Yo ho: Pirate makeover coming to Magic Kingdom in June: Updated with the prices

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_orlando/2009/04/disney-world-magic-kingdom-adventureland-pirates-league-jack-sparrow.html

[backyardponder]

Aaarg!!!!

[Peter Pirate 2]

Now that's magical...Did I say magical? I meant pathetic.
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[OrlandoMike]

Doesn't say where..

Adventureland Verandah? Hmmmm :confused3

[Sosai X]

They should go one better.. take a barge or other boat, give it a Flying Dutchman overlay, and take the newly madeover "pirates" on an adventure-filled cruise around the Seven Seas Lagoon, and for an additional fee their parents can be made to walk the plank!

[Dznefreek]

Doesn't say where..

Adventureland Verandah? Hmmmm

The League will be located in the area between the entrance to the Pirates of the Caribbean attraction and the Pirates Merchandise shop. (Disney says this is currently backstage territory.)

But hang tight, mateys: Reservations cannot be made until May 11.

[mrsR123]

I thought a lot about this-- which is saying someting about my degree of spring fever. My first reaction was that it was sad.

Then I thought, well, it's not that different from having a child's face painted at the local zoo and souvenir shopping.


That's when I decided it was indeed pathetic; I can have face painting done inexpensively-- or for free about four times a year-- at the zoo right here in beautiful Central Ill. and purchase my own souvenirs. But Disney is going to charge a ridiculous fee and take reservations.

I suppose we brand monkeys only have ourselves to blame what with the way we lap up these exclusive, must-do experiences. I gotta say, though, my taste for the company Kool-aid is diminishing. I'm tired of shelling out extra cash for magic. MK is enough for me already.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Maybe WDW felt since the little girls already have two Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique locations, they wanted to do something similar for little boys and they are assuming it will have the same success as the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique.

[Metro West]

But Disney is going to charge a ridiculous fee and take reservations. Sure they will and what's even more pathetic is people are going to happily pay it. :rolleyes1

[the who #3]

boy are you people discriminatory!!! did you have such things to say about bibbity bobbity boo? :sad2: maybe your just cheap. after all it can all be purchased at the local 5 & 10 and not make your kids feel quite as special.

i think the objective is to make the child, adult or whoever feel special and for them to enjoy the process of knowing what it's like to be the movie star getting made over for the days shooting events.princess:pirate::bride::clown:and yes, even mickey mouse himself.

i apologize if i insulted anyone who is just complaining because they can not afford this. in that case try to make your loved one feel as special as possible:flower3:and accept my apology.:goodvibes

[CarnotaurDad]

Am I missing why I should be outraged over this? If you don't want to do it, you don't have to do it. But I can think of many families for whom this would be a great opportunity.

Again, it is a good way for Disney to raise money AND for people to get something they value. Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean other people won't enjoy it or feel they get value from it.

Sometimes I wonder what people want Disney to do. If they don't raise money, they have to cutback and people complain and moan about the cutbacks. If they try to raise money, people complain about the way in which they are raising money.

Oh, well. What can they do. :confused3

[mrsR123]

FWIW, I objected to Bibbidy-bobbidy, too, because I think it's excessive, creepy, and bordering objectification of pre-pubescent girls. And no, I don't object because I can't afford it. Just because I have the money doesn't mean I have to spend it on something I don't see as a good value.

And wow! I didn't realize how far the pixie-dust meter had swayed. Next thing, I'll be the BARON.

[gymnastgirlflips]

I think it's a good idea. Little boys need to feel special just as much as little girls. It's not like you have to go in there andgive them a makeover either, it's a families choice. It seems like a pretty magical experience to me, and if I were the kid I would never forget it.

[dee1843]

I don't post often, but I wanted to give my view. I am in favor of this idea and am excited to say we will be at Disney 2 days before it starts and I hope to make a reservation for my 6 yr old son. I am extremely frugal and coupon and deal shop for my family. I realize I could do the same thing for Connor at home for a fraction of the cost, but he is my only child and he's growing up so fast this will be something he can remember and make him feel very special. I have already spoke with his grandparents who will be at Disney with us and we are all pitching in to give the event to Connor as his birthday present. Is it a marketing ploy? Yes, and I think it's a good one to finally have something for the boys. I bet they could do even better with a father son package! Come on all you overgrown kids, speak up! I know there's a pirate in you!!

Deanna

[kadesha]

I think it's a great idea! Little girls have been enjoying BBB for quite some time now. I'm glad that little boys will be able to have a similar experience!

[Tissa]

I think it is about time. The girls have plenty of opportunities to dress up and pretend and believe in the magic. Now the boys have something too. Being able to dress up like a pirate and walk around the MK is a lot different than getting your face painted at a local zoo.

It may not be for everyone but it's not pathetic either. Of course I think I'm in the wrong area because I actually agree with something Disney does. Gotta quit snorting the pixie dust I guess.

[Jajone]

I'm going to join in as well and say I've been looking for the perfect "extra" thing for DD to do on our mother/daughter trip. Since she is all about pirates and Johnny Depp, this will be perfect for her.

[SonicGuy]

It took us 20 years to have a son and I hope this is around in a few years when he is old enough - he's only 14 months now. I think this is great! People have been giving their sons their own "pirate makeover" for awhile now so Disnyey is right on track to capitalize on it. A great idea!

[mitros]

Now that's magical...Did I say magical? I meant pathetic.
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.....or maybe pitiful. Can you say, KA-CHING!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Wonder what they are going to remove to make way for this thing.

[IMACM]

This looks awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to book it for guests!!

[LIDisneyFan]

Great timing-with all of the activity with Pirate ships off the coast of Somalia.

[tink1969]

WOW!! Have some of you forgotten what it's like to be a little kid?
Lighten up! If people want to splurge and make a magical moment for their children...what business is it of yours?
NO, it's not borderline objectification of pre-pubescent girls, NO, it's got nothing to do with the timing of pirates off the coast of Somalia...geez!
What's wrong with some of you people?

[mitros]

WOW!! Have some of you forgotten what it's like to be a little kid?
Lighten up! If people want to splurge and make a magical moment for their children...what business is it of yours?
NO, it's not borderline objectification of pre-pubescent girls, NO, it's got nothing to do with the timing of pirates off the coast of Somalia...geez!
What's wrong with some of you people?

EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion...............including you, so maybe you need to lighten up.

[Todd&Copper]

Given the terrible problems with Somali pirates lately, is any pirate make-over really in good taste? Pirates are not just a bunch of mischievious drunks who want to pillage from the rich. They are murderous, thieving rapists.

[enchantingodin]

WOW... everyone - just WOW. :eek:

Well being a mom of 2 boys I have often felt disney is catering to the girls a little too much. I mean they have more than their share of princess dining and the BBB.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think it's be cool if they brought a pirate character meal to liberty tavern. That would be SO easy to do. Why do the girls get to have all the fun?

As for those guessing where it will be - I think I know. Way back when the open air shop was more of a 'garden' than what it is today. Once you get off the ride there is a wall on your right. If you go about 3/4s of the way down you'll see a set of double doors. Now it says "cast members only". But at one time it was a shop. Maybe 20' by 30' in size. I don't remember all the things that were in there as it's been a many good years. But I think they had one of the glass sculptors in there, I remember I used to love watching them as a kid.

Now I'm not saying I'm gonna rush to make a reservation - but I think it's a cute idea for those who are really into it. pirate:

[LIDisneyFan]

My point about the Somali pairates was that timing is everything, and that this was particularly bad timing for Disney-not that they CHOSE it, just that it happened.

Boy, you DO need to lighten up a bit.

[Peter Pirate 2]

IMO, this is the kind of schlock that has ruined Disney. I can't believe so many people buy into the notion that you can buy your kids precious memories.

First of all the really young ones won't remember this crap past their 10th birthdays anyway and secondly I think as good and loving parents there are much, much better options for special family moments, that are much more genuine than a contrived Disney moment. We, as a family, have a boatload full and aside from being at Disney I'd say none include extra cost events - although I'm not saying some of these events can't be monumentous, per se....I'm just saying a Princess or Pirate makeover seems contrived and...Well, lazy to me.
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[P.I. Squirrel]

FWIW, I objected to Bibbidy-bobbidy, too, because I think it's excessive, creepy, and bordering objectification of pre-pubescent girls.

Objectification? What's next, they can't be princesses because fairy tales are make believe? Honestly, the only difference between Bibbidy and a normal haircut and style is scale. It makes the kids feel good about themselves, especially before they go see their favorite princess at a resort or restaurant. Besides, you took them to a theme park with a castle. A castle with no princesses? Why, that's just wrong. :)

I had been complaining on another thread that WDW needed something for boys. Now, I am getting something, and I am happier. I would definitely take my son to it.

[CJS~MOMMY]

Ok as a mother of one boy who really ,no REALLY wants a girl to fuss over as far as dressing her all up, I fussed last year wishing they had something for boys since it was our first trip.
This year however since we worry about the economy more,I'm glad my 3 year old isn't in to pirates. He has informed me though he wants a "hair tut" at "Dinney Wald".So Im sure we will make a trip to the barber in MK and get him a lil color too.;)

[Meg13]

I think it sounds cute. I know that if I were a tad younger, I would absolutely love this (I am so not princess material; give me a sword over a tiara any day!). If some can unleash their inner princess, why not let the pirates have a litte fun? pirate:

[the who #3]

i am planning to watch the boys and men come out of there with all of their new looks. it will be fun.;)

we took my granddaughter to bibbity last christmas and she had a great time.princess: my grandson did not want to go there but would have loved the pirate do. we did, however go by the barber shop at mk and he got a great hair cut and and a little added color! we all loved that and decided that we will do that for both kids this year. yes, they do hair for girls as well and it's a great little shop.

my grandson will probably like to do the pirate gig also. i think it will be lots of fun.

i might even want a bandanna and a scar myself!pirate:

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/tours-and-experiences/pirates-league/

Transform yerself from a land lubber into a true buccaneer! Captain Jack Sparrow is looking for pirates of all ages to join the crew of the Black Pearl. Starting June 29, 2009, visit their "secret" recruiting center in the Magic Kingdom Park. Jack's crew has pillaged the East India Trading Company's office in Adventureland, loading it up with plundered booty to create The Pirates League, where you can get yerself a whole new identity complete with name, look and pirate portrait!


It's a Pirate's Life for You!

Ahoy, mateys! Begin your piratical transformation when you receive your Official Pirate Name as recorded from the leather-bound captain's log. Next, stop by the Muster Station and leave your old self behind as the Pirate Masters perform a marauder's makeover. Hear the ways of the scurvy sea dogs as they apply yer buccaneer beard, scars, earrings and eye patches. Or even be ye a boney pirate and wear your skeleton on yer skin!

Once you have fully transformed, enter the Secret Room where your Pirate Portrait is taken for posterity and the Pirate Masters reveal their hidden treasure.

But the fun is just beginning. With your new pirate identity and map case folder, hoist yer colors and embark on a challenge in Adventureland that will shiver yer timbers!

Choose a Package

The Pirates League offers 3 packages—"The First Mate Package," "The Empress Package" and "The Captain's Package". All packages include a sword and sheath, earring and eye patch, tattoo, exclusive pirate coin necklace, map case folder, and a personalized pirate oath!

The First Mate Package at $49.95 plus tax includes:

Bandana (reversible)
Choice of Facial Effect look: Cursed Pirate, Captain Hook or Captain Jack
Fake Teeth
One (1) 5x7 picture

Empress Package at $49.95 plus tax includes:

Bandana (reversible)
Shimmering Makeup Makeover
Face Gem
Nail Polish
One (1) 5x7 picture

Additional pirate costumes for this package are available for purchase at The Pirates League.

The Captains Package at $124.95 plus tax includes:

Choice of pirate costume
Choice of Facial Effect look: Cursed Pirate, Captain Hook or Captain Jack
Fake Teeth
Three (3) 5" x 7" pictures

Make Your Reservations

For ages 3 and up. Starting May 11, 2009, The Pirates League is accepting reservations when you call (407) WDW-CREW (939-2739). Theme park admission required. Open 7 days a week from 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.

Join the crew—it's a pirate's life for you!

[skater]

It sounds like fun. I'm a little surprised at some of the reactions here. Sure you're entitled to your opinions - but my opionion is somewhat opposite :goodvibes. Of course pirates are really very very bad. Its also true that people and elephants can't fly. Its all about the fantasy.

And going to Disney is expensive - its not so crazy to spend more money to give a little boy an extra thrill. Do I need to spend that much money to make a memory - of course not! Will it be a memory - Oh yes! Anyway, I've spent more than that on a mediocre meal at Disney :).

And the argument about not remembering it under 10? Who cares? That's the argument I heard when I took my 3 yr old to Disney. "Why are you taking her now? She won't remember it." They might not remember every detail, but fun experiences do impact them positively. If that's not true, why don't we just lock our kids in the closet until they're 10 ;).

[Mouseaholic!!!]

IMO, this is the kind of schlock that has ruined Disney. I can't believe so many people buy into the notion that you can buy your kids precious memories.

First of all the really young ones won't remember this crap past their 10th birthdays anyway and secondly I think as good and loving parents there are much, much better options for special family moments, that are much more genuine than a contrived Disney moment. We, as a family, have a boatload full and aside from being at Disney I'd say none include extra cost events - although I'm not saying some of these events can't be monumentous, per se....I'm just saying a Princess or Pirate makeover seems contrived and...Well, lazy to me.
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DITTO!

$124.95 <--- that's crazy

Last 3 sets of friends who returned from WDW trips (all 3 families were disney first-timers and traveled independ of each other)......what was said.....

* They sure know how to separate you from your $$$

* Too expensive - not a nice as you had said (dirty)

* No interest in going again...always had to pull out our wallets


Here is another reason

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[skater]

[QUOTE=Mouseaholic!!!;31692982]DITTO!

$124.95 <--- that's crazy

Last 3 sets of friends who returned from WDW trips (all 3 families were disney first-timers and traveled independ of each other)......what was said.....

* They sure know how to separate you from your $$$

* Too expensive - not a nice as you had said (dirty)

* No interest in going again...always had to pull out our wallets


Here is another reason


I see your point about the money. I've felt that way about the parties sometimes. Its frustrating to have MK closed for 3 nights of your vacation. And the cost of the parties is pretty steep. However, the key word is choice. Nobody has to do the pirate thing. (And we may or may not). But its nice to have a choice.

[BayouMickey]

Nevermind Mouseaholic, he/she has been on an anti-Disney crusade..
Which I don't get why they bother to come to DIS if they are so done with WDW.
Anyway I think it's a neat idea. At least there's something for boys now. It's a start.

[Peter Pirate 2]

Nevermind Mouseaholic, he/she has been on an anti-Disney crusade..
Which I don't get why they bother to come to DIS if they are so done with WDW.
Anyway I think it's a neat idea. At least there's something for boys now. It's a start.

Mouseaholic has contributed far more to these boards than I've ever read from you. You fanboy/apologists are just sooo predictable but you're allowed your opinion, even if it's just superficial. But if anyone needs to be forgotten...
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[BayouMickey]

Mouseaholic has contributed far more to these boards than I've ever read from you. You fanboy/apologists are just sooo predictable but you're allowed your opinion, even if it's just superficial. But if anyone needs to be forgotten...
pirate:

Whoa lay off the prozac Bubbles. The stuff will kill ya! Mouse and I had a few disagreements but I never once laid a personal attack on them, or vice versa. I think they understand the concept of conflicting opinions and harmless banter, which apparently has gone waaay over your head. Am I a fanboy? Well yes! Which would probly explain why I'm on a DISNEY FANSITE.
I'm not about to toot my horn on what I contributed on the site, I know I've made people happy with my disigns, I know I gave knowledge of WDW to the best of my capability, and I know i've made quite a few friends here. I'm not in it for a popularity contest, I'm in it to celebrate what is Disney and spread what little bit of magic I can.
So go ahead go on your tirade, continue your failed attempt to belittle anyone you deem "superficial", and mask it all along with your identity behind the anonimenty of a keyboard and monitor. You're a dime a dozen, your kind plagues every form on bulletin boards available.

"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "

[Peter Pirate 2]

Whoa lay off the prozac Bubbles. The stuff will kill ya! Mouse and I had a few disagreements but I never once laid a personal attack on them, or vice versa. I think they understand the concept of conflicting opinions and harmless banter, which apparently has gone waaay over your head. Am I a fanboy? Well yes! Which would probly explain why I'm on a DISNEY FANSITE.
I'm not about to toot my horn on what I contributed on the site, I know I've made people happy with my disigns, I know I gave knowledge of WDW to the best of my capability, and I know i've made quite a few friends here. I'm not in it for a popularity contest, I'm in it to celebrate what is Disney and spread what little bit of magic I can.
So go ahead go on your tirade, continue your failed attempt to belittle anyone you deem "superficial", and mask it all along with your identity behind the anonimenty of a keyboard and monitor. You're a dime a dozen, your kind plagues every form on bulletin boards available.

"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "

Thanks there chief. :thumbsup2 I'm happy I have your approval to rant'n'rave, though truth be known you threw the first condescending jabs at Mouseoholic didn't you? Come on, admit it. ;)

Further it was you, the now admitted fanboy, who threw out the ever so clever and never seen before chide of "why do we even go to..." if we hate it so much gem. That's a good one that only someone who has no understanding of Disney history would dare utter. Maybe some of us LOVE Disney for what we remember, for what it once stood for, for the sheer quality of product. Is it so wrong for us to stick up for that, to rail against schlock like this makeover crap? I agree you have your right to fawn over the plastic, well advertised, all PR Disney if you want to but don't talk down to us for it.

Remember, you started this little disagreement, not me.popcorn::
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[Peter Pirate 2]

"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. "

This deserves a response of its own ... well,:lmao:no it doesn't. But boy am I glad I don't live in your self absorbed world of "rationality" and "reality" ... It must be very lonely in your head.:eek:
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[BayouMickey]

Thanks there chief. :thumbsup2 I'm happy I have your approval to rant'n'rave, though truth be known you threw the first condescending jabs at Mouseoholic didn't you? Come on, admit it. ;)

Further it was you, the now admitted fanboy, who threw out the ever so clever and never seen before chide of "why do we even go to..." if we hate it so much gem. That's a good one that only someone who has no understanding of Disney history would dare utter. Maybe some of us LOVE Disney for what we remember, for what it once stood for, for the sheer quality of product. Is it so wrong for us to stick up for that, to rail against schlock like this makeover crap? I agree you have your right to fawn over the plastic, well advertised, all PR Disney if you want to but don't talk down to us for it.

Remember, you started this little disagreement, not me.popcorn::
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Nice one Sparky! I assume you are reffering to the "nevermind Mouse" comment, that's the only thing I see that maybe comes close to "talking down". Which it wasn't, i was just making an observation on some of his recent posts that tend to be anti Disney. You know what's worse than a fanboy? a puritist. Someone who cannot accept change and must have something the way they want or else it's all about fail. The Disney that was is still there. It's just wearing a new coat. the core of what was never left, just a different coating. i used to like McDonalds, but I don't anymore because the menu changed. I don't go to Ronald's fansite and whine because they took away my Reeses McFlurry, why? Because it doesn't do any good.
Whining about "I want Disney back to when it was like this" on a fansite THEN assume people are ignorant and blind because they don't neccessarily agree with you won't do any good either, except make for some entertaining debate. You're preaching in the wrong church. Got complaints? Take it to the man or mouse.

[BayouMickey]

This deserves a response of its own ... well,:lmao:no it doesn't. But boy am I glad I don't live in your self absorbed world of "rationality" and "reality" ... It must be very lonely in your head.:eek:
pirate:

It's a quote from a movie. It's not mine, but I thought it fitting..

[Peter Pirate 2]

What movie? I hate to miss those references (I genuinely enjoy them) and I obviously did this time.
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[taylor3297]

Well I remember how my dad said he enjoyed playing cowboys and indians when he was growing up. They would even dress the part. It was all fun make believe. So do little boys not want to dress up anymore? I think they do. Where else but at Disney is it more acceptable for kids to dress up and pretend? So many kids have their lives scheduled for them that they don't get to do the whole make believe thing. So I am glad that they are opening the pirate place. My daughter did the BBB, she chose the castle package and to this day she talks about it. She said it was nice to have someone do her makeup and hair, dress up in a pretty costume and have a picture session. Was it cheap? No. In the end am I glad that I paid for it? Yes. On our next trip our son will be old enough and if he wants to dress up as a pirate at MK, then we will let him do it.

When I visit WDW, I go knowing that things are not cheap. But I am not going to moan and complain about it because to me that would ruin my vacation.

[BayouMickey]

It was Billy Madison towards the end during the quiz bowl segment.

[Peter Pirate 2]

It was Billy Madison towards the end during the quiz bowl segment.
Excellent!:thumbsup2

To the subject, we can go back and forth and no one is right or wrong because it's all perspective and timing. I'm passionate about my Disney memories which is why I go crazy sometimes but I do understand that today's families are making their own memories just as I made mine. I feel my time was 'better Disney' but yopu know what? There is a large group that thought my time was crap and theirs was better as well. Ah well...

All in fun on my part.:wizard:
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[the who #3]

thank you for your post!

children as young as 17 months do remember!

the first time we took my grandaughter we thought she would be too young and went anyway because we did not want to wait any longer because my grandson was soon going to be too old for his first visit.;)

to make a long story short, she is 8 yrs old now and still remembers her first breakfast with mickey (that may have been the clincher) and could tell her father, who was not with us, exactly how to get to the castle, and all the little kid rides behind it. she has been in love with wdw since that age. we were amazed that 6 months after that first trip when she saw a box that said walt disney on the outside (no pictures) she immediatly started yelling mickey mouse, mickey mouse.:yay:

so i try to take my grandchildren as often as possible. my grandson is 16 now and does not talk about disney to his high school friends too much because their family's do not seem to understand (and maybe have not been able to afford) the joy of disney. -----but he loves it as much as the rest of us and is always asking when we are going back. we are dvc owners now and the children feel at home at disney.:goodvibes it is absolutely the most perfect place for a family vacation and i don't mind paying for the memories that a grandmother wants and that my daughter and grandchildren will also cherish.pixiedust:

i will someday be too old to make that trip and hope that i will have given my family a big bunch of beautiful memories to carry with them after i am gone.:thumbsup2

[melly]

This will provide serious competition to the Simpsons ride, Manta, Rip Rockitt n ride and Harry Potter land :rotfl:

[mmiller711]

I am glad my grandson's finally get a "boy" thing to do! We have done the haircuts at the barber shop. He liked it. We took my niece to the BBB and my 4 year old grandson wanted to do something so much. We found he could get the cool dude, he did and loved it. The problem was he knew my niece got an outfit, her hair done and pictures. He didn't! This will be perfect!! 4 out of the 6 children going this year will be pirates for a while anyway! Enjoy your youth, all too soon you are grown!!!!!

[Wgilley]

wow.. Thats a bit pricey, but it will be interesting to see how everyone looks coming out of it

[DisneyBabies]

Our family is very excited about this! We don't usually spend money like that on a vacation . . . but when we are in Disney, just about anything goes. We have two years between each visit, so we have all that time to save up money so our kids can have basically anything they want. Is this Pirate makeover right for everyone? No. Is everyone going to think it is worth it money wise? No. But is it a good thing that Disney is gearing something new towards boys (and some girls)? Definately.

And I just have to ask why the real life Pirate problems were brought up. I'm not sure about others, but my children don't know anything about that, so how does the Disney Pirate makeover have anything to do with those other real life ones? I'm sure the children getting the makeover will be thinking more along the lines of Captain Jack.

[the who #3]

i can not understand why anyone would associate a disney fun event, in the magic kingdom no less, with something going on in the world that is unpleasant. would that person want the mk to shut down pirates of the carr. also?:confused:

i am so pleased that they have something that the boys will enjoy!:worship: i am a woman and i will enjoy it myself too. i can not wait! i am going to make resv. for the full treatment for my grandson and the smaller treatment for my daughter, granddaughter and myself.pirate: we all went to mnsshp as pirates one year and it was fun.

[CarnotaurDad]

I don't understand the vehemence against this either. If you don't like it, that's one thing and is ok. But to actively HATE it, makes no sense (at least in my mind) at all.

Who exactly does this hurt? There is a market for this and why is it so wrong?

For those who want to take their children there, please know that not everyone thinks you are evil or wrong to do so. Enjoy and have fun!

[Peter Pirate 2]

I don't understand the vehemence against this either. If you don't like it, that's one thing and is ok. But to actively HATE it, makes no sense (at least in my mind) at all.

Who exactly does this hurt? There is a market for this and why is it so wrong?

For those who want to take their children there, please know that not everyone thinks you are evil or wrong to do so. Enjoy and have fun!

Really? You can't understand that some of us consider this a form of obvious and tasteless brand exploitation? I mean, you can't even see this possibility? ... I fully understand how people like/love this stuff. I disagree with the premise and am happy that I personally never was drawn to it but I do, at least, understand the other side of the argument and see how people get pleasure from it. But it doesn't change the fact that I (personally) see it as schlock.
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[CarnotaurDad]

Really? You can't understand that some of us consider this a form of obvious and tasteless brand exploitation? I mean, you can't even see this possibility? ... I fully understand how people like/love this stuff. I disagree with the premise and am happy that I personally never was drawn to it but I do, at least, understand the other side of the argument and see how people get pleasure from it. But it doesn't change the fact that I (personally) see it as schlock.
pirate:

Yep, really. I don't get it. If you don't like it, fine. No worries. But the hatred seems a bit over the top to me. JMHO.

[Mouseaholic!!!]

This will provide serious competition to the Simpsons ride, Manta, Rip Rockitt n ride and Harry Potter land :rotfl:


Ok, I get this now....hahaha.

I just watched the you tube video for Manta - DH and a couple of our DVC friends are planning half of our next vacation at US and SW. I will be steadfast in the gift shop or standing in as trip photographer but I can't wait to watch them when they come off the rides.

[the who #3]

if you think this is obvious brand exploitation, what do you think mickey mouse is or disney? come on. are you on this dish because you enjoy disney or just for the fun of argument?:confused3

also, why do you call yourself peter pirate 2?:confused:

the hatred thing may not be you but another disser. but people seem to use words that carry very strong emotion where they do not belong. i try not to ever use the word "hate" unless it refers to the terrorist that destroyed new york on 9-11.:sad1:

disney is for fun!!!!!!:goodvibes

have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup2

[Peter Pirate 2]

if you think this is obvious brand exploitation, what do you think mickey mouse is or disney? come on. are you on this dish because you enjoy disney or just for the fun of argument?:confused3

also, why do you call yourself peter pirate 2?:confused:

the hatred thing may not be you but another disser. but people seem to use words that carry very strong emotion where they do not belong. i try not to ever use the word "hate" unless it refers to the terrorist that destroyed new york on 9-11.:sad1:

disney is for fun!!!!!!:goodvibes

have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup2

It's all fun!:goodvibes Whether I like the Pirates or Princess treatments is irrelevent. IMO.:wizard:

I admit I use a lot of hyperbole which oft times seems more harsh than perhaps the ironic or sarcastic tone in which I meant it but it's never out of hate...Geez, it's just Disney.

As for the exploitation, yes MM is the main mouse when it comes to exploitation BUT there was also a lot of creativity and imagination involved in getting MM to that point. I just don't view these makeovers in that same light. Seems like just a money grab to me and if you're OK with that, that's fine, but I'm not and that should be fine too. I like my Disney entertainment to be a bit better than average schlock which I personally consider this (and not Mickey Mouse) to be, but again to each their own.

I'm Peter Pirate 2 because back in the annals of the DIS the original Peter pirate got lost in a password snafu and was never able to be retrieved ... I was also Captain Crook for a time (which makes sense now, right?).
pirate:

[Withacy]

Wow, some seriously angry people around here. :mad:

About a year ago I seriously objectified my Goddaughter for her 9th birthday, and poor misguided dupe that she is, the BBB experience was one of her happiest memories. She can't stop talking about it (don't worry, I'm sure she'll become appropriately cynical and dismissive when she hits her teenage years, and a good therapist will help her deal with the memory of her exploitation at the hands of the soulless Disney Corporation). :sad1:

I'm taking her 7 year old brother this December, and the poor naive waif was jealous of the experience his sister got (if not the dress & make-up). When I read about this experience, I mentioned it to his mother and asked if he'd like it (Mom's just as shallow and susceptible to crass commercialism as I am). She asked him and he lost his mind, he was so excited. So yet another child objectified and exploited. I'm so proud. :cool2:

[skater]

Wow, some seriously angry people around here. :mad:

About a year ago I seriously objectified my Goddaughter for her 9th birthday, and poor misguided dupe that she is, the BBB experience was one of her happiest memories. She can't stop talking about it (don't worry, I'm sure she'll become appropriately cynical and dismissive when she hits her teenage years, and a good therapist will help her deal with the memory of her exploitation at the hands of the soulless Disney Corporation). :sad1:

I'm taking her 7 year old brother this December, and the poor naive waif was jealous of the experience his sister got (if not the dress & make-up). When I read about this experience, I mentioned it to his mother and asked if he'd like it (Mom's just as shallow and susceptible to crass commercialism as I am). She asked him and he lost his mind, he was so excited. So yet another child objectified and exploited. I'm so proud. :cool2:



My sister's college level feminist class mutilated barbies as a sort of protest (more complicated than that I know, but for simplicity's sake...) of the objectifcation of women and unrealistic expectations of beauty and body image. There are a lot of angry people out there :rolleyes:. I'm sure your godchildren will be okay once they get into college and mutilate dolls ;).

[TheRustyScupper]

Sure they will and what's even more pathetic is people are going to happily pay it. :rolleyes1

1) Yep.
2) First BBB, now this.
3) And, we thought PT Barnum was dead and buried.

[Withacy]

1) Yep.
2) First BBB, now this.
3) And, we thought PT Barnum was dead and buried.

And what's even worse is those poor, misguided children think they're enjoying it!

I took my goddaughter to WDW, and I'll be taking my godson in December. Their mom, my oldest friend (nearly 30 years) works long hours in a position she had to take below her experience & education level to make ends meet, and their Dad works & goes to school trying to get himself into a better employment situation. These are children who'd never been to an amusement park, never been on an airplane, never even stayed in a hotel. Yes, going to Disney World is a special treat for them - but the look on my goddaughter's face when she was getting the BBB treatment - when she was for once the center of the universe - was beyond priceless.

I don't care if some judgemental busybody thinks I'm one of those suckers that's supposedly born every minute. Yes, she would've had fun at Disney without that treat - and she would've had fun with a day trip to Kings Island instead of 8 days at Disney World. I made a little girl who rarely gets to feel special feel like a princess - I have the incredible memories (and pictures) to prove it. And all the snide putdowns in the world won't change that. So what if Disney made money off the deal? It was WORTH IT! princess:

And come December I'm taking her little brother and letting him get turned into a pirate so that he can feel just as special. The kind of special a kid feels when they get something they don't remotely need, but something they want and someone feels they're important enough to get. For a week that little boy is going to be the center of the universe - perhaps the only week he'll get to be that his whole life. And I don't care if Disney makes a sinful amount of money in the process. pirate:

One more thing - I get that the folks criticizing this are stating their opinion, but don't go saying that someone would have to be an idiot to do this (just because you don't use the words doesn't mean the implication isn't as clear as day) and then be shocked - SHOCKED - that people take offense. I don't really care what you do or don't do at Disney - heck, I see miserable people at Disney, carping and whining every time I go, and that's their right too. But do us the courtesy of not caring what we do with our time and money as well.

[Peter Pirate 2]

And what's even worse is those poor, misguided children think they're enjoying it!

I took my goddaughter to WDW, and I'll be taking my godson in December. Their mom, my oldest friend (nearly 30 years) works long hours in a position she had to take below her experience & education level to make ends meet, and their Dad works & goes to school trying to get himself into a better employment situation. These are children who'd never been to an amusement park, never been on an airplane, never even stayed in a hotel. Yes, going to Disney World is a special treat for them - but the look on my goddaughter's face when she was getting the BBB treatment - when she was for once the center of the universe - was beyond priceless.

I don't care if some judgemental busybody thinks I'm one of those suckers that's supposedly born every minute. Yes, she would've had fun at Disney without that treat - and she would've had fun with a day trip to Kings Island instead of 8 days at Disney World. I made a little girl who rarely gets to feel special feel like a princess - I have the incredible memories (and pictures) to prove it. And all the snide putdowns in the world won't change that. So what if Disney made money off the deal? It was WORTH IT! princess:

And come December I'm taking her little brother and letting him get turned into a pirate so that he can feel just as special. The kind of special a kid feels when they get something they don't remotely need, but something they want and someone feels they're important enough to get. For a week that little boy is going to be the center of the universe - perhaps the only week he'll get to be that his whole life. And I don't care if Disney makes a sinful amount of money in the process. pirate:

One more thing - I get that the folks criticizing this are stating their opinion, but don't go saying that someone would have to be an idiot to do this (just because you don't use the words doesn't mean the implication isn't as clear as day) and then be shocked - SHOCKED - that people take offense. I don't really care what you do or don't do at Disney - heck, I see miserable people at Disney, carping and whining every time I go, and that's their right too. But do us the courtesy of not caring what we do with our time and money as well.
As I sit here in my room at the Hilton Hotel on Powder Springs St. it strikes me that it is you that is angry. No one here doubts that your children, grandchildren, whatever will have a wonderful, glorious, grand ole time at these events. No one can dispute this at all and if this is the best venue you find for such happiness then by all means DO IT!

I personally just find it sad that this simplistic form of event is being sold by Disney at such high prices as if they were really doing something special, when it fact it is nothing more than ordinary carnival behavior as alluded to by Mr. Scupper. There was no real imagination or creativity in developing this year long halloween event.
pirate:

[Withacy]

I personally just find it sad that this simplistic form of event is being sold by Disney at such high prices as if they were really doing something special, when it fact it is nothing more than ordinary carnival behavior as alluded to by Mr. Scupper. There was no real imagination or creativity in developing this year long halloween event.
pirate:

And you know this because you've been there? It's clear to me, from what you've written, that you've either never actually been in the BBB, or you're deliberately misrepressenting it to make some sketchy point. Probably the former, since there's nothing like ignorance to lend certainty to some people's words. It's also clear from the above statement - to any of us who've actually been to the BBB - that you don't know what you're talking about.

Am I angry? Being insulted tends to do that. Anyone reading your posts who disagrees with you couldn't help but be insulted. I'm not sure there's any other way to take "it's sad you're so stupid to waste your money on this".

[Bubba the Disney fan]

Big Disney and Leafs fans here !!!!!! in Buffalo. Go Leafs Go-

[Peter Pirate 2]

And you know this because you've been there? It's clear to me, from what you've written, that you've either never actually been in the BBB, or you're deliberately misrepressenting it to make some sketchy point. Probably the former, since there's nothing like ignorance to lend certainty to some people's words. It's also clear from the above statement - to any of us who've actually been to the BBB - that you don't know what you're talking about.

Am I angry? Being insulted tends to do that. Anyone reading your posts who disagrees with you couldn't help but be insulted. I'm not sure there's any other way to take "it's sad you're so stupid to waste your money on this".

Who insulted who?:confused3I freely and fully accept your right to participate and enjoy this event. In fact as long as they're offering it it is obvious that people ARE enjoying it but somehow you feel insulted because I personally feel it isn't entertainment up to Disney standards and I am sad that this is the best Disney can do these days and I am sad that this is the extent that Disney has to strive for to generate "fans". Sorry you disagree and it's not personal I just think it's schlock and you don't.

pirate:

[mitros]

Who insulted who?:confused3I freely and fully accept your right to participate and enjoy this event. In fact as long as they're offering it it is obvious that people ARE enjoying it but somehow you feel insulted because I personally feel it isn't entertainment up to Disney standards and I am sad that this is the best Disney can do these days and I am sad that this is the extent that Disney has to strive for to generate "fans". Sorry you disagree and it's not personal I just think it's schlock and you don't.

pirate:

Excellent statement Peter.:thumbsup2

[Withacy]

Who insulted who?:confused3I freely and fully accept your right to participate and enjoy this event. In fact as long as they're offering it it is obvious that people ARE enjoying it but somehow you feel insulted because I personally feel it isn't entertainment up to Disney standards and I am sad that this is the best Disney can do these days and I am sad that this is the extent that Disney has to strive for to generate "fans". Sorry you disagree and it's not personal I just think it's schlock and you don't.

pirate:

:confused3 "What, who me? What did I say?" :confused3

I don't care if you think it's "pathetic" or "schlock". That's your right. If I argued with everyone who had a different opinion than I do, I'd have something like 1,500 posts instead of less than 100. What I have a problem with is when you insult people, and then act like they're upset because you have a different opinion. It's a very annoying tactic. Let's recap some highlights of your innocent disagreement:

"I can't believe so many people buy into the notion that you can buy your kids precious memories."

"I think as good and loving parents there are much, much better options for special family moments, that are much more genuine than a contrived Disney moment."

"I'm just saying a Princess or Pirate makeover seems contrived and...Well, lazy to me."

"You fanboy/apologists are just sooo predictable but you're allowed your opinion, even if it's just superficial."

"some of us consider this a form of obvious and tasteless brand exploitation"

So, according to you, people who take their children to places like the BBB are lazy, superficial, fanboy/apologists, incapable of being good and loving parents, who try to buy their children's memories while tastelessly exploiting them. Did I leave anything out?

But why would anyone be offended by that - it's just a harmless opinion.

[Peter Pirate 2]

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But why would anyone be offended by that - it's just a harmless opinion.

Finally you get it.:rolleyes:
pirate:

[the who #3]

more power to you for making your godchildren feel so special.:thumbsup2

i do the same thing for my grandchildren. :goodvibes they are worth doing that for and there is no one else to do that.

[KELLY]

My daughter did the BBB in April. But I can totally see her doing this also.

[Mama_Dis]

I have two boys who would love this. Depending on how much they want to go, we may make ressies for our next trip to go there.

As far as my being a lazy parent who is willing to throw away my money and buy my kids memories via contrived, brand exploitation moments. . . :confused3

Isn't that what Disney is now? Isn't that what "mainstream entertainment" is now? Sure it's sad, but for me and my kids- neither of us have ever known any other kind of Disney or Circus or any other mass market entertainment racket in town- so to us, it *is* Disney magic. To say "I don't like it because it's cheap and not how it used to be" smacks of old crabbiness to me. That statement could be applied to anything and everything these days and I'm not going to let that kind of thinking take away from us experiencing something we'd enjoy together as a family.

So for now, I'm just going to take these moments as well as the ones I can create by myself and remind myself that one day when I have grandkids, I'll be wondering where the days went when you could get your face painted by a person for $40 bucks instead of sprayed by a machine for $140 :scared: