, and my brother was 8. Love the hands on the dwarf! (And look at my awful haircut! My mom used to cut my bangs, and they'd always be crooked and she'd try to get them straight and they'd get shorter and shorter......)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i187/mamagrumpy/SnowWhite1963.jpg

Needless to say, I don't remember a thing from that trip, way too young. Didn't visit a Disney park again for a long time - WDW in the early '80s.

[DisneyFairytale]

WAW that disney castle is insane! Vere neat, tho I won't lie I like the original better:rotfl: that's incredible, thank you for sharing!

[ukcatfan]

That's really interesting... hadn't heard that. So all those years that RC was in operation, I wonder if they were having some reported deaths that they linked back to the water or if it was just a preemptive closing? I spent A LOT of time at RC when we stayed at Ft Wilderness as a kid.

I cannot guarantee 100% accuracy, but they supposedly closed it with plans to just keep it closed for a couple years to refurb it. B/c the other water parks were doing so well, the funds kept getting delayed until more years had passed. Around that same time, the amoeba scare really came to light in the media. While the risk at RC is probably so minimal that it would not need to be addressed, they knew the media would slam them for ignoring it, so now it is "permanently" temporarily closed.

The amoeba also affects water sports in FL. It only grows in shallow calm waters, so when doing water sports in FL, stay in the deeper areas of the lake. It enters through the nose, so it is pretty easy to get infected if the water is splashed up in your face (i.e. spray from water skiing, jet skis, boats, etc) Oh, and gators also like to lurk in calm shallow waters as well...

As for gators at WDW, I believe the un-official length is around 5-6 feet before they even try to do anything about them. The little ones are too hard to catch anyway.

[jann1033]

That's really interesting... hadn't heard that. So all those years that RC was in operation, I wonder if they were having some reported deaths that they linked back to the water or if it was just a preemptive closing? I spent A LOT of time at RC when we stayed at Ft Wilderness as a kid.

i remember a number of yrs ago a child got grabbed( but survived) by a gator feeding ducks or fish or something similar in Fort Wilderness...it scared me since we tent camped there and i try to avoid areas with predators when i am sleeping in a cloth tent that doesn't afford a whole lot of protection:rotfl:. i had assumed they kept them out somehow but last time i asked they told me any over 4 feet get moved to a part of the grounds that are undeveloped. ot but i just don't get it with swimming, i've see people including kids in swimming with gators floating only a few feet away( ie think it's called blue hole state park, blue something anyway, they have manatees there as well):scared1::scared1::scared1:

[jann1033]

(And look at my awful haircut! My mom used to cut my bangs, and they'd always be crooked and she'd try to get them straight and they'd get shorter and shorter......)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i187/mamagrumpy/SnowWhite1963.jpg

.
my mon gave me those bangs too except my normally straight hair had frizzy pseudo curls from bobby pins. talk about traumatizing your kid:rotfl:..
however thinking the Disney costume dept has gotten a little better at their task over the yrs;) wonder how many kids had nightmares after grabbing that dead hand

[Dis-Wiz]

Another castle cake! My sister and I's first visit was with a castle cake...

Little did my sister know she'd be working there 11 years later....

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb121/Dis-Wiz/sc024ff1a1-1.jpg

[Experiment_626]

I cannot guarantee 100% accuracy, but they supposedly closed it with plans to just keep it closed for a couple years to refurb it. B/c the other water parks were doing so well, the funds kept getting delayed until more years had passed. Around that same time, the amoeba scare really came to light in the media. While the risk at RC is probably so minimal that it would not need to be addressed, they knew the media would slam them for ignoring it, so now it is "permanently" temporarily closed.I had heard that another major reason it closed was simply that its capacity was so low compared to the other two water parks.

SSB

[ukcatfan]

I had heard that another major reason it closed was simply that its capacity was so low compared to the other two water parks.

SSB

Yep. It looks like the cards are stacked against it pretty bad. I doubt it will ever be opened again.

[boBQuincy]

From my first trip in 1974:

Here's how many people arrived, on an airline that went the way of GM:
http://www.suzieandbob.com/wdw/1974_eal.jpg

This is MCO back then, this is about all of it:
http://www.suzieandbob.com/wdw/1974_mco.jpg

Some things have not changed much:
http://www.suzieandbob.com/wdw/1974_castle.jpg

Some have:
http://www.suzieandbob.com/wdw/1974_sub.jpg

[Todd_H]

From my first trip in 1974:

Here's how many people arrived, on an airline that went the way of GM:
http://www.suzieandbob.com/wdw/1974_eal.jpg



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You could widen your world, if you had wings..."

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