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SimonV
06-03-2002, 02:36 PM
OK, just back from the latest Brit’s Guide research trip to central Florida, and here’s a (very) brief note of what’s new (or closed), forthcoming or worth a second look:

Seminole County (i.e. the bit to the north of Orlando!) – Katie’s Wekiva River Landing has closed, so no kayaking here any more (but you can have a go with the new Cypress Island Adventure Tours on Cypress Lake in St Cloud, south of Kissimmee). The Seminole County CVB is trying to revive the site, but don’t expect anything there for a while (perhaps not until summer 2003).

Travel City Direct (who I travelled with) – are moving their Welcome Centre to a bigger unit at the new development at the back of Lake Buena Vista Factory Stores.

The Pointe*Orlando – have opened two new nightclubs, the Matrix (for the younger crowd, maybe 18-24, and including a teen disco for 14-17s once a week) and Metropolis (for a slightly older audience, perhaps 24-30). The XS Entertainment venue (a Gameworks-type affair) has modified its restaurant to do more down to earth diner fare (but still great pizzas!). Several stores have closed, but the main ones are all still there.

The Mall at Millenia – this is the big new upscale devt just off I4 north of Universal. I did a hard-hat tour here (it opens on October 18) and it looks like being a technological marvel of a mall, including three big departments stores (Bloomingdale’s, Macy’s and Neiman-Marcus) and other designer name shops (Gucci, Hugo Boss, etc). It’s quite a space-age design inside and also features a number of good-looking restaurants.

Best Western, Lake Buena Vista – this Downtown Disney area hotel has been extensively revamped to include a new foyer area, new restaurant, bar and snack bar and fully refurbished rooms. This is easily the best-value Best Western hotel I have seen, and the views from the upper floors (there are 18 in all) are magnificent. Well worth considering if you want to be ‘inside’ the Disney atmosphere but still within a budget.

Train & Trolley Museum (on I-Drive) – have revamped their walk-through tour slightly since opening last year. Outdoor big train ride is still great for kids.

Masters of Magic (on I-Drive, where Movie Rider used to be) – this is an intriguing new show, featuring a top-notch magic show, with stunts both large-scale and up close, in slightly awkward surroundings (decent stage, but just rows of ordinary tables and chairs for the audience). It is a little bit Las Vegas, but tailored for the family audience. Shows twice a night. More details: http://www.floridaorlandotickets.net/masterinfo.htm

Orange Blossom Balloons – are back using the Days Inn on 192 (just past Splendid China after a brief enforced stint at the Ramada) and this is still one of the best rides anywhere.

Yacht Club – the Yacht Club Galley (for breakfast and lunch) is reopening later this month (June) after being closed for a while due to the downturn in business since September 11. The Yachtsman Steakhouse reverts to a dinner-only restaurant (although it makes a brilliant lunch venue, too – pure bliss!).

Pirates Adventure – this dinner show has tweaked its storyline yet again to be a bit more audience-friendly, and the full 3-hour duration makes for pretty good value for money. The first hour is spent in the pirate ‘village’ with the chance to snack on salads, pretzels and tortilla chips, buy drinks and visit the Pirate Museum (a bit hokey but mildly diverting). Then the main show lasts one-and-a-half hours (dinner is still pretty ordinary and the vegetarian option is just plain poor), and it has been enhanced with more audience participation (especially for the kids) and a more coherent story. Good, family fun, especially with the half-hour pirate bash disco at the end.

WDW – the four parks were all pretty busy on the Memorial weekend, but I was still able to get a FastPass for Millionaire at MGM quite late in the afternoon, which is a good sign. Still don’t rate the Rose & Crown at Epcot (mediocre, over-priced menu, and the most average service of the whole trip). There is a new exhibition featuring Japanese traditions and baseball in the Japan Pavilion, while Morocco has revamped its shopping village somewhat. The new Imagination ride is now up and running, and early signs are it is a big improvement on the previous version. Mission: Space ride (summer 2003, provisionally) is taking shape well and should be an absolute blockbuster. Legend of the Lion King has closed at Magic Kingdom, with Mickey’s PhilHarmagic – a new 3-D interactive film and stage show – due to replace it next year (no opening date yet). Carousel of Progress and Time-Keeper both working at busy periods only. The Primeval Whirl ride (which opened in April) is a real giggle – a bit comic-book two-dimensional in places, but with a neat queuing area and lots of spinning fun on the three-minute ride. The whole Dino-Rama area in Dinoland still looks rather garish to my eyes, though.

Kennedy Space Center – a whole new look and presentation in the Rocket Garden, plus a brand new Imax 3-D film, Space Station, which is quite brilliant. Everything feels very fresh and exciting here, although the International Space Station section of the bus tour has been closed since September 11.

Daytona and Beach area – a new restaurant find for me, the Lighthouse Restaurant right next to the Ponce De Leon Lighthouse attraction, on south Daytona Beach. The restaurant is right on the beach and is real Florida style – very relaxed, quite quaint and totally authentic. Nice atmosphere.

The Gaylord Palms – this is the massive new hotel on the junction of International Drive South and Osceola Parkway, hence in a great location (although there’s nothing else there). The internal aspect of the resort, with almost 7 acres under glass roofs, is quite stunning, with three Florida-themed areas (St Augustine, the Everglades and Key West) that are amazingly detailed. Three fab restaurants (seafood in Key West, steakhouse in Everglades, Spanish style in St Augustine), two pools (one with a fun family theme, the other more geared towards a quiet adult hangout), a piano bar, coffee/delicatessen, Godiva chocolate shop and array of other high-quality stores mark this out as a truly extraordinary hotel. It does some serious convention business at times (hence it can be quite busy, while other days can be very quiet), and the whole place is geared towards business use (high-speed internet connections, room safes that take lap-tops, etc), but the rooms are huge and beautifully furnished and the whole place has an almost-spaceship-like feel, especially at night. Well worth visiting, even if you don’t stay there.

Everett’s Old Tymes Eatery – this is a new discovery for me, but one of Kissimmee’s oldest diner-type restaurants. Easy to miss (as I have for several years!), it is an unprepossessing place on Orange Blossom Trail, just south of Osceola Parkway (on the right as you go south), but don’t let that put you off. It is a proper down-home Florida establishment, a real locals’ place, but features fabulous 24-hour breakfasts (just huge portions) for just a few dollars, plus the usual sandwiches and burgers. Good fun, friendly service.

Gatorland – the new train ride costs an extra $1 for unlimited rides but features a wise-cracking driver and a neat look at some little-seen corners of this great Florida attraction (which I rate very highly these days). The shows and the people who do them are all for real, and there is a new Trainer For A Day course here which looks good fun.

Splendid China – nothing new here, but their top-to-toe refurbishment is almost complete after several years of neglect.

Olive Garden – new on International Drive where King Henry’s Feast used to be (now completely demolished) is the largest of this restaurant chain, and with the best food of all, according to the locals. I know, it’s supposed to be the same as all the others, but people who have been there insist this is a top-notch establishment.

Cypress Glades Adventure Tours – new on Cypress Lake in St Cloud is this combination airboat ride and nature tour operation, run by the head trainer from Gatorland, who is keen to take people out into the wilds of Florida for a real look at its flora and fauna. It’s incredibly peaceful (it ought to be – it’s about half an hour off 192, 25 miles from Gatorland) and the airboat ride is excellent. They also offer kayaking, hiking and fishing, or a combination of all four in individual, tailor-made tours.

Soulfire Dinner Theater – new at Lake Buena Vista Factory Stores in July will be this latest dinner-show. It’s hard to describe fully, but their press release makes it sound like a cross between Sleuths and something more interactive. Everyone gets to play a part in the ‘stories’ and it promises to be a full-scale theatrical production. More to follow!

Orlando International Airport – are completely revamping their shopping and food and beverage operations. Many stores are closing, others are being added or comprehensively refurbished. The Shipyard Pub is closing down to make way for a new food court-style complex in the centre of the terminal.

Orlando Sanford Airport – their major extension project to add another terminal is now complete and adds considerably more space when things are busy here (although the main departure terminal is still basically the same). The Guest House facility is now up and running and is well worth considering if you have several hours to kill – for an extra $20/person ($10 for kids), you get access to an exclusive lounge, with two free alcoholic drinks, unlimited soft drinks and coffee, a pleasant café (with menu items not available in the main lounge), free video games for the kids, internet terminals (four of them), a mini cinema (showing videos like Legally Blonde and K-PAX when I was there) and a quiet reading room, plus another small play area for kids (completely separate from the other areas). See your tour rep on arrival for details and how to book.

Universal – their two new rides for next spring sound like a LOT of fun. Shrek 4-D replaces the Alfred Hitchcock attraction with a lively interactive 3-D film experience that takes up where the Oscar-winning film left off, with the ogre, Princess Fiona and the donkey going on honeymoon (!). Then Jimmy Neutron ride will be an up-to-date replacement for the Hanna-Barbera simulator ride, with state of the art special effects promised here.

SeaWorld – they have a new False Killer Whale Interaction programme, providing two hours in the company of the animal trainers at the Key West Dolphin Fest. It’s open to just four people a day ($200/persn), more details on: http://www.seaworld.com/seaworld/fla/programs/animal_falseKiller.html
Then there is the Animal Care Experience, an all-day programme which gives you an amazing insight into all the behind-the-scenes work at SeaWorld, their animal activities and rehabilitations. It starts at 6.30am and provides a memorable day’s experience, but it’s not cheap - £389/person. More details on: http://www.seaworld.com/seaworld/fla/programs/animal_care.html

Hard Rock Vault – opening (probably) in December will be this Hard Rock hall of fame on International Drive, replacing the now-closed Guinness World Record Experience. This will be a fully interactive look at the vast rock memorabilia collection of the Hard Rock group, with plenty of HR sights and sounds along the way. Expect a real audio-visual feast for all those who dig the HR style.

Grande Lakes Resort – opening in autumn 2003 will be this colossal hotel-and-golf-course project on John Young Parkway (near its Central Florida Parkway junction). It features a 554-room Ritz-Carlton hotel and a 1,000 room, upscale JW Marriott hotel, plus a huge, state-of-the-art spa and an 18-hole Greg Norman-designed golf course. It will be the most luxurious hotel complex in central Florida and feature some the most opulent and spacious rooms, fine dining, elaborate water facilities and more.

Royal Pacific Resort – just about to open (later in June) is the third of Universal’s on-site resort hotels. The final look of this hotel is far more luxurious than they intended and the rooms are quite magnificent – large and beautifully furnished. Anyone staying there this year is on to a major bargain (especially if they booked through the Virgin special offer earlier this year – rock-bottom rates), as prices will definitely be going up next year. It has a real South Seas/Balinese style and charm, with great kids facilities and a superb (and vast) freeform pool, with kids play area at one end (complete with water cannons, fountains, etc). A new Emeril’s restaurant will also open here in October. All in all, quite a startling option.

Disney’s Pop Century Resort – I have to admit this looks pretty horrible from a distance but better and better at close-up. This latest budget-price mega-resort (almost 6,000 rooms in 10 blocks spread between two main service areas) is extremely garish and two-dimensional at first look (at least the first half of the resort, which is all but finished) but is a lot more detailed and just plain fun close up. The rooms are the same basic size and function as the All Stars (i.e. nothing special) but the main service area is quite classy, with a good-looking restaurant and check-in area, while the outdoor areas feature some neat touches (like Twister boards, a giant table-football game, squirt fountains and a great main pool), too. All in all, it will be a genuine alternative to the All Stars resorts when it opens sometime in 2003 (Disney say they will open it up when the demand reaches pre-September 11 levels).

Festival Bay – Vans Skate Park is now open and the big Ron Jon’s Surf Shop will open soon, but there is still no word on when the full devt, including a shopping mall, will be up and running.

Downtown – the Thornton Park area, next to Lake Eola, continues to be a thriving area for shops and restaurants, with more opening seemingly every day. Church Street Station is now completely closed and there is no hint of what may replace it, but the Wall Street area off Orange Avenue is still buzzing in the evenings.

St Petersburg – the main city area of St Pete’s is another happening area, with the BayWalk shopping and restaurant district well worth visiting. Take in a baseball game at Tropicana Field for another slice of true Americana.

Disney’s Wide World of Sports – the NFL Experience here is due to close, but the NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers will be here for training camp in August, making for another genuine attraction during the day (and it’s free to go in and see them go through their paces).

I4 – increasingly congested, there is heavy construction on several stretches and the whole thing is just grinding to a halt at peak periods. Stick to the 417 (Central Florida Greeneway) and other roads where possible.

And that’s it for now, folks. All this – and more! – will be shoe-horned into the next edition, provided I can tear myself away from the DIS for a while to do it all……!

Simon

SpottyDog
06-04-2002, 01:03 AM
WOW !!!!, Simon. That was some update. Thanks so much for takin the time and trouble.

When's the new edition due out? A certain someone is due a new copy for Birthday/Christmas - whichever's next after the release.

Hilary
06-04-2002, 02:36 AM
Thanks for such an amazing amount of new information!

Pixie Power!
06-04-2002, 03:14 AM
Great up-date!! Thanks Simon

CarolynU
06-04-2002, 06:11 AM
Wow are you one busy guy! Funnily enough my DH and I found the restaurant in Daytona that you are talking about when we went in Feb, but didn't eat there. It looked so 'laid back' we lacked courage. Was the food good? Carolyn

SimonV
06-04-2002, 09:16 AM
New edition due November 2002 (if I pull my finger out!).

Yes, Carolyn, the food was pretty good (I had the daily fish special) but it was more the decor and style which made the place worth visiting - there are any number of amusing signs around the place which make it great fun (like 'Our waitresses can go from 0 to b***h in 1.4 seconds!' and 'If you think our voting is bad, wait til you see us drive'). Highly worthwhile!

DisneyAli
06-04-2002, 09:27 AM
thanks alot simon, brilliant update. get those writing fingers out, we leave on 5th november and would LOVE to have the new edition to read on the plane out.....:D

Fantasia Sam
06-05-2002, 01:53 AM
As usual Simon I see you've managed to cram a lot in one trip I think writing the book will you give you a hard earned rest:)

UKDEB
06-05-2002, 01:05 PM
No lazing by the pool for you then? ;) It always amazes me the amount you manage to fit in. That is unless you went for 2 months, of course.........

I am so excited about the Mall at Millenia. It's due to open whilst we're there and I keep checking the website to make sure it's still on schedule. Any thoughts, Simon? Do you think it's likely to slip, or will it open on time?

I can't wait to visit the Gaylord Palms either. Did you get to try any of the restaurants?

Hard Rock Vault sounds like it's going to be worth a visit. Ditto Grande Lakes resort. Like I needed an excuse to book a trip for 2003! :rolleyes:

Just one bone to pick - you've made me very restless over our choice of Universal hotel for our next trip. We've booked HRH 'cause we loved it so much last year, but I'm wondering whether we should take advantage of the opening offers this year and try the RPH instead. Whatever happens we shall definitely be trying Emeril's new restaurant. Again, do you think it should open on schedule?

rob@rar.org.uk
06-05-2002, 02:28 PM
I liked the sound of the Gaylord Palms, so I checked their website and found their rates are approximately the same as the Grand Floridian. Oh well, I suppose luxury doesn't come cheap!

Regards

Rob

SimonV
06-05-2002, 02:52 PM
Two months? Try 8 days :D

Deb, the Mall at Millenia is due to open October 18, and they intend to stick to that, on pain of death (of the contractor!). All the units may not be open (and I don't think Neiman-Marcus will be either), but it should still be well worth a visit.

At Gaylord Palms, we did try the Old Hickory steakhouse restaurant (unfortunately Sam's seafood restaurant in the Key West area was fully booked that evening, but it has been given an amazing write-up by the local press). The steak was very good without quite being as mega as the price suggested ($34 for the aged house special, without vegetables), but they also do an artesanal cheese course which is just sensational. Desserts were pretty good, too, and the whole setting is just splendid.

Re RPR, if you can change, I think I would to experience this resort at below-average prices. The Emeril's restaurant is scheduled to open 'in October' only, and I'm sure they won't open it unless it is absolutely ready, so you may be taking pot-luck on this, but it is shaping up as a superb resort at least on a par with the HRH (but don't forget to go back there for dinner at The Palm restaurant!).

Simon.

Tony Bush
06-06-2002, 03:29 PM
Simon,

You always seem so over-worked. If you need an assistant to pop over to Orlando at any time - let me know!! (expenses paid obviously!!!!!)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Mrs Dazzle
06-06-2002, 04:53 PM
Thanks for all the info, Simon.

I'm with Deb - we've just booked HRH for couple of nights in October so am now wondering whether to change . . . decisions, decisions!!

Here's to your next trip:p

CR1SSY
06-07-2002, 02:23 PM
hi Simon- some great info there.
You said you went with Travel City. We are flying with them for the second time in July.
Did you fly on one of the 747s that they've just started using? We've been told that this is what we are booked on & wondered what the service is like( Sunshine Cabin I think thay call it)

SimonV
06-07-2002, 05:11 PM
No, CR1SSY, the 747 service doesn't start until the end of this month. But it looks like being a real winner, though.

tracymiami
06-12-2002, 03:45 PM
Just wanted to say thanks so much for all the info and all the personal advice you have given me and pointing me to the direction of these wicked boards :-D

Can't wait for the book and even more excited about getting my trip booked.

Take care

T:p :p

Silver
06-17-2002, 07:44 AM
Thanks for all the info Simon, can't wait for another book to add to my collection

:)

WDWfan,uk
06-17-2002, 09:41 AM
I really wanted to visit the Gaylord Palms but we ran out of time - I'm sure if we'd hired a car we would have visited.

So pleased to hear Universal Studios are getting a couple of new attractions...... much needed.

UKDEB
06-17-2002, 02:00 PM
Simon,

Any thoughts this trip on crowds/strategy post EE suspension? Avoiding EE days has always worked like a dream for us and I'm having trouble sketching out our itinerary for October.

SimonV
06-17-2002, 05:00 PM
Hi Deb, that's currently taxing all my resources at the moment, and it's hard to provide a definitive answer. My current info is that the quietest days to visit the parks are Saturday for DAK, Monday for Epcot, Tuesday for MGM and Wednesday for MK. But this is subject to an awful lot of variables this summer, when the main crowds are sure to arrive. I hope to have a better picture by August.

neilybealy
06-18-2002, 03:52 AM
thanks for a detailed update :)

we go on 21 sept and are getting very excited already

UKDEB
06-18-2002, 01:28 PM
Thanks, Simon. I guess it must be causing you major re-write headaches for the next guide. I'll be interested to hear what you've got to say in August, particularly as the latest edition won't be published until after our trip! :(

Dimplenose
06-19-2002, 02:16 PM
Is I4 a problem between WDW and Universal Studios - should we find a different route? We went via International Drive in '98 and it took forever, I was going to go I4 this time.

Libby

MalcolmC
06-19-2002, 05:08 PM
I'd stick with I4 if I were you!

It may get a bit congested but it keeps on moving, albeit slowly. I Drive just grinds to a halt. Several times I've turned around or gone down side roads just to go somewhere, anywhere away from bumper to bumper traffic.!

SimonV
06-20-2002, 10:26 AM
Dimplenose, it depends what time you're travelling. That section can get very congested at the moment in the morning rush hour, and is often fairly slow in the afternoon.

Janice
06-21-2002, 03:28 PM
Wow Simon - I got out of breath just reading and I admire your stamina to fit all that into 8 days, especially with the heat we were experiencing.

Terrific info and just so many reasons to go back......dont ya think? ;)

kazzie
07-07-2002, 05:49 AM
Simon,,

Some great info there.
I laughed at MCO revamping their restaurants,I thought the only one was Burger King?!

I've always thought what a massive opportunity they were missing at MCO shop wise.If they had a sort of Ron Jon's type shop selling clothes I think how much more money my teens would want to spend at the airport if they had more chioce than just Disney shops.

SimonV
07-08-2002, 03:03 PM
Hi there Kazzie. The one real 'casualty' from my pespective of the great revamp will be the loss of the Shipyard Brewport bar and restaurant, which offered genuinely decent beer (brewed there with imported British hops!). Instead, there will now be a big new food court in that central area with a massive McDonald's (ugh - as if we need another one!) as the centrepiece. I think the Chili's Too bar/grill is also due to go, but the Starbuck's will stay. The good news is that they are looking at a complete new range of shops and the fact that there is a (small) Ron Jon's at Orlando-Sanford Airport now might suggest they will look at one here too.

Simon

Claire Chatts
07-25-2002, 06:59 AM
Fantastic Update! Have just finished reading the book (page for page!). Booked to go to Radisson Orlando in Sept but now fancy changing booking to the new Universal hotel, does anyone know if this can be doen with just an admin charge?

SimonV
07-25-2002, 08:21 AM
Claire, it will really depend who you booked with, both in terms of the agent and the operator. If you have booked independently, i.e. directly with the hotel, you shouldn't have a problem. If you have booked with a travel agent, you should check with them first. Either way, both hotels are very good, but I think you will find the new Royal Pacific is a bit special, particularly in its early months.

DisneyAli
07-25-2002, 08:32 AM
if you have booked with virgin, there is a £20.00 per person admin charge, we upgraded from the days inn maingate west to the fourpoints sheraton lakeside. didnt like the write up reviews about the days inn and as we are there for 3 weeks we thought it was worth the extra.

Claire Chatts
07-26-2002, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the info, we changed it this morning which was the last possible day as we pay it Saturday!!!

We've booked with Virgin and they didn't charge the admin fee as we are paying more. It's quite a bit more actually but the pool looks amazing, we'll save money on the Universal tickets and also on transport as we intend on spending quite a bit of time in Citiwalk.

The fact that we get priority queing helped change our minds too as I like all the big rides but there 's no way I'll get my husband on some of them (the virtical drop for example!!) so he won't have to wait as long for me.

Thanks again guys,

Claire

PoohBears#1fan
07-26-2002, 04:39 PM
"Still don’t rate the Rose & Crown at Epcot (mediocre, over-priced menu, and the most average service of the whole trip"

So they're portraying English service quite well then ;)


I've ust found this site in the last couple of days as we're considering a DVC purchase, reading your update was really useful and has made me even more desperate to get back there, will definately be buying your book.

Beejayjay
07-31-2002, 03:29 AM
Terrific amount of useful info there Simon ! Especially like the sound of the Millenia Mall being a big time shopper !

I'm interested in TravelCity, sounds like they could potentially save me a lot of money on my next trip. One thing I was particularly wondering is which airline they use. I always fly Virgin when I go to the States and am wondering whether, if they dont use Virgin among their usual airlines, a surcharge can be paid to fly with them.

If anyone can tell me their experience of dealing with TravelCity, I'd appreciate that too.

Thanks ! :teeth:

:jester:

Olaf
10-17-2002, 09:29 AM
Wow Simon, when do you sleep! Impressive.

I second your recommendation of the new IMAX-3D film at the Kennedy Space Center. I find rockets and such rather boring, but I really liked this one.

Must be nice to be able to write off your trips as business. Do they allow you guys to do that over there. Pretty cool if you can.

Julia Ann
10-18-2002, 08:21 AM
Have just bought Brit Guide 2002 - next trip 24 August 2003 (couldn't wait for 2003 guide, too excited!!!!) Have previously bought Unofficial guide to Disney (Schneider?) which has been great for theme park strategy but geared more to the USA folk, and just theme parks. Your guide is great and especially for those who have been before and want to do a bit more than the parks (have been 1995 and 2001).
The driving section is especially helpful - should have read this the first time we went!!

Thank for update.
Julia
:)

SimonV
10-18-2002, 11:46 AM
You're welcome, Julia. Have a great trip next year - although I think you will have a fair bit of time to plan everything several times!