OK guys, I am home....

[RvUsa]

Well, I am home.... A lot happy, and a little concerned. LOL

This guy was the surgeon, he said the CT says the aneurysm is 5.4cm, not 5.9cm and the guideline is 5.5cm for operation for someone of my "size" .... so it got about this (_) much to spare lol.

He wants me to get the WLS and then come back and see him, but he would not clear me for it, he says I have to see another cardio guy to get his clearance LOL.

So I have another appointment tomorrow morning lol. I don't know if the WLS guy will even touch me now, so I am in kinda a giant catch 22, surgeon won't fix the heart till I have WLS, he won't clear me for WLS, have to another guy to get clearance, and then the WLS guy might not even do it LOL

So, I will have to have open heart surgery at some point, and I will have to monitored on a regular basis, with echo's and ct's to make sure it doesn't grow too fast, and if it does get bigger then I will get cut no matter how fat I am lol.

So here we are, still in a holding pattern, but at least I got a while to be 'prepaired'.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR LOVE AND CONCERN!!!

Talk at yins later.


:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:

[BRDof3]

We're hanging on every word Johnny boy. Good luck wth the medical run-around, and let us know how we can ever help.

I'd say watch some TV and relax, but given the options on TV, that wouldn't be very enjoyable.

Praying for you Buddy! :worship:

[Gatordad]

good deal John.....

[3gr8kids]

Wow, John, that really is a catch 22.
Anyway, I'm glad you're home and I'm happy that it isn't as bad as they first led you to believe.
I think now would be a good time for you to kick back and relax as much as possible - you've been through quite a bit of stress lately. :)

[Born 2 Fish]

You know buddy, anything we can do, :thumbsup2.
Absolutely got your back on prayers.




Check Rvusa , I posted there.

[Just Beachy]

Glad to hear it's not as bad as they thought. But, geez! What a run-around. Well, if the WLS Doc won't clear you, you can do weight watchers with Amanda, Ami and me. We'd love to have you join us! Heck, you might not even need the WLS... :woohoo:

[RvUsa]

I want a couple hundred beers and to go camping!!! LOL Thanks guys. :)

[Born 2 Fish]

I want a couple hundred beers and to go camping!!! LOL Thanks guys. :)

Like I said,,Anything we can do ,,,:thumbsup2

[BRDof3]

I want a couple hundred beers and to go camping!!! LOL Thanks guys. :)

I can give you a couple hundred used Kleenex's and an empty bottle of Robitussin. :lmao:

[vick]

I hope you can get cleared for the WLS John. You'll continue to be in my prayers. Hang in there and keep us posted! We all love you!

[2goofycampers]

I know the limbo stinks, but tomorrow should bring a resolution as to what is your next step. Hoping and praying it goes your way.

[ntsammy5]

I want a couple hundred beers and to go camping :)

I've got 3 cases you're welcometo. Glad to hear things are a little better....

[AuburnJen92]

I am routing for the second opinion...

Hang in there John, we are all along for the ride with ya!

[des1954]

John - Sitting in the "inbetween" is not a pleasant place to be. If either the 2nd cardiologist or the WLS nixes the WLSurgery, it's for a very good reason. They would only deny the WLS if it were too risky for you because of the heart condition. Try everything you can yourself to start losing the weight. I KNOW how difficult that is, because I'm no light-weight myself. BUT it can be done. I'm keeping you in my prayers that no matter what happens, it will be the right thing for you and your family. :hug:

[PolynesianPixie]

You're still in my prayers John! :goodvibes

[RvUsa]

Thanks everyone! I am feel like such a schmo, :blush: I promise I will keep my mouth shut and not go on and on about this any more. :scared: I just feel so embarrassed. Feel free to call me chicken little. From what my PCP said I figured I would be in the hospital by tomorrow night... now it won't be for a while. lol

Thanks for all the thoughts and well wishes.

Now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

[PolynesianPixie]

Thanks everyone! I am feel like such a schmo, :blush: I promise I will keep my mouth shut and not go on and on about this any more. :scared: I just feel so embarrassed. Feel free to call me chicken little. From what my PCP said I figured I would be in the hospital by tomorrow night... now it won't be for a while. lol

Thanks for all the thoughts and well wishes.

Now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

SCHMO???? Uh ah...no! But you are thick in the head you dingbat! The prayers are simply WORKING!!!!! :hug:

[2goofycampers]

SCHMO???? Uh ah...no! But you are thick in the head you dingbat! The prayers are simply WORKING!!!!! :hug:

Ditto,

only way we could get upset with you is if you keep saying your chicken little, any of us finds a little blip on or in our body we are gonna be scared and freaked out and share it with our friends. :surfweb:

[Gatordad]

Lou Gehrig would have played.

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Hey John - I hope the other cardiologist will sign off on the surgery and that the WLS surgeon will do it. I'll keep praying for you. But its a good thing that you were doing the testing for the surgery so that they could at least find this problem.

And no, you're not a SCHMO!

[ntsammy5]

You mean one of these?

http://juleslife.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/shmoo.jpg


Keep on posting, I like to look at Jim's comments......... :lmao:

[Just Beachy]

John, we are still here for you. I (and I'm not the only one) am still praying for you. We're all pulling for your good health. We want you around for a long time, mister! Please keep us posted as to what the next Doc says.

[ftwildernessguy]

i hate hospitals. that's why i don't work at one anymore. get your butt out of bed and have a beer.

[RvUsa]

Ok, for all those keeping box scores, it's the bottom of the second inning and I am 1 and 1, lol.

Today's cardiologist was cool too, I started with an ekg (my first one of those in about 20 yrs) and said it was perfect, he says he is in between on the measurement of the aorta, says the echo could have been on an angle, and the ct could be a little small cuz of all of the pressors and nitro they gave me to get my bp and pulse down.... so hi ho hi ho, of to an TEE ( trans esouphegial echocardio gram for those of you keepping track ) I go.

I go in tomorrow morning for a TEE, and I don't know, maybe they can add up all the sizes and divide by 3 http://www.valvereplacement.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

I feel like a freeking yo yo, you do you don't you do, maybe..... he says he is a little more concerned about the valve, than the other guy, because of my shortness of breath, chest pain, fatigue, (which has been more than the normal fat guy fatigue over the last couple months), poor color, cold hands and feet, and occasional dizziness.

So I let em shove the thing down my throat in the morning... (which is a lot easier than going in from the other end by the way) and see where we stand from there.. LOL

I will keep those of you still reading this soap opera up to date.

Thanks I love you guys!

John the human yo yo

[des1954]

Oh, dear God, John!!!

Gregory House & his team would have cracked you open, repaired the valve & the aneurysm, lipo-sucked the fat out, tightened up the loose skin, put in the lap-band, performed a vasectomy or a reversal if that was necessary, and sent you home....all within an hour!! Geesh!! Tell these guys you don't have any health insurance so they get down to the basics of the problem without putting you thru all this crap and thus padding their portfolio's.

This would be driving me nutz!!!

Hang in there, John! We're with you every step of the way.:hug:

[Just Beachy]

Whew! I'm a little dizzy just trying to keep up. Maybe the Dr tomorrow will know something. In the meantime, I'll be staying tuned. I think we need to come up with a name for this saga. How about "Another Day, Another Dr."...or maybe "All My Cardiologists"... :rolleyes1 Sorry, John. Just trying to make you smile. :goodvibes

[BRDof3]

Haning in there with ya, John! :wizard:

[3gr8kids]

Haning in there with ya, John! :wizard:

I wanna "han" too! LOL

[Born 2 Fish]

Yo Yo !! I get it now !!:lmao: At first I thought you were try'n to sound lik'a teenage thug !:lmao:

Main thing is, your finding things out,,all tho slow be the go,,but your finding things out. :thumbsup2

[disney92]

John, I am still reading and praying for you. :hug:

[ntsammy5]

popcorn::

This is good reading, John. I just wish it was fiction. Get better big guy!

[Gatordad]

Ok, for all those keeping box scores, it's the bottom of the second inning and I am 1 and 1, lol.

Today's cardiologist was cool too, I started with an ekg (my first one of those in about 20 yrs) and said it was perfect, he says he is in between on the measurement of the aorta, says the echo could have been on an angle, and the ct could be a little small cuz of all of the pressors and nitro they gave me to get my bp and pulse down.... so hi ho hi ho, of to an TEE ( trans esouphegial echocardio gram for those of you keepping track ) I go.

I go in tomorrow morning for a TEE, and I don't know, maybe they can add up all the sizes and divide by 3 http://www.valvereplacement.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

I feel like a freeking yo yo, you do you don't you do, maybe..... he says he is a little more concerned about the valve, than the other guy, because of my shortness of breath, chest pain, fatigue, (which has been more than the normal fat guy fatigue over the last couple months), poor color, cold hands and feet, and occasional dizziness.

So I let em shove the thing down my throat in the morning... (which is a lot easier than going in from the other end by the way) and see where we stand from there.. LOL

I will keep those of you still reading this soap opera up to date.

Thanks I love you guys!

John the human yo yoC'mon John, get Lou in the game!!!

[mrsscooter]

Me too! Me too! My thoughts and prayers are with you as well. You are a great guy and a wealth of information........and laughs. You will be well and on the road to the Fort in no time.

[ftwildernessguy]

Me too! Me too! My thoughts and prayers are with you as well. You are a great guy and a wealth of information........and laughs. You will be well and on the road to the Fort in no time.

And he does a helluva job at movie play by play.

[mrsscooter]

I have yet to experience that, but I am sure he does it well!

[AuburnJen92]

Best of luck on your TEE tomorrow.

[eagles]

continued prayers for you!

[Eeyore'sthebest]

Good luck with your test today John. I'll keep praying for you. :hug:

I think I need to hit St. Pat's at lunch today and light some candles. Between this board and the Community Board there are lots of prayers being said. :sad1::hug:

[mrsscooter]

Your in my thoughts and prayers this morning while your having your TEE done....we look forward to hearing from you as soon as your up to it!

[vick]

Wow John. Another day, another doctor. Keep us posted. You're still in my prayers!

[Just Beachy]

Has anyone heard from John? Just wondering how things went today. I think he said his appointment was early this morning...

[RvUsa]

OK, I'm home, I got a little hangover, headache, but the test was a peice of cake... still a little loopy, and need a nap but I am alive.

It said 5.4cm same as the CT so who knows what is next?? This doc said he would call with results and I have follow up appt in 6 weeks, 6 WEEKS!!! are you kidding me?

I will be calling a doc at a real hospital monday morning LOL.

will be back when my head isn't kiling me, matt's popcicles are taking a hit right now, feels good on my throat after they shoved that garden hose down it!!! they gavve me 100 of phentnol, and 10 of versaid, saaid that was more than double what most get.... but I was wide awake throught the whole thing, I never even fell asleep till I got home.

later thanks for your support, I will probably have to edit this when I sober up to see the mistakes LOL

[2goofycampers]

Glad you got one more test down, you're are getting close to an answer. ;)Hope your throat is well enough to chat tonight. ;)

[RvUsa]

You know, there isn't anyone on here at 1am, 2:30am, 3:30 am, and 4:45 am..... :lmao:

This is kinda weird, I have had about 4hrs sleep total since thursday morning..... I am starting to think the loopiness isn't from the sedation today...:confused3

[des1954]

It's kinda hard to turn off that perpetual motion picture in your head when you should be sleeping, John. Worrying will do that to you.

Look at it this way, if the Dr said 6 weeks, it's something that needs attending to, just not immediately. You are going to be all right, John. It's scary, I know, but you will be okay. Just try and stay away from researching your condition on the internet. That just serves to drive you crazy.

We've got you covered in prayer. Sit back, relax, and let us & God handle this one!

[disney4dan]

Hope you're feeling better today John. For future reference, the anesthesiologist told my son that it's better to keep that drink (assuming the sedatives they gave you were in a cheap plastic shot glass) in your mouth for a while, swirling it around to let it get absorbed there, faster and quicker to the brain and less wasted on the rest of the body. Told him it was a quick tip on how to save money on booze while in college.

He then turned to us and said he probably shouldn't have said that out loud to a 15 yo. :confused3 Gotta love a Doc with a sense of humor and a realistic outlook on life.

Glad to hear you are still with us ready to give it another day. Camping weather is here (a little cold, but here).

[BRDof3]

No fears John. You're simply not allowed to have any problems that would prevent us from camping together. It's that simple! :happytv:

[mrsscooter]

No fears John. You're simply not allowed to have any problems that would prevent us from camping together. It's that simple! :happytv:


Here......here!!! I agree......I am waiting to meet you and many other "personalities" at a grand gathering some time soon! Still thinking of you and your family and sending more prayers your way!!

[Eeyore'sthebest]

John - Hope you're feeling alright. What's the next step?

[RvUsa]

Thanks guys, feeling a little better, still gonna look into getting a second opinion, and see what we can do about the WLS, I will keep everyone up to date!

Thanks so much for everyone's thoughts and prayers!!!

[ntsammy5]

I'de get a third opinion too! keep us up to date John. Will this impact your alcohol intake?

[Just Beachy]

John, just wondering how you're doing and what's going on with your Drs and appointments....

[RvUsa]

John, just wondering how you're doing and what's going on with your Drs and appointments....


I just don't know what to think and do now :( 3 Doctors, 3 tests, and nobody agrees!

So what to do.... we are going camping! LOL

Thanks for asking :lmao:

[2goofycampers]

So you are taking my avatar advice, which was originally said to you. ;)

[Just Beachy]

I just don't know what to think and do now :( 3 Doctors, 3 tests, and nobody agrees!

So what to do.... we are going camping! LOL

Thanks for asking :lmao:

Maybe try a 4th opinion? Then again, the 4th Dr might not agree with any of the previous 3 either.... Could you go to a Dr in a different area maybe? Perhaps Philadelphia?

[Gatordad]

Go see a witch Dr......

I'd go to NY, the medicine is better there.

[bord1niowa]

I just don't know what to think and do now :( 3 Doctors, 3 tests, and nobody agrees!

So what to do.... we are going camping! LOL

Thanks for asking :lmao:

I'd just bring the results of all 3 DRs to each other and tell them "2 of you are wrong and shouldn't be paid, now which one of you will be paid?":lmao:maybe they'll come up with the right answer, which may even be a fourth!