How reliable is allears?

[CampingBandit]

I have visited that website on and off since our last WDW visit, found it quite helpful.

But now us noobs are planning our first trip to the fort in Nov., and I'm starting to obsess :rolleyes: about our yet to be assigned campsite. The loops described on ears - how accurate is that site's info?:confused:

I've seen posts like this one....
Hello, Did you request a premium or preferred or full hook up? We were in the 1700 loop which is a pet loop but the site was really big. We had a lot of room to spread out.


and others, and I think I'd tend to take the experience of these firsthandmembers here. But allears contridicts the above poster's info.....they say 1700 is a preferred non-pet loop....so I have to wonder which is correct?

Is the general consensus on Dis that allears is allwet?

Can I trust the info on there? Or is the contradiction a result of all the construction/updating going on, temporary petloops and whatnot?

Since it's our first visit and I'm not sure what to expect, I guess I just want reasurrance. I don't know why I'm so paranoid :confused3 - we toured the fort when we visited last March. I don't recall seeing a "bad" site.

Planning to request 700, looks nice from the pics I've seen, looks like DH hubby won't have parking issues and the location is centrally located - halfway between the pool and the marina.

Gosh the waiting is awful. Can't get here soon enough for me!:thumbsup2

[Tri-circle-D]

No offense to the good folks at All Ears, but the info you posted about the 1700 loop is absolutely wrong. At least currently. I have been to the Fort for three stays this year. I can tell you with absolute certainty that at the present time the 1700 is classified as a full-hook up pet loop. Not a premium non-pet loop.

Admittedly, there is a lot of confusion at present, because WDW has not stuck with the schedule that it originally announced, and apparently has changed its original plan to eliminate all full hook up loops. I would guess that it will be later this year before all the dust settles, and we can finally say with certainty what is what.

I promise you that the information you get here is accurate and up to date.

TCD

[clkelley]

Yep, AllEars information on the Fort is a bit off.

The information there is from the original press release when the upgrades were announced.

Many things have changed since then, and until the entire renovation is complete, I don't think "anyone" know for sure what loops will be pet loops or non pet loops.

We are "pretty" sure that 1600 - 1900 will remain Full Hookup.

We have no clue as to what 900 - 1100 is going to be. Choices: Upgrade to Premium, Leave as Full, or reclassify to Preferred.

Also, on some of the new Premium Loops, some were said to be pet loops and some were not, but it appears they have put "cleanup bag" dispensers in all of the Premium Loops.

I've known Deb for quite a few years, so after everything is done and we know for sure, what loops are what, if one of her staff hasn't already updated everything, I'll send a detailed email advising of the corrections.

[Tri-circle-D]

Also, on some of the new Premium Loops, some were said to be pet loops and some were not, but it appears they have put "cleanup bag" dispensers in all of the Premium Loops.


Carol- You can check for yourself when you are there later this month, but I looked for poop bags on 1200, 1300 and 1400, and saw none. It is not like they don't have the dispensers to put up, because there are three on the 600 loop now (2 on the new part, and 1 on the old part). Most of the other pet loops only have one. They must be expecting a lot of poop to happen on 600?:confused3

TCD

[ftwildernessguy]

The most accurate and entertaining source of Fort information is right here.

[clkelley]

Carol- You can check for yourself when you are there later this month, but I looked for poop bags on 1200, 1300 and 1400, and saw none. It is not like they don't have the dispensers to put up, because there are three on the 600 loop now (2 on the new part, and 1 on the old part). Most of the other pet loops only have one. They must be expecting a lot of poop to happen on 600?:confused3

TCD

My bad, for some reason I thought I had read about dispensers on all premium loops.

[BradyBz12]

I agree that when it comes to the loop assignments/info., with all the refurb. craziness over the last year or so, there aren't too many sources that have the latest and greatest info - AllEars included.

Actually, I'm pretty sure this is IT - thanks to all the great folks here that get to the Fort regularly enough to keep us up-to-date. :thumbsup2

When it comes to lots of other things, I think AllEars is pretty reliable.

[ftwildernessguy]

When it comes to lots of other things, I think AllEars is pretty reliable.

But not nearly as entertaining.

[fldisneyfamily]

This site has the poop on everything!!!:lmao:

[DisneyBishops]

I will be at the fort in a few hours. I am hoping to loop and see for myself what is there and is not there.

If i get a chance to log on the internet while there i will try and update everyone as much as possible.

off to the fort.

I will drink a cold one tonight for all you that aren't there in body.

[Just Beachy]

I will be at the fort in a few hours. I am hoping to loop and see for myself what is there and is not there.

If i get a chance to log on the internet while there i will try and update everyone as much as possible.

off to the fort.

I will drink a cold one tonight for all you that aren't there in body.

Thanks, Dan. Knowing you're drinking a cold one in my honor while you're at the Fort without me is so nice of you....:sad2:

Have a great time! Don't forget to look for MrsGus and BigDisneyDaddy.

[ftwildernessguy]

Dan - I am especially curious about the poop situation on the 600 loop. Be sure to check it out for me.

[AuburnJen92]

Dan - I am especially curious about the poop situation on the 600 loop. Be sure to check it out for me.

Make sure Al's stall #2 is nice and cleaned!:)

[Tri-circle-D]

Make sure Al's stall #2 is nice and cleaned!:)

There is no #2 stall on the 600 loop.

In fact, there is no comfort station at all.

Wait a minute . . .

. . . you don't think there is a correlation between the lack of comfort stations and the extra poop bag dispensers, do you? :scared1:

TCD

[CampingBandit]

I will be at the fort in a few hours. I am hoping to loop and see for myself what is there and is not there.

If i get a chance to log on the internet while there i will try and update everyone as much as possible.

off to the fort.

I will drink a cold one tonight for all you that aren't there in body.


SSSSOOOOO jealous of you!!!! Have a great time!

Thanks everyone for the info..... kinda what I suspected.;)

[Just Beachy]

. . . you don't think there is a correlation between the lack of comfort stations and the extra poop bag dispensers, do you? :scared1:

TCD

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[auntie]

. . . you don't think there is a correlation between the lack of comfort stations and the extra poop bag dispensers, do you? :scared1:

TCD

:rotfl2:

Let's hope not!

[BradyBz12]

But not nearly as entertaining.

Not even close!! :dance3:

For entertainment AND accuracy, this joint takes the prize for sure! :disrocks:

[Mickey Mobile]

I agree that when it comes to the loop assignments/info., with all the refurb. craziness over the last year or so, there aren't too many sources that have the latest and greatest info - AllEars included.

Actually, I'm pretty sure this is IT - thanks to all the great folks here that get to the Fort regularly enough to keep us up-to-date. :thumbsup2

When it comes to lots of other things, I think AllEars is pretty reliable.

You are right! Having all the awesome reporting and photos of all the changes at the Fort and some good laughs along the way with some very helpful tips. This is the best place for me to get info on the Fort and enjoy doing it at the same time. Thanks to all who share the info on our favorite place to enjoy our family time together.:thumbsup2

[Tigger1966]

When we made our reservations the CM guaranteed us that the 1700 & 1900 were full hookup nonpet loops. and another CM confirmed this when we checked on getting in the 100-200 loops.

[Goofyseven]

When we made our reservations the CM guaranteed us that the 1700 & 1900 were full hookup nonpet loops. and another CM confirmed this when we checked on getting in the 100-200 loops.
They may be non pet loops, but folks with pets may be placed in those loops!!

[clkelley]

KUDOS to All Ears.

I went through and edited their FAQ and sent it to them and got an email reply back and they updated it!!!!!

Of course, as we all know now, Loop 900 has been started.

But so far, that is the only error!!

[BradyBz12]

Sweet! Thanks for doing that Carole. They do have a pretty thorough FW page - more than most sites - glad it's all up-to-date and accurate. :thumbsup2

[Tri-circle-D]

KUDOS to All Ears.

I went through and edited their FAQ and sent it to them and got an email reply back and they updated it!!!!!

Of course, as we all know now, Loop 900 has been started.

But so far, that is the only error!!


Carol- Thanks for trying to get the incorrect information fixed, but what does this sentence (from allears.net) mean?

Non-preferred sites are located farther from the Pioneer Hall/marina area. A Full Hookup site in a Preferred area will include cable, but you can have a non-cable (Partial Hookup) site in a Preferred loop.

The statement: "you can have a non-cable (Partial Hookup) site in a Preferred loop." Is not correct, and to my knowledge, that has never been the case at FW.

Also, the site states that 400 and 600 are non-pet loops, but here are photos that I have taken post-renovation of poop bag dispensers in these loops:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ThanksgivingFW2008524.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009204.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/FW33109679.jpg


And, they say 1700 and 1900 are not pet loops, but here are poop bag dispensers in 1600-1900:

1600:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009420.jpg

The photo above is at the loop entrance. The photo below is at the walkway to the comfort station between 1600 and 1500:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009421.jpg

1700:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009419.jpg

1800:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009416.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009417.jpg

1900:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009418.jpg


TCD

So, folks, this forum remains the best place in cyberspace for current and accurate FW info.

[Tigger1966]

They may be getting some of it from disney. When DW changed our rese last week the CM told her that 1900 Absolutely was not a pet loop but I read on here that there are bag dispensers and pets there.

[clkelley]

Carol- Thanks for trying to get the incorrect information fixed, but what does this sentence (from allears.net) mean?

Non-preferred sites are located farther from the Pioneer Hall/marina area. A Full Hookup site in a Preferred area will include cable, but you can have a non-cable (Partial Hookup) site in a Preferred loop.

The statement: "you can have a non-cable (Partial Hookup) site in a Preferred loop." Is not correct, and to my knowledge, that has never been the case at FW.

Also, the site states that 400 and 600 are non-pet loops, but here are photos that I have taken post-renovation of poop bag dispensers in these loops:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ThanksgivingFW2008524.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009204.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/FW33109679.jpg


And, they say 1700 and 1900 are not pet loops, but here are poop bag dispensers in 1600-1900:

1600:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009420.jpg

The photo above is at the loop entrance. The photo below is at the walkway to the comfort station between 1600 and 1500:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009421.jpg

1700:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009419.jpg

1800:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009416.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009417.jpg

1900:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn76/Tri-Circle-D/ValentinesDayPresidentsDay2009418.jpg


TCD

So, folks, this forum remains the best place in cyberspace for current and accurate FW info.

I agree with you completely!!

I told them that Pet Loops were in total flux right now and that nobody knew which loops were going to be pet or non-pet, but they left the original designations from the constructions press release and just put a disclaimer at the bottom of that.

Also in my edit, I deleted the paragraph you mentioned above, because it makes no sense whatsoever. But I guess they took that as no changes to that paragraph and left it.

Once all the renovations are complete, I'll resend edits and make sure I note about that 1 paragraph needing to be deleted completely!!

[BradyBz12]

They may be getting some of it from disney. When DW changed our rese last week the CM told her that 1900 Absolutely was not a pet loop but I read on here that there are bag dispensers and pets there.

That may be what it says on the CM's list, but it is true that Disney has put pet people in non-pet loops when needed. At this point I don't think it's safe to say that any loop is 100% guaranteed not to have pets on it.

[Tri-circle-D]

Once all the renovations are complete, I'll resend edits and make sure I note about that 1 paragraph needing to be deleted completely!!


Makes sense to me.

Until all is said and done, who knows?

I would think that they would make two of the full hook up loops non-pet, but, then, there has also been word given to some that the entire Fort is going to become pet-friendly. So all loops may become pet loops.

TCD

[CampingBandit]

Isn't it possible that they just put the bag dispensers everywhere just for convenience of dog walkers who walk outside of their loop? Is it written somewhere that if a loop has a dispenser that means it is a pet loop, couldn't it just mean they want people to do a better job of picking up, so as not to inconvenience those in non-pet loops? I imagine with all the construction it will be irregular for awhile and when everything is done they'll get back to regular pet loops and non-pet loops....

Never camped there so what do I know, LOL :)

[Shan-man]

The problem with that theory is a few loops that have been otherwise renovated have not received poop bag dispensers: 1200, 1300, and 1400. If this bit of evidence doesn't hold to be true then we have NO IDEA which loops are pet/non-pet.

:santa:

[BradyBz12]

Isn't it possible that they just put the bag dispensers everywhere just for convenience of dog walkers who walk outside of their loop? Is it written somewhere that if a loop has a dispenser that means it is a pet loop, couldn't it just mean they want people to do a better job of picking up, so as not to inconvenience those in non-pet loops?

Could be, although technically if the pet is really a "no pets" loop, people shouldn't be walking their pets there either, therefore no need for clean up bags. ;)

More likely (or maybe just wishful thinking) that the rumor of most/all of the Fort becoming pet friendly isn't such a pie-in-the-sky rumor after all.

Time will tell.... :rolleyes:

[ftwildernessguy]

Bobby likes doggies. So does Johnny. They both like a doggie friendly Fort. You do the math.

[BradyBz12]

:dog: + :dog2: = :dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance: :dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance: :dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance::dogdance: :dogdance:

[des1954]

Here's why you find poop bag dispensers on 1600-1900 loops. Those were the original pet loops. Then they added 300 as a preferred pet loop. After that - all bets are off.

I predict that FtW will one day be an entirely pet friendly park. Heck....I've seen dogs on every loop in FtW except the cabin loops. How much you wanna bet someone at sometime snuck their dog into a cabin? I snuck my cats into PORS when we were evacuated there from FtW during a tropical storm. If I've done it, you can bet someone has had their dog in a cabin with them overnight.

[CampingBandit]

Could be, although technically if the pet is really a "no pets" loop, people shouldn't be walking their pets there either, therefore no need for clean up bags. ;)



Really? I didn't realize, I just assumed people could walk their pets wherever.

[Tri-circle-D]

Really? I didn't realize, I just assumed people could walk their pets wherever.

Yes, really.

Before all of the recent confusion, there used to be signs posted at the exits to the pet loops which said "No Pets Beyond This Point." Up until early 2008, dogs were not allowed out of the designated pet loops, not even on golf carts. When the Dog Park opened early last year, some of these signs got moved, because folks were allowed to walk their dogs, along designated paths, to the Dog Park.

Since then, the loop renovations have happened, and the "No Pets Beyond This Point" signs have all but disappeared.

In March, when the 600 loop addition opened, I saw a family playing catch with their dog on the grass in front of the Meadow Trading Post. This area used to be off limits to dogs. But, the 600 loop is now a pet loop, so I guess guests figure the adjacent areas are OK for pets, too.

I am waiting to see dogs swimming in the lake in front of the Bike Barn. It is bound to happen. (The alligators are waiting, too).


TCD

[guardwife66]

Yes, really.

I am waiting to see dogs swimming in the lake in front of the Bike Barn. It is bound to happen. (The alligators are waiting, too).


TCD

:eek: I sure hope we don't go feeding the alligators. :)

[BradyBz12]

I am waiting to see dogs swimming in the lake in front of the Bike Barn. It is bound to happen. (The alligators are waiting, too).

Bad enough when I take our border collie down to the end of the 300 canal dog walk he always tries to jump into the canal. He's actually managed it a few times when I wasn't paying close enough attention (stupid me - that's how he got a tail full of burrs once too!).

I'm sure it's quite a sight to see a grown woman freaking out and reeling her dog in like she was trying to beat the Guinness record for the fastest landing of a tuna!

Apparently he didn't get the memo about the gators.... :scared1:

[ftwildernessguy]

Bobby says the new splash zone will be doggie friendly.

[BradyBz12]

:lmao:

...although that would make my pooches VERY happy... not to mention provide a boatload of entertainment for the humans (ever see a border collie try and herd squirting water??) :dance3:

[CampingBandit]

(The alligators are waiting, too).


TCD

:lmao::lmao::lmao: