View Full Version : First OKW stay, good and bad
Mississippian
04-15-2009, 10:11 PM
We recently returned from a three-night stay in a grand villa at OKW, which was followed by four nights at VBR. I thought I would share my views of OKW, both good and bad.
I had some reservations up front because of the location, and in fact the poor location did cause some problems. But more on that later. Also, please note that our OKW grand villa only cost 51 points per night. At BWV a grand villa would have been 108 points per night, and a 2 BR at BWV would have cost 40 points per night. So any complaint I have about OKW should be taken with that grain of salt.
The grand villa was in outstanding condition, except for the beds in one of the bedrooms. There was a small stain on the sofa, but other than that the place was spotless and in good condition.
The swimming pool is nice, and the slide has a corkscrew that will make you dizzy and almost certainly push you under the water. My children said they preferred the Clown slide better, but the OKW slide was good.
OKW is really spread out, and no information was given to us on how to use the buses to get around. We were in the back (building 51), which was too far for the children (10 and 9) to walk to the Hospitality House. When they wanted to go to the arcade I put them on the bus and asked the driver to make sure they got out at the main building. They couldn't figure out how to get a bus home, and got lost trying to walk, so they called my and I drove up and brought them home. At BWV there is no problem with the kids going to the Arcade on their own; at OKW, it's a problem. (They did not like the OKW arcade).
I really can't complain about the bus service; it was quite good. BUT, the bus took 20 minutes after picking us up just to drive around the resort and pick other people up. Add in the wait time and the drive to the park, and you're looking at 1.5 hours lost each time you go to EPCOT (roughly 45 minutes each way). This is just something to consider.
My daughter and I ate lunch at Olivia's. My ceasar salad was great, and my daughter liked her grilled chicken kid's meal. I had the crab cakes appetizer as an entree and was not at all impressed. My impression of Olivia's is that it's a good solid place to get a good meal, but it's better because it's there. Most people wouldn't travel to eat there.
For me the bottom line is that it is a pretty resort, but the spread-out nature of things and the bad location is a problem for me. Of course, I do like the low point prices.
I still have a strong preference for BWV, but I'm glad I visited OKW. I would not stay again for three nights, and really don't think I would want to stay for fewer than five nights. The transportaion problems just force one to go at a slower pace and spend more time around the resort. That's fine, but you need to take it into consideration before booking.
By the way, about the beds I mentioned. The "third" bedroom in the grand villa had two or the worst double beds I've ever seen. They were troughed out so bad that the sides were about two or three inches higher than the middle. Because of the way our trip worked out, my wife couldn't make the WDW part of the trip, and I let our friends stay in the master bedroom. I would have been embarrassed to offer them these lousy beds. I can't understand why they don't put a queen and a set of bunk beds in this third bedroom.
Here's a pic of one of the beds. Both of them in this bedroom looked like this. The "curve" is NOT caused by any wide angle of the lens. That's the way the bed looked.
http://www.landbuffet.com/disney/curvybed.jpg
Sammie
04-15-2009, 10:48 PM
Did you call and complain about the state of the mattresses? :confused3
As to the analysis of the buses to Epcot, that is probably the worst case scenario of the longest possible time. It is not always going to be that way.
Many times just as we have walked up to the bus stop, the bus arrives and we have no wait. Also there have been times we do not stop at each bus stop along the way.
It is a given that BWV are convenient to Epcot and the Studios but not so to MK and AK. Also there are times that one can spend a great deal of time walking to Epcot from the BW and the boats are definitely slow. Some of my longest bus rides were from BW to MK.
It is good that there are many DVC resorts to choose from so that everyone can pick what fits for them.
Location is relevant to what one likes, and no location is bad for everyone. BW obviously fits your needs and that is good, OKW fits the needs of many and that is good too.
Tozzie
04-15-2009, 10:50 PM
I always travel just to go to Olivia's it is one of my favorites.
BuzznBelle'smom
04-16-2009, 05:38 AM
This is good to know. We're staying there for a week in July, and were debating keeping our rental cars for the week. I guess we will, due to the bus issue. I'd been leaning that way anyway, for convenience and going off-site.
Mississippian
04-16-2009, 07:17 AM
Did you call and complain about the state of the mattresses? :confused3
As to the analysis of the buses to Epcot, that is probably the worst case scenario of the longest possible time. It is not always going to be that way.
Many times just as we have walked up to the bus stop, the bus arrives and we have no wait. Also there have been times we do not stop at each bus stop along the way.
It is a given that BWV are convenient to Epcot and the Studios but not so to MK and AK. Also there are times that one can spend a great deal of time walking to Epcot from the BW and the boats are definitely slow. Some of my longest bus rides were from BW to MK.
It is good that there are many DVC resorts to choose from so that everyone can pick what fits for them.
Location is relevant to what one likes, and no location is bad for everyone. BW obviously fits your needs and that is good, OKW fits the needs of many and that is good too.
I didn't report the mattresses. Probably should have, but that seems to me to be something that should be taken care of according to a calendar or inspection by management, not a phone call.
I've usually gotten an express bus from BWV to the MK, and on those occassions when I'm running late I simply take a cab to the Poly. I find the star-shaped pick-up route from BWV to be less time consuming than the drive down every cul-de-sac at OKW. As for the walk from the Boardwalk to EPCOT, I've found it takes about the same time to walk it every time, and that the distance to the World Showcase is shorter from the lobby of BWV than it is from the bus stop in front of the park. So every minute spent on transportation to EPCOT is a lost minute, and the same is true to a lesser extent to DHS.
As I said in my original post, OKW offers a good value for the points spent, but for me it's a trade-off I'm not sure I'm willing to make. Certainly I wouldn't want to do so on a three- or four-night stay. For a longer stay I might, but I would want to be near the Hospitality House.
BEASLYBOO
04-16-2009, 07:58 AM
OKW is my favorite resort for many of the reasons you mention above. I really enjoy Olivia's and the GV's are top notch for the points. The layout and it's lush landscape of the resort is what first attracted me to DVC. I truly love the get away feeling once you get off the bus after a day at the parks.
With that said, BWV is also a favorite if you want to be close to Epcot and also in the thick of things. Every once in a while my son and his friends need the boardwalk & the clown slide, that's why this June that's where we will be.
To answer your statement that maintenance should just know when things should be fixed is somewhat deceiving, they should know but it will get done quicker if people actually complain and keep complaining.
DVC serves my purpose in full, sometimes I need the savanna, sometimes the boardwalk and most of the time the lush tropical feel of Key West. The Best of all worlds at the World!
magicaldisney
04-16-2009, 08:05 AM
This is good to know. We're staying there for a week in July, and were debating keeping our rental cars for the week. I guess we will, due to the bus issue. I'd been leaning that way anyway, for convenience and going off-site.
Please remember, that is just one person's opinion on the bus service at OKW, there are many others who feel differently. I for one thought the bus service at OKW was excellent. Have you ever taken a bus to MK from BWV, now there's a long bus ride!!,
colonialtinker
04-16-2009, 08:15 AM
Please remember, that is just one person's opinion on the bus service at OKW, there are many others who feel differently. I for one thought the bus service at OKW was excellent. Have you ever taken a bus to MK from BWV, now there's a long bus ride!!,
I agree:thumbsup2 We have only had a few issues with the bus service at OKW and that was from us not knowing there was a resort bus.
Deb & Bill
04-16-2009, 12:20 PM
Please remember, that is just one person's opinion on the bus service at OKW, there are many others who feel differently. I for one thought the bus service at OKW was excellent. Have you ever taken a bus to MK from BWV, now there's a long bus ride!!,
If the bus even stopped for you at the BWV. The one time we stayed at the BWV, the bus often came from the BC/YC and other resorts nearly packed.
Never had any problem with the buses at OKW. And 45 minutes from South Point to Epcot? That has to be the worst case scenerio.
BuzznBelle'smom
04-16-2009, 01:44 PM
Please remember, that is just one person's opinion on the bus service at OKW, there are many others who feel differently. I for one thought the bus service at OKW was excellent. Have you ever taken a bus to MK from BWV, now there's a long bus ride!!,
I know that, and I take that into account. You can have people in the same resort, same week, and one will rave about the bus service while the other one complains.
From our perspective, we have 4 kids (ages 3-14), and splitting up throughout the day is our norm. We plan to have 2 compact rental cars (cheaper than one minivan--go figure!), free parking, AAA passes. Right now, I'm pretty peeved at WDW restaurant quality/prices--not trying to start a debate, they've just reached my personal tipping point, KWIM? So, buying groceries and eating off-site are figuring into my planning.
BuzznBelle'smom
04-16-2009, 01:46 PM
P.S. We never stayed at BWV. We're also staying off-site for our first week, which is new for us. And we've never had a rental car on-site, either. So, it'll be interesting to gain some differnt perspectives. We have also never been in July before--stupid kids and their stupid honors programs and high school sports!
BEASLYBOO
04-16-2009, 02:41 PM
We have also never been in July before--stupid kids and their stupid honors programs and high school sports! :lmao:
I long to go to Disney in April or May (when it's not so stinking hot)! Maybe when DS is in college!
BuzznBelle'smom
04-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah, on the good side, though, is she does band, too. And they travel to WDW. So, I'll get to go down for that, and probably bring my younger two kids (currently 6 and 3).
But I still haven't forgiven her for wrecking my mid-January "walk on all the rides" trips!
dwelty
04-16-2009, 03:20 PM
I agree with some of your points about OKW but there is one I don't quite understand. What is wrong with the location? It is literally right across the highway from EPCOT. You can even see the fireworks from many parts of the resort. I understand that BWV is right next to EPCOT, but if that is your benchmark, most other DVC resorts cannot compete on location with BWV and BCV.
RCharnay
04-16-2009, 04:54 PM
I respect your opinion but I have found OKW a totally different experience. In our stays there, the location is beautiful --dreamy almost--far enough away to feel the escape but close enough to be in the heart of WDW. We watch the birds from the balcony and the landscaping is wonderful. We walk out to the bus stop and within minutes, one arrives. The longest it has ever taken to get to any park from the South Point bus stop was 35 minutes-and that has only happened once. Every other time the bus has come faster than 20 minutes and then the trip through the resort and out to the parks is a total of 20 minutes or less. I suppose if someone had a wheelchair or ECV, that could slow down the process, but it did not take 20 minutes to go to 3 internal bus stops.
We didn't have any issues with the beds, luckily, and we used the pool in the South Point area so getting back and forth to the HH was not an issue. We liked Olivia's for lunch and bought countless items at the store-just hopped on the bus and took them back to our villa. We aren't arcade folks so I can't speak to that at all.
I think I was disturbed by your saying OKW is in a poor location. Perhaps a better description would be "more remote" or "not within walking distance to a park." Then people could have a better understanding of how OKW fits into different vacation styles. Some people really like being away from it all-especially after a day at the parks. But for those who want to walk from their room into the action-you are right!-OKW is not for them. That's a bus ride away. But usually just a few minutes.:thumbsup2
LIFERBABE
04-16-2009, 07:02 PM
I respect your opinion but I have found OKW a totally different experience. In our stays there, the location is beautiful --dreamy almost--far enough away to feel the escape but close enough to be in the heart of WDW. We watch the birds from the balcony and the landscaping is wonderful. We walk out to the bus stop and within minutes, one arrives. The longest it has ever taken to get to any park from the South Point bus stop was 35 minutes-and that has only happened once. Every other time the bus has come faster than 20 minutes and then the trip through the resort and out to the parks is a total of 20 minutes or less. I suppose if someone had a wheelchair or ECV, that could slow down the process, but it did not take 20 minutes to go to 3 internal bus stops.
We didn't have any issues with the beds, luckily, and we used the pool in the South Point area so getting back and forth to the HH was not an issue. We liked Olivia's for lunch and bought countless items at the store-just hopped on the bus and took them back to our villa. We aren't arcade folks so I can't speak to that at all.
I think I was disturbed by your saying OKW is in a poor location. Perhaps a better description would be "more remote" or "not within walking distance to a park." Then people could have a better understanding of how OKW fits into different vacation styles. Some people really like being away from it all-especially after a day at the parks. But for those who want to walk from their room into the action-you are right!-OKW is not for them. That's a bus ride away. But usually just a few minutes.:thumbsup2
Great Post!:wizard:
Some people would have you believe that OKW and SSR are so far removed from everything with long bus rides to everything. I think using the term "poor location" is borderline disrespectful to all those with a different point of view. Especially when you are speaking of the original DVC resort. It's not my favorite either, but it is a gorgeous resort and I would not have purchased any DVC if it were not for how very well done OKW is.
Mississippian
04-16-2009, 08:38 PM
I think I was disturbed by your saying OKW is in a poor location. Perhaps a better description would be "more remote" or "not within walking distance to a park." Then people could have a better understanding of how OKW fits into different vacation styles. Some people really like being away from it all-especially after a day at the parks. But for those who want to walk from their room into the action-you are right!-OKW is not for them. That's a bus ride away. But usually just a few minutes.:thumbsup2
You are right, the location isn't all that bad, it was the long bus ride through the resort that I wasn't fond of. And it's not like it ruined my life; but the time does add up, and I pointed that out.
The location of OKW is no worse nor better than the Port Orleans resort. So you are right, the location isn't what I dislike so much as not being in the middle of two parks.
As I said in my original post, the grand villa was unbelievable. The resort was attractive. But the transportation just caused some problems with me in comparison to my stays at BWV. As I also said in my original post, I don't think OKW is well suited to a three-day stay. I would consider staying again for five or more days, but no fewer.
Caskbill
04-16-2009, 10:02 PM
It's all perspective. If you had a villa near Miller's then you'd say the bus ride was short. It's probably more the location of your villa within the resort rather than the location of the resort itself.
Walking from BWV or BCV to Epcot or DHS is pretty good, but try going to MK. Just walking to the bus stop from some of the rooms is quite a trek. I find the bus service from OKW to MK to be the best of all the resorts, with SSR a close second.
Everyone has personal feelings. For me, going back to OKW after a day in the park is more like "Going Home". While all the other resorts are very nice, it's more like "Going back to the room". No disrespect intended but the 1-B/R villas at the other resorts just feel more like a small apartment. Not to say I don't like them, they have other great qualities, be it location, amenities, pools, animals, etc.
That's what's great about DVC...Choices!
Looking forward to see what it will feel like going back to BLT, Kidani, or THV's after a long day in the park.
La2kw
04-16-2009, 10:45 PM
Sounds like you had your mind made up before your stay. Most of the reasons you stated for disliking OKW are the reasons we love OKW. You seem to prefer BWV, so that's probably where you would be happiest. For us, BWV is our least favorite resort. It seems way to big for the property it is located on, and those buses and slow boats drive me nuts. It feels way too crowded over there. Being able to walk to Epcot is not enough to ever get me to stay there again.
Pootle
04-17-2009, 03:14 AM
Your views are definitely different to mine.
As a long-time member, I own some points at BWV and had another short stay there last year (parking a distance away and buses both inconvenient - we stopped being park commandos years ago!). I don't plan on staying again for some time and my points will be used as additional OKW points at the 7th month window :thumbsup2
For every person's preference reported here, you are guaranteed to read of folks who take the opposing view - and I prefer South Point and have no issues with the buses; what's an extra 10 minutes when on vacation? ;)
Ron from Michigan
04-17-2009, 10:41 AM
We just returned 2 weeks ago from our first OKW stay and we loved it. We were in a 2 bd villa 3010# and loved it. We really enjoyed OKW. We just hopped on any bus when we wanted to go to the front of the property. The buses were really good on this trip never waited more than 10 minutes. The boat to DD was great. That is one of the things we always enjoyed about Port Orleans. We will be staying at OKW again in the future.
mgb123
04-17-2009, 10:42 AM
My family will be staying at OKW for the first time, next week, and I am wondering if the pool slide is to dangerous for my 4 year old daughter? According to the OP, the pool slide will pull you under at the end! Is this true. My daughter loves the slide at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club, but they did not pull her under at the end! Anyone have any info. Would we be able to walk over to SSR and use there slide?
La2kw
04-17-2009, 10:56 AM
My family will be staying at OKW for the first time, next week, and I am wondering if the pool slide is to dangerous for my 4 year old daughter? According to the OP, the pool slide will pull you under at the end! Is this true. My daughter loves the slide at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club, but they did not pull her under at the end! Anyone have any info. Would we be able to walk over to SSR and use there slide?
Hundreds of children have used that slide over the years, including my own. If it was that dangerous, we would have heard about it by now. No need to over react.
BEASLYBOO
04-17-2009, 11:13 AM
My family will be staying at OKW for the first time, next week, and I am wondering if the pool slide is to dangerous for my 4 year old daughter? According to the OP, the pool slide will pull you under at the end! Is this true. My daughter loves the slide at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club, but they did not pull her under at the end! Anyone have any info. Would we be able to walk over to SSR and use there slide?
My 3 year old nephew, we could not tear him away from the slide! Up and down, up and down! He cried when we told him it was time to head home for dinner, he did however sleep like a log at night! Wore him out!
JimMIA
04-17-2009, 11:33 AM
We were in the back (building 51), which was too far for the children (10 and 9) to walk to the Hospitality House. When they wanted to go to the arcade I put them on the bus and asked the driver to make sure they got out at the main building. They couldn't figure out how to get a bus home, and got lost trying to walk, so they called my and I drove up and brought them home. At BWV there is no problem with the kids going to the Arcade on their own; at OKW, it's a problem.I don't see this as a problem with OKW. :rolleyes:
Nor is it a problem with your kids. They are simply too young to be turned loose without supervision in a strange setting. If you had to request the bus driver make sure they got off in the right place, how could you possibly expect a 9 & 10 y/o to find their way back?
Thank goodness they had the good sense to call you and they got home safely!
JimMIA
04-17-2009, 11:37 AM
I'm also wondering why you thought enough of the bed problem to photograph it and include it in your post, but apparently didn't think it was serious enough to report to management so it could be rectified. :confused3
It's kind of hard to figure out what your real interest is... maybe :stir: ?
mgb123
04-17-2009, 11:45 AM
Hundreds of children have used that slide over the years, including my own. If it was that dangerous, we would have heard about it by now. No need to over react.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was over reacting, just didn't know if it was age appropriate for a 4 year old. But obviously it is, if a 3 year old couldn't get enough of it , and I am VERY happy to hear that! Thanks for the info!
BostonDisneyKid
04-17-2009, 11:53 AM
My thoughts exactly JimMIA. I am still trying to comprehend the original statement...
dcamdad
04-17-2009, 11:56 AM
I don't see this as a problem with OKW. :rolleyes:
Nor is it a problem with your kids. They are simply too young to be turned loose without supervision in a strange setting. If you had to request the bus driver make sure they got off in the right place, how could you possibly expect a 9 & 10 y/o to find their way back?
Thank goodness they had the good sense to call you and they got home safely!
Thank you JimMIA, I've been biting my lip for two days now trying to figure out how to respond. As a parent of 4 with my youngest now 10, there is no way I would even think about turning her loose in any place on her own, not even WDW. To expect strangers who work for WDW to basically "babysit" your kids is poor judgement in my book.
IAMaGR8DISMOM
04-17-2009, 01:03 PM
I like RCharnay's previous post describing OKW as dreamy!! I totally agree with that description. Our family loves this resort
Mississippian
04-17-2009, 11:19 PM
I don't see this as a problem with OKW. :rolleyes:
Nor is it a problem with your kids. They are simply too young to be turned loose without supervision in a strange setting. If you had to request the bus driver make sure they got off in the right place, how could you possibly expect a 9 & 10 y/o to find their way back?
Thank goodness they had the good sense to call you and they got home safely!
They both have cell phones for a reason. When I was growing up, from the time I was 7 I had the run of my home town. On Saturdays I would walk the half-mile or so to town and buy ice cream, comic books or go to the picture show. The notion that a mature 10- and 9-year-old need an adult with them at all times is ridiculous.
With that said, at BWV the game room is right there. There is no way the kids can get lost between the game room and the room, and it is easy for parents to drop by to check on them. You can't do that at OKW.
dianeschlicht
04-18-2009, 07:29 AM
They both have cell phones for a reason. When I was growing up, from the time I was 7 I had the run of my home town. On Saturdays I would walk the half-mile or so to town and buy ice cream, comic books or go to the picture show. The notion that a mature 10- and 9-year-old need an adult with them at all times is ridiculous.
With that said, at BWV the game room is right there. There is no way the kids can get lost between the game room and the room, and it is easy for parents to drop by to check on them. You can't do that at OKW.
Sorry, but if they got lost going to the game room at OKW, then perhaps they are NOT mature enough to be running around on their own. You were in building 51, I believe. That is VERY close to the South Point bus stop. Hopefully you told them South Point is the stop they needed. Did you also tell them they had to walk to Peninsular Road if they wanted to take the bus back? Usually it is much easier to walk than to wait for a bus back to that area. South Point is our favorite area, and it only takes about 8 minutes to walk from there to HH or from HH back.
Goofy's apprentice
04-18-2009, 08:56 PM
Another vote for OKW !
It was the first DVC we stayed at in 2004. Previously we were fans of Port Orleans and we were nervous that OKW wouldn't have enough action...there was no food court !!
It only took minutes before we fell in love. The spacious two-bedrooms (as an aside i am not a fan of OKW studios), the lovely grounds, the peaceful quiet pools...even our kids love it.
Now...we have spent the last five years trying all the other DVC's. Have found favourites in many of them for many reasons...but we are headed back to OKW next March for the nice big two-bedrooms and the peaceful Southpoint area.
gracelrm
04-19-2009, 11:14 AM
We own at VWL and have stayed at BCV, BWV, HH, VB and at OKW in Oct. 08. At every resort there are things we like and things we dislike, but to be quite honest we have enjoyed all of our stays at all resorts. We loved the size of the rooms at OKW, parking at the door, and the main pool area and the quiet pool area as well. We were in South Pointe and thought the location was fine. I have found over the years that when we allow ample time for WDW transportation we are pleased with the service; however, when we are slow to get ready or running later than intended - we tend to be displeased with the service. So in retrospect, I feel like our satisfaction with transportation is more a result of our own doing than with theirs. I think in all our trips to WDW there have only been a few unnecessarily long waits/trips. We've also learned over the years what bus rides tend to have too many stops at too many resorts - therefore we hop in our car and drive. I know some people that drive to every resort instead of using the bus, that's fine if that's what they want. I, for one, like to leave the driving to WDW in most cases and just sit back and enjoy the ride. I guess my point is "it is what you make it".
5forDiz
04-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Thank you JimMIA, I've been biting my lip for two days now trying to figure out how to respond. As a parent of 4 with my youngest now 10, there is no way I would even think about turning her loose in any place on her own, not even WDW. To expect strangers who work for WDW to basically "babysit" your kids is poor judgement in my book.
Yep, I'm with you & JimMIA on this (I'd feel same if it was another resort too)
Saratoga Souris
04-19-2009, 12:34 PM
Interesting
I go to Olivia's each trip.... even if I am NOT staying at OKW
The spread-out nature of the resort, makes it my FAVOURITE!
I don't understand the "poor location" comment:confused3
La2kw
04-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I don't understand the "poor location" comment:confused3
Since the OP seems to prefer BWV over OKW, I think they are of the opinion that since you have a short walk to the back entrance of Epcot, that makes it a superior location to OKW.
I disagree because even though you may have a short walk to the back entrance of Epcot, you still have to walk a very long distance to get to the front of Epcot or to the entrance to the studios. You also can take the boats, but those are frustratingly slow, IMO. Everywhere else, you have to take a bus that often shares with 6 other resorts. I guess those 5 bus stops are somehow superior to the 5 at OKW.
Mississippian
04-19-2009, 06:33 PM
Since the OP seems to prefer BWV over OKW, I think they are of the opinion that since you have a short walk to the back entrance of Epcot, that makes it a superior location to OKW.
I disagree because even though you may have a short walk to the back entrance of Epcot, you still have to walk a very long distance to get to the front of Epcot or to the entrance to the studios. You also can take the boats, but those are frustratingly slow, IMO. Everywhere else, you have to take a bus that often shares with 6 other resorts. I guess those 5 bus stops are somehow superior to the 5 at OKW.
First of all, I didn't slam OKW in my review. I had a number of highly complimentary things to say, and said OKW was an excellent value. BUT, the transportation issue was a problem for me, particularly since we were only staying three nights. I said I would consider OKW for a stay of at least five nights, but didn't find it acceptable for a short stay.
I really think it depends on what one wants to do at WDW. I like the "back" area of EPCOT, since I will go there just to eat. It's roughly the same distance to a World Showcare restaurnt from the BWV as it is from the bus let-off point, so every minute spent waiting for and getting to or from EPCOT on a bus is time lost.
Obviously the walking-distance advantage isn't important to lots of people. But I'm not going to lie and say that something that is important to me is "no problem" and great. It was a little bit of a problem, that's all. I've now tried a "spread out" resort and just have a stronger-than-ever preference for a resort with quick access to at least two parks. Live and learn.
Disneymom2266
04-19-2009, 07:24 PM
You have to remember anytime you go at peak season, you are not going to get your choice of where in the resort you want to stay. I would think the grand villas would be in a different location from the other accomodations, therefore maybe a bit of a walk from the HH. I have heard people complain even about SS how spread out it is. Try it again during off season, and you might have your pick of location. We had a fabulous stay at OKW every time we`ve been there. As long as the beds are clean, you cant expect that there might not be a stain on the sofa every now and then.
LadybugMomma
04-20-2009, 10:22 AM
We love OKW and have never had a problem with the buses. That fact that the buses are dedicated to OKW is great. We travel during off peak times so the buses are hardly ever crowded. I can't imagine going at peak times and having the buses full :scared1:
Silver Queen
04-20-2009, 01:11 PM
We will be at OKW this weekend for our first stay there. (We own at SSR and have been looking forward to trying OKW because we love the ambience.) We will only be there for three nights this trio but are not deterred at all by this controversy. We much prefer the spread out nature of OKW and SSR to the "big hotel" feel of some of the other resorts. That being said I'm sure we will enjoy many aspects of BWV when we stay there sometime in the future. Our goals is to try all of the resorts (our next two trips are scheduled for AKL (Kidani) and WLV. In the meanwhile I know that we're going to just love OKW.
nappingbeauty
04-20-2009, 02:25 PM
When did small children begin getting credited with being mature? They are children. Plain and simple. children are children and who is to say how they will react do varying situations... they just don't have the maturity to handle most things they are unfamiliar with.
Kickapoo Joie Juice
04-20-2009, 04:33 PM
I don't see this as a problem with OKW. :rolleyes:
Nor is it a problem with your kids. They are simply too young to be turned loose without supervision in a strange setting. If you had to request the bus driver make sure they got off in the right place, how could you possibly expect a 9 & 10 y/o to find their way back?
Thank goodness they had the good sense to call you and they got home safely!
Yeah, I had this same reaction. I have 10 and 8 yo daughters, and there's just no way on God's green earth I would put them on the bus and ask the driver to take responsibility for my children.
Disney is, in fact, one of the few places on earth where I will let them out of my direct line of sight at all. In other words, if I'm at Olivia's, I'll let them check out the arcade, with strict orders to report back if they want to try something else. They usually have to prove to me they can find their way to and from any (close) location before I let them go.
And these are not stupid children-I think that kids just don't have the same directional sense as (most) adults.
The slide, back on topic, has been their favorite slide since they put the slide in! They used to wear little puffy swim suits that would keep them above the water when they were little, but since they were about 6 they didn't need them. You can buy the suits at Target, if you're worried about 4 year olds on the slide.
mgb123
04-20-2009, 04:46 PM
Thanks Kickapoo Joie Juice! I was thinking about purchasing such an item for my 4 year old, in the pool. Typically my husband or I wait at the end of the slide and grab her as she comes off! Is the depth of the pool at the end of the slide shallow enough to do so? We are 5'6 and 5'11. We do this at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club.
mgb123
04-20-2009, 05:03 PM
Thanks Kickapoo Joie Juice! I was thinking about purchasing such an item for my 4 year old, in the pool. Typically my husband or I wait at the end of the slide and grab her as she comes off! Is the depth of the pool at the end of the slide shallow enough to do so? We are 5'6 and 5'11. We do this at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club.
bakmmo
04-20-2009, 05:59 PM
Old Key West is my Favorite resort and my home resort. It is much larger square footage than the other resorts......I like the way the resort is more like condo's than a hotel...set up. When I started to go I always requested building #51. I liked that you could hear the bus come thru the circle and get out to the stop without waiting...My kids were also very young and if I left them at the kids center, I would arrange with either the counselor or the bell hop to drive them home on a vehicle. Sometimes they even got to steer the vehicle......or they would call my room and I would hop a bus to get them. I never had an issue.... I'll be there again this August for several weeks..
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Kickapoo Joie Juice
04-21-2009, 07:30 AM
Thanks Kickapoo Joie Juice! I was thinking about purchasing such an item for my 4 year old, in the pool. Typically my husband or I wait at the end of the slide and grab her as she comes off! Is the depth of the pool at the end of the slide shallow enough to do so? We are 5'6 and 5'11. We do this at Wilderness Lodge and at Beach Club.
Definitely, I think it's about 4 feet deep. It's very similar to Wliderness lodge.
Here's a picture of younger DD in her "puffy suit" at the OKW slide when she was 5. She definitely doesn't need it now, she swims like a fish!
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x205/kickapoojoiejuice/DisneyWorldMarch2005197.jpg
bonrea
04-21-2009, 07:55 AM
Here's a pic of one of the beds. Both of them in this bedroom looked like this. The "curve" is NOT caused by any wide angle of the lens. That's the way the bed looked.
http://www.landbuffet.com/disney/curvybed.jpg
Check out the thread I started on the OKW beds: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2134894
We like OKW. The pool and the slide are the best and the rooms are great. But the beds? OMG...
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Bob Price
04-21-2009, 01:31 PM
I don't see this as a problem with OKW. :rolleyes:
Nor is it a problem with your kids. They are simply too young to be turned loose without supervision in a strange setting. If you had to request the bus driver make sure they got off in the right place, how could you possibly expect a 9 & 10 y/o to find their way back?
Thank goodness they had the good sense to call you and they got home safely!
:lmao::happytv::laughing::scared1::rotfl:
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