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Belle2667
03-17-2009, 06:35 PM
Hi -

We're sailing on the Magic again in October and I know the room TVs were replaced in the last dry dock.

Does anyone know if we could hook up our PS3 to the new TVs?

Thanks!

Sabeking
03-17-2009, 07:01 PM
Good question!!! The kids would love the Wii. We are going in October as well; the 10th!

mmouse37
03-17-2009, 07:55 PM
Here are the pics I took of the new TV's as I knew this question would be asked again....

Click this link and it will bring you to my webshots album where I have pics of the inputs on the back the new TV's.

http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/50699182NjAJFG?vhost=entertainment&start=56

MJ

lbgraves
03-17-2009, 08:01 PM
There are video games including a Wii in the club. ROFL. I would not let the kids play games in the stateroom if we have paid to go on a cruise. The kids bring their DS games along only for the trip to and from the port from home...about a 12 hour drive. They have never pulled them out on the ship. We were never in the room long enough...except to sleep that is.

mmmagic7754
03-17-2009, 08:09 PM
I agree,with all there is to do on the ship i would be mad as heck if the kids were sucked into video games in the room!!!!!!!!!!!!

Khazid
03-17-2009, 08:15 PM
DCL requests that you not hook up video game systems to the televisions. The ports are definitely available, but there is a good chance that they have been disabled via the setup menus in the TV's themselves.

Here is the link for the list of Prohibited Items (http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/dcl/en_US/help/overview?name=ProhibitedItemsFAQLandingPage) from the DCL website.

NCDISFAM
03-17-2009, 08:30 PM
What a great idea. Maybe they can order room service for meals as well and never leave the room. They will be a nice lumpy pastey white by the time the cruse is over.

lbgraves
03-17-2009, 08:30 PM
I do have to wonder since that has obviously not been updated in a while since it has the PS as the game listed in the lab instead of the Wii that it was due to the old televisions. I do not know that it was possible to even hook one up to the older TVs. Just wondering if that was the sole reason for it before...still won't let the kids bring one. ;)

dursin
03-17-2009, 08:38 PM
There are video games including a Wii in the club. ROFL. I would not let the kids play games in the stateroom if we have paid to go on a cruise. The kids bring their DS games along only for the trip to and from the port from home...about a 12 hour drive. They have never pulled them out on the ship. We were never in the room long enough...except to sleep that is.
I agree. If I'm paying to take the kids on a cruise, they aren't going to be playing the exact same games that the do at home on a screen 1/3 the size on the ship. There are PLENTY of other options.

TraciM
03-17-2009, 08:50 PM
I agree. If I'm paying to take the kids on a cruise, they aren't going to be playing the exact same games that the do at home on a screen 1/3 the size on the ship. There are PLENTY of other options.

I agree.

Sabeking
03-17-2009, 08:52 PM
Tough crowd! No doubt we will be spending the majority of our time cruising but if one kid played a game while the other napped I don't think this would be a terrible thing:scared1:

papaof5boys
03-17-2009, 09:22 PM
What a great idea. Maybe they can order room service for meals as well and never leave the room. They will be a nice lumpy pastey white by the time the cruse is over.

And on the last night you can just roll them out in the hall way with your bags:happytv:

Sabeking
03-17-2009, 09:28 PM
Jeez people; one of the people cruising with us has a disabled son who can not do much. She was thinking of this for him when he has time in the room.

Khazid
03-17-2009, 09:46 PM
Jeez people; one of the people cruising with us has a disabled son who can not do much. She was thinking of this for him when he has time in the room.I would suggest calling the cruise line and speaking with a supervisor. If they have disabled the ports on the new TV's in the staterooms, there is a chance they would make an exception for you and enable them for the length of your stay.

Even better, they may confirm for you that they are live and can be used for your stay.

The worst they can do is refer you to the Prohibited Items list, and all you are out is just the time to make the call :)

Sabeking
03-17-2009, 09:49 PM
Thanks, I will definately pass this info on!:flower3:

lbgraves
03-17-2009, 10:23 PM
You may want to check out the DIS-abilities board for information your friend might find helpful to help her son have the best cruise possible. :) There may be other things that DCL can offer if he does need to spend time in the room or they may have suggestions of what is available for him to enjoy that she never thought possible. I hope all of you have a great cruise! After many years of seeing people ask about taking game systems for their children to play in the stateroom on the cruise just because they don't like to be away from the games, I just figured it was the same situation, though it may be for the OP. I am sorry and I hope all of you have a great cruise!

http://www.disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20

all5ofus
03-17-2009, 10:49 PM
The ports are not disabled. If you are technically competent you can set them up. I did this not for video games, but for camcorder and portable DVD players. There was no problem, You just need to figure out how to change between the different video input sources.

Belle2667
03-18-2009, 06:19 AM
OP here -

On our next cruise, DS13 will be by himself with several adults. He is not happy about going, but he has no choice. This is not his first cruise either and he is not happy that they changed the age groups for the Stack as he's bored with the Oceaneers Club.

I didn't plan on creating any arguments, I was just looking for options to get him to "buy" into going with us. If that meant bringing his video games to play in our room, so be it.

Suz D
03-18-2009, 06:35 AM
OP here -

On our next cruise, DS13 will be by himself with several adults. He is not happy about going, but he has no choice. This is not his first cruise either and he is not happy that they changed the age groups for the Stack as he's bored with the Oceaneers Club.

I didn't plan on creating any arguments, I was just looking for options to get him to "buy" into going with us. If that meant bringing his video games to play in our room, so be it.


Belle,

For a long time we had an only child until we adopted our foster daughter this past summer. One thing that worked great for us on our 7 night cruise in 2007 when our daughter was 11 1/2 was to get her aquainted with some of the kids via the meets thread for our cruise. I ended up doing a small scrapbooking project for girls ages 8-13. We met in the lounge and put together the scrapbooks and visited. We also went to the meet and greet on Sunday morning for breakfast. She then got to know another girl really well and just had a great time with her. We're hoping to cruise again with them for Thanksgiving 2010.

Although your son isn't an "only" it's still very similar and worked GREAT for us. Have you gotten on the meets thread for your cruise to see if any boys his age are going? We started an e-mail list so they could e-mail back and forth a bit before cruising.

Good luck, and here's hoping that you won't need the Wii to entice him onboard!

Suz D

lbgraves
03-18-2009, 07:34 AM
Has your DS looked into what is offered at the OQ? It is not at all like the OC or OL. It is like a mini version of the Stack with unstructured programming. There are links in the DIS DCL FAQ thread in the KIDS CLUB section for pictures of the OQ and he can check out the NAVIGATORS to see what is going on with his age group.

Belle2667
03-18-2009, 08:45 AM
Thanks lbgraves, but he's just being a moody 13YO and he doesn't want to "meet" anyone via internet. I've been checking our cruise's listing of kids and so far, the only ones his age are girls, making the suggestion of "meeting" someone before the cruise even less likely.

Yes, while he's not the only one, he's the baby and now he gets our undivided attention and doesn't really want it (or not at least as often as we can give it).

Well, we've got time so he may come around. I was just looking for a way to make this less painful for me....and him.:rotfl2:

bigbootee
03-18-2009, 10:09 AM
DCL requests that you not hook up video game systems to the televisions. The ports are definitely available, but there is a good chance that they have been disabled via the setup menus in the TV's themselves.

Here is the link for the list of Prohibited Items (http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/dcl/en_US/help/overview?name=ProhibitedItemsFAQLandingPage) from the DCL website.

This list is old and still refers to VCRs. Also, the ports do work. I hooked my iPod up to tv in our bedroom in our cain on the Magic 11/8/08 and it played fine.

DrD
03-18-2009, 10:48 AM
Thanks lbgraves, but he's just being a moody 13YO and he doesn't want to "meet" anyone via internet. I've been checking our cruise's listing of kids and so far, the only ones his age are girls, making the suggestion of "meeting" someone before the cruise even less likely.

Yes, while he's not the only one, he's the baby and now he gets our undivided attention and doesn't really want it (or not at least as often as we can give it).

Well, we've got time so he may come around. I was just looking for a way to make this less painful for me....and him.:rotfl2:

I'd vote for camp Grandma for him.

CurlyBlueEyes
03-18-2009, 08:14 PM
What port is there for the iPod? Is it a USB port?
I would love to be able to fall asleep to my favorite music!

thanks

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
03-18-2009, 10:40 PM
Why in the world would they purposely "disable" ports on the tv? I don't get that..

Khazid
03-19-2009, 12:59 AM
Why in the world would they purposely "disable" ports on the tv? I don't get that..A lot of current televisions lives can be shortened dramatically by current video games. The amount of pixels and color changes being pushed by the programs shorten the life of plasma and LCD screens. A lot of hotels have these types of units, so to protect their lifespans they disable the ports so that users cannot change channels to the video inputs that they data flows too.

DCL may not have disabled them yet, but it would be my guess that if they lose a couple of those new units to pixelation or burned screens they will.

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
03-19-2009, 03:00 AM
A lot of current televisions lives can be shortened dramatically by current video games. The amount of pixels and color changes being pushed by the programs shorten the life of plasma and LCD screens. A lot of hotels have these types of units, so to protect their lifespans they disable the ports so that users cannot change channels to the video inputs that they data flows too.

DCL may not have disabled them yet, but it would be my guess that if they lose a couple of those new units to pixelation or burned screens they will.
Oh
I had no idea. Thanks for explaining.
I really do learn something new every day. I had no idea that playing games shortens the lives of tv's more than just watching the tv. Interesting...

andrews_dad
03-19-2009, 11:01 AM
What a great idea. Maybe they can order room service for meals as well and never leave the room. They will be a nice lumpy pastey white by the time the cruse is over.

I knew this sort of reaction was coming. There is no reason we should pass judgement. If they want to Wii or PS3 on a cruise, go for it. Some folks around here are tough on the hard-core Diz line.

DrD
03-19-2009, 11:28 AM
A lot of current televisions lives can be shortened dramatically by current video games. The amount of pixels and color changes being pushed by the programs shorten the life of plasma and LCD screens. A lot of hotels have these types of units, so to protect their lifespans they disable the ports so that users cannot change channels to the video inputs that they data flows too.

DCL may not have disabled them yet, but it would be my guess that if they lose a couple of those new units to pixelation or burned screens they will.

Well, the real problem is that video games often have a "fixed" image, such as a score or a life bar, that is always in the same spot and can lead to burn-in or dead pixels. also, the game can be paused which then leaves a still image on the screen for awhile (although most modern consoles have screensavers)

brucechase
03-19-2009, 11:57 AM
I knew this sort of reaction was coming. There is no reason we should pass judgement. If they want to Wii or PS3 on a cruise, go for it. Some folks around here are tough on the hard-core Diz line.

Just like the other threads, it is a rule from Disney NOT to hook up games to the TV. I'm not sure if it will hurt anything or not, but there are some definate hard core rule followers here (unless it is something that they want to do).

sja03a
03-19-2009, 01:01 PM
ummm negative. please do not give out bad info. hotels lock them out so you have to pay for their over priced movie and gaming options. Huge source of revenue for them, any TV manufactured by a name brand TV maker can handle gaming just as much as it could standard definition tv. BTW they do not lock them out.

A lot of current televisions lives can be shortened dramatically by current video games. The amount of pixels and color changes being pushed by the programs shorten the life of plasma and LCD screens. A lot of hotels have these types of units, so to protect their lifespans they disable the ports so that users cannot change channels to the video inputs that they data flows too.

DCL may not have disabled them yet, but it would be my guess that if they lose a couple of those new units to pixelation or burned screens they will.

sja03a
03-19-2009, 01:04 PM
Well, the real problem is that video games often have a "fixed" image, such as a score or a life bar, that is always in the same spot and can lead to burn-in or dead pixels. also, the game can be paused which then leaves a still image on the screen for awhile (although most modern consoles have screensavers)

the only type of tv that suffers from burn in is plasma and that was early in the life cycle of plasma technology. The TV's on board are def LCD as they do not make plasma tv's that small. Please do not misinform.

Khazid
03-19-2009, 04:29 PM
ummm negative. please do not give out bad info. hotels lock them out so you have to pay for their over priced movie and gaming options. Huge source of revenue for them, any TV manufactured by a name brand TV maker can handle gaming just as much as it could standard definition tv. BTW they do not lock them out.I do not doubt that hotels lock out the video inputs as a way of generating revenue. However; screens definitely do experience burn-in (the common term used for these scenarios irregardless of the technology used). Feel free to google it, every hi-res system out there has it. So this is not bad info.:confused3
the only type of tv that suffers from burn in is plasma and that was early in the life cycle of plasma technology. The TV's on board are def LCD as they do not make plasma tv's that small. Please do not misinform.LCD TV's experience what is called in the industry as image persistence. They can also experience stuck pixels (noticeable against a dark background) and dead pixels (black on a white background). Stuck pixels will sometimes recover, dead pixels are more difficult to get repaired and/or recovered.

Today's technology does limit the frequency of "burn-in" scenarios, but they do happen on every type of TV out there.

The most common occurrence of these "burn-in" issues come from log in screens (like the x-box dock) and from very bright persistent graphics that stay in one place for a long period of time. Most manufacturers strongly urge purchasers to turn off their sets rather than leave these images up on the screens.

Considering the cost that it would take to have a set of this type in every stateroom, I'm sure DCL would want their guests to not accidentally damage a unit to the point on where it has to be replaced and/or repaired.

If I was the crew technician, I'd disable every single input port to prevent this from happening. I doubt anyone would do it maliciously, but it definitely could happen as I don't think DCL has invested in Tier1 technology in any stateroom with the exception of the Walt and Roy suites. I would actually think (and this is a guess here) that they are at max a second, if not even a third generation chip technology. Thus operating at a lower threshold for this type of damage to be incurred.

DrD
03-19-2009, 04:34 PM
the only type of tv that suffers from burn in is plasma and that was early in the life cycle of plasma technology. The TV's on board are def LCD as they do not make plasma tv's that small. Please do not misinform.

False. See above. And see: http://compreviews.about.com/od/monitors/a/LCDBurnIn.htm

I never (deliberately) misinform.

sja03a
03-19-2009, 05:50 PM
do you realize how many hundreds of hours of one persistent image it would take to burn an image into LCD or CRT displays? Plasma is the ONLY technology that suffers from any noticeable burn in and being an owner of a 55" plasma the problem is fixed by the new technology. I own all three types of tv's and frequently use them for high def gaming for extended periods of time and have never experienced burn in or damage to any extent. I left my lcd tv with my ps3 on in error just 2 weeks ago for the entire duration of my week long trip and when i came back there was no trace of burn in. Thats over 100+ hours an zero issues.

Khazid
03-19-2009, 08:04 PM
do you realize how many hundreds of hours of one persistent image it would take to burn an image into LCD or CRT displays? Plasma is the ONLY technology that suffers from any noticeable burn in and being an owner of a 55" plasma the problem is fixed by the new technology. I own all three types of tv's and frequently use them for high def gaming for extended periods of time and have never experienced burn in or damage to any extent. I left my lcd tv with my ps3 on in error just 2 weeks ago for the entire duration of my week long trip and when i came back there was no trace of burn in. Thats over 100+ hours an zero issues.I'm glad you've had such a great experience with your LCD. However; it doesn't change the fact that failure rates on LCD's do exist and there are people that experience the reported issues. Especially on off-brand and entry level models.

Either way, I think we've gotten off topic here based on the OP's original question. So if you'd like to discuss this more, feel free to PM me.