2 drivers killed in head-on collision near Disney

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/traffic/orl-bk-epcot-drive-crash-041909,0,6223743.story

[Dznefreek]

I am constantly amazed at people who show an interest in the macabre just beacuse it occurred near Disney. . . . . . . . this is not really news or rumor. . . . .

[artesian]

I am constantly amazed at people who show an interest in the macabre just beacuse it occurred near Disney. . . . . . . . this is not really news or rumor. . . . .

Exactly what I said...

[crazyhusband]

i would like to know why the driver of the first car was doing driving in the wrong direction. sounds to me like he either was drunk or fell asleep or had a medical problem. i feel for the family of the driver of the other car. i work as a truck driving instructor and i see and hear of these type of accidents quite a lot. anyway be safe out there.:hmghost:

[mitros]

I am constantly amazed at people who show an interest in the macabre just beacuse it occurred near Disney. . . . . . . . this is not really news or rumor. . . . .

Why do you say it is not news? Certainly it is not a rumor, but it is surely news.
Webster defines "news" as, among other things, A} New information about specific and timely events. B} New information of any kind.
Don't begrudge the poster for posting what is, in fact, news................

[Peter Pirate 2]

It's not news?:confused3
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[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Why do you say it is not news? Certainly it is not a rumor, but it is surely news.
Webster defines "news" as, among other things, A} New information about specific and timely events. B} New information of any kind.
Don't begrudge the poster for posting what is, in fact, news................:thumbsup2

[KYMickey]

Why do you say it is not news? Certainly it is not a rumor, but it is surely news.
Webster defines "news" as, among other things, A} New information about specific and timely events. B} New information of any kind.
Don't begrudge the poster for posting what is, in fact, news................OK, let's put it a different way, it's not news about Disney! It's obviously news to some one and it was published in a newspaper but why did anyone think it was appropriate to post it here? It happened on a street named of Epcot Drive (which I believe he is actually a public highway) but Disney employees or vehicles weren't involved and there's not even any indication that the people involved were on their way to or from Disney!

[zulemara]

It was on DIsney property and it was one of my fellow watercraft CMS

So take your "not news" and shove it

[Dznefreek]

OK, let's put it a different way, it's not news about Disney! It's obviously news to some one and it was published in a newspaper but why did anyone think it was appropriate to post it here? It happened on a street named of Epcot Drive (which I believe he is actually a public highway) but Disney employees or vehicles weren't involved and there's not even any indication that the people involved were on their way to or from Disney!

My point exactly. Accidents happen everyday, everywhere. . . . .

So take your "not news" and shove it
Ah, there's that Disney Magic . . . . . .

[zulemara]

OK, let's put it a different way, it's not news about Disney! It's obviously news to some one and it was published in a newspaper but why did anyone think it was appropriate to post it here? It happened on a street named of Epcot Drive (which I believe he is actually a public highway) but Disney employees or vehicles weren't involved and there's not even any indication that the people involved were on their way to or from Disney!

the article did not say Disney CMs were not involved so I will give you that, but just because it doesn't say it doesn't mean it's true.

It was a watercraft CM and he was on his way home from work. Epcot drive is on Disney property and does not turn into a public highway until you reach the Disney gates.

I was in the van at dry dock when he called another CM and the line went dead. Little did we know why it went dead.

I'm sorry, but my "magic" is checked at the door when dealing with something like this. Saying it's not news when A) you don't have all the facts and B) It clearly IS news related to Disney because it happened on property and was fatal.

[unfreshdiva1]

Regardless this was a tragedy and everyone should be respectful to each other!:hug:

[KYMickey]

Considering a Disney CM was probably the cause of the accident in one way or another I'm surprised the headlines and work of much more dramatic! It always seems like the local media likes to highlight the fact every time Disney is in any way involved in any local incidents.

[Traveliz]

Unless the 50 year old driver was also a CM I don't see how a Disney CM can be blamed for the accident, the 19 year old CM was the one driving on the correct side of the road.

It's very sad.

Liz

[disney1990]

:sad2::sad2:

Regardless, it's sad.

[swandiverpatt]

People driving the wrong way on roads at Disney happens more than you think.

I was driving to work one morning, coming around the road by the Poly that merges onto World Drive. Got around the corner there by the Hess Station and there was a car coming the wrong way. Most of us going the proper way were honking and flashing lights. Thankfully, it was after the curve in the road.

Looking in the rear-view mirror, he kept going the wrong direction.

I'm sorry for our co-worker's death.

[Peter Pirate 2]

the article did not say Disney CMs were not involved so I will give you that, but just because it doesn't say it doesn't mean it's true.

It was a watercraft CM and he was on his way home from work. Epcot drive is on Disney property and does not turn into a public highway until you reach the Disney gates.

I was in the van at dry dock when he called another CM and the line went dead. Little did we know why it went dead.

I'm sorry, but my "magic" is checked at the door when dealing with something like this. Saying it's not news when A) you don't have all the facts and B) It clearly IS news related to Disney because it happened on property and was fatal.
I'm really sorry for you and your fellow CM's. It's a tragedy and a horrible, horrible event.
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[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

To the person who says that this isn't Disney news, I'm not quite sure what you mean. A fatal car crash is obviously news and things that happen on Disney property are certainly Disney-related. Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean that others don't want to hear about it.

Thanks to the OP for sharing this link. What a sad story!

[zulemara]

Considering a Disney CM was probably the cause of the accident in one way or another I'm surprised the headlines and work of much more dramatic! It always seems like the local media likes to highlight the fact every time Disney is in any way involved in any local incidents.

Did you even read the damn article or any of the responses in this thread?

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Thanks to the OP for sharing this link. What a sad story!You're welcome and I agree that this is a sad story.

[jade1]

People driving the wrong way on roads at Disney happens more than you think.
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I wouldn't doubt it-not exactly square city blocks down there. Posting this may get some folks to concentrate more when they do drive-maybe even study a map ahead of time.

Since ME we never have a car anymore. This is one more reason not to IMO.

[OrlandoMike]

I was in the van at dry dock when he called another CM and the line went dead. Little did we know why it went dead.


I am in no way saying anything about the poor CM who lost his life...but I do have to comment.

He was on his cell phone, as was the other CM who died tragically earlier this month in her car, running late to work.

Please folks, nothing is that important! Leave your cell phone off when you are in the car! Statistics prove you are much less aware as a driver when you are on your cell phone....

Both stories are very sad.....

[KINGBOBOFTHENORTH]

I wouldn't doubt it-not exactly square city blocks down there. Posting this may get some folks to concentrate more when they do drive-maybe even study a map ahead of time.

As I'm sure everyone here knows, EPCOT Center Drive is an expressway. One would have to be pretty careless (or wasted) to not realize they were entering the wrong direction of an expressway. I'm sure there will be more details in the coming days. Zulemara, so sorry for the loss of your colleague.

BobK/Orlando

[jade1]

As I'm sure everyone here knows, EPCOT Center Drive is an expressway. One would have to be pretty careless (or wasted) to not realize they were entering the wrong direction of an expressway. I'm sure there will be more details in the coming days. Zulemara, so sorry for the loss of your colleague.

BobK/Orlando

Luckily nobody ever drives careless or wasted. :rolleyes: I'll stay with no car.

[zulemara]

I am in no way saying anything about the poor CM who lost his life...but I do have to comment.

He was on his cell phone, as was the other CM who died tragically earlier this month in her car, running late to work.

Please folks, nothing is that important! Leave your cell phone off when you are in the car! Statistics prove you are much less aware as a driver when you are on your cell phone....

Both stories are very sad.....

While I respect the point you made, I must ammend my information. The information I posted before was inaccurate. The truth is that my fellow college program co worker was called while we were in the van at dry dock by the authorities and they asked her a couple questions...his name, if she knew him, etc. She was not allowed to tell us what had happened. Now it makes sense why she was being weird on the way home, constantly looking over her shoulder and just looking bewildered. I saw her tonight and she said she was really upset but couldn't tell us.

Typical of cast members, the information from above had gotten twisted.

[mitros]

I am in no way saying anything about the poor CM who lost his life...but I do have to comment.

He was on his cell phone, as was the other CM who died tragically earlier this month in her car, running late to work.

Please folks, nothing is that important! Leave your cell phone off when you are in the car! Statistics prove you are much less aware as a driver when you are on your cell phone....

Both stories are very sad.....

Very well said, Mike. Talking on a cell phone while TRYING to drive has become one of the leading causes of traffic fatalities and crashes.

[zulemara]

Very well said, Mike. Talking on a cell phone while TRYING to drive has become one of the leading causes of traffic fatalities and crashes.

again, I agree, but this was NOT the case with Aaron, as my post above indicates

[P.I. Squirrel]

This highlights one dilemma Disney faces. It's on their property, so technically, they are responsible for traffic enforcement. They give that to Orange County Sheriff. But there's the problem. If you allow the laws to be enforced, i.e. speed traps or higher police visibility, you risk chasing off your guests. And no, I don't have a solution. I'm just stating what I have seen.

When I worked in Orlando, I used to drive Epcot Center Drive daily. Though I have never seen anyone driving the wrong direction, that road is like a raceway. I have been passed by people doing at least 80mph, cutting people off to save a few minutes by driving around road construction/traffic off site. They always had local tags, too. They seemed to know, or at least think they knew, the odds of being pulled over on Disney property.

[KINGBOBOFTHENORTH]

This highlights one dilemma Disney faces. If you allow the laws to be enforced, i.e. speed traps or higher police visibility, you risk chasing off your guests.

While on the surface that makes sense, it isn't true. I have NEVER seen OCSO hesitate to pull over speeders. I've seen them parked in the median at night with lights off and radar on, I've seen them parked on side roads, I've seen many speeders pulled over! There is no evidence to support that Disney tells them to go light on tourists. There are laws to enforce and they enforce them.

BobK/Orlando