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CaptainCook
05-07-2009, 03:19 PM
I have read numerous posts on how DDP is alot of food and that upgrading to DxDP is just crazy b/c it's just so much food and most poeple can't eat it all, leaving WDW with unused meal credits and forcing themselves to spend leftover snack credits on candy to take home. (sure we may save a few for treats on the plane ride home, but I can't imagine filling a suitcase like I have read others do). I also don't buy into the 2TS restaurants for dinner every night as a good way to "use up the credits" either.

Most people I know eat 3 full meals plus a few snacks every day all year. Given that I am a) on vacation, b) at Disney and c) walking and/or swimming all day every day, I think the DxDP sounds like the perfect amount of food for me. Am I just an abnormally big eater? Maybe, but I am active and maintain a healthy weight, and I just can't believe so many of you DISer's eat so little.

I guess with this post I am trying to get some more insight from you all as to why I seem so different than the majority of posters. I have justified to myself that the DxDP is the right way to go for me, DW, DS(4.5), and DD(2.5) for the following reasons:

young kiddos will do best on a normal schedule of 3 meals / day at regular times
we want to do as many character meals, especially breakfasts as possible
we want a sit-down break from the heat for lunch each day
DD(2.5) eats for free at buffets so the more TS credits the better
appetizers at TS can also be used to share with DD who doesn't have her own credits
have most ADR's planned ahead so don't have to decide what CS each day, and finding tables at CS can be hard enough, having an ADR at TS is nice
do lots of buffets, they don't take as long and kids can get food and start eating as soon as we sit-down
with such young kids we are not missing out on valuable touring time, character meal time is more fun for them than touring, and we can avoid the lines for meeting characters in parks
we figure on only a few hours of touring per day anyway with kids at that age
all you can eat meals don't have to mean more food than you would normally eat
not alwyas true, but is usually easier to eat healthier options at TS vs CS
6 snacks / day on DxDP seems like it can easily be used up by the 4 of us on water, juice, ice-cream etc. (will be there during summer heat)


Please provide your feedback. I feel that upgrading to DxDP is going to be the best use of time & money for our family but am interested in hearing the other side too.

Thanks.

And sorry I am new to this, I don't have a signature and all of that stuff yet. But I have been reading here for a while now and have been to WDW many times but not since having kiddos and never with DDP before.

theweave
05-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Well I have never done the DDP or the DxDDP so I can't say much but... I am planning on the DxDDP when I go in Feb next year. Reason being, I want 3 meals a day like you and want the flexibility of being able to have either CS or TS each day. I am by no means a big eater but I want to be able to eat where I want without having to scan menus for "cheaper" things like I did last year!

Every one has their own reasons for and against the plans and I am sure you will hear more here!

clc053103
05-07-2009, 03:41 PM
I am not so sure that it's too much food. We do DxDP too! We do a few CS meals and some signature meals, so we don't always eat 3 full sit downs a day. We also use a ton of snack credits towards fruit and bottled water. It is also possible to eat lighter foods at TS like entree salads!

We love not reaching into our pocket for money every time we are thirsty!

GraceLuvsWDW
05-07-2009, 03:51 PM
It's too much food because:

A An app, an entree and a dessert is usually more than we can each eat (not to mention the snacks in between!)
B You're at Disney! You don't want to spend half your day sitting in restaurants.

That said, we're doing the DxDP in June because we're focusing on 2TS credit restaurants and are not going in "commando" mode at the parks

But there's no way I'd do 3 TS meals a day at Disney, I'd be chomping at the bit to get out and ride some rides!

TDC Nala
05-07-2009, 03:55 PM
It's great for some. I almost never eat breakfast. A full lunch of three courses plus a signature dinner would mean I'd have to take it easy on the signature dinner - not what I'd want to do. And I don't usually order all three courses. There's some who like to avoid the entree AND the dessert and just get a couple of appetizers and a cheese board (like me). I don't do character meals and buffets are rare. If I do them, it's Boma or Biergarten.

and TIW covers the booze!

I don't use the plan and just buy whatever I'm in the mood for.

dischic89
05-07-2009, 04:05 PM
Last year, we were on the regular dining plan and while I don't think is was too much food we were absolutely stuffed by the end... I ended up gaining five pounds, seriously. I definitely don't feel that I eat very little while at home, I just think that the foods are different. At home, I'll have string cheese or fruit snacks during the day, but at Disney I'll have ice cream and popcorn. And on the dining plan I have dessert with lunch AND dinner, something I wouldn't normally do. I think it just depends on the person and what you're used to. If I had three sit down meals a day at Disney, I honestly don't think my clothes would fit by the time I had to go home :lmao:.

dischic89
05-07-2009, 04:09 PM
I forgot to add...


:welcome:

Disneynut5
05-07-2009, 04:13 PM
We are going Deluxe in September (Dh, me - DW, Ds -8, and Dd - 4). We have planned 2 TS per day. I also figure that the lines for CS will be long during free dining as most people will want to save their TS credits for dinner. I also do not like fast food and TS with salads and all fits us better. Just because they give you 3 courses (App, meal, dessert) does not mean you have to eat everything - I can pace myself and only eat half of many items if I need to.

Of course, this is our first trip. With small kids we will not be doing the popular thrill rides anyway. If fact there are MANY rides and shows we are just not interested in and we have 2 days at eaach park if needed.

So maybe we are both crazy CaptainCook! :)

ancestry
05-07-2009, 04:15 PM
Well we have the DxDP so I must say that I agree with you. :)

Honestly I do think it will be a bit too much food for me (and I'm not exactly a small woman to begin with) when you add in the appetizers, meals, and dessert, but my kids do eat three meals a day plus snack in between at home. Also, my husband likes to eat when we are on vacation. We look forward to having three sit down meals a day. Our meals are our family time and our down time during the day.

Gina35
05-07-2009, 04:23 PM
I'm going through the same decision process right now (whether or not to do deluxe). We have had the regular dining plan the last few times we've gone to DW and loved it. We have 7 in our family, so the additional $32 per day does add up...but it sounds very enticing! I agree with some of the "positives" noted by previous posters: having the choice of TS or CS, avoiding the table search at CS restaurants, being able to combine breakfast buffets and signature dining, and not having to think about putting any money out (except for tips). I'd have to say that I'm leaning toward deluxe, but I'm still not sure. Keep your thoughts coming; it helps to read others' experiences with the plan.

Colleen27
05-07-2009, 04:34 PM
It isn't too much food for us! We enjoyed the deluxe plan in January '08 and are looking forward to doing it again in Sept. We don't usually eat 3 meals per day at home or away, just because we're not breakfast people, so we go with an early lunch and a signature dinner most days and the kids use snack credits while we're getting coffee/tea in our refillable mugs in the morning.

I think one of the reasons people find the plan to be too much food is because they're thinking about getting the most from it rather than eating the way they want to. So they're eating larger and heavier meals than they really want, eating dessert even if they're full, not "wasting" snack credits on drinks when they're thirsty, etc. We love the plan, but we use it the way we want to eat. Sure, we'd get more dollar value out of it if we ordered steak at every meal, shipped bottled water to the resort so we could conserve our snack credits for sweets, and ordered dessert whether we wanted it or not. but we get our money's worth and a fair savings by eating what we want even if that means the cheapest entree on the menu and skipping dessert.

maggiew
05-07-2009, 04:43 PM
I think it depends on your family. For mine, we have 2 preteen/teen girls that hardly eat anything. Normally (at Disney and when we go out to eat at home) we share food. We may get 3 meals for the 4 of us. Or 2 meals plus one appetizer. We rarely eat dessert because we are too full. So paying for 4 "adults" on the REGULAR plan is about $160 per day plus tips. The DxDDP would be about $288 plus even more tips!!! We probably wouldn't spend that much normally. We might spend UP TO that amount, but not more. Some days much less. We usually eat one Table service per day too. But some of our favorites are on the cheaper end of the scale. One thing my kids do eat pretty well is breakfast food, so we often do a character breakfast or two. But those are usually cheaper to do OOP than on the dining plan. Also, we go in the summer and it is too hot to eat too much. Plus, this year we are doing 7 nights at WDW due to the buy 4 get 3 deal. If we were only doing 4 or 5 nights like we normally do, I might try it.

However, if DH and I ever go alone without the kids, I hope to do the DxDDP just so we could try the signature places. Although I don't think I will order an appetizer, entree and dessert at each place. Although sometimes the fancier the restaurant, the smaller the portions! So we would have to see.

Maggie

SunnieRN
05-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Welcome Captain! I have argued with myself over the pros and cons of QS, DDP and DxDDP over and over.

I can see the advantages to all the plans. For my family I have noticed our eating trends and habits and find that for us, with a 1 and 3 year old and three adults, that we are better off with the QS plan right now.

That having been said, we are doing DDP in Sept. as we are taking additional family members who have never been and may not go back again. We want them to be able to experience some of the restaurants there. I will definately miss the extra snack credit however and don't feel the DDP is as good a buy as the DxDDP!

We were there last Sept. and it was so hot that our appetites were practically non existant by lunch and dinner due to the heat! Last month it was a lot more fun to eat!;) We did the QS plan for most of our trip and over 9 days I only ate one burger. There are a lot of really good choices!

When the boys are a bit older (say 4 and 6) we plan to try DxDDP and try all the places we dream about right now!

It definately sounds like a great fit for your family!

I'mwithGrumpy
05-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Having just returned from a 7 day trip using the DxDP, I felt as you, it would not be too much food. I knew going in to it that we would not be doing the parks commando style, as my mother would need rest breaks frequently. I planned out some 2 credit TS restaurants and figured using snack credits for drinks etc would work it all out. I made 2 TS reservations per day leaving one meal for CS. It really was too much. I have used the regular DP in the past and loved it. I was disappointed when they removed the appetizers and especially the included gratuity;), so I thought the DxDP would be great. Even with all the thought, planning and preparation, we found it was just too time consuming. We often were not even hungry when it was time for the next meal and we just couldn't use it as we thought we would. We had 5 meal credits unused, and 21 snack credits unused. We cancelled 2 of our dinner reservations during the week, as we just didn't want to stop what we were doing to head for our reservation. We chose to do CS one night instead, and the other night all we wanted was a light snack. So for us, we won't be doing the DXDP again, we'll stick with the regular DP. I like having a sit down meal at the end of the day, but I want to enjoy my time in the parks, not in transit to dining reservations, waiting to be seated, waiting for cast members to take my orders and bring food etc...I do feel the DP should also have appetizers included. They go so overboard on the deluxe and have no give for the regular. For the cost of the deluxe, the gratuity should be included instead of the refillable mug, then I might be more willing to do it again :)

MKCP5
05-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Someone tell me again what the DDXP is? We have the DDP in August, and I know there is an upgrade, but not sure what it is or the cost. I know I have seen alot about the DDP being too much and I dont get it either. I think we will be fine, and mau even wish we had a couple more credits b cause I would like to do a signature one night but haye to use 2 credits each

nmmom95
05-07-2009, 05:35 PM
Someone tell me again what the DDXP is? We have the DDP in August, and I know there is an upgrade, but not sure what it is or the cost. I know I have seen alot about the DDP being too much and I dont get it either. I think we will be fine, and mau even wish we had a couple more credits b cause I would like to do a signature one night but haye to use 2 credits each

DXDP entitles you to three meals per day with any combination of TS or CS that you choose. It includes appetizers at TS meals, a refillable mug, and 2 snacks per day as well.

We usually do the DDP, but will be trying the DXDP on our next trip. We like to do character meals and shows such as the Hoop-Dee-Doo Review and Spirit of Aloha. My DS's (11 & 6) are picky eaters and TS meals keep them from eating nothing but chicken fingers. I'm expecting them to sprout feathers any day now! :laughing: It also gives us a nice break during the day. I have heard that it is a lot of food, but the themed restaurants are a fun experience.

jlw29
05-07-2009, 06:54 PM
We just got back from using the DxDP for a 6d/5n trip. I, like some previous posters, thought it would NOT be too much food as DH is a big eater, DD13 has become a bottomless pit and I have an average to above average appetite. The only light eater was DD11. Long story short, it WAS too much food for us and we did a few room service meals and several signature meals. There's no way we could have eaten 3 TS every day! The heat really zaps your appetite (except DD13 she ate non-stop. Ahh the metabolism of a teenager!).

Even with it feeling like too much food, we probably will use the DxDP over DDP again as we are appetizer people and I like having things prepaid. Even though you don't get the "best value" we would probably order fewer desserts and share meals more often.

sarahk0204
05-07-2009, 09:58 PM
I think one of the reasons people find the plan to be too much food is because they're thinking about getting the most from it rather than eating the way they want to. So they're eating larger and heavier meals than they really want, eating dessert even if they're full, not "wasting" snack credits on drinks when they're thirsty, etc. We love the plan, but we use it the way we want to eat. Sure, we'd get more dollar value out of it if we ordered steak at every meal, shipped bottled water to the resort so we could conserve our snack credits for sweets, and ordered dessert whether we wanted it or not. but we get our money's worth and a fair savings by eating what we want even if that means the cheapest entree on the menu and skipping dessert.

I think this is a key point. We used the regular DDP last July and will use it again this June. Our girl/boy twins were 4 last trip and are 5 this trip, so some of the things the OP mentioned - mid-day breaks in the AC, fruit and ice cream snacks, not having to jockey for a table - are important to us too. We didn't change our eating habits for WDW, and we didn't stress about leftover credits. I think we had 4 CS meals left over, essentially child's CS (although I know CS credits are not separated). I sure don't worry about the dining plan "rules" :rolleyes: like "only spend TS credits on dinner" (we usually do lunch), "never buy a 2TS meal" (we love Mickey's Backyard BBQ), etc. We might even do Deluxe someday, but since we stay at a resort with a full kitchen (FW cabins), 2 meals/day works for our family. If we ever tried another resort, I might look into Deluxe. However, I wouldn't plan on 3 TS/day even then.

PrincessTrisha
05-08-2009, 08:54 AM
The one reason I want it for my June/July trip is because it's going to be so hot. Yes, the heat makes you not want to eat - but by the time I sit down in a nice air conditioned restaurant, sip a cold drink and look over the menu, I'll be ready to eat. For me, in the heat, counter service is out - I can't eat when it's too hot (I am actually sick to my stomach) and not eating all day is not an option for me (I always say, I can be tired OR hungry but not both).

Do I expect it to be a lot of food? Absolutely!

Do I expect that there are times I won't want to eat all 3 courses or finish everything on my plate? Absolutely!

Do I think that I'll get lazy and not want to leave my air conditioned hotel room and order room service? Absolutely!

Will I have snack credits left over at the end to use up on treats to bring home for family and friends? Absolutely!

Will I come home 5-7 pounds heavier? Absolutely! (but I expect that most of that is, ummm, additional intestinel weight :confused3 I'm going to call it - so a few good movements later and I'm back to normal - and I'm not trying to be gross but this seems to happen every trip. I come home bloated and within a week or two I'm back normal).

But, on the flip side:

I don't have to pick 8 restaurants - I can choose up to 24

I can order the salad or soup without thinking, "$8 for a bowl of soup - are they insane! :scared1:"

I can finally try more of the signature restaurants.

I can have a character breakfast without cringing at the bill (either because of the cost $$ or because I think of it as a "waste" on the DDP).

I can order room service without guilt or hesitation (even the expensive entrees!)

I don't have to purchase a case of water and a case of pop for the room or pack snacks or breakfast foods for the room (I plan on using some snack credits on the first day to put a few drinks in the fridge and a couple of snack items in the room for those late night munchies or a little something before heading out in the morning).

I can relax knowing that all of my dining needs are taken care of and I don't have to worry about the # of credits I have because I know I'll have enough (maybe one extra which can be used for a picnic lunch for the trip home).

Faldred
05-08-2009, 09:28 AM
We did deluxe in March (myself, DW, DS3, DD2, and DS2) for exactly the reasons you have listed in post #1, and it worked out great for us.

When people talk about the "time away from the park", they often underestimate just how long it takes to order from CS, find a table (and high chairs or boosters, if necessary!), and actually eat, especially with young children who may take their time. Even more so if you're trying to keep on a "normal" schedule which may include trying to eat at peak lunch times.

We did roughly half CS and half TS for the lunches we were there (3 and 4, respectively), and I thought that the TS meals went much better than the CS ones. It made us be a bit more schedule-oriented, but we had shorter waits (and in AC) and more relaxed meals. As such, we didn't need to take afternoons off to go back to the resort (it helped that the twins napped in their stroller and DS3 [now 4] doesn't take naps) -- the 60-75 minutes for a quiet TS meal did a lot to keep everyone's energy level up.

As for "too much food", as long as you don't "pig out" on the buffets, I don't see a problem. Granted, I'm a big eater (easy to do, and still lose weight, on Atkins), but the increased activity level and being out in the sun makes me hungrier anyway. Only once did I feel "too full", and that was after breakfast at Crystal Palace (the puffed french toast is toooooo good...)

ExtinctDino
05-08-2009, 09:47 AM
Everyone's different. No one should feel obliged to justify their own choice to others. And no one should judge others' choices.

Dani C
05-08-2009, 10:04 AM
For me it isn't the number of meals that make it "too much food" but rather the size of portions.

I do not like to waste food, but neither will I force myself to eat much more than is considered to be healthy as recommended by physicians. Some people need extreme amounts of calories each day, but most do not. If you look at the portion sizes in many countries you will notice that they are much smaller than what is given in the US. We have lost the idea that most everything is good "in moderation", while many countries have not. This is also visible in the growing number of overweight people in this country, which is not as visible in many other countries that never caught the "super size me" bug.

Henlady
05-08-2009, 10:26 AM
DH and I have used the DDP several times. We do not find it to be too much food. We normally either do not eat breakfast or get something light, useing a snack credit for a muffin or something. We eat lunch at around 11:30/12:00
and DH usually gets a burger or hot dogs and I get a salad of some type.
Then we have our table service meal at around 6:30/7:00. We occasionally purchase one or two appetizers OOP. I end up useing most of the snack credits for big rice Krispie treats to bring back for my adult "kids".
I guess I should say that this is how we eat at home also. We eat lunch each day and I cook supper everynight, so we are used to two "meals" a day. If you are not used to eating lunch and supper, that may be the reason that the DDP seems like too much food.

Smiling Cheshire Cat
05-08-2009, 10:51 AM
We did basic DDP in March and since we usually eat one big meal and one small meal if that here at home it seemed like too much food for us. But when you're on vacation I say splurge and eat as much as you like.

I can't wait to try the Deluxe when we do an adults only trip so we can eat at as many signature restaurants as we want.

Do what you think is best for your family. If you are used to eating 3 meals a day you will probably get your money's worth.

Happy eating.:goodvibes

mwatson011
06-04-2009, 04:31 PM
The OP's reasons are exactly the reasons we went with the deluxe ddp in January with dd2 and dd3. We enjoyed character breakfasts every day, had a nice break for lunch, and a nice dinner.

We are going back in Dec. and we are getting the deluxe ddp again. It is a lot of food if you try to eat everything you are offered at every meal. Breakfast buffets were great because we could try a little bit of everything and the girls left knowing they had met 4 or 5 characters already, so we were never on a "hunt" for characters during the day. Lunch was our main meal, as we learned quickly that often dinner was me and dh eating with the girls using their plates as pillows :rotfl:.

It is fun to be able to indulge, but remember noone is forcing you to eat all of that food. DH and I split meals on a few occasions, and one waitress was convinced we were crazy for not taking desserts to go, but we knew we wouldn't eat them, so why waste them? If every person who gets any ddp maxes each meal/snack out, the prices will go up. Disney sets the prices on average, so if you are taking the dessert just to throw it away on principle that you "paid" for it, don't be surprised next time when you pay even more for it!

Just enjoy what you like, and go with the flow, that is what we did and we had a wonderful time!

tnd
06-04-2009, 04:52 PM
I don't feel like it's too much food, but I also eat lightly if I feel like it, since I am not worried about wringing every extra cent of value out of the plan. We also space our meals as much as possible, and I've taken dessert to go several times, eating it later in the evening or the next day.

My husband doesn't love CS food, so we would do more TS anyway and the DxDP fits our style better. We love appetizers, and almost always order them. We also like 3 meals per day, especially our son, who needs that structure. We also like the snacks, even though we had 10 left last time and we bought a bunch of great candies and treats at the Main Street Confectionary.

poegirl30
06-04-2009, 07:07 PM
Last May, we used the DxDP, but we had four kids (two teenage boys, (my son and nephew), who ate EVERYTHING put in front of them, my DD (16, who didn't eat much but the boys ate her leftovers, and my 2 yr old, who ate off my plate). It was fine for us, but I could see how it could be too much if you didn't have big eaters, or growing boys who never seem to get full. ;)

Tricia1972
06-04-2009, 08:51 PM
The DXDDP is too much for the way that I eat. True, I eat three meals a day at home, but generally I have a bowl of cereal or some fruit for breakfast. A sandwich or a salad for lunch, and chicken with a vegetable and a side dish for dinner. Occasionally I'll have fruit for desert and quite often I'll have some cheese or crackers for my 'snacks' throughout the day.

On the DxDDP I get a LOT more food than what I am used to. I don't eat dessert at every meal every day, I would never have an appetizer, entree and dessert on a regular basis. I have only done the DDP and it was fun for me for the first few days that I did it, but day after day of eating like that wasn't fun for me, and I was always stuffed. I know that you don't need to order all that you're entitled to, but if I order food at Disney that is similar to the way that I ususally eat, I spend hundreds of dollars less than what a DDP or DxDDP would cost. For me it just doen't make sense financially.

That's just me, everyone is different and I don't fault anyone who likes the plan. You just aske for some different viewpoints, so I thought that I'd share mine. :goodvibes

squirrel
06-05-2009, 12:49 AM
We went during Free Dining last year and there was plenty of food on the DDP.

I remember waking up some mornings and actually feeling like ordering a larger breakfast (CS credit) but by the time I got to the food court I wasn't that hungry.

I think it depends on what time of year you go also. It was just so hot in September that I didn't feel like eating large meals.

BelleLovesTheBeast
06-05-2009, 01:00 PM
I have to second PrinessTrisha's response. We feel the same way. We love the DDP and get to order things we wouldn't if we were paying out of pocket.

We start our day at 7 am and go until midnight so getting 2 full meals a day keeps us going. Also we NEVER go back to the resort in the middle of the day to relax so this gets us out of the hot sun and relaxing for an hour and half.

Last time we did use a lot of our snack credits on items to take home. However we went to Kringle's and places like that and got really good snacks to take back home.

DCDisney
06-06-2009, 12:31 PM
For us it isn't just the too much food it is also too much time. Especially for the OP with 2 little kids do you want to spend 3-6 hours per day sitting at a TS meal? By the time you travel to your meal location, wait to be seated and eat the meal it is often 2 hours. We do like to sit and have the down time but 3 times per day would just be too much. The kids TS meals are mostly so alike as well that my kids got totally turned off by them in a few days and even the ice cream for dessert (same every where) was a total bore for them. I did consider upgrading on our next trip to deluxe since we are staying at AKL and could just eat at Boma each morning and then do a few 2 TS places for dinner but decided it wasn't worth having to wake up earlier each day to do that. The reg DDP was def too much food on our last trip because we went in Jan and with the shorter park hours if we ate CS lunch at 11ish and snack at 2ish we often really weren't that hungry for dinner at 5-6ish but if we waited for a later dinner we would miss all the evening stuff. We do normally eat 3 meals a day but don't normally eat a full dessert with lunch and then a big ice cream or funnel cake mid-afternoon and another dessert with dinner ;) If we skipped a meal we weren't that hungry for it would negate all the savings with the DDP. Had I not gotten it for free with a pin for our next trip we wouldn't have gotten it again.

singnring
06-06-2009, 05:41 PM
For those who are saying they just don't order all the stuff offered w/ the DxDP, have you done the math to see if you are paying more for the plan than you would if you paid OOP?

I guess I am thinking that if you skip the dessert, and skip the appetizer, or use a CS rather than TS, you seem to be losing a lot of the value intended by using the plan.

Having things pre-paid only goes so far!
If you are paying an extra $200 for something you aren't using, it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.

Just curious - no attack against anyone, so please don't misinterpret this!! Just wondering if any of you have worked the numbers.

Colleen27
06-06-2009, 06:37 PM
For those who are saying they just don't order all the stuff offered w/ the DxDP, have you done the math to see if you are paying more for the plan than you would if you paid OOP?

I guess I am thinking that if you skip the dessert, and skip the appetizer, or use a CS rather than TS, you seem to be losing a lot of the value intended by using the plan.

Having things pre-paid only goes so far!
If you are paying an extra $200 for something you aren't using, it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.

Just curious - no attack against anyone, so please don't misinterpret this!! Just wondering if any of you have worked the numbers.

Down to the penny. Seriously. I have a spreadsheet set up to add up our likely menu choices complete with tax to compare against the cost of the plan. With the 4 adults in our group sharing 2 desserts at most meals, my numbers show a savings of $850. That number is based on using 21 of our 24 credits for TS (over a total of 15 meals - most of our dinners are signatures), with no value assigned to the leftover credits yet and an average snack credit value of a pessimistically low $2. Skipping a few appetizers/desserts or even switching out some ADRs in favor of counter service isn't going to make that much of a difference.

PrincessTrisha
06-06-2009, 08:57 PM
For those who are saying they just don't order all the stuff offered w/ the DxDP, have you done the math to see if you are paying more for the plan than you would if you paid OOP?

I guess I am thinking that if you skip the dessert, and skip the appetizer, or use a CS rather than TS, you seem to be losing a lot of the value intended by using the plan.

Having things pre-paid only goes so far!
If you are paying an extra $200 for something you aren't using, it doesn't seem like it would be worth it.

Just curious - no attack against anyone, so please don't misinterpret this!! Just wondering if any of you have worked the numbers.

What I did is looked at the meals I absolutely wanted and want I estimate I would order if money was no object. Once I had the cost of those meals I looked at what they would cost and compared them to the cost of the plan. I know even using some credits for counter service and skipping dessert a few times, and uses snack credits to bring home treats, I'm still coming out ahead.

for instance, the day I'll be enjoying Yachtsmen steakhouse, that meal (2 credits) covers my daily cost plus a little bit - so my other meal and snack that day are "free" so if I don't maximize them, no big deal.

On another day I have the princess breakfast and Le Cellier booked - those two meals again come to more than the cost of the plan (even if I skip the appetizer or dessert at Le Cellier, which I doubt I will but, I COULD) - my 3rd credit and snack for that day are again "free".

Stormhawk
06-06-2009, 11:59 PM
Which Plan is definitely a personal choice, but for many I don't think the DxDP is too much food. When we went a few years back we were on the Premium plan and this time we're doing the Platinum (from a meal standpoint same as DxDP but all Sig are 1 Credit and there are a few more resturants on the list). For us (2 adult males an 1 young tween girl), have the flexibility is definitely worth it. As the OP alluded too, using the Lunch TS makes a great break and we find that building in several character breakfasts saves a lot of meet & greet headaches. So for those that point to the time factor, we find it a wash (even a slight savings). I would say that trying to min/max the "value" of the plan ruins it. As several have pointed out it can pay for itself without trying to get every dollar, but the fun is the freedom and getting to try new things. I do find the current versions children's menu frankly sad (which is why we upgraded the 9 year old to an adult plan) but allow the kids to pick one of the two ap for lunch and dinner goes a long way to getting them some more interesting food options.

If you think DxDP would be a good choice for you, I would suggest trying it at least once. For us, the 3 TS an 2 snacks are well worth it as dining in interesting/different places is part of the fun of a vacation.

Bill and Jen
06-07-2009, 01:35 AM
We did the DxDDP last June.

Way too much food for us.

Other negative was to make it even close to worthwhile you need 2 TS a day. You need ADRs for most of the places so now you have 2 times you need to be at a restaruant. We found this to be way to intrusivce into the day, Working around 1 reservation was easy 2 made it feel like all we did was eat.

This year we are doing free dinning. I did the math, we are having 2 extra TS and plan on QS 3rd meal each day and buying refillibale mugs. Ended up being $400 less when i did the math with tax then upgrading to have the 3 meals a day.

So if you do alot of TS it WILL save you money. Do the math no matter what. What you find out might suprise you. Use allears.net and you can figure it out close to the penny.

caroline1851
06-07-2009, 07:17 AM
Because the food is much heavier than what I eat at home each day, eating 3 WDW meals plus 2 snacks a day would be too much for me. AT home, i eat cereal for breakfast, protein shake for a snack. salad for lunch, fruit for snack and then chicken and veggies for dinner. Sure, that's 3 meals and 2 snacks but it's not heavy.

But that being said, if i could afford it, i totally could see doing the DXDDP by having a buffet early breakfast, 2 snacks during the day and a 2 credit dinner (hoop dee doo, crt, etc.) On the DX though, i would not be able to eat an appetizer, meal and dessert. I'd probaly either pick appetizer OR dessert.That's doesn't seem like too much food to me.

The DDP is totally NOT too much food. I've done it and definently don't understand how on earth people can feel this way, though for small kids, it's actually not enough. My kids needed extra little snacks throughout the day. With the ddp, i had to pay oop an additional $150 for extra food. For example, if I had an omelet with juice for breakfast (didn't eat the home fries but gave the muffin to dd2 for her breakfast), i'm full. The extra juice was brought to the park as something for later. (1 cs credit used), then and adr ts lunch at 1:30. Well, i'd need more than just a snack to cover the rest of the day, for example. We did every day differently, but that's just an example. I wish the DDP had 1 ts, 1 cs and 2 snacks instead of 1.

sorry for the long response. :)

fey_spirit
06-17-2009, 01:24 PM
We found that when we went in January (with the early hours) having late dinners was a god send.

We love the DXDP (Mostly because I hate CS, I wont eat Fast Food at home, why do it on Vacation?)

We get our first meal on the way out or at the first bakery we hit inside the parks using our first SC of the day. (So a water and a pastry for breakfast) - this is at Rope Drop

Hit a lunch at about 2pm after the parks are peaking and when we could really stand to take a small break.

Then schedule dinner for the last possible seating for a Signature restaurant so that we can head in after the parks close and spend an hour or two over a leisurely meal before heading back to the room.

What night activities are there after the parks close? We do it this way so that we don't end up stuck in our rooms with nothing to do too early.

For us it isn't just the too much food it is also too much time. Especially for the OP with 2 little kids do you want to spend 3-6 hours per day sitting at a TS meal? By the time you travel to your meal location, wait to be seated and eat the meal it is often 2 hours. We do like to sit and have the down time but 3 times per day would just be too much. The kids TS meals are mostly so alike as well that my kids got totally turned off by them in a few days and even the ice cream for dessert (same every where) was a total bore for them. I did consider upgrading on our next trip to deluxe since we are staying at AKL and could just eat at Boma each morning and then do a few 2 TS places for dinner but decided it wasn't worth having to wake up earlier each day to do that. The reg DDP was def too much food on our last trip because we went in Jan and with the shorter park hours if we ate CS lunch at 11ish and snack at 2ish we often really weren't that hungry for dinner at 5-6ish but if we waited for a later dinner we would miss all the evening stuff. We do normally eat 3 meals a day but don't normally eat a full dessert with lunch and then a big ice cream or funnel cake mid-afternoon and another dessert with dinner ;) If we skipped a meal we weren't that hungry for it would negate all the savings with the DDP. Had I not gotten it for free with a pin for our next trip we wouldn't have gotten it again.

ExPirateShopGirl
06-18-2009, 07:31 PM
We enjoy the regular dining plan. If we got the deluxe we'd be spending way too much time in restaurants, not to mention the excess food. One TS per day is plenty for us. We aim to get up early every morning and do things but when that annoying call from stitch comes through we're more likely to try and sleep a few more minutes before figuring out what we're in the mood to do. One breakfast TS meal over the course of a 10-day visit is plenty!

As far as the CS credits go, we never end up having a meal that is remotely close to 'fast food'. Between Sunshine seasons, CHH, anywhere on the world showcase, flametree, Earl of Sandwich, we have no shortage of good food.

Finally, some of the things you can get with Snack Credits are big enough for 2 or 3 people. Dole whip, School bread, Main street bakery ice cream cookie sandwich, etc.

We also like to leave (gasp) Disney property and venture elsewhere.


So, for these reasons, along with the heat and humidity, we never end up using up all our credits. We don't even try. Why pay an additional $90 + per day for things we'll never eat? If one of us insists on an appetizer, that will cost approx $10 to $15. Better $15 a pop than $900 regardless.

DaParkers
06-18-2009, 10:04 PM
I would never pay full price for the DxDDP, but I will pay $32 which is the cost with the free DDP. And since it is only $32, I will be getting it for our upcoming trip at the end of Sept. Also, I can use some snack credits at the Food and Wine festival.

brymolmom
06-19-2009, 07:21 AM
Every family is different but for MY family, a few of your comments do not ring true. I have ds7 and dd5 but we've done the plan since they were younger too.

1) Even though my kids are on a schedule - they DO NOT want to sit at a restaurant for their 3 meals a day. Restaurants involve a lot of sitting, a lot of needing to be quiet and some amount of waiting (for the table, for the food, etc.) - my kids DO NOT want to do this 2 or 3 times a day - 1 time a day works just great for us.
Actually - we even do 1 or 2 two credit meal because the whole family gets very sick of the restaurant scene by the end of longer trips.
2) You THINK that snacks will be easy to use up, but really, you're likely NOT going to want MORE ice cream. I always thought that even on the basic plan - that I would use my credits on ice cream every day. However, each meal includes a dessert - and the TS ones are often ice cream. How many sweets can you really have in a day? We do get mickey ice cream bars - but likely only about 3 days that we're there and Mom and Dad don't usually even want them - so we only use 2 Snack credits on them.
3) We bring cereal in our luggage and do a quick breakfast in the room most days (with a couple snack credits too for a banana or muffin). For us, this works great as mom and dad can shower while the kids eat and we're out the door and to the bus much more quickly.
4) Now that they've removed the appetizer from the basic plan, I, for one, likely won't consider it 'too much' food for our family - but JUST ENOUGH. If we end up with unused credits it would only be a few and only due to mis-management, not because it was too much.
5) Going to some buffets and paying an occassional OOP for the 2 year old who has to share would be much less expensive than the deluxe.
6) Honestly even if I could justify (which I couldn't) getting the deluxe, I wouldn't want to pay all those tips too! That adds up to WAY more than I would ever spend on food on a vacation.

Good luck with your decision.

M-J's Mommy
06-19-2009, 09:24 AM
Having 3 sit-down meals is perfect for my DD2 and I. She is very laid back and needs to take breaks from the sensory overload that is Disney every couple of hours and I love to eat, so it is a win-win. On top of that, she LOVES steak, so we will be able to have that every day if we so choose with the Deluxe plan. I'm looking forward to it.

KimiCoconuts
06-19-2009, 02:06 PM
I used to wonder about why people said there was too much food etc. as well. I thought I would NEVER feel that way! Fast forward to free dining, regular plan and we had WAY TOO much food! We were stuffed our entire trip and at the end of the week we had 17 snack credits. We even would take food to the room for the morning and wouldn't wake up hungry. I have never been so full in my life. That being said, the food was delicious and great. I frequently skipped desserts and still was stuffed. I would get fruit instead of dessert and still was stuffed. Get the picture? I can't imagine paying the extra money for even more food. It would be like paying $32 a day for an extra snack and breakfast. Not even close to worth it when I multiply it by 4. I can eat for less than that and pay OOP for my breakfast if I actually wanted to eat a full one.

I also agree with the other people that said table service takes a lot of time out of your day. Not to mention you have to figure in the tips, which they ask you for 18% of whatever your bill is, it's nothing to sneeze at when you add that cost into your trip.