New DIS Board policy in effect

[DisneyKevin]

While I realize this has very little impact on the particular forum, we have been asked to post something letting everyone know that there is a new policy in effect for every area of the DIS Boards.

Discussions of politics and religion are no longer allowed anywhere on the DIS.

This does not mean that you can not ask for prayers or pixie dust, It doesnt mean that you can not wish someone Merry Christmas.

It means that political and religious discussion / debates are not allowed.

If anyone is interested the new policy is located here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

As I said earlier...this has VERY little bearing on this forum, but we were asked to let everyone know.

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.

[Joseph Carter]

Good Policy!:thumbsup2

[dizneedoll]

That's good. Those pol 'bates on the community board were brutal! Not as brutal as pie vs. cake though. Brownies kick pies butt everytime but cake trumps brownies. Everybody knows that.

[M&M's]

This rule should be followed in ALL social forums for the most part. It's been proven time and time again that while a lot of people can maintain civility in such discussions, there are always a chosen few that cannot behave appropriately.

Although I mostly lurk, on this particular section of the boards, I am proud to see that the inhabitants are very civil in all discussions, and people can get there food preferences across with little chance of a rebellious uprising.

However, I must say that brownies trump all! You don't need a utensil to eat it, so it wins! If any of you disagree with this rock solid assessment, you just don't know what you are talking about. ;)

[dizneedoll]

I just ate a piece of cake and I did not use a utensil thus proving that one does not need utensils to eat cake either. Cake still wins. ;-)

[Joseph Carter]

Where is the humble "Cookie" in this argument?

[SamSam]

Pie rules!

[rtobe]

Where is the humble "Cookie" in this argument?

Only if said cookie is chocolate chip :) without nuts

[WaltD4Me]

That's too bad. I very rarely participated, but sometimes those threads could really be pretty interesting....in a good way, not when they broke out into wars. It's a shame people can't debate civilly.

That aside...... Go PIE!!!!!!!! :banana:

[Joseph Carter]

Only if said cookie is chocolate chip :) without nuts

Of course. Im allergic to nuts anyway. White chocolate chip or Milk chocolate?

How off topic can I get?

[Iggipolka]

How about cobblers? I could go for a nice warm cherry cobbler topped with ice cream.

Oh..and I'm happy about the new policy.

Now, pass the whip cream!

[ScubaD]

I know I should be conservative on the size of my pie, so why am I so liberal when I cut a slice. Pumpkin pie with whipped cream is always in season.:thumbsup2

By the way, this is a good policy.

[WebmasterJohn]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>

[elemusing]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>


JOHN!!! THAT was FUNNY! :rotfl2:

By the way - I really love BROWNIE PIE with a side of CAKE! SO THERE!

[Halbleib1]

I know I should be conservative on the size of my pie, so why am I so liberal when I cut a slice. Pumpkin pie with whipped cream is always in season.:thumbsup2

By the way, this is a good policy.

For the most part I have always tried to avoid controversy on these boards. Esp. on those two topics as there is no right or wrong answer. Everyone has an opinion as is there right (although at times I like a lot of others have felt the need to speak up). However I do not agree with this policy. It is censorship any way you cut it.(And I have heard many times people defending this by saying it is a private owned board and they can do what they want. This is just an excuse to avoid the issue. Also when you start asking people and companies for sponsorship you are giving up that right.) Where does it end. I understand these boards are supposed to be all about Disney so if they want to keep it about Disney why are there all those other boards that have nothing to do with Disney. If you want to avoid the majority of controversy than stick to the topic of the boards which is disney and cut out all the off topic stuff not just politics and religion. As they said there are other forums to discuss these topics. And if they are going to cut these topics out on the boards does that also apply to the podcast? And how are they going to enforce politics/religion when often times politics/religion comes in when discussing disneys business decisions?

[DWFan4Life]

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.

That is more interesting for me. :lmao: Anyway, thanks for the info Kevin, that's good.:thumbsup2

Have a nice day everyone. :)

[krissy2803]

Yea..cake...wait...pie...uummm cookies. I'm confused. :rotfl:
Oh look! Brownies!

[CelticBelle]

i vote cake! Whos ever had a deliciously frosted birthday Pie...or Wedding pie!:confused3

Cake wins! no contest!:cake:

[dpic]

Okay, a brownie, a pie, and a duck walked into a bar...

[Mickey_Man]

Only if said cookie is chocolate chip :) without nuts

Are there other kinds?? :confused3

[Kimberle]

Pie vs cake??? Oh, my, how ever can I choose:confused3

(I'm so happy for the new policy. The Comm brd has gotten so "ugly". Threads that started out perfectly "innocent" would get so sour.....)

[Tissa]

Great policy, it's the easiest way for a fight to break out, well next to resort mugs and pool hopping.

I voted for cake.

[Cruz Family]

Amen to that brother.....oops!!! :confused3

[disneydan864]

Id Go with Pie

As for the rest i think its a joke,but thats just me

Have a Great XMAS OPPS

[simonkodousek]

I'm in the mood for brownies with hot chocolate. :)

[wishspirit]

After a topic on Ellen's Universe of Energy became a religious debate I can understand where this new rule comes from! Its very hard for the mods to draw a line, this makes it much easier blanket rule. I for one don't mind not discussing religion or politics, it might make it easier to head on over to the community board now!

I'm gonna add strudel into the fray of puddings and deserts!

[DisneyDayTripper]

What about those big cookie cakes? DW made one a month or so ago and it was fantastic. Also the ice cream cakes from Dairy Queen...

[saturday97]

Thanks for the update.

I always thought it was interesting that people would want to use a Disney forum/community as a place to talk about so many different topics. Ostensibly, we all meet here to talk about Disney and exchange travel tips, but it has become so much more. It really is amazing that Disney serves as such a connecting thread for so many folks.

Thanks for your continued efforts to make this a fun and friendly place for us to meet.

[IWISHFORDISNEY]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>

OK just spit my coffee out. :rotfl:

Finally is all I have to say. :goodvibes

Oh BTW I go with the green party. Bread Pudding Rules

[Madi100]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>


I knew I liked you for a reason. All these crazy people that vote for cake are just plain crazy. And, I don't think it's possible to break rules when you are discussing pie.

[DVCsince02]

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.

Cuz we all know :cake: is the winner.:thumbsup2

[mommyceratops]

What kind of cake? I had an awesome huge carrot cake the other day that was to die for...If I die I want that again!!

But then again there is nothing better than a warm brownie with some ice cream?? Hmmmmm....

Sorry what else did you say Kevin?

[jcb]

I don't suppose the new policy could be extended to "D23" could it? :rolleyes:

[DisneyKevin]

For the most part I have always tried to avoid controversy on these boards. Esp. on those two topics as there is no right or wrong answer. Everyone has an opinion as is there right (although at times I like a lot of others have felt the need to speak up). However I do not agree with this policy. It is censorship any way you cut it.(And I have heard many times people defending this by saying it is a private owned board and they can do what they want. This is just an excuse to avoid the issue. Also when you start asking people and companies for sponsorship you are giving up that right.) Where does it end. I understand these boards are supposed to be all about Disney so if they want to keep it about Disney why are there all those other boards that have nothing to do with Disney. If you want to avoid the majority of controversy than stick to the topic of the boards which is disney and cut out all the off topic stuff not just politics and religion. As they said there are other forums to discuss these topics. And if they are going to cut these topics out on the boards does that also apply to the podcast? And how are they going to enforce politics/religion when often times politics/religion comes in when discussing disneys business decisions?


I'm not sure the censorship thing applies in this situation.

You are free to disagree with anything said on this forum or any other forum and as long as you follow guidelines, no one will discourage you.

You are also free to pour your heart, soul and fortune into starting any website that you wish to start. This website can contain anything you want it to contain. You might decide to be the only voice on your website and not let there be any dissenting opinion, Again...this isnt censorship or taking away someones free speech. You are free to say whatever you want on YOUR website.

A similar example would be a newspaper. You may vehemently disagree with something written in a newspaper, That doesnt mean that the newspaper has any obligation to print your disagreement and again, this isnt censorship. You are free to start your own newspaper.

The sponsors of this website are all related to Disney travel (except for the Google ads). I'm fairly certain that none of them agreed to advertise on these forums because of the political or religious debates. As I'm sure you know...there are no religions or political parties paying to advertise on this site.

As for the podcast...again....you have been given a forum to talk about what is said on the podcast. You are invited to come here free of charge and express your opinion, whether you agree or disagree, as long as you do it within the guidelines of of this webiste. If you feel the need or desire to saythings outside of the guidelines of this website, you are free to start your own. This is the very nature of free speech and the lack of censorship.

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

[maroo]

I have a few questions...

1. Does this apply to PM's?

2. Does this mean we can not type out a prayer on a thread for a child that is sick?

I don't know of any occasion where a debate has been started on any thread that I have participated in...but I want to make sure I am not breaking the rules.

[DLBDS]

Sounds like a great policy to me, Kevin. ;)

[DisneyKevin]

The policy is not looking to discourage prayers, pixie dust, holiday wishes etc.

The policy is to discourage "my religion is better than your religion and as such...you will rot in a very warm place" or "if you believe such and such...you are an idiot".

It is also to dsicourage "the <insert approrpriate political affiliation> is to blame for everything from global warming to pool hopping".

As for PMs....you are free to PM what you like...as long as the recipient is not offended or attacked.

An example....you can PM prayers etc. You can not PM "you are an idiot because...."



I have a few questions...

1. Does this apply to PM's?

2. Does this mean we can not type out a prayer on a thread for a child that is sick?

I don't know of any occasion where a debate has been started on any thread that I have participated in...but I want to make sure I am not breaking the rules.

[LudwigVB]

Take it from someone who is not afraid to talk about religion or politics and who does not mind disagreeing over or debating the issues, I think this is a necessary and even good policy for these boards. Religion and politics are topics that shape our lives. They deal with personal, and sometimes (but not always) private decisions, and it is very difficult, perhaps even impossible, to show each other the proper respect we all deserve through the medium of an internet discussion forum.

Instead of complaining about censorship, I think the appropriate approach to the policy is to be grateful for everyone at the DIS for making this community possible. Here's a thought: If Disney ever created a forum as part of D23, does anyone actually think they will allow just any discussion to take place? If Disney, a private company, can take measures to control the good of their product, then why should the DIS not be allowed the same concern?

[DVCsince02]

So a PM saying my cake is better than your cake is good? ;)

[maroo]

The policy is not looking to discourage prayers, pixie dust, holiday wishes etc.

The policy is to discourage "my religion is better than your religion and as such...you will rot in a very warm place" or "if you believe such and such...you are an idiot".

It is also to dsicourage "the <insert approrpriate political affiliation> is to blame for everything from global warming to pool hopping".

As for PMs....you are free to PM what you like...as long as the recipient is not offended or attacked.

An example....you can PM prayers etc. You can not PM "you are an idiot because...."

Thank you for answering! :goodvibes

I was getting a little concerned over here. :) We don't have any of those discussions, so our threads should be good! Thank you for letting us know!! :thumbsup2

It is also to dsicourage "the <insert approrpriate political affiliation> is to blame for everything from global warming to pool hopping".


And that was just FUNNY! :rotfl: :rotfl2: :lmao:

[CDolacki2003]

I am going to remain impartial. I like cake, pie and cookies:lmao:

[SFBayDon]

Good luck with the new policy changes, I'm sure it will be a challenge for a few days.

Pie always pie!!!!!!

[crazydisneyman]

How a rice cake covered with fat free chocolate?

[aspen37]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


After a topic on Ellen's Universe of Energy became a religious debate I can understand where this new rule comes from! Its very hard for the mods to draw a line, this makes it much easier blanket rule. I for one don't mind not discussing religion or politics, it might make it easier to head on over to the community board now!

I'm gonna add strudel into the fray of puddings and deserts![/QUOTE]

Mmmm! Strudel sounds good.:lovestruc

[QUOTE=DisneyDayTripper;30950104]What about those big cookie cakes? DW made one a month or so ago and it was fantastic. Also the ice cream cakes from Dairy Queen...
:banana::banana::banana: I vote for ice cream cake.:thumbsup2


I'm not sure the censorship thing applies in this situation.

You are free to disagree with anything said on this forum or any other forum and as long as you follow guidelines, no one will discourage you.

You are also free to pour your heart, soul and fortune into starting any website that you wish to start. This website can contain anything you want it to contain. You might decide to be the only voice on your website and not let there be any dissenting opinion, Again...this isnt censorship or taking away someones free speech. You are free to say whatever you want on YOUR website.

A similar example would be a newspaper. You may vehemently disagree with something written in a newspaper, That doesnt mean that the newspaper has any obligation to print your disagreement and again, this isnt censorship. You are free to start your own newspaper.

The sponsors of this website are all related to Disney travel (except for the Google ads). I'm fairly certain that none of them agreed to advertise on these forums because of the political or religious debates. As I'm sure you know...there are no religions or political parties paying to advertise on this site.

As for the podcast...again....you have been given a forum to talk about what is said on the podcast. You are invited to come here free of charge and express your opinion, whether you agree or disagree, as long as you do it within the guidelines of of this webiste. If you feel the need or desire to saythings outside of the guidelines of this website, you are free to start your own. This is the very nature of free speech and the lack of censorship.

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

Well said, Kevin!:goodvibes

How a rice cake covered with fat free chocolate?

Yuck!!!:eek:

[ms*mountaineer]

How a rice cake covered with fat free chocolate?

:crazy2:

You are free to eat such a thing - but don't slander the good name of "CAKE"!

[ericafny]

OK that's it...I'm making brownies tonite...who wants some??? :yay:

[robertgp124]

I was doing so well... a nice leafy salad for lunch... then 3 pages of cake, cookies, and pie.

I hope I didn't hurt the snack machine when I visited it a few moments ago.

Good idea on the rules, btw.

[kab407]

OK that's it...I'm making brownies tonite...who wants some??? :yay:

What time will they be ready Erica???

[Kaler131]

I am going to remain impartial. I like cake, pie and cookies:lmao:

Me too!!!:cool1:

BTW, I noticed that your location is Lorain, Ohio....I grew up there! (I live down in Columbus, Ohio now) You are the first person that I have seen on here from Lorain!!:goodvibes:goodvibes

[crazytp93]

I'm iffy on the policy.
But you know something is wrong when me and my friends over on the Teen Board can have a more civilized debate than the people on the CB.

[angelmav]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

[Matt@WDWR]

While I am impressed with your cut and paste capabilities (j/k), the website is a privately owned company and does not have to allow any speech it doesn't want to. The Disboards is a byproduct of a company and many things that come up in those "debates" could hurt a business. Frankly, the community board got so bad, I wouldn't go into it.

When I discuss politics, I go to news sites. I don't get mad that CNN doesn't have a place for me to discuss Disney. lol

[Matt@WDWR]

Things that will put you on my list:

1) You like pie more than cake.
2) You like crunchy peanut butter more than creamy

I shall add more to the list. :)

[Matt@WDWR]

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[angelmav]

While I am impressed with your cut and paste capabilities (j/k), the website is a privately owned company and does not have to allow any speech it doesn't want to. The Disboards is a byproduct of a company and many things that come up in those "debates" could hurt a business. Frankly, the community board got so bad, I wouldn't go into it.

When I discuss politics, I go to news sites. I don't get mad that CNN doesn't have a place for me to discuss Disney. lol

Matt, then i expect that the board will be by invite only and the use of forums to discuss non-disney things will be eliminated. Your free to have your opinion, as long as you express it under these new guidelines. No need to attack me for posting the thoughts on the subject from what are considered some of the mot important opinions on the subject. How Community Board of you.

[DisneyKevin]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

You had the fredom to post this

If I can extrapolate what you are saying here is, that the New York Times is obligated to give a column to voice your opinion? Motor Tend? Mother Earth News? CNN?

No private enterprise is obligated to give you a forum in which to espouse your opinion on any give subject. That is their freedom.

This is not public property. This is a privately owned and operated site

You are allowed to post here using the guidlines set forth. Should you wish to excercise your freedom of speech regarding a topic deemed unfit for this privately owned forum, you are free to start your own website and post whatever you deem appropriate

[Matt@WDWR]

Matt, then i expect that the board will be by invite only and the use of forums to discuss non-disney things will be eliminated. Your free to have your opinion, as long as you express it under these new guidelines. No need to attack me for posting the thoughts on the subject from what are considered some of the mot important opinions on the subject. How Community Board of you.

IF you consider that an attack, I might suggest never going into the community boards. At the absolute worst, my first line was the only thing remotely sarcastic but I put the "J/K" to show you I was joking. Your response though sorta misses the point. They can eliminate whatever they want to. If you don't like it sorry. If I don't like some things (and that has happened) it is not up to me.

I can't go in your house and say what I want. As soon as I have ticked you off, I am pretty sure you will ask me to leave. It works that way for forums as well.

[DisneyKevin]

Matt, then i expect that the board will be by invite only and the use of forums to discuss non-disney things will be eliminated. Your free to have your opinion, as long as you express it under these new guidelines. No need to attack me for posting the thoughts on the subject from what are considered some of the mot important opinions on the subject. How Community Board of you.

All of the DIS Boards is by "invitation only" already. The owner has invited you to participate.

[wishspirit]

The policy is not looking to discourage prayers, pixie dust, holiday wishes etc.

The policy is to discourage "my religion is better than your religion and as such...you will rot in a very warm place" or "if you believe such and such...you are an idiot".

It is amazing, but I have heard that (minus the such and such and replaced with another mainstream argument) exactly on the Theme Parks Board! That's why I love the podcast board so much, that very rarely happens (except maybe over D23 or Pie v. Cake)

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Mmmm! Strudel sounds good.:lovestruc

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:banana::banana::banana: I vote for ice cream cake.:thumbsup2


Is it bad I have eaten a massive apple strudel in the last 24 hours, and waffles too!

[TXYankee]

All of the DIS Boards is by "invitation only" already. The owner has invited you to participate.

Yep!

I have been invited to participate. That makes me one of the "Cool Kids"!!
Thanks Pete!:banana:

[Cruz Family]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain


Are you kidding me???? :sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2:

Thank you Rev. Sharpton for today's lesson in DIS civil rights!

[WebmasterPete]

"Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." - Charles Bradlaugh

"Debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust and wide-open and that...may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials." - William Brennan, New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964)

"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage." - Winston Churchill


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

"One man's vulgarity is another's lyric." - John Marshall Harlan, Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971)


"Civil government cannot let any group ride roughshod over others simply because their consciences tell them to do so." - Robert H. Jackson

"Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance." - Lyndon Baines Johnson, February 11, 1964

"It is impossible for ideas to compete in the marketplace if no forum for their presentation is provided or available." - Thomas Mann


"Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." - Wiliam O. Douglas, The One Un-American Act, A Speech to the Author's Guild Council in New York (1951)

"Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and always be the last resort of the **** and the bigot." - Eugene O'Neill

"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist." - Salman Rushdie

"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime..." - Potter Stewart, Ginzberg v. United States, 383 U.S. 463 (1966)

"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Mark Twain

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

[Matt@WDWR]

I believe in the trades, they call that last post being "Petewernered" LOL


you hit the nail on the head!

[angelmav]

Are you kidding me???? :sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2::sad2:

Thank you Rev. Sharpton for today's lesson in DIS civil rights!

Why must you interject religion into this discusion? :confused3

Hey the Dis can do whatever it likes.

The fact that so many were ready to sign on and begin the discussion of Cakes vs Pie's while their ability to believe in either cake or pie and express so freely has been curtailed here is an argument that apparently no one has the stomach for any longer.

I just think that it speaks poorly on the dis to do this, but thats my opinion, thank you Kevin for the forum provided to express it.

While I want to clarify that it is not my belief, but strong opinion, I prefer Pie. Cherry. Tart cherry.

[Cruz Family]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Way to go Pete!!! :worship:

[Bornteach]

I vote for pie.....it's like a religious experience for me.

<oh shoot - I just broke both new rules>

:lmao::lmao::lmao:


OMG my sides hurt!!

How does that old saying go? I don't drink, don't smoke and don't swear...

****, I left my cigs at the bar!

[QuirkyButterfly]

Thanks for the new policy, I am all for it.

By the way... Mmmmmmm Pie.

[angelmav]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete


Actually I rarely participated in either here. There are 'other' more appropriate forums for that. If you think the CB gets crazed, you should see what is posted there!

My point is not that there is any protected right to pop off on whatever topic someone so chooses to here, but that this limitation as is now imposed, is a sad step for the dis. Obviously I am not in the inner circle to see how bad that it may have been. Just a sad, sad step, one that you feel appropriate which is your right.

It does however lighten my heart and give me a newfound hope to see that we have Pie as a common ground. May this be a bridge to many future cakeless desserts.

[FireDancer]

Pete, I fully support your decision in this matter. There are boards that got nasty on all sides of both topics.

[safetymom]

Yum, yum key lime pie.

[*NikkiBell*]

So, I am working late tonight and just read this entire post. I only have one thing to say...

Schoolbread is oh so much better than any cookie or pie you may banter over. However, black forest cake is the ultimate and beats any cake, cookie, pie, or schoolbread anyday. ;)

[maroo]

Ok...

You guys are SOOOOOOO confused!!!!!

It's CHOCOLATE! It has to be chocolate! Pie, Cake, brownies...all good...but it has to be CHOCOLATE!

:rotfl::lmao::rotfl2:

[*NikkiBell*]

But what KIND of chocolate? Godiva is my personal favorite and I personally feel that it is its own "religious experience" as John would say.

[maroo]

Well...Godiva would definitely work!! :)

I also like chocolate - even plain Hershey's - when it is mixed with peanut butter or caramel! YUM!!!!

All of this talk is making me HUNGRY!

*runs to find CHOCOLATE!!!*

[Yvet]

Pete and the rest but most of all Pete,

I'm so sorry.
I feel ashamed i experience substitutional shame....

Here you are working your b*t off for a board, a community and this crap is what you get back.

How bad can we be if we just can't accept a rule that has been made to protect one and another for being name called.

It's your website, your forum and you can do whatever you want to do with it. You can make up any rule you want.
And we have to accept this.
When we don't accept it, then we have to leave this forum and just go play somewhere else.
Take it or leave it.

[TheBeadPirate]

Looks like the minor changes are going through smoothly hardly any chit-chat on the boards at all:rotfl2

I have to throw my support behind Pie... as well as Pete and the gang...

It is a private board (and I have come to meet some great folks as a result of the interactions on this site)... I really cannot recall being assulted (other than by Mindy when at DATW)... but then again I avoid the topics of religion and politics at all costs..

IMHO 99% of the people on these boards would have a similar positive comment... I appreciate the site, the opportunities for prizies, events, etc., thanks for the information that has saved me countless dollars and made for much more positive experiences while in the parks...

The team probably pulled some long hours this weekend with the update and might be a little more sensitive to the slings and arrows than normal..

At the end of the day I am here because I follow the minimal rules (that Pete and company have designed), I try and contribute to the community, and value the info and friendships developed...

What would our buddy Bawb think about this flap????

Thanks for the investment and effort in the board and allowing us to be a part...

This one's from Rick:thumbsup2

[cocowum]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Oh snap! That just happened... http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/werd.gif


:teeth:
I believe in the trades, they call that last post being "Petewernered" LOL


you hit the nail on the head!

Being "Petewernered" Love it! :thumbsup2

[dpuck1998]

While I realize this has very little impact on the particular forum, we have been asked to post something letting everyone know that there is a new policy in effect for every area of the DIS Boards.

Discussions of politics and religion are no longer allowed anywhere on the DIS.

This does not mean that you can not ask for prayers or pixie dust, It doesnt mean that you can not wish someone Merry Christmas.

It means that political and religious discussion / debates are not allowed.

If anyone is interested the new policy is located here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

As I said earlier...this has VERY little bearing on this forum, but we were asked to let everyone know.

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.


What about angel food vs. devils food cake?

[Cyrano]

Now now folks it is time to get serious :)

Why must the talk be of cake or pie :confused3 Rather than puddings let us talk cheese... cheddar or camembert. I say camembert :)

[mmexpress]

discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge.
Pete

By means of member donations and site sponsers which would not be here without the large member base.

[Launchpad11B]

By means of member donations and site sponsers which would not be here without the large member base.

This isn't a free for all. These are Pete's boards and he dictates the content. This isn't complicated. Go elsewhere for political and religious discussion.

[dpuck1998]

This isn't a free for all. These are Pete's boards and he dictates the content. This isn't complicated. Go elsewhere for political and religious discussion.

The pinky has spoken....

[scarlett873]

The pinky has spoken....:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotf l:

[mmexpress]

This isn't a free for all. These are Pete's boards and he dictates the content. This isn't complicated. Go elsewhere for political and religious discussion.

I didn't see anything in my post about politics or religion and I personally care less about both subjects.

how you came to your conclusion baffles me.

[jcb]

Can I just add two points, neither of which (I think) has been mentioned.

First, "censorship" is about restricting viewpoints or ideas. Saying "don't discuss religion and politics on the DIS" simply isn't censorship even if the DIS were the government, which as Pete sweetly pointed out, it ain't. I'm disappointed too, but because "we" can't seem to talk about these two subjects without mounting personal attacks.

Second, fudge beats all, brownies (including the edge) cake, or pie but especially "cheese cake." I mean chocolate fudge of course. Otherwise, chocolate anything beats non-chocolate (anything), hands down.

[Allison]

By means of member donations and site sponsers which would not be here without the large member base.

What is your point with this statement? Are you implying the member base won't be here without politics and religion discussions?

[dpuck1998]

Can I just add two points, neither of which (I think) has been mentioned.

First, "sensorship" is about restricting viewpoints or ideas. Saying "don't discuss religion and politics on the DIS" simply isn't sensorship even if the DIS were the government, which as Pete sweetly pointed out, it ain't. I'm disappointed too, but because "we" can't seem to talk about these two subjects without mounting personal attacks.

Second, fudge beats all, brownies (including the edge) cake, or pie but especially "cheese cake." I mean chocolate fudge of course. Otherwise, chocolate anything beats non-chocolate (anything), hands down.

For those who don't use it, Firefox has a built in spell checker for bad spellers like me. It really is much better than IE. Just say'en ;)

[WaltD4Me]

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

Thank You.

I can't STAND when people throw out the "free speech" argument over something like this. Pete is not the goverment and therefore isn't guaranteeing any of us anything. Nor is he legally obligated to.

Free speech as referred to in the constitution basically boils down to that you can't be arrested for something that you say. That's it. It does not mean that you can say anything you want and because of the constitution, that you won't suffer any consequences whatsoever from anyone.

[jcb]

For those who don't use it, Firefox has a built in spell checker for bad spellers like me. It really is much better than IE. Just say'en ;)

Using Firefox is like eating cheesecake. OK at first but you ultimately feel cheated. Honestly, I really liked the interface (and the spell-checker) but when I used it to check blogs, it ground to a halt on startup.

[lttlmc3]

popcorn::

[aspen37]

Pete and the rest but most of all Pete,

I'm so sorry.
I feel ashamed i experience substitutional shame....

Here you are working your b*t off for a board, a community and this crap is what you get back.

How bad can we be if we just can't accept a rule that has been made to protect one and another for being name called.

It's your website, your forum and you can do whatever you want to do with it. You can make up any rule you want.
And we have to accept this.
When we don't accept it, then we have to leave this forum and just go play somewhere else.
Take it or leave it.

Very well said.:goodvibes

You know what cracks me up? People who espouse the first amendment who CLEARLY have never read it. For your information:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW - the first amendment protects you from the government passing a law prohibiting you from freely expressing yourself. BY NO MEANS does it require that I - at my own time and expense - provide YOU a forum to say whatever you want. I am well within my LEGAL AND MORAL rights to determine what kind of content I want on the discussion forums that I OWN, I MAINTAIN AND I PAY FOR and provide to you completely free of charge. One would assume that this would be obvious, but one would also need to predicate that assumption on the fact that you have even a basic understanding of the law or the constitution. Clearly you don't.

If you feel the need to discuss religion or politics there are any number of other forums on the web where you are free to do so - this is no longer one of them.

Pete

:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2

I believe in the trades, they call that last post being "Petewernered" LOL


you hit the nail on the head!

Oh that's awesome Matt! :rotfl::rotfl:

Why must you interject religion into this discusion? :confused3

Hey the Dis can do whatever it likes.

The fact that so many were ready to sign on and begin the discussion of Cakes vs Pie's while their ability to believe in either cake or pie and express so freely has been curtailed here is an argument that apparently no one has the stomach for any longer.

I just think that it speaks poorly on the dis to do this, but thats my opinion, thank you Kevin for the forum provided to express it.

While I want to clarify that it is not my belief, but strong opinion, I prefer Pie. Cherry. Tart cherry.

Exactly! :)

By means of member donations and site sponsers which would not be here without the large member base.

You don't have to donate a penny to be on these boards.

[Launchpad11B]

I didn't see anything in my post about politics or religion and I personally care less about both subjects.

how you came to your conclusion baffles me.

The topic of this thread, which you decided to post on, is the new policy of no politics or religion on the Dis boards. Apparently you being baffled must happen quite often.

[dpuck1998]

Using Firefox is like eating cheesecake. OK at first but you ultimately feel cheated. Honestly, I really liked the interface (and the spell-checker) but when I used it to check blogs, it ground to a halt on startup.

I spend a LOT of time on the web and have never had any problems. Certain older sites that are written in programs like Frontpage and other legacy MS editors might be an issue, but 99 percent of the time it works great. The 1 percent of sites i figure aren't worth reading if they can't get their act together :)

[dpuck1998]

The topic of this thread, which you decided to post on, is the new policy of no politics or religion on the Dis boards. Apparently you being baffled must happen quite often.

Where are you heading this time Paul? Packing again I hear...

[CelticBelle]

However, black forest cake is the ultimate and beats any cake, cookie, pie, or schoolbread anyday. ;)

I believe that Black Forest cake falls into the CAKE category! :teacher: Score one more point for cake!

Now now folks it is time to get serious :)

Why must the talk be of cake or pie :confused3 Rather than puddings let us talk cheese... cheddar or camembert. I say camembert :)

Speaking of cheese! I just ate an entire round of brie and am getting ready to explode! I think its safe to say I vote for brie!

[Halbleib1]

If Disney, a private company, can take measures to control the good of their product, then why should the DIS not be allowed the same concern?

But Disney is no longer a privately held company. The day they took the company to the stock market it became a publicly held company. Thus the reason for a board of directors.

[WebmasterAlex]

[QUOTE=
What would our buddy Bawb think about this flap????
[/QUOTE]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up :)

[dpuck1998]

Lesson learned long ago....He who owns the boards make the rules. If I"m playing cards at my house I make the rules. If you don't wanna play theres the door.

[fakereadhed]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up :)

Thanks for the smile! :goodvibes

Last time I looked this was a nice thread about desserts! What happened? :sad2:

[lttlmc3]

Pete, know that we love you, your boards, and all of your hard work. It's yours and we respect it. Please don't let any disrespectful people keep you from knowing that you are doing a good thing here with these boards. You have made a lot of people happy and created a lot of different freindships with the boards. You have made the world a better place for us. Thank you. You have every right to do what you are doing. You are keeping peace. "Blessed are the peacemakers." That is true.
Everyone who wants to discuss politics and religion, "ga head" and do so. On a political or religious board. This board is for Disney lovers and friendly people made by Disney lovers and friendly people. Pete isn't keeping you from spouting your views. He is, however keeping you from doing it here, where the rest of us don't want to hear it. He is doing it for us....the real reason these boards are here.

[Halbleib1]

I'm not sure the censorship thing applies in this situation.

You are free to disagree with anything said on this forum or any other forum and as long as you follow guidelines, no one will discourage you.

You are also free to pour your heart, soul and fortune into starting any website that you wish to start. This website can contain anything you want it to contain. You might decide to be the only voice on your website and not let there be any dissenting opinion, Again...this isnt censorship or taking away someones free speech. You are free to say whatever you want on YOUR website.

A similar example would be a newspaper. You may vehemently disagree with something written in a newspaper, That doesnt mean that the newspaper has any obligation to print your disagreement and again, this isnt censorship. You are free to start your own newspaper.

The sponsors of this website are all related to Disney travel (except for the Google ads). I'm fairly certain that none of them agreed to advertise on these forums because of the political or religious debates. As I'm sure you know...there are no religions or political parties paying to advertise on this site.

As for the podcast...again....you have been given a forum to talk about what is said on the podcast. You are invited to come here free of charge and express your opinion, whether you agree or disagree, as long as you do it within the guidelines of of this webiste. If you feel the need or desire to saythings outside of the guidelines of this website, you are free to start your own. This is the very nature of free speech and the lack of censorship.

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.


I did not reply to this thread to start an argument. Something about this just rubbed me the wrong way and I felt the need to state my opinion. I hardly ever look at the community board where I understand most of these topics were discussed. And as a rule I do not discuss these topics in my real life any more than I do on the internet. Because there is no winner in either topic. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to their opinion. As I stated on that board I can understand the problems that the mods had and why they did it. I just think it is going to be a hard rule to enforce as something so simple can easily turn into either issue without meaning to. If you look at my previous posts on any of the boards I think you will find that for the most part I try to stay away from debates. But I am not perfect and I have replied to a few threads that I should have stayed away from. But for some unknown reason felt compelled to respond to at the time. Pretty much I tend to stick to just reading the boards and only responding to specific questions about Disney that I have accurate information to share. Which is what I came to these boards for to begin with. These boards are a great wealth of information about all things Disney and for that I am very grateful. Without these boards I would not have been able to plan our trips to Disney as well as I was able to.

That being said I am not going to withhold my opinion and agree with someone just because I like them.

[Halbleib1]

Pete, know that we love you, your boards, and all of your hard work. It's yours and we respect it. Please don't let any disrespectful people keep you from knowing that you are doing a good thing here with these boards. You have made a lot of people happy and created a lot of different freindships with the boards. You have made the world a better place for us. Thank you. You have every right to do what you are doing. You are keeping peace. "Blessed are the peacemakers." That is true.
Everyone who wants to discuss politics and religion, "ga head" and do so. On a political or religious board. This board is for Disney lovers and friendly people made by Disney lovers and friendly people. Pete isn't keeping you from spouting your views. He is, however keeping you from doing it here, where the rest of us don't want to hear it. He is doing it for us....the real reason these boards are here.


I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

[Tonya2426]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up :)

That made me laugh!! I can just see Bawb sitting at the computer in the middle of the night deleting threads. :lmao: I miss Bob!!! :sad1:

[Vijoge]

Pumpkin pie, Angel food cake, Toll House cookies, vanilla ice cream, Boursin cheese.

[DisneyKevin]

That being said I am not going to withhold my opinion and agree with someone just because I like them.

I dont believe anyone here would ever expect that of anyone. As I have stated many times...you are free to disagree with anything anyone says as long as you do it respectfully and within the DIS guidelines.

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

As I explained in my previous post....

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

[firsttimemom]

Ok- here's a new twist on the cake/pie debate. We're redoing our kitchen and need a new range. Gas or electric- which results in the best baked goods?

[ADP]

Ok- here's a new twist on the cake/pie debate. We're redoing our kitchen and need a new range. Gas or electric- which results in the best baked goods?
I've always been told gas works better for baking and cooking in general.

[challer]

Hmmm... no religion or politics... let's give this a test to see if they're going through with it...

Happy Passover to the Republican party!

[FireDancer]

I've always heard that a dual fuel range is best. Gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven. I believe it has to do with the dryer electric heat. I don't know but it is what Alton Brown suggests so that is good enough for me.:thumbsup2

[knewton64]

This rule should be followed in ALL social forums for the most part. It's been proven time and time again that while a lot of people can maintain civility in such discussions, there are always a chosen few that cannot behave appropriately.

Although I mostly lurk, on this particular section of the boards, I am proud to see that the inhabitants are very civil in all discussions, and people can get there food preferences across with little chance of a rebellious uprising.

However, I must say that brownies trump all! You don't need a utensil to eat it, so it wins! If any of you disagree with this rock solid assessment, you just don't know what you are talking about. ;)

....that's M&M (plain) covered brownies!!!:cloud9:

[challer]

Without politics and religion, what will we talk about all the time - eye surgery?


Wait a minute...:rolleyes:

[WebmasterPete]

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

You mean like when I imposed this rule on myself and the team on the show over a year ago?

[Madi100]

You know sometimes we make new rules for our kids and they whine and complain and it really doesn't matter, because in the end, we are the parents and we still win. Sometimes when parents are making these rules, there is company. The company will either walk away and think, "Hmm, what well behaved children." OR, "Wow, look at those brats."

I'm still trying to figure out why my kids argue with me. I'm not going to give in and allow them to eat BOTH cake and pie for a snack. If they keep arguing, they'll get NOTHING.

[Halbleib1]

You mean like when I imposed this rule on myself and the team on the show over a year ago?


No disrespect but you asked me a direct question and I feel the need to give you an honest answer.

Sorry I must have missed that podcast. I do not always get the chance to listen every week and am behind a bit on the podcasts. I do realize that no one has promoted any particular group or party. I was not trying to insinuate that at all. I have just begun listening consistantly again. What I was refering to was the tourism/tax dollar debate/rant and what they should be using that money for. If it involves government in any way it can be construed as political can it not? By the way I agree with you 100% on that issue. Even some of Disney's decisions can be taken politically or turn into it real easy. I think that is where some of the concern is coming from about enforcement of this new rule.

As I said I have no problem following the new rules and will do so by staying away from the debatable/controversial threads as I have been doing for the most part anyway as in the end it is usually pointless bickering anyway.

[Tonya2426]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now. :love:

[Matt@WDWR]

I have been an admin for a pretty popular movie website since 2002. We basically banned political talk six years ago because the amount of venom in the threads was starting to seep over into other threads. The site never suffered from it. We did make a concession during the last Presidential election and created a politics forum that people had to request membership into. The rules were pretty strict. If you launched into a personal attack you were gone. It did work okay but I am still against political discussion on the boards because political discussion is the almost complete opposite of community building.

Regardless, Pete and Kevin and the rest are being pretty lenient. I would have just posted the policy change and then locked the thread. Whining gets on my last nerve haha and it won't sway my opinion.

[Halbleib1]

I dont believe anyone here would ever expect that of anyone. As I have stated many times...you are free to disagree with anything anyone says as long as you do it respectfully and within the DIS guidelines.

Halbleib1:I do not believe I was breaking dis guidelines with that post but if I was than I am sorry as I was not aware of it nor was I meaning to. Nor was I trying to be disrespectful. I was just stating my opinion and trying to explain where I was coming from as you invited me to do. It is not personal we just have different opinions on the subject. Agree to disagree on this one?
As I explained in my previous post....

As a guest...even a sponsoring guest...you are not entitled to write your own rules when visiting this or any other website or publication. You are entitled to your own opinion and you have the power to express that on your website, publication or podcast.

As I have said in my previous posts I am willing to follow the rules as I have always tried to do in the past. But it does not mean that I have to agree with them. But I will express my disagreement elsewhere in respect to the rules.

[ckdsnynt]

That's good. Those pol 'bates on the community board were brutal! Not as brutal as pie vs. cake though. Brownies kick pies butt everytime but cake trumps brownies. Everybody knows that.

Cake over pie? Obviously spoken by someone that has never eaten my fresh apple pie hot out of the oven or my extra special peach cobbler made from fresh peaches with my very own extra special secret ingredient. :snooty:
But to each his own:)

P.S. Sorry. It's not polite to brag on yourself. I know better. But they really are good. Wish I had some now. With ice cream. Or without.

[ckdsnynt]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now. :love:

Are we talking home made or storebought? Makes a difference ya know!

[aspen37]

Way back when Bawb used to moderate he had 2 styles. If he thought someone needed talking too he would put on his Sheriff Wilderness persona and lecture them... with a lot of pardners and ya'all sprinkeled in.
If he really didn't like what you posted he was the KING of middle of the night post removal. He would literaly wait untill late at night/early in the morning and just delete the thread without a word of explanation.

It always cracked me up :)

I can see Bob doing that. :rotfl2:

You know sometimes we make new rules for our kids and they whine and complain and it really doesn't matter, because in the end, we are the parents and we still win. Sometimes when parents are making these rules, there is company. The company will either walk away and think, "Hmm, what well behaved children." OR, "Wow, look at those brats."

I'm still trying to figure out why my kids argue with me. I'm not going to give in and allow them to eat BOTH cake and pie for a snack. If they keep arguing, they'll get NOTHING.
:thumbsup2


No disrespect but you asked me a direct question and I feel the need to give you an honest answer.

Sorry I must have missed that podcast. I do not always get the chance to listen every week and am behind a bit on the podcasts. I do realize that no one has promoted any particular group or party. I was not trying to insinuate that at all. I have just begun listening consistantly again. What I was refering to was the tourism/tax dollar debate/rant and what they should be using that money for. If it involves government in any way it can be construed as political can it not? By the way I agree with you 100% on that issue. Even some of Disney's decisions can be taken politically or turn into it real easy. I think that is where some of the concern is coming from about enforcement of this new rule.

As I said I have no problem following the new rules and will do so by staying away from the debatable/controversial threads as I have been doing for the most part anyway as in the end it is usually pointless bickering anyway.


There was thread and someone asked Pete this question. The reason is because the tax dollars were for tourism. The podcast is about WDW and Universal. That is tourism.

[Madi100]

Don't hate me but I am going to be controversial now:


Ice Cream


I know t's not a baked good (and don't get me wrong, I love pie, cake, and cookies) but ice cream is my favorite!! It has gotten me through some tough times and I am not going to turn my back on it now. :love:

That depends. Is it fat free ice-cream? I just had some fat-free ice-cream that is not agreeing with my tummy.

[DisneyKevin]

I do not believe I was breaking dis guidelines with that post but if I was than I am sorry as I was not aware of it nor was I meaning to. Nor was I trying to be disrespectful. I was just stating my opinion and trying to explain where I was coming from as you invited me to do. It is not personal we just have different opinions on the subject. Agree to disagree on this one?
.

I was not accusing you of breaking any rules. I was simply stating the same thing I say every time something like this comes up.

I also dont believe you are being disrespectful. You have been invited to share your opinion and as long as you (and anyone else) follows DIS Board guidelines, you will be allowed to voice your opinion.

As far as agreeing to disagree....I cant do that on this one. A new policy has been put in place and we all will abide by it whether we like it or not.

You've asked about this being applicable from the top down and whether or not this applies to the podcast and that seems to be a sticking point. As this is a privately held business and even though we have been invited to voice our opinion...all decisions and policies rest solely with the owner of the business.

[WaltD4Me]

I have no problem with following the rules but I feel that if they are going to put rules into place for the rest of us it should apply across the board. From the top right on down.

I look at this as a "My house, my rules" kind of thing. The DISboards being Pete's "house" in this scenario. And at my house I have a few rules, not many, but a few and from time to time I have broken all of them. ;)

[Halbleib1]

I was not accusing you of breaking any rules. I was simply stating the same thing I say every time something like this comes up.
I also dont believe you are being disrespectful. You have been invited to share your opinion and as long as you (and anyone else) follows DIS Board guidelines, you will be allowed to voice your opinion.

Just wanted to clarify that. Thank you.

As far as agreeing to disagree....I cant do that on this one. A new policy has been put in place and we all will abide by it whether we like it or not.

I was not asking you to agree to disagree about the policy or to make an exception or whatever it may have come off sounding like in my post-I am sure you were not the main decision maker and could not change it even if you wanted to. I have said that I will follow the rules even though I do not agree with them. I was asking to agree to disagree about our opinions on some of the issues I raised in my posts about why I do not agree with the decision and/or with some of the answers provided by you and others about the decision.

You've asked about this being applicable from the top down and whether or not this applies to the podcast and that seems to be a sticking point. As this is a privately held business and even though we have been invited to voice our opinion...all decisions and policies rest solely with the owner of the business.


This will be my last comment on this topic as no matter what is said the decision has been made and I do not wish to have any hard feelings about it as that was never my intention. Quite frankly as I said in a past post I tried not to participate in those topics anyhow but it is a matter of principal and just rubbed me the wrong way. Thus the reason I am responding this last time:

In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

[M&M's]

In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

I think I remember once on the podcast Pete said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, "I'm sorry. I promised never to discuss politics on this podcast, but..."

That's once in, what, three years? And all that time there was no official policy regarding politics or religion. So as far as my memory goes, I think the podcast team was leading by example. I can say with confidence that the moderators not on the podcast team are held to the same standard as well in the forums. While Pete and the team can do whatever they would like and censor the rest of us, that is not what I believe Pete stands for (or Kevin, John, etc..). In other words, I know everyone who posts on these boards will have to follow the rules, regardless of what the title says below their name.

Also, since this is a NEW policy, we really cannot look at the past, because a few days ago there was no rule against discussing politics or religion.

[Halbleib1]

I think I remember once on the podcast Pete said something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, "I'm sorry. I promised never to discuss politics on this podcast, but..."

That's once in, what, three years? And all that time there was no official policy regarding politics or religion. So as far as my memory goes, I think the podcast team was leading by example. I can say with confidence that the moderators not on the podcast team are held to the same standard as well in the forums. While Pete and the team can do whatever they would like and censor the rest of us, that is not what I believe Pete stands for (or Kevin, John, etc..). In other words, I know everyone who posts on these boards will have to follow the rules, regardless of what the title says below their name. Time will tell on this as well.

Also, since this is a NEW policy, we really cannot look at the past, because a few days ago there was no rule against discussing politics or religion.
That's a fair statement and only time will tell.

[luke]

Personally I think it's a good move to have it as official policy, as these kind of topics are the ones that can get the most heated in my experience.

One thing tho, how does this effect things like sigs and avatars, as I'm sure I've seen the odd religious/political one about :)

:goodvibes

[eeyorethegreat]

I don't even know why this is a big deal, these boards have a main focus of Disney travel and Disney topics in general. Do things get off topic sure obviously but really folks what drew us to the DIS was not religion or politics, it was a love of or at least an interest in Disney. I am quite sure given that fact, the Dis will continue to be a successful venture without the random discussions of religion and politics. Those who must discuss religion and politics have many, many other resources to do so both online and offline as Kevin and Pete have said, and the Dis is not the place to do that.

Oh and by the way, I like a good strawberry pie!

[bonybroad]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

[DVCsince02]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

It's in the name on this one.... Pie.:laughing:

[WebmasterPete]

[/b]

In other words it is to be do as I say not as I do. If you are going to have certain rules in place weather it be in your own home or in business- be it private or public owned you need to set a good example. For example: in my own home I ask that people please remove their shoes in the foyer. To set a good example I remove my shoes as does my husband and son in the foyer as well. I can not expect guests to my home to remove their shoes if I am not willing to do the same. As well as when I go to others homes I remove my shoes out of respect for them. Do rules get broken on occasion? Of course they do we are all human. But people learn best by example.

Sorry, I wasn't going to respond to this - BUT...

There was one occasion, I believe it was a little more than a year ago, where I did discuss something that was overtly political. I apologized for it the next week and promised my listeners that it would not happen again. As for the tourism tax issue - THAT HAS TO DO WITH TOURISM WHICH IS WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT. I think it's becoming clear that you don't listen to the show very often and are simply spouting nonsense because you disagree with this new policy and don't have any facts to back up your argument.

You accuse me of not following my own rules. Since we just implemented this policy THIS WEEKEND and have not yet done a show since it was implemented, exactly how is this a "do as I say, not as I do" scenario? Give me "examples" where we've violated this??

Bottom line - if you don’t like how I run the boards - don’t post here. If you don't like how I run the show - don't listen. Your "freedom" as an American gives you the right to utilize that white strip above your browser to enter in any URL you'd like. Perhaps there’s another show/forum that better suits your tastes.

In any event, if you're going to accuse me of something, you should be able to back it up with proof and not the uninformed hyperbole you've been spewing.

Pete

[bonybroad]

But it's actually cake disguised as a pie. Soooo, if you like Boston Cream pie, you actually like cake!
Nyah Nyah!:earboy2:

[JimFitz]

Can't we all just get along? I've debated on the political threads and I am glad they are gone. I found myself getting upset on a Disney Message board about peoples political views......WTH??

I want to see John do the Single Ladies dance while eating pie.

[disneydreamgirl]

DH would tell you brownies trump all because you can eat them lying down watching the game! :laughing:

[JenniBugInPink]

Pete, know that we love you, your boards, and all of your hard work. It's yours and we respect it. Please don't let any disrespectful people keep you from knowing that you are doing a good thing here with these boards. You have made a lot of people happy and created a lot of different freindships with the boards. You have made the world a better place for us. Thank you...

Thanks to The Dis via Pete, John, Kevin, et. al., my husband and I just put a downpayment on a small AKV DVC membership. We took our first vacation in 30 YEARS 2 years ago. We were people that NEVER went on vacation. We had such a good time, thanks to the things I learned here on the boards, that we went again last year. And now, thanks to a bit of money we inherited from FIL, we're making sure that I get to go back to WDW most every year.

None of that would have happened were it not for the boards. I wouldn't have known how to make that first trip to Disney easy. I wouldn't have known that there was a special going on where I could buy only 100 points at AV right now. I wouldn't have known about the incentive that saved us money. I wouldn't have known so many things that have made that one week out of the year that means more to me than you guys can possibly imagine so special and important.

So, THANK YOU!! As far as I'm concerned, you can make any rule you want. And you don't have to follow it if you don't want to, cause this is YOUR board--you're just giving us the opportunity to benefit from it. And you can talk about anything you like on the podcast, too! Just don't ever stop doing them, cause I'd die without them!

[wishspirit]

Yum, yum key lime pie.

Yuck! I have to voice my own opinion of grossness on that desert!

Now now folks it is time to get serious :)

Why must the talk be of cake or pie :confused3 Rather than puddings let us talk cheese... cheddar or camembert. I say camembert :)

All cheese is wrong, yuck yuck yuck!!

For those who don't use it, Firefox has a built in spell checker for bad spellers like me. It really is much better than IE. Just say'en ;)

*cough* Google chrome *cough* ;) (although the weird thing with it is, it always highlights google as being spelled wrong!! :rotfl:)

I've always heard that a dual fuel range is best. Gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven. I believe it has to do with the dryer electric heat. I don't know but it is what Alton Brown suggests so that is good enough for me.:thumbsup2

Definitely electric fan assisted for ovens and gas or ceramic for stoves, wouldn't have it any other way!

Lets all not get upset about politics on a Disney discussion board (my friends are laughing that this would even be an issue!), I think the main problem is people not knowing where the cut and dry will be. As it has always been, mods have the final decision, and with this new rule they can punish those who ether say horrid things or 'bait' others into saying them. They won't have a go at you if your thread on mickey socks happens to end up in a sticky wicket, however they will obviously punish the person who is making other posters upset or unhappy. The mods here do a good job, and as long as you are respectful and kind, there is no issue.

I understand that people are disappointed, however there are plenty of other places in which these things are be discussed, and don't worry about something you say potentially being political, if it isn't derogatory or 'baiting' it shouldn't be an issue.

What Pete said on the podcast about the use of Tourism dollars in Orlando was exactly that. He is allowed to state his opinion. If he was being rude or nasty to the government or its supporters, it would be a different matter, however he just said it was a waste. If you have an issue with what is being said on the podcast, there are plenty of great podcasts out there to try out instead, which maybe a better fit (heck I listen to others just for the great music they play in the background rather than just harps! :laughing:)

Everything could be misconstrued in the wrong way, especially in type where intonation isn't always obvious. All we can do it be polite, and trust the mods, who do an outstanding job! :thumbsup2

p.s. What's with all this 'rights of American's' stuff? Don't forget the Brits here too! :cutie:

[Tonya2426]

Are we talking home made or storebought? Makes a difference ya know!

Whatever somone prefers!! Just depends on how good the home made is - some sf better than others. Which is the same for store bought. I am a big fan of Edy's right now.

That depends. Is it fat free ice-cream? I just had some fat-free ice-cream that is not agreeing with my tummy.

Fat-free ice cream!?!?!?! What is the point of that? :rotfl2: I have given up on those and would just rather go without than go fat-free or low-fat. Just not worth it in the end. :)

[Tonya2426]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?

The best of all things....

Just because you call it a duck doesn't mean it waddles and quackes. No crust means it is not pie. Therefore it is cake with yummy custard filling. :woohoo:

[WaltD4Me]

Quote:
Originally Posted by safetymom
Yum, yum key lime pie.


Yuck! I have to voice my own opinion of grossness on that desert!

Okay, NOW, you have gone TOO far!!!!

Key lime pie gross??? Key lime pie is a fresh summer delight that surpasses many of the other desserts discussed here. I had decided not to say anything about the inferior choices that were being discussed, I was just going to keep my mouth shut comfortable in the knowledge that key lime PIE was of course the best, but you crossed the line, insulting and disparaging such a wonderful confection and since you were not capable of keeping this a civil discussion, I will tell you what IS gross....NUTS of any kind in any dessert! They taste like dirt most of the time and should be banned from all cookies, brownies, pies and any other dessert people put them in. They are just nasty. No offense to any nut lovers out there of course. :blush:

[wishspirit]

Okay, NOW, you have gone TOO far!!!!

Key lime pie gross??? Key lime pie is a fresh summer delight that surpasses many of the other desserts discussed here. I had decided not to say anything about the inferior choices that were being discussed, I was just going to keep my mouth shut comfortable in the knowledge that key lime PIE was of course the best, but you crossed the line, insulting and disparaging such a wonderful confection and since you were not capable of keeping this a civil discussion, I will tell you what IS gross....NUTS of any kind in any dessert! They taste like dirt most of the time and should be banned from all cookies, brownies, pies and any other dessert people put them in. They are just nasty. No offense to any nut lovers out there of course. :blush:

Key Lime pie makes my tongue tingle... in a bad way!

Yuck!

[crazydisneyman]

Fat-free ice cream!?!?!?! What is the point of that? :rotfl2: I have given up on those and would just rather go without than go fat-free or low-fat. Just not worth it in the end. :)


I must confess that Eddy's Slow Churn (which is half the fat of normal ice cream) is very very very good, especially the Cookie Dough. Yum Yum Yum :thumbsup2

[miss missy]

Just reading this now :thumbsup2 Oh thank the lord! Oopps lol. No really, this is great news :thumbsup2:thumbsup2 but I still am not leaving here!

[robind]

Just wanted to throw my support for Pete and his crew and the new rules. If I want to discuss politics and / or religion, I will go somewhere else.

I don't even discuss those topics with my extended family. :lmao:

[robertgp124]

I don't even discuss those topics with my extended family. :lmao:

ESPECIALLY family!

[DisneyKevin]

No offense to any nut lovers out there of course. :blush:

I have matured.

I am going to leave this alone.

:rotfl2:

[Blumonkeyboy]

I dont feel like reading the whole thread


Doesnt this violate my rights to freedom of speech?

[Matt@WDWR]

Please tell me you are joking. LOL

[Blumonkeyboy]

Actually i wasnt.
now that i think about it im wrong though.

I do think its a good policy to an extent. but i think we should still be allowed to voice our oppinions, in a non offensivve way.

[JenniBugInPink]

I have matured.

I am going to leave this alone.Kevin!! Behave! I heard those thoughts all the way up here in TN!! :lmao::lmao:

[JenniBugInPink]

I dont feel like reading the whole thread Your opinion has already been quite adequately addressed by the moderators and owners of the site in those pages you "don't feel like reading". I highly recommend them for your perusal.

[Blumonkeyboy]

ok, ill check them out some time.
Im not saying its a bad policy. Im sick, i posted without thinking.

[Blumonkeyboy]

Ok, by some freak chance, it just so happens the first page i read had petes statement on it.

I was wrong.

[WickedWench]

I have no problem with the policy, per se, but I do have a modest suggestion. I inadvertantly posted an image of the president, which apparently any political reference is now worthy of a warning. The reason I inadvertantly posted it was because usually when I come to the boards, I go straight to my control panel, click only on the threads I've subscribed to, and read them. No where did I see this rule change. It would be nice if we got a friendly email when these rule changes occur, or if it's posted on the front page that an important rule change has occured and that we should read it. I do not visit individual forums often, so I do not see stickys immediately. Getting a warning in the manner I did felt like a hostile slap in the face, and frankly, I'm very hurt. I did not do anything nasty or deserving of the unkind way I was notified of the rule change.

[DisneyKevin]

It would be nice if we got a friendly email when these rule changes occur, or if it's posted on the front page that an important rule change has occured and that we should read it. I do not visit individual forums often, so I do not see stickys immediately. Getting a warning in the manner I did felt like a hostile slap in the face, and frankly, I'm very hurt. I did not do anything nasty or deserving of the unkind way I was notified of the rule change.

Hi WickedWench,

I'm sorry you were offended. As you can imagine, sending an email to the vast number of folks registered with the DIS would be a huge undertaking.

Here is the notice we send to all folks regarding the posting of political signatures, photos etc:

Your recent post has been removed. Please review the DIS policy regarding political and religious comments. Here is a link - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

We feel this is a very mild announcement of the new policy which went into effect this week.

If you received something other than this...please let me know.

Thanks,
Kevin

[aspen37]

I have no problem with the policy, per se, but I do have a modest suggestion. I inadvertantly posted an image of the president, which apparently any political reference is now worthy of a warning. The reason I inadvertantly posted it was because usually when I come to the boards, I go straight to my control panel, click only on the threads I've subscribed to, and read them. No where did I see this rule change. It would be nice if we got a friendly email when these rule changes occur, or if it's posted on the front page that an important rule change has occured and that we should read it. I do not visit individual forums often, so I do not see stickys immediately. Getting a warning in the manner I did felt like a hostile slap in the face, and frankly, I'm very hurt. I did not do anything nasty or deserving of the unkind way I was notified of the rule change.

Sorry that happened to you. I agree and think it would be a good idea to post that there has been a rule change on the front page. I don't alway look at all the posts or the stickies at the top of the page.

[aspen37]

Hi WickedWench,

I'm sorry you were offended. As you can imagine, sending an email to the vast number of folks registered with the DIS would be a huge undertaking.

Here is the notice we send to all folks regarding the posting of political signatures, photos etc:

Your recent post has been removed. Please review the DIS policy regarding political and religious comments. Here is a link - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

We feel this is a very mild announcement of the new policy which went into effect this week.

If you received something other than this...please let me know.

Thanks,
Kevin

That was not hostile that is very nice.:thumbsup2

[miss missy]

I have matured.

I am going to leave this alone.

:rotfl2:

Oh don't go doing that on us, that's not fun ;)

[AllyGirl_79]

I have matured.

I am going to leave this alone.

:rotfl2:

I laughed so hard I spit my soda out on my keyboard. How do you clean a keyboard?

[miss missy]

Okay, I'm going to make it tough on everyone (and I just had to read 9 PAGES of posts to get to this..)
Boston Cream Pie

Is it pie?

Is it cake?

What about the custard?

Chocolate icing?


The best of all things....

well duh... if your from Boston, then you know ... it's a donut :rotfl2::rotfl:

[CelticBelle]

well duh... if your from Boston, then you know ... it's a donut :rotfl2::rotfl:

:confused3 No im not from boston, but WTH is in your donuts???

[drakethib]

That's too bad. I very rarely participated, but sometimes those threads could really be pretty interesting....in a good way, not when they broke out into wars. It's a shame people can't debate civilly.



I agree.

I enjoyed reading some as well but I do understand the reasoning. People have gotten pretty bent on this board.

[drakethib]

While I realize this has very little impact on the particular forum, we have been asked to post something letting everyone know that there is a new policy in effect for every area of the DIS Boards.

Discussions of politics and religion are no longer allowed anywhere on the DIS.

This does not mean that you can not ask for prayers or pixie dust, It doesnt mean that you can not wish someone Merry Christmas.

It means that political and religious discussion / debates are not allowed.

If anyone is interested the new policy is located here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2125870

As I said earlier...this has VERY little bearing on this forum, but we were asked to let everyone know.

Debates on cake versus pie versus brownies are fine BTW.



Hmm.

So Kevin, if John had posted 316 times, and I say "Wow John, 316 post !"

Is that wrong?

Ok, weak attempt at a joke.

[Vijoge]

I laughed so hard I spit my soda out on my keyboard. How do you clean a keyboard?

It's a pain in the butt. I used to clean them but then I discovered the $11 keyboard at Wal-mart. Now I just go buy a new one! I know, not very green of me. . .but i do freecycle the old one and give it to someone who has more patience than I urrently possess.

[Madi100]

I have matured.

I am going to leave this alone.

:rotfl2:


No, you haven't, and no you didn't.

That's why I love you. Score one for Mr. Innuendo. I think you are now one ahead of Copier Repairman.

[M&M's]

:confused3 No im not from boston, but WTH is in your donuts??? Well, in the case of the Boston Cream Pie doughnut, um, Boston cream?

[abish19]

Okay everyone - can't we all agree that DESSERT in any form is utterly fabulous? :) Now all I want to do is eat!

I say the new policy is a good one. Do we need more contention in the world? Do we need more opportunities to give or take offense? Too often a real, respectful debate can get ugly. And if there's one thing I don't need it's more ugly.:rotfl:

[Commando2319]

And if there's one thing I don't need it's more ugly.

Oh. I guess I won't post my photo on here then. :rotfl2: