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AndrewJackson
03-16-2009, 07:14 PM
The family and I are going to WDW in a few days. This is my first trip since being diagnosed with MS. I do pretty well with it, and am taking my Avonex shots once a week. My biggest symptoms are numbness in the feet and weak knees and leg strength. Also, my feet will hurt very badly at the end of a day if I stand too much.

With that said, I would really like to enjoy the parks without a wheelchair. I worry about the looks etc. Honestly, if you looked at me you would have no idea I have a disability.

I am considering hitting the parks early, then taking a long break at the resort, probably from around 1:00 - 5:00 or so, then come back to the parks for a while. Since I will be limited to how much time I can enjoy at the parks, and the fact that standing in line all day would be painful by the end of the day, is it appropriate for me to ask for a guest assistance pass? Are they just going to tell me to get a wheelchair instead? I really do not want to do this.

I am also concerned about the looks I will get when I walk up to the ride and ask for special access. I am not sure I am ready for the rolling of the eyes, etc.

Last question... If I decided to get the guest assistance pass, what type of documentation will I need?

Cheshire Figment
03-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Hi and :welcome: to disABILITIES!

This is going to be a long answer for you, in several parts.

If you click on where it says "disABILTIES" at the top of this page it will take you to the Index. One of the top items is the "disABILTIES FAQ" which will gives lots of useful information. You will probably find Post #6 and Post #2 most useful for you.

Or, if you want an easier route, click on the link in my signature.

Note the official response when requesting a Guest Assistance Card for a mobility and/or stamina situation is the recommendation that you rent a wheelchair or ECV.

Basically a person has a certain amount of energy available to them daily. If they relax during the day the amount of energy available will increase; when they sleep at night they recharge their system,

However, when in pain energy is used up much faster than in normal conditions. If you become exhausted, with by what you have done or, more importantly, what you have done while in pain your system will not recharge to the original energy level overnight and you are starting the next day with a lower amount of energy available.

Once around the World Showcase Lagoon Promenade is more than 1¼ miles; most people tend to average 8 - 12 miles per day at WDW.

And last, please ask yourself the following questions. Here are the suggested answers to go with them.

1. Are you disabled (even temporarily)? Yes.

2. Do the people you are traveling with, such as your family, know you are disabled? Yes.

3. Do you expect to meet anyone you know during this trip who may not know you are disabled. Probably No!

4. Do you expect to meet a bunch of people who you will probably never meet again in your life? Probably yes!

5. Is there any reason at all that you should care what these people think about you? Absolutely No!!

6. Will using a wheelchair or ECV make for a better vacation for you and your family? Absolutely YES!

SueM in MN
03-16-2009, 08:13 PM
The answers to most of your questions about Guest Assistance Cards (GAC) is in post #6 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread.

This is not what you probably want to hear, but a wheelchair or an ECV does make the most sense for the type of needs you are describing.
The GAC is not a "Pass" and will not necessarily shorten the time you spend standing. It is not meant to shorten or eliminate waiting in line; just to give accommodations needed to meet needs related to a disability. It would allow you to avoid going up stairs for the few attractions with stairs and would allow you to board attractions with a moving walkway in a place where you would have more time and/or space to board. Sometimes, that means a longer wait. For example, at Small World, we often wait longer in the accessible boarding area than we would have if we had walked in the 'usual' entrance.

Many attractions involve a preshow or a wait in a 'holding area' for 10-15 minutes or more. Those are often shows that have guests 'collect' in a prehow area while another 'set' of guests is in the show. Once the first guests leave the theater, the doors open for the next set of guests who are waiting in the preshow area. Having a Guest Assistance Card will not prevent you from standing in those situations. Most of the areas have a very few or no seats at all and you have to wait in the preshow area to get into the show.
Some examples of places where you would have to stand - Guest Assistance Card or not would be:
Studio
Great Movie Ride
American Idol Experience
Sounds Dangerous
Muppet Vision 3D
Voyage of the Little Mermaid
Studio Backlot Walking Tour
Journey Into Narnia
One Man's Dream (This is a walking tour)
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror

Magic Kingdom
Railroad - there is not a preshow, but the train has to come to the station for you to board it.
Tiki Room
Hall of Presidents (currently under renovation)
Haunted Mansion
Country Bear Jamboree
Mickey's Philharmagic
Monster's Inc. Laugh Floor
Stitch's Great Escape

Epcot
Ellen's Energy Adventure
Mission Space
Test Track
Circle of Life (Movie at The Land)
Soarin'
American Adventure
Reflections of China (a 14 minute movie that has no seats, just rails to lean against)
O Canada (a 14 minute move that has no seats, just rails to lean against

Animal Kingdom
It's Tough to Be a Bug
Festival of the Lion King (you will need to wait for the next show)
Wildlife Express Train (you will need to wait for the next train - they leave every 5-7 minutes)
Flights of Wonder (there may not be a place to sit when waiting for the next show)
Finding Nemo (you will be standing during your wait for the next show)

Having a wheelchair or ECV would give you a place to sit during those kinds of attractions and would also help you cover the distances for a WDW visit. Many people don't think about how much they walk in a day at WDW, but the average is at least 3 miles per day. Many of the lines are very long distance to walk from the entrance to the actual boarding area. A GAC would not shorten the distance and the GAC is only used in lines and does nothing to help you get from place to place.

goofieslonglostsis
03-17-2009, 06:44 AM
With that said, I would really like to enjoy the parks without a wheelchair. I worry about the looks etc. Honestly, if you looked at me you would have no idea I have a disability.


Pst, don't tell anyone about this big secret. Most of us using a wheelchair don't have a tatoo on their forehead saying DISABLED. ;) :rotfl:

Seriously though; most using a wheelchair do not 'look like having a disability'. If you let your looks determine what you will and wont do in life, you will miss out on SO much! Do whatever you want and whatever you need, never mind if you fit the stereotype exterior look people might associate with that.

Think about not using the wheelchair. Yes, you will safe your 'ego'. Or probably more, you will save your own fear and perhaps even 'prejudice' of those 4 wheels. How much is that worth to you? How much is it worth to do WDW the way you want to, without having pain and fatigue hold you back more than absolutely needed? How much is it worth to do WDW without worrying you are 'keeping back' the family? How much do you think you would enjoy the day more if you're not in so much pain it blurs everything else you get in during that day?

Let people think whatever they want. They'll think anyway, so we'ld better give them something to think about. ;) Using a wheelchair does not mean you should look a certain way. It doesn't mean you are now literally convined to the chair. You don't need it at home; great! You do not even have to sit in it and keep there the whole day at WDW. You can alternate between some walking (walking behind a wheelchair might even be easier to walk) and using the chair.

I wouldn't recommend a wheelchair for this situation, though. I would recommend looking into using an ECV. Doing all of those miles in a chair is energydraining enough for those used to pushing a wheelchair around. You're not used to it, have a limited amount of energy, so I wouldn't think it's the best use to use it up on moving around. Never mind if that is walking or propelling. Think about the freedom an ECV could give you. You could do things solo if desired. You can keep up with the family. You wont have to deal with too high levels of pain. Think about the fun that doesn't get mixed up with all of that. Stick your nose up in the air :snooty: and let others, ehm, store their comments where the sun don't shine. If they have a problem with you using an ECV or wheelchair, it's just that. THEIR problem. Don't make it yours and let it influence your trip negatively.

Seriously, think about YOU, not others.

lmgaddis
03-17-2009, 06:57 AM
This was my experience going to WDW with my Mom last year.

We went last April and my Mom had just been diagnosed with MS. She decided to start her injections when we got back from Disney b/c she wasn't sure what her side effects would be.

She did not rent any sort of wheelchair or other device, I had not been to these boards yet and didn't really know that she could.

She was exhausted!! I can't stress that enough to you. I mean just bone tired! We took breaks from the parks everyday at around 2:00 . We only went back to the parks one day. She just couldn't do it. We got to the parks at around 10:00am or so. We took breaks at the parks also.

I would rent something if I were you and I would not hesitate to rent something for my Mom if she were to go back with us. She really wants to go again so this is something I have looked into for her.

Good Luck with your trip and have fun! Don't worry about what anyone else thinks. Do what is best for you and your family. Since my mom was diagnosed with MS I don't think twice about people in chairs at the parks. You just never know. No one would ever guess she has MS. I hope your shots are working well for you!

KPeveler
03-17-2009, 07:17 AM
rent a scooter - you will not be pushed in a chair all day, and will have mobility and independence.

There is no pass which will allow you to skip any lines, and you will have to walk about 8 miles a day even with a GAC (even if you walk through a line, without waiting, you still have to walk that whole distance).

I am in the process of accepting a wheelchair in daily life (I do not have MS, but my symptoms mimic it exactly except for the vision problems), so I know how difficult it can be. however, sometimes it is necessary to enjoy life. Disney is one of those times.

Remember, there is a difference between surviving Disney and ENJOYING Disney.

If you go to guest services and tell them your issues are with mobility and endurance, you will be told to rent a wheelchair or ECV, since no pass can shorten the distances between the rides...

bonybroad
03-17-2009, 08:12 AM
I have MS, also.
I've been diagnosed for 5 years, but this last year has been really kicking my butt. (Darn white blood cells! I wish they would calm down!)
That being said, I have been to Disney 6 times since diagnosis. I always go in spring because of the heat issues. This time we are going in June.:scared1: I have a cooling vest that will really help with that aspect. If you don't have one, I recommend calling your local NMSS chapter and see if they will send you one. Mine was free. Also, rest is imperative, as you know. There are benches scattering throughout the parks, and I park myself at one of those every chance I get! My husband has convinced me that I need my cane for this trip, even though I hate it.
You know what you can handle, and what you can't. This diease is so unpredictable, and you know heat makes it so much worse.
Good luck with the Avonex, and have a good trip, no matter what anyone else thinks. Our white blood cells have turned against us, and there is nothing we have to explain to anyone!:hug:

tiggeraholic
03-17-2009, 09:15 AM
I also have MS and was diagnosed in 2000. I am not on injections but on the once a month infusion, Tysabri. I went to WDW twice last year, once during Spring Break and then in November. I always get a GAC. I just save my letter from the MD and my last GAC and no questions are asked. I wouldn't worry about anyone questioning your "invisible" disability. I have had one person question me in the last 8 years and he was a teenager and my husband quickly put him in his place.

Good luck and have fun! :grouphug:

bonybroad
03-17-2009, 09:30 AM
Okay, now I want to discuss a little..:)
I've been on Avonex, Copax, Tysabri, IV steroids every month, and now I'm waiting for IVIGG. So far nothing has worked.:headache:
Isn't it crazy that it so different in different people?

tiggeraholic
03-17-2009, 09:35 AM
Avonex made me feel like I had the flu all the time. Copaxone gave me welts and they would itch really bad. I tried all kinds of remedys to make it stop but couldn't find anything that worked on me. I have been on Tysabri for over two years now and it is the best fit for me right now. I haven't had a flare up in over two years and I love just having to worry about my meds once a month! I also have very good insurance that pays all but a $15 copay each month. :cool1: :woohoo:

bonybroad
03-17-2009, 09:51 AM
Avonex made me sick, AND it didn't work.
Copax was no good, either.
Tysabri - well, it caused some type of allergic reaction where my throat swelled shut and I got hives and they had to pull the IV and shoot me up with Benadryl.
IV steroids didn't do anything except make me gain weight and make me crazy.:rotfl2:
Mine just WONT remit!

Tiggerish
03-17-2009, 10:48 AM
Please consider renting a ECV from an off site vendor and having it all the time. I have also been "blessed" with MS and would have had to spend the majority of my time in the hotel room at WDW without an EVC. It was exhausting just to walk from the room to the food court area or the bus stops. I needed the EVC even though I was fully functional at home at that time. But at WDW the distances are deceptive and the heat creeps up on you.

I decided that I did not care about the "looks" because I was never going to see those people again.

Your family will have a much better time if you are able to keep up with them and not always looking for a place to sit down or saying, "go ahead and do that without me, I will wait here on this bench." I know this from experience.

Tara619
03-17-2009, 07:21 PM
See my similar post http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2101925

I am 27 and look healthy too. I can get around just fine with barely a limp in my normal every day life. About 1 hour of shopping is all I can handle, though. I KNOW for a fact that I will not be able to survive more than 2 hours of our 7 day vacation w/o some help. I have accepted the fact that I need to rent an ECV thanks to the wonderful DISers here.

You're spending all this money on a vacation, do what you need to do to enjoy it. Don't worry about what others think. Would you rather be miserable the whole time just to avoid an eye roll from a rude, ignorant person? Or would you rather enjoy yourself?

I rented a ECV from Walker Mobility. Hopefully I don't run over anyone!

I've come a long way since that first post, huh DISers? :worship:

AndrewJackson
03-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Thanks to everyone for the advice. You can tell there some anxiety regarding this. I especially don't want to embarrass my two teenagers.

In terms of the medication.... I experienced severe flu like symptoms the first couple of injections with the Avonex. After that, they started to subside. Now there is hardly any side effects, and I have had no additional flare ups.

bonybroad
03-17-2009, 07:46 PM
Thanks to everyone for the advice. You can tell there some anxiety regarding this. I especially don't want to embarrass my two teenagers.

In terms of the medication.... I experienced severe flu like symptoms the first couple of injections with the Avonex. After that, they started to subside. Now there is hardly any side effects, and I have had no additional flare ups.

I am sure your teenagers will understand. And if they don't tell them you won't carry their stuff on your ECV.:rotfl: I am so glad that the avonex settled things down for you. Remember to stay cool, and have lots and lots of fun!

Cheshire Figment
03-17-2009, 08:17 PM
Thanks to everyone for the advice. You can tell there some anxiety regarding this. I especially don't want to embarrass my two teenagers.
I'm sorry, but your two teenagers are automatically embarrassed by your very existence and being with them in public. Using an ECV cannot make it any worse.

goofieslonglostsis
03-18-2009, 08:33 AM
I'm sorry, but your two teenagers are automatically embarrassed by your very existence and being with them in public. Using an ECV cannot make it any worse.

Amen! It's a teenagers job to be embarrassed about their parents and the parents job to embarras them. :rotfl:


But besides that; think about the benefit it will do the teenagers to have you not in a lot more pain and exhausted. Experience WDW in the best possible way, doesn't that sound like a ball?

Or ask yourself the question "what if it was one of your teenagers that had the MS instead of you?" Wouldn't you want them to get the ECV and focus on enjoying themselves instead of having pain and exhaustion rule them? Wouldn't you tell them to act upon what they need, not what others think? Wouldn't you tell them you love them, never mind if they walk, propell, drive, crawl or whatever? Why not give yourself that same love and compassion? You do not need to hold yourself to a silly 'higher standard' than any of your loved ones. :grouphug:


*yep, if need be a little emotional blackmail using loved ones is always permitted if it is the one last push one needs to accept they might benefit themselves from using an aid, do it to myself also*

Mindy5767
07-05-2009, 10:52 PM
Hi there. An able bodied mom here to get information on ECV's for my MIL. She said her physical therapy really helped and says she won't need one (she's had double knee replacement and is 74). But she hasn't been to the Magic Kingdom since 72!! She has NO idea! She won't rent one in advance (cause she doesn't need it). I just hope that we can get one if she decides that its too much walking for her. She says she now can walk 3 miles a day. That's great!! But Disney is way more miles, plus its hot (she lives in Waco) and humid. We shall see. I've now got some information that i'll need just in case.

BTW... WHO in their right mind would give a second look to an ECV at Disney?? They're all over the place. and No matter what you're in or not in, ECV, wheelchair, your feet... you're teenagers will be embarrassed by you. That is what they do! Mine included. Give them something to REALLY be embarrassed by, buy a Yeti or Stitch hat and wear it!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Tiggerish
07-06-2009, 07:19 PM
Mindy, take the telephone numbers for the ECV rental places that is in the FAQ section with you. I know that Walker was able to get a scooter to the hotel by the early afternoon when called in the morning when a stubborn person came to her senses after one day of misery. That way, if your MIL changes her mind she could get a multiple day rental and use it at her resort also. After getting worn out at the Magic Kingdom, I swear that evil pirates had move my room five times further away from the bus stop while I was in the park.

Mindy5767
07-06-2009, 08:41 PM
Mindy, take the telephone numbers for the ECV rental places that is in the FAQ section with you. I know that Walker was able to get a scooter to the hotel by the early afternoon when called in the morning when a stubborn person came to her senses after one day of misery. That way, if your MIL changes her mind she could get a multiple day rental and use it at her resort also. After getting worn out at the Magic Kingdom, I swear that evil pirates had move my room five times further away from the bus stop while I was in the park.

I have copied it to my Microsoft Onenote Disney Notebook on my laptop. When my MIL decides she's ready to rent one, we can call any company that can meet our needs. My DH programmed the one at the Boardwalk, Buena Vista Rentals into his cell phone. So, we're ready!

Thanks for your help.:idea:

Capt. Barbosa
07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
DW has MS and our first trip to WDW after her diagnosis she decided to tough it out, well our 4 trips since we have always rented an ECV from off site and she (and we) enjoys our trips so much more.

violentlyserene
09-10-2009, 02:26 PM
What a helpful thread! I don't have MS but do have other mobility and endurance problems that have me seriously considering getting a wheelchair. Right now I'm leaning towards just reducing extraneous walking as much as possible and sitting on the ground in line if need be. It's good to know there are others with similar problems.

Mindy5767, I'm using a onenote notebook for planning as well! It's only got two pages in it so far but I think it's going to be invaluable for flexible planning.

Schmeck
09-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Two things to note - I don't remember ever having to stand still in line and wait for any attractions other than the ones SueM listed, the ones with pre-show holding areas. Everything else was at least a slow crawl.

Second - even if you have a GAC, this does not guarantee that you get there in a shorter distance (FP lines tend to run parallel to the standby lines) and a GAC is not intended to get you on the ride any faster. Actually, depending on the people ahead of you with GACs, and those needing to wait for a special ride vehicle, you might have to wait even longer to get on.

So, a second/third the motion that anyone not having the stamina to be in a queue at WDW should really get an ECV or wheelchair. You do far more walking between attractions than in them, and you're doing nothing but using up precious energy and time with your family if you have to stop on a bench every 20 minutes to get relief.

tiggspring
09-10-2009, 09:57 PM
AndrewJackson. I understand completely regarding not wanting a WC or EVC. I have severe Fibromyalgia. My greatest fear was getting to WDW and being in bed for all of it. While I understand those who recomend ECV's and would have used one if I had to, like you I did NOT want to do it. I wanted my trip to be an escape and seeing a ECV waiting for me at the exit would have been a reminder of my disability after every ride. For one week I wanted to be "Normal". Here is what I did. Hope it helps.

Since you have picked a good time of year from crowds you have that on your side. I highly recomend Ridemx. It allowed me to customize a plan and in May I waited on average 5 min per ride. including rides like Peter Pan. I hear tour guide mike is good too. I was done packing two weeks before and did absolutely nothing the week before my trip. For me that ment staying in bed most of that week. Once at WDW I utilized my meds to the max and followed my plan closely making sure to take breaks at the room in the afternoon. We spacificly picked a monorail resort so I would not need to get in/out of the car and walk very often. When we did need to park I used my handicap plate even though I dont look disabled going in comming out is often a different story.

In the parks it ended up most of the time I would walk less that 5 minutes, stand in line 5 minutes and be on a ride or in a show for 5-20 minutes. This was great for my pain/fatigue/numbness in legs because I never did anything long enough to cause problems. We were on the dinning plan so that was well planned too. I did get a GAC and twice when waiting in line for a show I nearly used it beacuse we had to wait 20 minutes and they insisted we stand when it started to fill up. But this happened only twice out of 7 days.

I will admit once I got home I crashed for a week and had residule issues for many more. For me it was worth it to have a week where my Fibro wasnt frount and center. Where I could just be a mom. But do have a backup plan for an ECV it easily could have gone the other way if the weather had not been perfect for me the week I went. Good luck
Sending painfree vibes:goodvibes and pixie dust your waypixiedust:

goofieslonglostsis
09-11-2009, 03:44 AM
What a helpful thread! I don't have MS but do have other mobility and endurance problems that have me seriously considering getting a wheelchair. Right now I'm leaning towards just reducing extraneous walking as much as possible and sitting on the ground in line if need be. It's good to know there are others with similar problems.


Maybe a rollator is the way to go for you? It would allow you to keep walking (you'ld have to :rotfl::lmao: ), yet can make the walking lighter because you are able to lean/hold onto it. Also reduces risks of falling. Best thing though; there are all kinds out there with a seat on it!! This way, you can walk and if need be; sit down.

Tosie
09-11-2009, 06:30 AM
Avonex made me sick, AND it didn't work.
Copax was no good, either.
Tysabri - well, it caused some type of allergic reaction where my throat swelled shut and I got hives and they had to pull the IV and shoot me up with Benadryl.
IV steroids didn't do anything except make me gain weight and make me crazy.:rotfl2:
Mine just WONT remit!


Dh uses Beta Seron. He did Copax and then had the WORST exacerbation of his life (right after a WDW trip one October). With the Beta he wakes up with good days and bad days BUT he really has not progressed much after 12 years.

To the OP: do what you need to do to have a wonderful vacation. I think those of us who live with "invisible diseases" and/or those who have them are much more in tune when we see someone in the parks who "looks healthy." Don't worry about what the other ignoramuses (or is it ignorami?) are thinking.

Have FUN and enjoy your family and allow them to enjoy YOU!

ilovetivo
05-02-2010, 09:46 PM
Basically a person has a certain amount of energy available to them daily. If they relax during the day the amount of energy available will increase; when they sleep at night they recharge their system,

However, when in pain energy is used up much faster than in normal conditions. If you become exhausted, with by what you have done or, more importantly, what you have done while in pain your system will not recharge to the original energy level overnight and you are starting the next day with a lower amount of energy available.


Thank you for this! Wonderfully stated. I may quote you from time to time ")

Minnie&Nana
05-03-2010, 06:27 AM
MS can be a stinker. I've had it for 33 yrs, but you would not know it to see me. Meds haven't worked due to severe reactions, so it's been a challenge, but am very grateful not to be in a wheelchair.

Have not yet rented a WC or ECV, but if we had to visit between mid March and late October would definitely rent one. There have been times when I wish I'd rented an ECV, but I don't drive and not sure I'd be able to maneuver one safely. With your situation, I hope you will consider renting one.

When we first found out about the GAC, I didn't even want one of those because I worried what the CM's would think - now first thing is to stop by MK City Hall - the GAC makes a world of difference. I never have to worry about stairs or moving walkways - rarely does a CM give me a questioning look - but if so, I simply say I have MS and cannot handle stairs. Also, on a few attractions I must ask for the seat with a teeny bit more leg room b/c it is painful without even that little bit of extra room. Some attractions I no longer ride - Peter Pan for example, as the moving walk cannot be stopped during most of the day.

We always make it to park opening and leave between noon and 1 p.m. to go back to the resort. Without a midday rest I'd not be able to do much - we also do not stay late into the evening and never stay for IllumiNations as the crowds and the long walk back to the monorail/buses are very difficult. This is easier now that my children are grown and I travel with friends.

Resort reservations Special Needs dept have been wonderfully helpful in blocking a room and having my needs taken care of - even though I do not have a wheelchair, a roll in shower is sometimes necessary now, but they can also block a room with bathroom hand rails and arrange for a shower/tub seat, if needed. They also arrange for a deep cleaning since MS has seriously effected my immune system.

Please remember to take Park time in small amounts and no matter what, do not push yourself at all to do more, stay longer etc. REST is essential, which includes sitting on a bench and people watching (if no ECV). It can make such a difference. Since I cannot do any of the "thrill" attractions, it allows several times during the day to sit/rest while friends/family enjoy those attractions.

Have a wonderful trip! :goodvibes

maryserv
05-14-2010, 12:12 AM
The family and I are going to WDW in a few days. This is my first trip since being diagnosed with MS. I do pretty well with it, and am taking my Avonex shots once a week. My biggest symptoms are numbness in the feet and weak knees and leg strength. Also, my feet will hurt very badly at the end of a day if I stand too much.

With that said, I would really like to enjoy the parks without a wheelchair. I worry about the looks etc. Honestly, if you looked at me you would have no idea I have a disability.

I am considering hitting the parks early, then taking a long break at the resort, probably from around 1:00 - 5:00 or so, then come back to the parks for a while. Since I will be limited to how much time I can enjoy at the parks, and the fact that standing in line all day would be painful by the end of the day, is it appropriate for me to ask for a guest assistance pass? Are they just going to tell me to get a wheelchair instead? I really do not want to do this.

I am also concerned about the looks I will get when I walk up to the ride and ask for special access. I am not sure I am ready for the rolling of the eyes, etc.

Last question... If I decided to get the guest assistance pass, what type of documentation will I need?

I also have MS. I have tried WDW various ways and always end up going to get a GAC. For the following reasons - fatigue, pain in hands and feet (made worse by fatigue), heat intolerance (makes everything else worse). Last year was my first year to use ice vests. They worked great, but were heavy. Let me know if you want more info on those. I did end up having a"discussion" with a Cast Member at Epcot over the type of GAC I received upon request (It was different from previous times. Last year I also found that 50 spf sunscreen did help with the sun-related energy zapping. That was a nice surprise!

Good luck, holler if you have questions! Mary

bouncy54
05-14-2010, 12:35 AM
I posted this a few weeks ago. I wrote it to encourage others who are thinking twice about renting a scooter or WC. :flower3:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2402174

tinkerfan1
05-14-2010, 07:59 PM
I also have MS. It is nothing to be embarrassed about. I know, easy to say. Last time we went was in November. I had asked about rollators at the time and decided against that. I tried one before going and it just didn't work for me. We ended up taking a wheelchair and leaving it in the room. However, many days we would end up renting a wheelchair once we were in the park and it was wonderful! My family did not mind pushing me around at all. They are used to it now so we may certainly do that again. My walking is worse over the past several months than it had been the previous few years since being diagnosed. The thing with MS is it is so unpredictable. I made it a couple days on our vacation and walked pretty good. Then other days, I couldn't walk at all. And, like you said, to anybody who didn't know me, they couldn't tell what was wrong. DISABLED was not typed on my forehead. But, who cares! I have been on Avonex, Tysabri, and most recently Copaxone. I am now in limbo while awaiting some blood tests. Good luck with your MS. I hope you get it under control. Have a great time on your vacation, too!!

Punchy
05-22-2010, 05:07 PM
I went to WDW in 2008 and in 2009.

The first trip I decided to tough it out and walk. It was very stupid of me. I spent a lot of money on that trip, and I spent it going "only that much further until the lamp post" or desperately scouting for benches.

The second trip, I walked the first day, then rented an ECV for the rest of the trip. My fun level went up 75%!

For me, the heat is worse than anything. Then my walking starts to fail. I end up in a mental haze, unable to enjoy anything.

My family loved it too. I carried their stuff when they were tired. I zipped ahead to check ride times or to secure our ADR. They made me go buy ice creams and drinks while they rested in the shade. I felt useful.

And since you are mobile otherwise, getting on rides etc. isn't a problem.

My four pieces of advice for people with MS:

- rent an ECV
- stay on the monorail
- take afternoon naps and a swim or
- book lunchtime ADRs instead of dinner