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lovesparkdisney
03-15-2009, 12:08 AM
Does anyone know if there is a casino on the new Disney ships.

jajomo0118
03-15-2009, 12:24 AM
Does anyone know if there is a casino on the new Disney ships.

I have no idea...and am neutral either way...but can't wait for what people have to say about it...popcorn::

Mickeyhugger
03-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Does anyone know if there is a casino on the new Disney ships.


I sure hope so:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

lavawalker
03-15-2009, 01:51 AM
I sure hope not!

DisneyCruiser83
03-15-2009, 01:54 AM
I sure hope not!

Me too, I would be really disappointed if there were a casino onboard. I will gladly pay higher prices, if it means avoiding a casino!

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
03-15-2009, 02:15 AM
I'd really rather they didn't (for a variety of reasons) but if they DO, I won't get all upset about it. It's not like I'm worried about blowing money in it- but I want a cheaper price for the cruise then... because I can go on other cruiselines a lot cheaper that have that type of "atmosphere" (that I keep hearing about) -on ships that have casinos.

(but yes, I'm fine with paying more and not having it)

I don't see it happening though. Doubtful.

lillygator
03-15-2009, 03:19 AM
please no.

amystevekai&bump
03-15-2009, 03:35 AM
I'd really rather they didn't (for a variety of reasons) but if they DO, I won't get all upset about it. It's not like I'm worried about blowing money in it- but I want a cheaper price for the cruise then... because I can go on other cruiselines a lot cheaper that have that type of "atmosphere" (that I keep hearing about) -on ships that have casinos.

(but yes, I'm fine with paying more and not having it)

I don't see it happening though. Doubtful.



::yes:: ::yes:: - what they said!!:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

UK-Simon
03-15-2009, 04:56 AM
Given the nature of the Disney Cruise I would be stunned if there was a casino onboard!

Cruise
03-15-2009, 05:05 AM
I'm guessing probably no... but, even if they did, I'm also guessing it would be set up differently than other cruise lines.

From what I've seen on other lines, the casino is set up so that you basically have to walk through it to get to any other area of the ship. They want you in there spending money. I'm guessing if DCL ever put one in, it would be at one end of one deck...so completely avoidable by anyone who didn't want to use it.

That being said, it would take up a lot of space, resources, and cash to keep it running. And since DCL has generally been able to fill up with people willing to forgo a casino on board, it might not make financial sense to devote the resources to it since they may not get much traffic through it.

CTXRover
03-15-2009, 07:05 AM
From Tom McAlpin, prior President of DCL, the new ships will definetely not have a casino. This was asked by another cruiser during a Castaway Club meeting on the first Mediterranean cruise in 2007, which Mr. McAlpin was on. Obviously I don't know if anything has changed in the past 2 years, but at that time, it was a definite no.

Wunderkind
03-15-2009, 07:44 AM
From Tom McAlpin, prior President of DCL, the new ships will definetely not have a casino. This was asked by another cruiser during a Castaway Club meeting on the first Mediterranean cruise in 2007, which Mr. McAlpin was on. Obviously I don't know if anything has changed in the past 2 years, but at that time, it was a definite no.

^^^^ Whew! I'm glad that's all cleared up. I don't think having a casino onboard DCL is consistent with their cruising philosophy.

orlandothebeagle
03-15-2009, 09:38 AM
Please no:sad2: :sad2:

HappyGrumpy
03-15-2009, 09:45 AM
If people want to gamble go to CC or:thumbsup2 Vegas! I am hoping that they will keep bingo as their primary "casino" and maybe create a spot on the new ships so you do not have to travel all over the ship everyday! Only time will tell!

mindy327
03-15-2009, 09:52 AM
My two cents?! No way. Disney is know for their "family" atmosphere. Las Vegas is not. I dont gamble so either way, I wont use it. But if they did decide to do one, I would have to imagine it wouldnt get USED as much as other cruiseline casinos. Just because of the demographics Disney goes after.

BobandLee
03-15-2009, 10:20 AM
I would say no. If I had a vote, it would be no. Doesn't really matter to me.
My experience with cruise ship casinos has been, you might as well throw the money overboard.:lmao:

Now, since Tom McAlpin is no longer in charge, there is always the possibility that a casino may be there.:confused3
After all, the ships do need to make profits for the shareholders.

BethA
03-15-2009, 10:40 AM
why are people so opposed to the casino? I am not a gambler, but have spent a few dollars on slots on other cruise lines. I did not notice a bad atmosphere around the casino. Just because it is a family cruise does not mean people spend every second with their kids--some people have their children in the clubs all day-even for meals.

I guess I just don;t get it-why are bars okay, but a casino is seen as such a bad thing--I suppose I'll get some negative posts for asking, but if that is what makes DCL way more money, I'd rather see the casino.

HappyGrumpy
03-15-2009, 11:45 AM
I am alott like the old Adam Ant son from the 80's "Dont Drink Don't Smoke what do ya do?" I Disney that's what I do:cool1: I don't gamble either and have NO desire to do the Vegas thing. Disney is the perfect solution for my husband and I. I could care less if you have drinks at dinner and want to go to a designated area and have a smoke but I don't want you sloppy drunk and angry because you just lost your butt playing poker.

I am highly allergic to smoke and when they walked us through the Atlantis casino I was not in there 2 minutes with the stale smoke and was already reaching for some benadryl!:sick:

I went on one carnival ship "The Triumph" it was a 5 year old ship that looked 15 and I swore off cruises after that. We took a chance with Disney and they "converted us" back from the dark side!:) Casino' add a very undesirable element.

Long Live DCL without Casinos:thumbsup2

kcashner
03-15-2009, 11:49 AM
I am alott like the old Adam Ant son from the 80's "Dont Drink Don't Smoke what do ya do?" I Disney that's what I do:cool1: I don't gamble either and have NO desire to do the Vegas thing. Disney is the perfect solution for my husband and I. I could care less if you have drinks at dinner and want to go to a designated area and have a smoke but I don't want you sloppy drunk and angry because you just lost your butt playing poker.

I am highly allergic to smoke and when they walked us through the Atlantis casino I was not in there 2 minutes with the stale smoke and was already reaching for some benadryl!:sick:

I went on one carnival ship "The Triumph" it was a 5 year old ship that looked 15 and I swore off cruises after that. We took a chance with Disney and they "converted us" back from the dark side!:) Casino' add a very undesirable element.

Long Live DCL without Casinos:thumbsup2

I'll echo all of the above. I have no idea how much I've spent on DCL cruises....but I can assure you that if they put in a casino, it will be the last they'll see of MY money.

BethA
03-15-2009, 11:58 AM
I do not drink or smoke either, and hate to be around smoking, but are you saying that everyone that gambles also smokes and gets drunk?
My mother-who is 76-loves slot machines, and has never smoked, does not drink, but at night would enjoy going to play the slots-on DCL the late evening entertainment does not exist. Why is eveyone so judgemental? I doubt DCL will draw people that cruise just to drink or gamble, but the casino would offer some other form of entertainment-we have been to family resorts that have a slots only casino and have not seen people going crazy because of their loss.

HappyGrumpy
03-15-2009, 12:03 PM
I am sure she is a sweet and lovely women! You double the capacity on the ship and she will be the exception to the rule. Spice up the Bingo games on the ship a bit keep the slots in Vegas and Atlantic City!

Mickeyhugger
03-15-2009, 12:11 PM
I do not drink or smoke either, and hate to be around smoking, but are you saying that everyone that gambles also smokes and gets drunk?
My mother-who is 76-loves slot machines, and has never smoked, does not drink, but at night would enjoy going to play the slots-on DCL the late evening entertainment does not exist. Why is eveyone so judgemental? I doubt DCL will draw people that cruise just to drink or gamble, but the casino would offer some other form of entertainment-we have been to family resorts that have a slots only casino and have not seen people going crazy because of their loss.

:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 exactly:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

tvguy
03-15-2009, 12:16 PM
My mother-who is 76-loves slot machines, and has never smoked, does not drink, but at night would enjoy going to play the slots-on DCL the late evening entertainment does not exist..

Dead on about the lack of late evening entertainment. With late seating shows BEFORE dinner, walking around the ship after late seating dinner (about 10:30 pm) was almost like a ghost town. Exceptions of course would be the night of the Golden Mickey's when they have an encore showing at 10:30 pm, or on our New Years cruise, although all the partiers disappeared about 12:10 am when we were just getting warmed up!!

Never been to Disney World, do they serve alcohol anywhere other than the hotels there? I was a bit controversial out west when California Adventure opened in 2001 and they not only had a winery, but sold beer inside the park.

HappyGrumpy
03-15-2009, 12:20 PM
Was not aware that boundaries, standards and an opinion made me and some of other community members judgemental! Thank Goodness we are in America and on a Disboard where ALL are welcome!:thumbsup2

Kim&Chris
03-15-2009, 12:40 PM
I hope they don't put casinos in the new ships.

If I want to go on a ship with a casino, I'll pay much, much less and go on a Carnival Cruise.

I pay more for Disney because I love the family-oriented feeling on the ships. To me, "casino" and "Disney" don't belong together.

dvc4life
03-15-2009, 12:44 PM
Dead on about the lack of late evening entertainment. With late seating shows BEFORE dinner, walking around the ship after late seating dinner (about 10:30 pm) was almost like a ghost town. Exceptions of course would be the night of the Golden Mickey's when they have an encore showing at 10:30 pm, or on our New Years cruise, although all the partiers disappeared about 12:10 am when we were just getting warmed up!!

Never been to Disney World, do they serve alcohol anywhere other than the hotels there? I was a bit controversial out west when California Adventure opened in 2001 and they not only had a winery, but sold beer inside the park.


They serve alcohol at all parks except the Magic Kingdom. EPCOT serves just about everything from Margarita's to Wine.

orlandothebeagle
03-15-2009, 12:48 PM
why are people so opposed to the casino? I am not a gambler, but have spent a few dollars on slots on other cruise lines. I did not notice a bad atmosphere around the casino. Just because it is a family cruise does not mean people spend every second with their kids--some people have their children in the clubs all day-even for meals.

I guess I just don;t get it-why are bars okay, but a casino is seen as such a bad thing--I suppose I'll get some negative posts for asking, but if that is what makes DCL way more money, I'd rather see the casino.
I am not that opposed to it, just dont care for it, but it is a free country,I would not go so being a bit selfish as I dont want it to take up room on the ship.
I am alott like the old Adam Ant son from the 80's "Dont Drink Don't Smoke what do ya do?" I Disney that's what I do:cool1: I don't gamble either and have NO desire to do the Vegas thing. Disney is the perfect solution for my husband and I. I could care less if you have drinks at dinner and want to go to a designated area and have a smoke but I don't want you sloppy drunk and angry because you just lost your butt playing poker.

I am highly allergic to smoke and when they walked us through the Atlantis casino I was not in there 2 minutes with the stale smoke and was already reaching for some benadryl!:sick:

I went on one carnival ship "The Triumph" it was a 5 year old ship that looked 15 and I swore off cruises after that. We took a chance with Disney and they "converted us" back from the dark side!:) Casino' add a very undesirable element.

Long Live DCL without Casinos:thumbsup2
To be fair not everybody gets angry when they loose, in fact my dd expects to loose and still enjoys it, everybody to themselves.

dvc4life
03-15-2009, 12:52 PM
As for the casino, I really hope they don't put one on the new ships. We are not gamblers, so it is not a draw for us to cruise just because there is a casino on board. To me, Disney means family. And a casino is not family oriented. Will I not cruise Disney if they put a casino on board? No. I love the Disney Ships, the staff, the atmosphere, etc. We have cruised only one other cruise line, Carnival, and was not impressed. They had a casino but we just walked through it. So, if we do get a vote for a casino, my vote is NO.

5lilfish
03-15-2009, 01:09 PM
I don't have a strong opinion either way. If they had a Casino, I would enjoy it. If not, I do hope they offer more evening entertainment. My kids like to stay in the clubs until midnight. My DH and I have trouble finding things to do. It's basically the hot tub or Cove Cafe (or the rare trivia offering). We're not nightclub people and we aren't drinkers.

I do have to laugh at people that say it will ruin the atmospehere....especially people that have never been on another cruise line. We've taken the kids on 3 cruises on other lines with casinos. The kids have never stepped foot in a casino. You don't need to walk through one to get anywhere. As a matter of fact, they're fairly tucked away (especially on the 2 Royal cruises we've been on). I'm not even sure the kids noticed them. Plus, Disney manages to keep the family environment despite having Many bars onboard. I'm sure they'd find a way to keep a casino tucked away in an adult section if they decided to put one on the new ships.


Jess

HappyGrumpy
03-15-2009, 01:17 PM
Ok so I know I am new to this but what does winning or loosing have to with this thread?

We are all expressing opinion right? I mean we are allowed to disagree right?

Winning and loosing? What?:confused3

Inkmahm
03-15-2009, 01:23 PM
I don't have a strong opinion either way. If they had a Casino, I would enjoy it. If not, I do hope they offer more evening entertainment. My kids like to stay in the clubs until midnight. My DH and I have trouble finding things to do. It's basically the hot tub or Cove Cafe (or the rare trivia offering). We're not nightclub people and we aren't drinkers.

I do have to laugh at people that say it will ruin the atmospehere....especially people that have never been on another cruise line. We've taken the kids on 3 cruises on other lines with casinos. The kids have never stepped foot in a casino. You don't need to walk through one to get anywhere. As a matter of fact, they're fairly tucked away (especially on the 2 Royal cruises we've been on). I'm not even sure the kids noticed them. Plus, Disney manages to keep the family environment despite having Many bars onboard. I'm sure they'd find a way to keep a casino tucked away in an adult section if they decided to put one on the new ships.


Jess Same here. I've been on Princess ship where they have casinos and for the fun of it, I've played the slots for $10 (that I knew I would lose.) I can take or leave the casinos but it wouldn't bother me if there was one on the ship. The casinos were not in a place where I had to walk through them to get to other parts of the ship, either.

piscesborn
03-15-2009, 07:12 PM
From Tom McAlpin, prior President of DCL, the new ships will definetely not have a casino. This was asked by another cruiser during a Castaway Club meeting on the first Mediterranean cruise in 2007, which Mr. McAlpin was on. Obviously I don't know if anything has changed in the past 2 years, but at that time, it was a definite no.

Its highly doubtful DCL has changed its stance on that aspect of the ship building. DCL is designed for families and I cant see how that would promote a "family atmosphere"

I hope DCL NEVER puts a casino on their ships.

wdwwishes
03-15-2009, 07:17 PM
My guess would be no. Casinos don't seem to fit in with Disney.

Disney Fans
03-15-2009, 07:21 PM
There has been this question several times and I think overall Disney will not do that. Disney wants to be family friendly and to take up space for slot machines and such, I don't think they would do that,I think they would add an ice rink or more types of sports and family fun!:goodvibes

Lets face it ships with Casinos are a dime a dozen and Disney isn't not that.;)

mickeymel
03-15-2009, 07:22 PM
I watched a special on the DCL on travel channel last month and they did mention that casinos were not something DCL was interested in pursuing. It gave a few sentence explanation, but basically wasn't something they were at this time considering.

Dreamsoftravel
03-15-2009, 07:34 PM
My vote is no for casinos. Not that I am against them, it is just not what I look for on a Disney cruise. As stated previously in this thread, if they did have casinos on the new ships, I would hope that it is not something you have to walk through to get to another part of the ship.

lovesparkdisney
03-15-2009, 09:51 PM
My reason for asking this question is because I would like to take my wife and do the TransAtlantic cruise. If I am at sea for 7 days I would like the entertainment of a casino. I enjoy the Disney cruises so I wanted to find out if this was an option. After reading some posts I am a little surprized maybe I am in the minority but some of my fondest memories growing up involved playing cards with my Dad and Grandma. And yes we played for money! 2cent antee poker and as I became an adult we went to casinos from time to time, lost money and enjoyed the time together. Winning was fun but didn't happen very often, but if you bring what you can afford to lose you can just chalk it up to a fun night of entertainment.

orlandothebeagle
03-16-2009, 06:14 AM
My reason for asking this question is because I would like to take my wife and do the TransAtlantic cruise. If I am at sea for 7 days I would like the entertainment of a casino. I enjoy the Disney cruises so I wanted to find out if this was an option. After reading some posts I am a little surprized maybe I am in the minority but some of my fondest memories growing up involved playing cards with my Dad and Grandma. And yes we played for money! 2cent antee poker and as I became an adult we went to casinos from time to time, lost money and enjoyed the time together. Winning was fun but didn't happen very often, but if you bring what you can afford to lose you can just chalk it up to a fun night of entertainment.

At least it wasnt for clothing:rotfl:

rahrah
03-16-2009, 07:45 AM
Space is limited on a ship, so if a casino is in, something else is out.

I would rather see the space used for children or family activities. Maybe even teen activities, though that is really hard to do well (laser tag anyone?)

My wife and I are adult cruisers and one of the things we like about the Disney cruises is that the kids are not bored and whining. This makes things more pleasant for everyone.

5lilfish
03-16-2009, 08:13 AM
Space is limited on a ship, so if a casino is in, something else is out.


I could handle one less Bar.

Jess

jiminyC_fan
03-16-2009, 04:52 PM
We are adult cruisers cruising without children. My vote would be NO for a casino on a DCL ship. If a person "needs" gambling for entertainment then perhaps a family oriented ship isn't for them. We took the first PC cruise and never once got bored. They offer so much to keep a person busy. DCL isn't known for being a boozing party gambling cruiseline. That is the draw for us and I hope it stays that way.

only1mouse
03-16-2009, 06:39 PM
Does anyone know if there is a casino on the new Disney ships.

Hope not! I think this would be so unlike Disney.

BobandLee
03-16-2009, 07:54 PM
As I stated before, if I had a vote it would be no.

Having said that, one of the recurring arguments against a casino is that it is "unlike Disney". Remember though, Walt was against alcohol and there seems to plenty of that onboard.

5lilfish
03-16-2009, 09:05 PM
We are adult cruisers cruising without children. My vote would be NO for a casino on a DCL ship. If a person "needs" gambling for entertainment then perhaps a family oriented ship isn't for them. We took the first PC cruise and never once got bored. They offer so much to keep a person busy. DCL isn't known for being a boozing party gambling cruiseline. That is the draw for us and I hope it stays that way.

I have to disagree with this.

I do not "need" gambling, but I do enjoy it. Considering that I have 5 children, I don't see why the fact that I enjoy throwing a $10 bill into a slot maching, means that I should reconsider taking a family vacation.

I'm glad you never got bored. I wouldn't say that I was bored, but I did find that there was a lack of entertainment options (that I was interested in...we don't drink and we aren't into night clubs) in the evening. As I said, the casino isn't a sticking point for me, but I wouldn't be against it. If it was there, we'd use it.

Jess

sopandbass
03-16-2009, 10:00 PM
I agree that at first glance it seems a casino wouldn't go with the Disney image. But, to be blunt, neither does an underage pop star with a 20-year-old live-in boyfriend who runs around in his underwear (although I'm sure he does that to rehearse his modeling skills) or any of the assortment of Disney starlets who've gone off the deep end. And little girls are suppose to have these Disney personalities as role models? Walt must be rolling. So, that being said, why would anyone be shocked if a casino ended up on a Disney ship?

MagicalPins
03-16-2009, 11:44 PM
Just my thoughts here, everyone keeps tossing around the word Family. Most of the time when people say it here, it seems Family = Kids. It was always my opinion that Family = Everyone. Kids, teens, adults, grandparents, ect. From my experience, there does appear to be a lack of entertainment for adults compared to everything that offered for kids.

If Disney did have a casino on one of their ships, I would be willing to pay more of a premium for the expanded offerings for the one group of the Family that doesn't have as much.

I’m not sure why people are so sensitive about this subject because Disney already offers gambling on their ships. Just not in a casino form. Bingo. Very odd with people saying they wouldn’t cruise with Disney any more if they offered that. The truth is the are already offering it, it would just be expanding what they currently do.

I would love to see it on the ships. I know Disney would be able to do it the correct way, but I don't we will ever see it.

Khazid
03-16-2009, 11:57 PM
Just my opinion, so weigh it as such.

I am a semi-professional card player that already spends 25-35 hours a week at the tables. I can tell you from personal experience that Bingo just does not compare to the personality types that an active cruise casino will attract.

When I go on vacation I don't even want to think about structures, betting patterns, reading, odds calculations, etc. I want to enjoy activities that will take me away from the rooms I already spend a lot of time in.

While many "floating" casino's may seem attractive to a lot of cruisers, I leave that to the cruise lines that offer it. I look forward to DCL because I know for a fact I won't have to walk through a room that has slots, table games, and my main attraction poker. It would just be too difficult to not flip the switch and go right to work.

So while the word family is tossed around quite a bit in this thread, and I have tried to avoid posting my opinion up to this point, but I really do feel that DCL should stay away from traditional casino games. If they added it, I for one would avoid it as much as I avoid Vegas and Atlantic city while on vacation.

As a conclusion, I hope DCL sticts to what it has done so far and limit the games of chance to just Bingo and focus it's efforts on expanding other areas of entertainment more suitable for it's image.

ok...Rant OFF.:eek:

Mickeyhugger
03-17-2009, 01:09 AM
Just my thoughts here, everyone keeps tossing around the word Family. Most of the time when people say it here, it seems Family = Kids. It was always my opinion that Family = Everyone. Kids, teens, adults, grandparents, ect. From my experience, there does appear to be a lack of entertainment for adults compared to everything that offered for kids.

If Disney did have a casino on one of their ships, I would be willing to pay more of a premium for the expanded offerings for the one group of the Family that doesn't have as much.

I’m not sure why people are so sensitive about this subject because Disney already offers gambling on their ships. Just not in a casino form. Bingo. Very odd with people saying they wouldn’t cruise with Disney any more if they offered that. The truth is the are already offering it, it would just be expanding what they currently do.

I would love to see it on the ships. I know Disney would be able to do it the correct way, but I don't we will ever see it.

:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 exactly:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

AlexandNessa
03-17-2009, 04:03 AM
Just my thoughts here, everyone keeps tossing around the word Family. Most of the time when people say it here, it seems Family = Kids. It was always my opinion that Family = Everyone. Kids, teens, adults, grandparents, ect. From my experience, there does appear to be a lack of entertainment for adults compared to everything that offered for kids.

If Disney did have a casino on one of their ships, I would be willing to pay more of a premium for the expanded offerings for the one group of the Family that doesn't have as much.

I’m not sure why people are so sensitive about this subject because Disney already offers gambling on their ships. Just not in a casino form. Bingo. Very odd with people saying they wouldn’t cruise with Disney any more if they offered that. The truth is the are already offering it, it would just be expanding what they currently do.

I would love to see it on the ships. I know Disney would be able to do it the correct way, but I don't we will ever see it.

Thank you. It is hard for some to remember on this board that "family" doesn't always include children. Or even young children at that. After all, when we are announced on the ship, DCL calls me and my husband a "family." ;)

Besides, even if they did include casinos on the new ships, what would make the casino any different than the other adults-only sections of the ship? Does anyone here REALLY think that anyone under 18 would be allowed in the casinos? IMO, it wouldn't be unlike the Quiet Cove, the Spa, or Palo.

I don't care either way. We've been on ships with casinos, and we don't use them beyond putting a quarter or dollar in a machine as we pass through. But I would not care in the least if they were on the new ships. After all, aren't the new ships 50% bigger? There's got to be some extra space in there without sacrificing something. I agree with other posters that kids have plenty to do, what's something else for the adults who chose to partake? Everything doesn't always have to be about the kids, does it?

I do have to say, I would get a kick out of seeing how Disney would do a casino. Would bet they would do it with class, and not the bright-lights/loud bell Vegas-style casinos on other ships.

lbgraves
03-17-2009, 06:51 AM
Just my opinion, so weigh it as such.

I am a semi-professional card player that already spends 25-35 hours a week at the tables. I can tell you from personal experience that Bingo just does not compare to the personality types that an active cruise casino will attract.

When I go on vacation I don't even want to think about structures, betting patterns, reading, odds calculations, etc. I want to enjoy activities that will take me away from the rooms I already spend a lot of time in.

While many "floating" casino's may seem attractive to a lot of cruisers, I leave that to the cruise lines that offer it. I look forward to DCL because I know for a fact I won't have to walk through a room that has slots, table games, and my main attraction poker. It would just be too difficult to not flip the switch and go right to work.

So while the word family is tossed around quite a bit in this thread, and I have tried to avoid posting my opinion up to this point, but I really do feel that DCL should stay away from traditional casino games. If they added it, I for one would avoid it as much as I avoid Vegas and Atlantic city while on vacation.

As a conclusion, I hope DCL sticts to what it has done so far and limit the games of chance to just Bingo and focus it's efforts on expanding other areas of entertainment more suitable for it's image.

ok...Rant OFF.:eek:

Your post doesn't come across as a rant at all...quite the opposite. It is interesting to get the perspective of someone who does gamble regularly and to hear that they actually do not want a casino on DCL's ships either. Thanks for sharing!

5lilfish
03-17-2009, 07:59 AM
Just my opinion, so weigh it as such.

I am a semi-professional card player that already spends 25-35 hours a week at the tables. I can tell you from personal experience that Bingo just does not compare to the personality types that an active cruise casino will attract.

When I go on vacation I don't even want to think about structures, betting patterns, reading, odds calculations, etc. I want to enjoy activities that will take me away from the rooms I already spend a lot of time in.

While many "floating" casino's may seem attractive to a lot of cruisers, I leave that to the cruise lines that offer it. I look forward to DCL because I know for a fact I won't have to walk through a room that has slots, table games, and my main attraction poker. It would just be too difficult to not flip the switch and go right to work.

So while the word family is tossed around quite a bit in this thread, and I have tried to avoid posting my opinion up to this point, but I really do feel that DCL should stay away from traditional casino games. If they added it, I for one would avoid it as much as I avoid Vegas and Atlantic city while on vacation.

As a conclusion, I hope DCL sticts to what it has done so far and limit the games of chance to just Bingo and focus it's efforts on expanding other areas of entertainment more suitable for it's image.

ok...Rant OFF.:eek:

Have you seen some of the cruise BINGO players? They dish out between $30-$150 every day to play BINGO and many of them are at every session. On the other cruise lines with Casinos, I didn't spend that much. It's very possible to go and enjoy the penny slot machines with a $10 bill. Sure there are people that go overboard but you could say that about the bars onboard too. Just because I can stop with one drink and others can't doesn't mean that DCL ishouldn't offer alcoholic beverages. They also sell cigars and offer smoking area. Those are addictions too and I guess you could argue that they take away from the family attmosphere. I've said it a few times here, but my kids have been on 3 cruises that had casinos and I don't think they ever noticed them. You don't have to walk through them to get anywhere.

I can see why you would avoid a Casino onboard. It's your job and most people go on vacation to get away from work. My husband sure doesn't look to spend his vacation doing his work, but I think it's safe to say that most people onboard don't gamble for a living.


Jess

5lilfish
03-17-2009, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=MagicalPins;30855818]Just my thoughts here, everyone keeps tossing around the word Family. Most of the time when people say it here, it seems Family = Kids. It was always my opinion that Family = Everyone. Kids, teens, adults, grandparents, ect. From my experience, there does appear to be a lack of entertainment for adults compared to everything that offered for kids.QUOTE]


My family does include 5 children. We think cruising is the best family vacation for us because it provides a great balance of family time and adult time. I'd love to see more offered for the adults at night. I would be fine if DCL does not have a casino on the new ships, but if they did have one, DH and I would use it.

Jess

tvguy
03-17-2009, 03:17 PM
I suspect if Disney does put casinos on the new ships, they will do it the same way they did the kids clubs on the current ships. Our kids had no interest in the clubs, we never sought them out and we never even saw them because of how they are located.

disneychic
03-17-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't mind either way, however I don't see it happening.

Roveer
03-17-2009, 03:48 PM
They serve alcohol at all parks except the Magic Kingdom. EPCOT serves just about everything from Margarita's to Wine.


I am told that it was Walts wish that no alcohol be served in the parks. This applied to MK at the time and has been kept in force ever since. Other parks are different but MK is dry.

At first I thought on the new ships since they are so much bigger, that a casino wouldn't be a problem, but I've come to change my mind. When I really think about it Disney means a lot of things to me, NOT having a casino is one of them. Dont' get me wrong, I've been to LV every year for the past 14 years. I love my casinos as much as anyone, but on this topic, my vote would be to leave them off the new boats. Not judging anyone, as I would be judging myself, but if I had a vote. That's how I'd use it.

ceeyore
03-18-2009, 07:22 AM
While on the Med cruise in 2007 Jim Magalpin (sorry if the name is spelled wrong) stated there would be no casinos on the new ships. If there is anyone out there that remembers him stating something else please let me know. This topic was discussed during the Cay Club cocktail party. He stated that Disney cruise lines were meant to be family oriented and that is why they are choosing not to include casinos on the new ships.

dursin
03-18-2009, 07:33 AM
I suspect if Disney does put casinos on the new ships, they will do it the same way they did the kids clubs on the current ships. Our kids had no interest in the clubs, we never sought them out and we never even saw them because of how they are located.
Exactly. I would trust DCL to do it right if it came to a casino and locate it such that you wouldn't even know it was there unless you sought it out. Can't imagine anyone would be so uptight that they would be bothered by that.

maryisme
03-18-2009, 11:59 AM
Here are my 2 cents to add :).

I really don't equate a casino with tarnishing my "family vacation" on a disney ship or any ship for that matter. Sure, it is not geared towards family but it is not supposed to be. It's like anything else, it is an option, spend time there or don't.

Afterall, bars are plentiful, easily accessible and alcoholic drinks are allowed (as far as I know - correct me if I'm wrong) in the pool area where many of us gather as a family. I have been on 8 disney cruises and have seen my share of adults who had a few too many. They weren't intolerable situations and I doubt my DDs even noticed but I definitely did.

Inappropriate/drunk behavior bothers me more than a casino any day.

andrews_dad
03-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Too bad that there is not casinos aboard the new ships. We hit Orlando as often as we do Vegas. I'd love to have a little of each in the same spot. I know that we are the minority and most Diz pros do not like to count cards at the blackjack table and bluff at the poker tables like my wife and I do!

Arizona Rita
03-19-2009, 12:01 PM
From Tom McAlpin, prior President of DCL, the new ships will definetely not have a casino. This was asked by another cruiser during a Castaway Club meeting on the first Mediterranean cruise in 2007, which Mr. McAlpin was on. Obviously I don't know if anything has changed in the past 2 years, but at that time, it was a definite no.

We were also on that cruise and I also remember Tom saying that. Lets hope the new guy will keep it that way too!

TheWog
03-19-2009, 12:13 PM
I don't think DCL will have casinos onboard the new ships, but I don't think it would ruin family vacations either. RCCL is geared towards families and they have casinos and the comment about having to go through a casino to get anywhere on one of their ship is a bit misguided. They are usually on one deck and you may have to pass through to get to another part of that deck, but there are certainly alternate ways around (i.e. outside, different deck, etc.) I also highly doubt the atmosphere would be different, do we really think degenerate gamblers are boarding a Disney Cruise to hit the casinos? No. Some moms and dads who want to pass an hour or two while the little ones are off at the slumber party or something. There is not much to do in the evenings for adults, particularly later at night. I could take them or leave them, but my wife enjoys dropping a couple of dollars in a poker machine.

atinkerbellmom
03-19-2009, 12:17 PM
I doubt it because DCL in videos and podcast stress the fact they do not have one on the ship. I will be honest though, I do not care either way. It would bring down the cost and DCL is so careful in design that they would have it tucked away somewhere that you would have to be seeking it to find it. Plus gives the smokers somewhere to go 6 of the nights and not as many in Rocking D Bar. ;)

Pooh's-Honey-Pot
03-19-2009, 12:18 PM
I don't gamble even when I go to Las Vegas, but I certainly don't care whether Disney has a casino on board or not! It wouldnt affect me booking - I book Disney cruises because I love Disney. Similarly I don't think anyone who likes to gamble would book a Disney cruise just because they suddenly had a casino on board, so I dont see how it would affect the family atmosphere. You would still get the same guests, just spread around more evening activities!

Elphie&Me
03-19-2009, 01:50 PM
Ships make so much money off of casinos that in these hard times it may help them and us if they did add them. Less reason to need to raise the rates. I'm not into it my self but if it helped pay and keep from cutting back on live music, entertainment etc, I would say go for it DCL.