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Bride-to-be
03-06-2009, 10:09 AM
I felt the need to elaborate a bit so here is about us -

My name is Cassie, I just recently finished with school and I have degree in hotel management. I am very whimsical and live my life with my head in the clouds. I grew up going to disney multiple times a year. My dad is especially crazy about disney and sort of instilled the love for it in me. I have been to all of the disneylands around the world. Hong Kong is by far my most favorite of all of the parks. We went last summer and I can't wait to go back. If the flight wasn't so long we would def have our wedding there. Belle is my favorite princess and my favorite halloween costume =O). Overall I want our guests to have the time of their lives at our wedding even though its our day. Planning is tearing me apart trying to figure out what everyone else would want and throwing in a bit of what I like.

My fiance's name is John. He is a few years older than I am and much more based in reality. Before we had met he had never been to disney. It's now one of his most favorite places. We try to go to disney world as often as we can and have done the four day and the 11 day med cruise together. Doing the cruise was originally his idea for a dream wedding - I think to pull me away for the idea of Hong Kong. We decided it would be too expensive to do the cruise and wrote it off. Now we are all booked and super excited! He has turned most of the planning over to me and gets daily "wedding updates". He basically doesn't care as long as we can take off on a jet ski with "just married" on the back.

How we met - We both summered on the island of Nantucket, he worked for USAir and I happened to be flying home at the end of the summer. It was more a comedy of errors but I had my drivers liscense with me in the car and couldn't find it at check in. It was a super long process to get checked in without it and TSA had to go through all of my 10 carry ons (I don't know why I don't like checking luggage..) only to find my license in the last bag they checked. Shortly after that the flight was delayed and then cancelled. So I spent a lot of time sitting around waiting thats when I first met John. I was rescheduled to a flight the next day and was soo excited to have one more day on the island. I felt really bad about all of the trouble I had caused earlier that day with my lack of license and all of my bags - so I went to my favorite smoothie place and ordered a ton of smoothies to be delivered to the USAir and TSA people the next day. Keep in mind that this is a super small island and a very small airport. I think there may have been a total of 15 people who worked there. So anyway as I was about to board my flight he came up to me and said thanks for the smoothies and gave me his number. I gave him my im and said sometime he should im me. Two weeks later I got a message - Hey smoothie girl! That fall I went back to the island to visit and hang out for a weekend. We had a blast! After that we talked for hours and hours and ended up becoming great friends. A year and a half later we were having dinner at one of our favorite restaurants and he said he really wanted me to be his girlfriend. It took off from there and we have now been together as a couple for just over four years. Two years ago we moved together back to my home town.

The proposal - I know I have posted this before so sorry if you are reading it twice. We happened to be at Disney for his birthday in the end of October, as we are every year. We really wanted to do the Keys to the Kingdom tour as neither of us had ever done it. It was sold out for the whole time we were there. I kept calling back to check. My dad then called when we were down there and said he was trying come up with a last min birthday gift for John. He said he had disney on the other line and that the Keys to the Kingdom tour still didn't have any openings, but that there was a last min cancellation for a fireworks cruise. He asked if I thought John would like it and I not completely knowing what it was thought it sounded fun and said to go for it - I told him to hang up and quickly get back to the disney person to book it. He told me that I had to keep it as a complete surprise and that I should make sure we get to the Grand Floridian by a certain time and that the reservation would be in his name. He also mentioned that there would be snacks and drinks and stuff. So I thought it was great. As soon as I got back to my laptop I tried to find out what it was that we were doing and found the group pontoon boat wishes cruises with bagged snacks and soft drinks! I thought it looked really fun. So I secretly lead John in a winding way back to the GF. I didn't want him to guess what we were doing. As we walked into the hotel he thought we were going back to Victoria and Alberts and kept freaking out that we were under dressed. Then we got the marina and he had a rough idea I think of what we were doing. So we went to check in and they asked which boat we were on and I looked back at them sort of clueless. They asked our name and said oh you are on the Grand 1 yacht and pointed to this big boat. We then had to check in and they asked for a credit card. I then went to hand them mine but kept asking because I assumed it would be prepaid. I then saw what the total cost was and nearly lost it- I couldn't believe my dad spent so much on his birthday! I then kept handing them my card trying to fight John saying that he couldn't pay for his own birthday present. The CM refused to take my card and said it had to be John's card. I thought that was strange but quickly forgot about it. We then boarded the boat that was covered in rose petals we were handed glasses of champagne and given the grand tour of the yacht. I kept telling the butler and captain that we picked up on a last min cancellation for Johns birthday and that it was my dads big present. They kept saying that I had such a nice dad. We then sat down to dinner - which really worried me because I am a vegetarian and my dad is totally not considerate of it - he would never think to ask for a special menu. Then the first course was soup - and I thought oh no chicken broth. But decided I would make a scene and I would eat it anyway. Then the butler said specially with vegetable stock - I was super happy. Then the next course was my fav cobb salad from the brown derby specially with the meat on the side. I was really amazed that my dad remembered! Either that or the people who cancelled before us also happend to be vegetarian and have the same favorite salad. So then the courses and dinner went on and on. The captain then came down with something with a napkin over it and said to John - I believe your lady dropped something... He pulled the napkin off and there was a white carnation pillow with blue tulle and a glass slipper with a ring and tiara. John said will you marry me? I was soo shocked not only surprised about the ring but surprised that he was able to coordinate a proposal at the last minute. I was soo confused about how he could have pulled it off - I was stunned. After it came out that he had it planned for months and my dad was just a decoy - it took me the longest time to believe that he was able to plan the entire thing by himself. I was super happy and right at that very moment we were moved outside to the back of the boat for a special engagment dessert and then the wishes fireworks started. I was sooooo happy. It was the perfect unforgetable evening.


Shelley from Impressions did our save the dates - I am very happy with them.

When you open the box this is what you see -

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When you squeeze Mickey's tummy he says, "Oh boy hiya pals it's me Mickey! My good friends Cassie and John are getting married on a Disney Cruise and you're invited to join in all the fun! So get your passports ready because we set sail on January 31st and your prepaid stateroom is looking awfully empty without YOU! Hope you can make it! Let my pals know! Hehe. Bye now!"

This is the cover for the card. I always LOVED the television commercial for the cruise line when it first debuted. The one with the mickey and goofy clouds. A few years back I found a deck of playing cards on CC with this image. Then when we were looking for cover art I thought it could work well. I added our initials in the sand.

http://s638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/th_WeddingSavethedatesandPongo012.jpg

This is the inside of the card. I photoshopped the image from a disney email and added the sparkles in the left ear. As soon as I heard that Shelley could do Mickey magnets I knew that that was what I wanted. On the right is a poem that she came up with. If you keep turning the pages it just has all of the details of everything.

http://s638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/th_WeddingSavethedatesandPongo013.jpg

http://s638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/th_WeddingSavethedatesandPongo014.jpg

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These are all of the Mickeys piled on top of eachother before they were taged. I thought it was a fun pic.

http://s638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/th_WeddingSavethedatesandPongo002.jpg

I will post more as the details fall into place =)

Mrsdisneyb2b
03-06-2009, 10:10 AM
Those are AWESOME! Wow, that is so cool! Did you DIY or have them made? Welcome!

Sleeping_Beauty81
03-06-2009, 07:15 PM
OMG those are brilliant! I know your guests will just love receiving them.

Very creative idea.:goodvibes

princess22
03-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Those are adorable! Your guests are in for a real treat! I can't wait to hear more!!!!

tiggersam00
03-06-2009, 11:05 PM
Love them! Love them! Love Them! How did you do that?? So awesome, your guests will love them!

Bride-to-be
03-07-2009, 06:30 AM
Thanks! I am so glad everyone likes them! I thought the idea might be a bit childish since most of our guests are not as into disney as we are, but we figured if we were having a disney wedding we should go all out with it.

Those are AWESOME! Wow, that is so cool! Did you DIY or have them made? Welcome!

Shelley was amazing and did all of the research and spent countless hours planning everything. To save $ I played plastic surgeon and sewed the Mickeys up, tied the tags on the arms and boxed everything for the mail. Other than that she did it all.

Bride-to-be
03-10-2009, 08:49 PM
So we are planning on a 10am ceremony on the beach at Castaway Cay. I know I want to do custom beach towels as favors but don't really know much more yet. We are going to keep it really informal. We are all probably going to wear bathing suits and cover ups. I will either have a special bathing suit with an added skirt made to look like a dress or I might just wear a white bikini with a white beaded tunic as a cover up. Not sure yet. I can't wait to meet with Cathy so we can learn more about all of the ceremony enhancements.

It is super important to us since we are having some older people and lots of little kids that we don't go running back to the boat after the ceremony so we are skipping the Palo cake thing. I just feel like getting strollers and the whole gang together to go back and forth is just too much. So we are planning to go straight from the ceremony to playing on the beach for the day. A group person from disney is kind enough to currently be working on all of the details.

So then we want to have a dinner or cocktail reception back on the boat. We are still waiting to here what we can do. We submitted a request to Palo for a private dinner party and were told that that the only problem was the children. I don't completely understand. Cathy is trying to get to the bottom of it for us. I would completely understand the no kids thing if there were any other cruise guests there but if we have the entire place to ourselves I really don't see what the big deal is. Especially since kids are allowed in for the normal cake cutting. John thinks we should leave the kids in the kids clubs and in the nursery and do Palo anyway. I don't really want to sepearte the kids. Nobody seems to be able to give me an answer as to why they won't allow kids in Palo during private parties. It really really makes me angry. I know Cathy and everyone else is working super hard on it - but its just killing me not having the reception finalized and not having answers.

I am starting to think that maybe we should move the ceremony and reception to WDW and do it the day before the cruise leaves when all of our guests would be there anyway then we can just all go on the boat together the next day.

29apr00
03-11-2009, 07:40 AM
Wow your save the dates are awesome! How did you get the recorded mesage so personalized??

Can't wait to hear if you get all your wishes!!

Jennifer

pjstevens
03-11-2009, 08:10 AM
WOW Cassie, those are amazing!

tiggersam00
03-11-2009, 08:15 AM
Oh Cassie, that does sound frusterating! I hate getting the run around myself, so I fell your pain on this one! I love the ceremony on the beach idea, your guests will love it! Could they do maybe a "cocktail hour" type thing on the beach for you and your guests, and then have an adults only dinner at Palo if the kids are not allowed?? If kids are allowed defintley go for Palo, it looks like such a romantic restaurant :) I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get an answer soon:upsidedow

Bride-to-be
03-11-2009, 11:09 AM
Thanks for the support!

Does anyone know what time we depart CC? previously I always thought it was 5. Then I saw a couple of personal navigators that said 7. If it is 7 then maybe cocktails on the beach could work!!!

The only negative is that the dress I really wanted to wear is a little on the formal side for the beach. :sad2:

The whole thing about Palo really just frustrates me. If they came back and said that we couldn't have a private party there for 60 guests then it would be understandable - and sort of what we were expecting to hear. But since they indicated that its something they have previously done and are able to do, it really really makes me angry that they won't allow kids. I just wish someone from disney would give me a reasonable explanation.

GGGRRRRRRR.

tinks_1989
03-11-2009, 01:02 PM
I love your proposal that is one amasing fiancee

your save the dates are by far the best i have seen very exciting :)

CinderelliT
03-12-2009, 09:25 AM
OMG! I want one of your save the dates! They are adorable! I totally think you should go for a fancy dress on the beach! It's your wedding, do what you want to. I love pictures of brides all dressed up on the beach. It's like the two opposites together make for gorgeous pictures.

pinkcow
03-12-2009, 11:33 AM
I looove your backstory and engagement! The save the dates look great too!

Can't wait to hear more! popcorn::

gemmybear83
03-12-2009, 12:19 PM
I LOVE your save the dates - what a fantastic idea! I've got my fingers crossed for your that you get your reception sorted out :goodvibes

Bride-to-be
03-12-2009, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=29apr00;30750736 How did you get the recorded mesage so personalized??
Jennifer[/QUOTE]

We wrote the script and had a voiceover artist do it. =o)

Originally my dad came up with the idea and started running around his house trying to find all of the lamps and toasters and everything he had that talked. He then thought that we should record our voices having a conversation and just have mickey say "wow thats sure swell" etc. Then Shelley suggested we should just use a voiceover artist do it! It was so much easier in the long run.

At first we were going to put the voice into a 10by14 musical hallmark card - but I had a hard time finding a 20 sec sound bite for the cards. Since we are inviting quite a few families with kids we thought the stuffed animal might be better. I really wanted the cruise beanies - but apparently they are only available on the ship and we couldn't do a weekend cruise to get them =o( So we had to stick with the disney store.

Bride-to-be
03-12-2009, 06:16 PM
So for the moment we are hoping we can have our ceremony/reception on on the cruise. Which leaves the night before we sail open. We have to pick a hotel for our room block and some evening entertainment. We are expecting most of our guests to arrive mid afternoon and so I assume they won't want to buy park tickets for that day. As people will be arriving at all different times we want to do something very low-key, my parents are covinced that most people will be tired after they arrive.

At the moment we have the Napa room on hold but I think we are going to be over the 50 person max.

So here are the plan Bs -

Option 1) We stay at Wilderness Lodge (DF's favorite) and charter a ton of the little pontoon boats for a wishes fireworks cruise. I am not sure what private dining can do on the pontoon boats but we would hope to have something.. We may also be able to have Bob Jackosn from Riverside come and perform in the Territory Lounge (still waiting for approval).

Option 2) We stay at the Animal Kingdom Lodge and have no evening entertainment and take everyone on the morning safari ride just before/as the park opens.

Option one is my favorite - but we would be there the next to last day in January so it could be VERY COLD for a boat ride. I was thinking it would be fun to have custom sweatshirt blankets for everyone. I figure if we tell guests to dress warmly ahead of time it couldn't be that bad. Maybe private dining can do hot chocolate... And we could always cancel 48 hours in advance if the weather that week looks to be unbearably cold.

Option two everyone would have to wake up early which wouldn't be bad for the old and the young but may not be too appealing to the people our age. Also it could be equally cold in the morning as in the evening. Plus we wouldn't have a whole lot of evening stuff so people would be stuck hanging around the resort unless they felt adventerous enough to go out and explore. Does anyone know when pleasure island is supposed to be finished?

I just want to figure out what we want so its settled and I don't have to think about it anymore. The only thing that would change all of this is if we have to move the wedding to WDW b/c it would have to be the same night.

P.S. John doesn't like the GF, Poly or the Contemp (obvious hotels for fireworks..)- if we end up with the napa room we are staying there anyway.

So which do you guys like?

29apr00
03-12-2009, 07:16 PM
Option #2. What i don't like about option 1 is the boat isn't big enought for everyone. I wouldn't like having some guests on 1 boat, family on another boat, and still another boat for more. I would want to try and keep all my guests together.

What about a wagon ride at Ft Wilderness? How many people can they get in a wagon? You could see about getting hot chocolate for that too!

CharacterFan
03-15-2009, 12:37 AM
Option 2, because you're not going to be able to be close to everyone on the pontoon boats, and people might be tired when they arrive. I'd maybe plan a late dinner at Boma for your party and those interested can join you and then do the Sarfari in the morning. The only downside is if it is cold, the animals won't be out in the early morning. I know when I was there in December a few years ago an it was 40 in the morning we only saw like 10 animals on the entire safari. And 6 of those were hippos.

It's about sharing what you enjoy about Disney with your friends and family. Do you enjoy Wishes or the Safari more? Maybe you like Illuminations and can do a dessert party.

princess22
03-15-2009, 07:39 AM
I saw someone on here who had a really nice welcome dinner (dessert party maybe) at Epcot. Maybe look in to that.

But of the two options you have, there are pro's and con's to both, which everyone has pointed out. But I like Option 2 better because you will be closer to your guests and I think it is more of a special experience.

pinkcow
03-15-2009, 09:46 AM
I like option #2 as well. You have the opportunity to mix and mingle with your guests. You could also do the safari ride in the evening, I think AK would great after dark! I wouldn't count out an illuminations desert party either. As one guest told me, it's a way to "test out" the theme parks without actually having to spend the day there.

HTH :goodvibes

ariel2007
03-15-2009, 03:22 PM
Wow all your idea's sound great. I am so glad you started your PTR, I was worried you may have been scared off. I love the STD's, and the Mickey Mouse beanies are such a cute idea. How did you get the voice recorded things in them? All you plans for the cruise sound great, I really hope it all works out for you. You are very generous to do this all for your family, and to be thinking about them on your wedding as well as your own ideas and feelings. And with all your little extra idea's like the beach towels etc its just going to be amazing. I love the swimsuit you showed before for the ceromony, it was gorgeous. And as for the night before, I think the Wishes Cruise's may be a bit of a headache. How about something like a nice, outside informal BBQ at Fort Wilderness. Someone had one before and it looked great and the food there is so yummy.

Bride-to-be
03-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Nobody likes the pontoon boats :'o(

Oh well. Maybe you guys are right! We just figured that people are going to be arriving at all different times and probably would not want to do anything requiring lots of energy like the parks. I figured it would be so easy to have bob jackson come and do a small open bar and apps for anyone who wanted to join in and then walk down to the dock and take the short ride over to the fireworks. I completely understand not wanting to have our guests seperated - but I figure its such a short time period and I think people would be more focused on the fireworks then on the people they were sitting with anyway. Its one of my favorite things, but I worry about people not liking it b/c of the cold.

If we do do AKL I am worried about not having space for people who want to hang out together to be able to do so - even though there is the lobby and hot tub. Also it would be a super big negative if the animals were not out for the safari! That would be such a disaster. I LOVE Boma - but John isn't that fond of it - I am not sure whats wrong with him! The only other problem is that its really far from everything else so it would be hard for people to leave and go out that night if they wanted to.

ariel2007
03-15-2009, 03:37 PM
Nobody likes the pontoon boats :'o(

Oh well. Maybe you guys are right! We just figured that people are going to be arriving at all different times and probably would not want to do anything requiring lots of energy like the parks. I figured it would be so easy to have bob jackson come and do a small open bar and apps for anyone who wanted to join in and then walk down to the dock and take the short ride over to the fireworks. I completely understand not wanting to have our guests seperated - but I figure its such a short time period and I think people would be more focused on the fireworks then on the people they were sitting with anyway. Its one of my favorite things, but I worry about people not liking it b/c of the cold.

Its not that I don't like the idea, I just think it could be quite difficult with a large number of people. Apparently the cruises are hard to get so you may not be able to get enough boats, or they may not have enough even if you booked them all, it depends on your party size.

Bride-to-be
03-15-2009, 04:03 PM
Yeah I checked we can't book until the am of Nov 2. So I figured we could call as they open and just book the fleet. There are 60 of us and 8 boats. Each boat I think holds 11. So it should work out with lots of room to spare. Also if the weather is bad then we can cancel up to 48 hours in advance or something. So if we see its going to be a really cold week we could change plans at the last minute.

If it looks like its going to be a really cold week I don't think we could cancel the safari. I haven't heard of being able to do an evening safari without buying a park ticket and doing the normal routine. Have you guys ever done it? Maybe that would be really cool. I have never seen the safari after dusk - is everything lit? Can you still see the animals?

Bride-to-be
03-15-2009, 04:12 PM
Wow all your idea's sound great. I am so glad you started your PTR, I was worried you may have been scared off. I love the STD's, and the Mickey Mouse beanies are such a cute idea. How did you get the voice recorded things in them? All you plans for the cruise sound great, I really hope it all works out for you. You are very generous to do this all for your family, and to be thinking about them on your wedding as well as your own ideas and feelings. And with all your little extra idea's like the beach towels etc its just going to be amazing. I love the swimsuit you showed before for the ceromony, it was gorgeous. And as for the night before, I think the Wishes Cruise's may be a bit of a headache. How about something like a nice, outside informal BBQ at Fort Wilderness. Someone had one before and it looked great and the food there is so yummy.

Thank you!!! We had a voiceover done and wrote the script for the beanies. I went and tried on that bathing suit - I thought it would be soooo perfect - but in person it didn't look anything like it - I tried it on in black and its till made me look bad. So I am kind of scared of the white. I was just really really thin and like a tube. Kind of disappointing. Now I am thinking of just wearing a more normal white bikini and doing a cool white beaded tunic like cover up or something. I still have that dress too - which I really want to wear on the boat and its driving me nuts that the reception isn't settled.

If we did the boats I thought it would be fun to do sweatshirt blankets in navy with fuschia glitter ink with the last lines to wishes on it "Starlight, starbright - First star I see tonight - I wish I may, I wish I might, - Have the wish I wish tonight - We'll make a wish and do as dreamers do - And all our wishes will come true?" Then on the beach towels have "wishes do come true" somewhere is small letters. Do you guys think it would be weird to do blankets and towels as favors? It would be a lot for someone to carry home...

We started ring shopping today for wedding bands!!! I am super excited. Has anyone ever before bought stones over the internet? I am kind of scared - but the alternative is to have them sent to a store in NYC so we can see them in person - but thats a hassle.

Skylarr29
03-15-2009, 05:13 PM
I don't think you can book the Sunrise Safari unless you and ALL of your guests are staying concierge level at the Animal Kingdom Lodge. I tried to book a Sunset Safari for our group, some stayed at AKL and we stayed in the Royal Asante Presidential Suite, and we were told no by our planner and by AKL concierge. They said all of our guests had to be concierge guests. I also don't think one truck would hold everyone and it is difficult to book. We ended up doing it on our own the day of arrival. There is a Magical Gatherings Safari Celebration dinner but that is something different.

You would probably need 6 pontoon boats and the cruises aren't exactly the easiest to get. You could try of course but you definitely need a back up plan in case you can't get them all. The boats are different sizes, the smaller ones DO NOT have sound, the larger ones have sound and hold 10 adults or 12 if there are children in the party. Cost is $275.00 per boat.

I think you should find something fun but a little more casual that way if people decide they are too tired after traveling you won't lose a ton of money.

ariel2007
03-15-2009, 05:20 PM
Thank you!!! We had a voiceover done and wrote the script for the beanies. I went and tried on that bathing suit - I thought it would be soooo perfect - but in person it didn't look anything like it - I tried it on in black and its till made me look bad. So I am kind of scared of the white. I was just really really thin and like a tube. Kind of disappointing. Now I am thinking of just wearing a more normal white bikini and doing a cool white beaded tunic like cover up or something. I still have that dress too - which I really want to wear on the boat and its driving me nuts that the reception isn't settled.

If we did the boats I thought it would be fun to do sweatshirt blankets in navy with fuschia glitter ink with the last lines to wishes on it "Starlight, starbright - First star I see tonight - I wish I may, I wish I might, - Have the wish I wish tonight - We'll make a wish and do as dreamers do - And all our wishes will come true?" Then on the beach towels have "wishes do come true" somewhere is small letters. Do you guys think it would be weird to do blankets and towels as favors? It would be a lot for someone to carry home...

We started ring shopping today for wedding bands!!! I am super excited. Has anyone ever before bought stones over the internet? I am kind of scared - but the alternative is to have them sent to a store in NYC so we can see them in person - but thats a hassle.

No, I think they are lovely favors, I would love to get something like that. Maybe you should suggest that they don't bring towels or only one, that way you would just replace what they would have brought anyway. And the poem on the blanket sounds perfect, you have such cute ideas. Shame about the bathing suits, but you can get some gorgeous bikini's, maybe one with diamond details or something, or another swimsuit with some pretty detailing on.

princess22
03-15-2009, 08:43 PM
Nobody likes the pontoon boats :'o(

I completely understand not wanting to have our guests seperated - but I figure its such a short time period and I think people would be more focused on the fireworks then on the people they were sitting with anyway. Its one of my favorite things, but I worry about people not liking it b/c of the cold.



If it's one of your favorite things to do, then you should try and book it! Your wedding should reflect you, and if it's one of your faves, then you should share that with your guests! I think the sweatshirts sound like a cute idea. Plus, I live in Florida, and while it gets chilly I don't think it gets too cold to sit on a boat and watch some fireworkds. Sweatshirts and blankets should be fine! Plus, the fireworks are only 12 minutes, so they won't be out there too long! But like someone mentioned, I would have a back up plan in case you can't book that many boats!

Bride-to-be
03-16-2009, 07:08 AM
I don't think you can book the Sunrise Safari unless you and ALL of your guests are staying concierge level at the Animal Kingdom Lodge. I tried to book a Sunset Safari for our group, some stayed at AKL and we stayed in the Royal Asante Presidential Suite, and we were told no by our planner and by AKL concierge. They said all of our guests had to be concierge guests. I also don't think one truck would hold everyone and it is difficult to book. We ended up doing it on our own the day of arrival. There is a Magical Gatherings Safari Celebration dinner but that is something different.

You would probably need 6 pontoon boats and the cruises aren't exactly the easiest to get. You could try of course but you definitely need a back up plan in case you can't get them all. The boats are different sizes, the smaller ones DO NOT have sound, the larger ones have sound and hold 10 adults or 12 if there are children in the party. Cost is $275.00 per boat.

I think you should find something fun but a little more casual that way if people decide they are too tired after traveling you won't lose a ton of money.

I first saw the concierge tour and thought that looked great - when I asked about it disney sent me a whole info pack on something that looks a little different. It is designed I think for corporate stuff. You don't even have to be staying at AKL to do it. Its quite a bit more expensive and it includes a private breakfast outside with characters and then there are all kinds of add on entertainment packages. We would def need multiple trucks. I was a little bummed that they couldn't pick us up at the hotel in the trucks and that we would have to take a bus to a back entrance of AK and walk from there. Its a lot of collapsing and unfolding of strollers for a morning.

At the moment we have the Napa room on hold but we have to say yes or no by may. I am worried that we are going to have too many people for it - but if we could keep it under 50 it would be so great! b/c everyone needs to eat dinner so everyone could just pop upstairs for an informal dinner and fireworks. Then we don't have to deal with the cold. The negative is that it is by far the most expensive of all the ideas, and DF isn't super fond of the contemp - even though I love it.

I liked the idea that we could do private dining on the boats. If we go that route I am going to try to see if we can book them before the normal booking time through DFTW. If there is no way to book them ahead of time then I figure no one else would be able to book them ahead of time - so if we try to book the second it opens then I think we would be in good shape. How many people are going to want to do a boat ride in the end of Jan? I orig got the idea b/c when we were on the grand1 some company had chartered the fleet of pontoon boats for the fireworks.

So I don't know I am still torn. I know my grandmother really likes the safari - so thats something I am trying to consider.

Skylarr29
03-16-2009, 12:07 PM
I wasn't trying to be negative just to clarify, I know sometimes when planning it is difficult to see all the logistics of putting something together.

I was planning on having our rehearsal dinner at Animal Kingdom (until we got bumped because of a convention :rolleyes: ) and we were going to have dinner at the Tamu Tamu courtyard after we rode the safari. We were going to do what they call a ride mix in. For $13.50 pp we were going to join the last safari ride of the evening. We were told our whole group might not end up together but most of us would be. Then we were going to have a buffet dinner. This was for January before we changed our date and they told us there were heaters available if it was too cold (for a price of course). This could be another option you can discuss with your planner. The price might be more reasonable then the other option you were given.

Bride-to-be
03-16-2009, 12:23 PM
Oh no - don't think I think you are being negative - I really do need all of the constructive criticism I can get!

Now I think we might be talking about the same thing with the tamu tamu -

http://www.disneymedialab.com/dvm/concepts/Kilimanjaro_Sunrise_Safari-EC$$$.pdf

I am sure they could provide heaters - I bet the colder it is the higher the rental price goes :rotfl:

I don't know I am just sooo unsure of what to do. I feel like our guests are so varied and are all going to want to do different things and I just want to have one activity that everyone can enjoy together. If it were me I would force everyone out onto the water in the boats. Just because I think the fireworks are kind of magical especially from the water. Although I am known to be far more adventurous than most of my family. I really don't want anyone to be miserable!!!

SIGH what to do?

Skylarr29
03-16-2009, 01:18 PM
How about having a dessert party at Illuminations. You could serve food if you wanted also. The Italy Isola is so beautiful! I mean if you are going to be out on the water for Wishes then you can be outside for Illuminations and be right up front. Or the Grand Floridian Marina for a Wishes party. Then you don't have the problem of getting the whole fleet, who sits where, etc. etc.

I think the Tamu Tamu was the same I was offered, just at night. That is a cool idea.

I can relate to the frustration of not knowing what to plan. We changed our rehearsal dinner so many times. First we were at Tamu but we got bumped for a convention, then we were at Narnia in Hollywood Studios but they closed it to change it to Prince Caspian and they weren't sure if it was going to open back up as a convention location, then it opened back up and we were able to use it but then a convention booked the whole dang park and we got bumped again. We finally went with Raglan Road at Downtown Disney because we are both Irish. It was a very fun and casual get together. In the end it worked out best because we didn't want to spend 10k on a rehearsal dinner and have it outshine the actual wedding reception.

GL.

beach bride 2010
03-16-2009, 06:58 PM
One thing you said you don't like about the safari option is collapsing all those strollers. If you are having a lot of kids I don't think I would go with the boat option. I know you aren't on the boat for an extremely long time but it is a pretty confined space for young children who could potentially be cranky and tired from travelling. It wouldn't very easy for their parents to remove them from the boat if they had a meltdown. When kids are cranky and tired and decide they have had enough even a beautiful fireworks show is not always enough to stop the meltdown.
What about doing a welcome party at the Grand Floridian's dock area and watching Wishes from there? Is that possible? Maybe they'd even give you an option to move it inside if it was too cold.
Or how about renting some convention space at the Contemporary, having a catered dinner, and then inviting everyone to go out on the public deck to watch the fireworks?
Another thing you might possibly look into is I know that the new Bay Lake Tower has a lounge on the top. I don't know the specifics of it and don't know if they've even made them available to the public other than the fact that it will be called Top of the World Lounge after the old restaurant at the Contemp. Maybe you can try to find out more info on that and ask if they will have private space available for renting out that will hold more than 50. I've heard it is supposed to have an observation deck. Bay Lake Tower is supposed to open this fall so it would be open before your wedding.

Bride-to-be
03-16-2009, 07:10 PM
You guys are right - maybe a dessert party is easier... I originally wanted to stay at the GF - but DF keeps pushing for WL. I kept thinking about the new contemp tower for a hotel block because I thought that would be so perfect - but I am scared its going to be super super expensive. But if they could do it at the top there for more than 50 it would be perfect!!!!! then we could maybe even just stay at the contemp and people could walk. Its a BRILLIANT idea - I am going to email Bill about it right now!


Skylarr I can't remember your first name - I feel like I should know it by now.. Anyhoo how did you deal with the rehersal dinner moving all over the place?? I would have lost it! damn conventions!!!!!

Both of you are right if we do something at one of the hotels then if little people aren't happy we could run them inside. I don't think its possible to see the fireworks from WL. Right? If they had some sort of roof top lounge then that would please DF.

Ok I will let you guys know what Bill says about the new tower.

THANK YOU!!!

Skylarr29
03-16-2009, 07:41 PM
You guys are right - maybe a dessert party is easier... I originally wanted to stay at the GF - but DF keeps pushing for WL. I kept thinking about the new contemp tower for a hotel block because I thought that would be so perfect - but I am scared its going to be super super expensive. But if they could do it at the top there for more than 50 it would be perfect!!!!! then we could maybe even just stay at the contemp and people could walk. Its a BRILLIANT idea - I am going to email Bill about it right now!


Skylarr I can't remember your first name - I feel like I should know it by now.. Anyhoo how did you deal with the rehersal dinner moving all over the place?? I would have lost it! damn conventions!!!!!

Both of you are right if we do something at one of the hotels then if little people aren't happy we could run them inside. I don't think its possible to see the fireworks from WL. Right? If they had some sort of roof top lounge then that would please DF.

Ok I will let you guys know what Bill says about the new tower.

THANK YOU!!!

My name is Melissa, lol. You can't really see the fireworks from the WL. I mean I have seen them from my room on the concierge floor but it is only the highest fireworks, you can't see the castle or hear the music or anything. How about a wagon ride or bbq on the beach at Ft. Wilderness? Ft. Wilderness also has a campfire and characters and it is free (you can purchase smore kits and snacks etc.) and then they show a movie under the stars. That might be a good option if your guests stay at WL, you could make little smore kits as favors and everyone can sit around the fire. Casual, fun, and close to the resort.

I am not sure about the contemporary tower as it is DVC so I don't know if you will be able to get a room block there, it will definitely be in high demand by the members. You might be able to have your room block in the main Contemporary building and your guests could still walk over if they allow it to be used as convention space.

Bride-to-be
03-16-2009, 07:53 PM
Melissa thanks! I sent a email to Bill so we shall see what he says. I am sure it would be sooo much cheaper to stay in the south wing of the contemp of they would let us do it - if they would let us use the lounge at all.

I think I want to stay away from ft. wilderness just because I have a fear its going to be cold so I don't want to make any freeze (I hate being cold) unless its something really really cool like fireworks.

We have stayed at DVC properties before, I am hoping because its such a slow time at disney when we are there they might let us do it - if we could use the lounge - if we could even afford the rooms there. I shutter just thinking about what the rooms must cost.

dizneyfreak
03-17-2009, 09:04 PM
After you PMed me I just had to go on and read your PJ. Your wedding sounds like it is going to be a blast! I can't wait to hear more. The night before our wedding we got tickets to Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party for everyone and we all dressed up like pirates. The group picture in front of the castle is awesome...ahhh the memories. N-e-ways, that may be an idea for you if there is a party at the MK the night you are interested in. Also, make sure to have a back up plan even if you go with a desert party. I speak from experience as my reception was to be held on the two French terraces and got bumped to a tiny not so pretty room in the American Adventure Parlor because of bad weather. Ick, but I just wanted to put that out there for ya.

Anna Marie

Bride-to-be
03-18-2009, 03:55 PM
Thanks! I still LOVE your costumes!!!!! If there was a Pirate and Princess party the night before then it would be PERFECT but since they stopped the party this year and I really fearful about it returning and happening the night we would need it. Very sad - it was my favorite.

If we were planning to do something in the park and it rained I would be super upset! If it is raining really hard they would just cancel the boats and not charge us so at least we wouldn't loose anything over it.

I got an email today and they are willing to bump up the person max to 60 for the castle wedding which is perfect for us!!! YAY!!!! :dance3: I am just waiting to hear if the date is available.

I feel like it would be sooo pefect because I could wear my dress! We could all have breakfast after and head over to the boat. We don't have to be on board until 4 and its only 40 mins away so I feel like we would have tons of time to spare. If we CAN do it I just feel like it would be such a relief then I wouldn't have to worry and be so incredibly stressed over trying to coordinate a reception on the cruise. If the date is available I just have to talk DF into it...

DisneyDmbNut
03-18-2009, 04:55 PM
i think there would be WAY more stress in trying to have a MK wedding early in the morning before going to the boat then the DCL wedding

That is the beauty of a DCL wedding..easy, simple package!

CinderelliT
03-18-2009, 08:57 PM
If you do the MK wedding, will you still do anything on the cruise? Or will the cruise be more of a honeymoon?

A MAGIC KINGDOM WEDDING!!! :cloud9: I will be so jealous and so happy for you at the same time!

29apr00
03-19-2009, 05:36 AM
:thumbsup2 Good luck on the MK wedding! As much as i would love to have one....no way would i want that kind of stress!!

So are you not doing the beach wedding on DCL? are you still having everyone sail??

Bride-to-be
03-19-2009, 05:41 AM
If we CAN do a MK wedding then we wouldn't do anything special on the cruise we would just all go and do the cruise as we are suppose to as normal cruise guests. Because all of our guests would still be with it I wouldn't think of it as a honeymoon but more of an extension of the reception. Depending on how much time DF can get off from work we are hoping to do a quick honeymoon somewhere after the cruise ends.

I just feel like to be able to sign a contract and have everything set in stone would take soooo much pressure and stress off. I could sleep at night!!! If the cruise people would even tell me what they are working on then I would have a lot more patience - but apparently every thing is top secret - so I am about at the end of my rope with them.

I still don't know if the date is available - I have heard there are tons of restrictions so who knows maybe they don't even allow it on weekends and we would need it for a sunday. I am hoping to hear today.

Then if we CAN do it I just have to figure out how to convince DF to switch - I already talked my mom into it, but convincing DF is going to be really hard.

Bride-to-be
03-19-2009, 01:11 PM
Our groups person emailed me today and offered studio sea from 4-6 for a buffet dinner and a band. Sigh. I feel like its so early for dinner - it would have to be cocktails and I just feel like studio sea would need soooo much in the way of decorations to look weddingy for anything other than a hollywood theme. If we did do dinner there I feel like we would need all new tables and chairs since the usual ones are all so tiny.

What do you guys think?

We still haven't heard about availability for the castle.

Skylarr29
03-19-2009, 02:27 PM
Our groups person emailed me today and offered studio sea from 4-6 for a buffet dinner and a band. Sigh. I feel like its so early for dinner - it would have to be cocktails and I just feel like studio sea would need soooo much in the way of decorations to look weddingy for anything other than a hollywood theme. If we did do dinner there I feel like we would need all new tables and chairs since the usual ones are all so tiny.

What do you guys think?

We still haven't heard about availability for the castle.

I can't see where they would bring in other chairs and tables from??? Regular dinner service will be prepping and starting during that time. I think you either need to be happy with what DCL offers as part of the package or you need to have a WDW wedding. DCL can obviously not accommodate the type or reception you are trying to have. The point of the DCL package is to be simple and all inclusive. If that isn't what you are looking for then it isn't the right choice for you. It seems like they are trying really really hard to help you out.

dizneyfreak
03-19-2009, 10:32 PM
Holy cows...that was a bit abrupt. My advice is to do exactly what will make you the most happy. This is your wedding and you are spending a TON of money to make it just the way you want and invision it.
I would have loved to have our wedding at the castle...talk about magical and fairytale...we so didn't have the money to do that but if you do...GO FOR IT!!!
Just remember...this is YOUR wedding and YOUR day. We are here to give you advice and help you along and that's all. You go for it girl and get every little thing you want on your wedding day ;)
Oh yes, and by the way...I would like to come if you have it at the castle :rotfl:

Anna Marie

spacerangerqueen
03-20-2009, 04:45 AM
I'm excited to hear if you get to have an MK wedding. The wedding can't be at the castle itself though right? It's the Swan boat landing by Tomorrowland. Or are you trying to get them to change that?
I'm very interested to see how this turns out popcorn::

padisneyfour
03-20-2009, 04:53 AM
wow good luck with all that......

Bride-to-be
03-20-2009, 01:54 PM
I feel like with all of disney if we are willing to pay for it they should put a price tag on it. sigh. I am soooo depressed. I really don't think Studio Sea would work even though it would have enough space for a band to come a long and a dance floor. I emailed them this morning and said that DF said he would much prefer to just rent out Palo for the evening without the kids. It kills me to not have the kids there.

All of the kids are on his side of the family and there parents don't usually even get babysitters - if they have to go out a relative comes to stay with them. I really don't think they are going to be willing to put the little kids in the nursery. I fear that they just wouldn't come to dinner and would go to the normal rotation seating.

I still haven't heard about availability for the castle!!!! Its killing me!!! I got to the point where I was so stressed yesterday I just through a huge fit and burst into tears. DF then said if you really want the castle I guess we can look into it... YAY!!!! He is just concerned that it is going to be freezing cold and no one is going to want to wake up early enough for it.

To answer questions - I assume it would be a swan boat landing. I wasn't going to change it - I think the landing would be fine. So I wasn't even going to ask about changing it unless something comes up and we need more people to be allowed to come but I doubt that would happen. Thats all assuming we CAN do it.

I am justifying the price of the castle because everything except for flowers is included and we would make the breakfast reception super informal so we wouldn't be spending to much on it. I figure with the cost of bringing a photographer on board with us and paying for a stateroom and paying for a band to come along with staterooms and for the whole reception place and everything else that would cost of chunk. Plus if we wanted to to a MK photo shoot (which I am not sure if we were planning to do or not) thats already included in the price too. Plus we wouldn't have to pay for the cost of the wedding on the beach and I wouldn't have to buy another beach appropriate wedding dress. I offered to skip the pontoon boats and evening entertainment the night before. I even offered to downgrade the hotel block a category to try to talk DF into it. So if I made those sacrifices price wise we might be able to afford it. :)

beach bride 2010
03-20-2009, 09:21 PM
I hope you find out soon about a MK wedding. Although they used to do weddings in other locations at Mk, I think they only do them at the swan boat landing now. If I could afford a wedding inside MK though I don't think I would care about that. The castle is still in the background and it would be so magical!
If you go with MK, would January 31st be your new date? One word of warning if it is-for the past few years it has either rained in Orlando on that date or been really cold. I can tell you that for a fact because it's my birthday. This year I got engaged on my birthday. It was early afternoon and I was wearing my heavy jacket that I own mainly for the trips I take up north to visit family. DF had to wear a jacket as well and he never gets cold. It didn't surprise me at all though because the weather on my birthday the past few years has always been yucky.
Good luck with whatever you decide!

Bride-to-be
03-21-2009, 08:26 AM
Thats sucks about your birthday. Keep your fingers crossed that the weather is better next year!!!

The date is convenient because its the day we leave for the cruise so everyone is already there. At the same time that day will accidentally be our 5 year anniversary.

I saw this - http://fredammons.com/wedding/index_files/Page1086.htm

and now I don't know what I want. Does anyone know what they use for a backup for the castle venue if it does rain?

MiaBella05
03-23-2009, 08:45 AM
good luck with everything!! :wizard:

CharacterFan
03-23-2009, 08:48 AM
and now I don't know what I want. Does anyone know what they use for a backup for the castle venue if it does rain?

The Wedding Pavilion, is my guess. Since it's an 8am ceremony then the Wedding Pavilion will be open.

Bride-to-be
03-23-2009, 08:52 AM
The Wedding Pavilion, is my guess. Since it's an 8am ceremony then the Wedding Pavilion will be open.

So if it does rain and it is moved to the wedding pavillion - are you charged for the wedding pavilion plus all of the extras or are you still charged for the castle package?

CharacterFan
03-23-2009, 08:55 AM
So if it does rain and it is moved to the wedding pavillion - are you charged for the wedding pavilion plus all of the extras or are you still charged for the castle package?

I don't know, my guess is still the castle package, and you'll still get the floral and photo and video and everything. I'd say maybe you could email your wedding consultant and check with them.

Bride-to-be
03-23-2009, 09:05 AM
I don't know, my guess is still the castle package, and you'll still get the floral and photo and video and everything. I'd say maybe you could email your wedding consultant and check with them.

Thanks! I still haven't even heard if its available yet so I think its going to be a long time before I can ask and get answers about other stuff like rain.

CharacterFan
03-23-2009, 09:18 AM
Thanks! I still haven't even heard if its available yet so I think its going to be a long time before I can ask and get answers about other stuff like rain.

I'd check on that before signing the contract. I've been checking on locations for my ceremony, and I can't even see if they're available yet, and I've been asking about rain locations if they are outdoors. They can tell you the backup location, because that's a set thing. Even if they can't tell you if it's available yet.

Bride-to-be
03-23-2009, 11:47 AM
I am just waiting for them to email me back. I thought it would be such a quick thing and its taking forever. I figure I will wait until wed and if I still haven't heard anything I will try emailing again.

Last week our consultant was soooo good at emails - I guess he is having a really busy week.

Skylarr29
03-23-2009, 12:42 PM
I am just waiting for them to email me back. I thought it would be such a quick thing and its taking forever. I figure I will wait until wed and if I still haven't heard anything I will try emailing again.

Last week our consultant was soooo good at emails - I guess he is having a really busy week.


He might be waiting on other people so it might take a while. It says on the website dates subject to availability which I take to mean that they need to check with MK personnel before confirming the date and time.

Your contract will state the back up locations but definitely ask. When we were planning our rehearsal dinner in AK the back up location was Pizzafari... I was mortified but nothing I could do except hope for good weather.

January isn't usually very rainy so you should be safe.

irisbud
03-23-2009, 05:52 PM
Wow, I can't even imagine doing my wedding in the morning and then coordinating everyone to get through a reception breakfast, get changed, and get to Port Canavrel. The boat may not leave until late in the afternoon, but if you are doing Disney transfers they have pickups that can start as early at 10:30. They dictate your pickup time, not you. If you DON'T do Disney transfers make absolutly certain you get to the port on time. The boat will only wait for the Disney motor coaches (supposedly) if there is a problem with one of them reaching the port on time.

We were at Disney at that time this year and it was very very cold (it rained on that day this year). I was miserable doing our BP shoot in late January; I can't imagine how miserable I would have been during a wedding. Our wedding day was beautiful though so its just luck of the draw. (ETA: miserable uncomfortable and cold, not emotionally miserable; I was elated, LOL)

WDW can make a lot more things happen (for a price) than DCL can. The ship is confined within itself and there may be some requests they simply can't accomodate as they can't just "get more" so to speak when floating at sea. There are all sorts of Coast Guard and USDA rules and regulations.

At any rate, I don't mean to sound negative either, just giving you some things to think about. Your plans sound lovely, and I think it's wonderful you are doing so much for your guests. Try not to stress too much and remember that it is not selfish to think that your wedding day really is ultimately about you and your DH. Make sure it is what YOU want, not what you think will please your guests the most. You don't want to regret it later.

Excited to read more!

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 08:38 AM
Thanks - I have heard a lot about the weather being miserable on Jan 31. But in 2008 it was a high of 72! =o) I think every year before that it was in the 60s which isn't awful just not super pleasant. I realize that that early in morning its going to be chilly.

I asked about chartering a DCL coach and they came back with a price that was unbelieveably low. So I asked if it really was a DCL coach or if it was just a coach. She said she would have to get back to me... I think in the end we are going to end up chartering a DCL coach - either that or a bunch of stretch hummers. I assume its going to be about the same price - but my mom thinks the hummers are tacky and is really pushing for the coach. I really like the video so I am happy either way.

Once we hear if the date is actually available I think we are going to pop down and take another look see at swan boat landing. DF has decided that we can jump on the cruise soon too!!! I am soo excited. He thinks and I agree that its best to go and look at everything ahead of time. There is so much of Castaway Cay that we have never explored. Then we can also speak with the palo manager in person.

Anyhoo I will update you guys as soon as I hear something.

29apr00
03-24-2009, 10:08 AM
I hope you hear on the MK wedding soon!

As for going to speak to the Palo Manager, maybe he can get you some info better then reservations, but chances are he won't be on the ship in January. they are only on the ship for 6 months at a time, then leave to go home on vacation before returning for another 6 months. So it probably wouldn't be the same guy you talk to now, that handles your group in January.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 11:13 AM
I agree..The Wonder's Palo Manager was off contract when we went in July and Marco was filling in for him. Marco was getting ready to fly to CA the following month to be the manager for the Magic when it did the Repo

Same with all the onboard crew. We had Rufaro as our coordinator in July, but she was off when Lisa went in November

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 12:26 PM
GRRRRRR. I guess we need to find out who the manager will be and track him down. Thats sooo frustrating.

Skylarr29
03-24-2009, 12:46 PM
GRRRRRR. I guess we need to find out who the manager will be and track him down. Thats sooo frustrating.


To be honest this is going to sound rude and I am not trying to be rude at all, just trying to tell you how it is.

If I was on your cruise and I scrimped and saved to bring my family on a Disney cruise and then on our night for Palo it was closed because of a private function I would hit the roof.... and so would everyone else who was afflicted. I do not for a minute think they are going to let you have Palo to yourself, they might seat your group together, but to close the restaurant entirely is ludicrous! I mean, you aren't Bob Iger.

A cruise package is a cruise package, it is all inclusive. If it isn't going to suite your needs you need a new game plan. It is an entity onto itself, it can't bring floral, and caterers, and the whole nine yards aboard.

Once again, not trying to be a you know what. I just think you will be sorely disappointed with your line of thinking.

You don't need to have an MK wedding if the Swan Terrace isn't suitable. Have your reception the evening before you leave for the cruise. You can pick a number of great locations.

Good Luck!

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't think you can "track down" who the manager will be. Managers float and I believe they can bid on positions when other managers are off contract.
Maybe they will have a better idea in December of who the manager will be, but certainly not this early

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 02:56 PM
To be honest this is going to sound rude and I am not trying to be rude at all, just trying to tell you how it is.

If I was on your cruise and I scrimped and saved to bring my family on a Disney cruise and then on our night for Palo it was closed because of a private function I would hit the roof.... and so would everyone else who was afflicted. I do not for a minute think they are going to let you have Palo to yourself, they might seat your group together, but to close the restaurant entirely is ludicrous! I mean, you aren't Bob Iger.

A cruise package is a cruise package, it is all inclusive. If it isn't going to suite your needs you need a new game plan. It is an entity onto itself, it can't bring floral, and caterers, and the whole nine yards aboard.

Once again, not trying to be a you know what. I just think you will be sorely disappointed with your line of thinking.

You don't need to have an MK wedding if the Swan Terrace isn't suitable. Have your reception the evening before you leave for the cruise. You can pick a number of great locations.

Good Luck!

I totally see where you are coming from. I understand its a set package. I asked about changing it before we booked and all of the extras we could do before we booked and disney said they refused to discuss it until we had all of our staterooms for us and all of our guests booked. We are all booked. If they didn't want to accomodate us - they should have said no before they made us make reservations. As far as palo goes I have two points - 1) there are 3 other nights people can eat there. If there is another wedding that day onboard then I completely understand that the wedding couple should be allowed to eat there. Everyone else can wait. 2) I didn't ask for it for the whole night - I only asked for it for an hour and a half or so. They said floral was not a problem and that we could have everything done from the disney florist and brought on board. So atleast I know for all of the decor it can just be done through the floral dept. The only thing that really really is driving me crazy is the NO KIDS and if they were willing to give me a reasonable explanation as to why they don't want kids for a private party I would listen. I have asked 4 people multiple times, everyone keeps saying to ask someone else or just saying simply that Palo does not allow kids. I would completely understand if there were other cruise guests there but its just us. So I don't see why its a big deal. Each of the four people we have talked to have said it sounds strange and that they don't understand either. I want to know who this one manager is who is making this decision and I want an explanation from him.

As far as the MK goes I just want to hear if its even available before we keep thinking about it. Its hard just because all along I have pictured the plaza landing so its kind of hard to picture it at swan boat.

I just wish they would get back to me!!!!!! ugh.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 03:39 PM
One thing is when kids go into Palo for a CC reception, there is no cooking going on in the kitchen..maybe that has something to do with the no children

I have been on the cruise with a large group of over 75 people (including both Cat 1's) and they wouldn't even do a private brunch time for us on the 7 day cruise despite the group throwing money at them..
as they told our TA, they have only so many spots and too many people wanting to fill them to offer a private meal

Skylarr29
03-24-2009, 03:49 PM
Well it does suck that they told you they weren't willing to discuss things with you until after you booked the cruise. It is misleading in a sense. I agree that 'if' they did allow a private function, what does it matter if children are there. I am a TA so I realize you are now stuck in between a rock and a hard place because you have put deposits on suites and they are non refundable.

At least Disney floral can provide the flowers, what day of the cruise is your wedding, will they last? That's a positive!

I would be frustrated too without knowing if the MK wedding is even a possibility. I know it is hard but you do have time. Perhaps come up with a back up plan just in case the first two ideas fall through?

tiggersam00
03-24-2009, 03:57 PM
thats a tough spot for sure... I bet this is where Disney is coming in terms of Palo. Since it is listed as an "adults only" restaurant for everyone of the thousands of guests on board they cannot make exceptions for one party to bring kids, then others would expect it as well... I know its not a fun answer or the answer you were hoping for, but Disney is pretty firm with their set rules I have learned. Would you consider a restaurant on boards that would allow kids to be at the meal?? I bet they would set up an area for you, but as others have said, I do not think you will be the only people in the restaurant though, no matter what amount of time:sad1:There are just too many people on board to cut out an hour and a half of meal time, it wouldn't be fair to the other people on the cruise.


And about MK that can be frusterating not hearing back from people for sure, but maybe if the Swan plaza isn't what you had hoped start looking at other locations. There are so many beautiful spots in WDW I am sure you will find one you love just as much:goodvibes

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 04:32 PM
I guess. We aren't completely locked into anything because we can get the suites back as a credit and use it towards our baltic cruise next summer. The only big problem is that they we contacted them about all of this in November and they didn't get back to us about the kids problem until a few days after the save the dates were already sent (end of Feb). So all of our guests are already looking forward to it. My parents are even more frustrated with disney than I am at the moment. If the cruise and the castle don't work I think we are going to end up switching cruise lines. My parents have already spoken with a number of other cruise lines who don't think what we want would be a problem in the slightest - everyone else seems to be far more accomodating without even requiring puting reservations on hold or even deposits down. Customer Service wise they have all gotten back to my parents instantly. It makes me really dissapointed in Disney. I think its kind of a grim alternative - but it would be much less stressful.

We would be married the third day of the cruise supposedly they can keep all of the flowers in a walk in cooler until then.

After the Palo manager said no to the children he apparently recommended that we have dinner in the Beach Blanket and offered to put a table cloth on our table. I was really really insulted. I DO NOT like the beach blanket. It would be a set menu and would have to be served family style. We would have to stare at the empty buffet - I think it would be horrible!

Now if it was warm enough to do it outside the beach blanket on the deck - thats a different story - but they haven't offered it.

So then after that they came up with dinner at 4pm in studio sea - which is just too early and would require an enormous amount of work to get that place ship shape for dinner. Can you imagine trying to eat dinner at one of the little cocktail tables? Its a plus that it has a stage for a band and dance floor but it just won't work.

DF is soooo angry. Thats why he thinks we should just accept the PP offer for Palo with no kids. We asked some of his family about it and they said it was no big deal one parent would sit outside with the kids and then half way through they would just switch. I can't imagine having half of our party sitting outside palo with children waiting for a chance to come in and quickly eat as fast as possible so they can go back outside and sit in the little palo lobby with their kids. I just don't think its going to work. DF doesn't seem to care as much and figures as long as its palo who cares.

I thought it would be so perfect to make the private party room a kids room and put coloring books and stuff in there. We could even hire one of the disney counselors to hang with them.

I just wish that they would all step up the customer service a notch and get back to me - even if they don't have anything to say it would be nice if they just said "we want you to know we are still working on this - we will let you know as soon as we know something more".

Sigh. One of my co-workers just cancelled her at home wedding and moved it to an all inclusive in the bahamas. It seems so tempting.

Has anyone heard if the disney resort in Hawaii is going to offer wedding packages?

Skylarr29
03-24-2009, 06:17 PM
I have heard that the Hawaii DVC will have a Wedding Pavilion but I don't know for sure if that is just speculation. The resort is not scheduled to open until 2011 I believe.

Why can't you just send the kids to the kids clubs? No need for parents to sit outside, that is just silly. The kids will have a blast and the parents can have fun too. So many receptions are adults only.

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 06:29 PM
The parents in his family are kind of different. They don't ever use babysitters and they never go away without their kids. If they ever have to do something without the kids then one of their parents or a sibling will watch the kids - and this goes for all of the families on his side.

We took his sister and nephew on the magic a few years ago and she didn't have a problem with the kids clubs - but others in the family have expressed that they don't want to leave their kids in any of the kids clubs unless they are there with them. (maybe that will change once they are there and see them..?) None of the parents with small kids (under 3) are willing to use the nursery - they have made that REALLY clear.

Trust me we have asked about it. Everyone is super nice and telling me its no big deal and that they will make it work and we shouldn't worry about it.

I just fear by "making it work" they will all just go to the normal dinner as scheduled and skip Palo completely which would make Palo a waste of time if most of our guests don't come.

I wish the Palo Manager would give a reason for his decisions. If he has a reasonable explanation then I will drop it completely and move on to something else.

29apr00
03-24-2009, 06:37 PM
which private room in Palo are you talking about? The room i"m reserving in Palo after our VR only holds 14 people, and it's inside Palo, so the guests have to walk thru the main area where other guests are. That's why they won't allow children in the private room.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 06:37 PM
how many kids are there?

One year, we had one of the teens in our group watch the kids in the Walt..maybe you could a counselor to come to the room and watch the kids.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 06:43 PM
ok..it has to be said..you have posted several times on other threads that you fear your guests would skip the wedding/reception if you had your wedding in the park or reception in Palo..

Who on earth would have the nerve to skip a family members wedding? Especially a family member who just paid for their vacation??

If I thought someone was going to skip my wedding if I didn't plan a way for them to be unable to skip it, I would not invite them

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 06:44 PM
I figured that if we had palo to ourselves we could put the 12 kids in the private room and if need be we could hire a counselor (only $10 per kid). I would think that the two infants would probably stay in their strollers for most of it near their moms. That way all of the parents are right there and can keep an eye on their kids and still have fun at dinner with us.

I don't think they would go for leaving them alone with a counselor especially in one of the suites - too far away. =o(

Thanks for the idea though!

29apr00
03-24-2009, 06:53 PM
Do any of your family members have a Nanny or Au-Pair that could come on the cruise to watch the kids during the reception??

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 06:56 PM
ok..it has to be said..you have posted several times on other threads that you fear your guests would skip the wedding/reception if you had your wedding in the park or reception in Palo..

Who on earth would have the nerve to skip a family members wedding? Especially a family member who just paid for their vacation??

If I thought someone was going to skip my wedding if I didn't plan a way for them to be unable to skip it, I would not invite them

Oh no no no I don't think they would acutally skip a disney world reception. No one is that rude. I just fear that the families with kids would rather be in the parks and experiencing disney. Most of them haven't been before so it would be a first trip for them. For first trips there is always sooo much pressure to get EVERYTHING done. Its always so stressful.

For people like us and our friends who have been a lot before it would be no big deal and def more fun to be at the wedding reception. I just keep thinking if I were a kid I would rather be at disney on all of the rides and watching the fireworks etc.

I want everyone to have a lot of fun and have a vacation without having to revolve everything around us. I figure if the ceremony is really informal then its easy - and everyone has to go to dinner so if we just swapped out the restaurant for a night they wouldn't miss anything. We have TAAP dining. So everyone would just miss animators palate one night - but still get to experience it the night before. That way I don't think they are missing out on anything. If the whole thing is over around the same time that dinner would typically end then they wouldn't miss any of the evening activites on the ship either.

As far as skipping Palo goes - its just that most parents in our party are not willing to seperate from their kids and so by choosing that venue knowing that kids would have to be seperated we would know ahead of time that not everyone would be there. DFs sister said that her husband and kids could wait outside and they could just keep switching places and suggested that most of the family would follow suit. Who wants to do that though... What a pain.

Its supposed to be a family friendly wedding on a family friendly ship - I have to keep it that way.

Besides I really like most of the kids - I want them to be there.

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 07:02 PM
Do any of your family members have a Nanny or Au-Pair that could come on the cruise to watch the kids during the reception??

One of DFs cousins who I am good friends with suggested that her mother in law (who came to disney with us last year) really wanted to come to watch her kids. I told her I didn't think we could afford another stateroom. =o( I am trying to keep the budget as realistic as possible. I don't think they would ever want to pay for one on their own. I don't mind splurging on the reception -whatever it costs, but I really want the kids to be a part of it, I would want all of the parents there to be comfortable and at ease and not have to worry about the kids.

If it gives you a better idea in his family usually all of the kids are invited to family weddings. If the kids aren't invited then usually the parents don't travel without them. If it were a local wedding maybe they would leave the kids with a family member? I don't know. I know it sounds weird. Its just how is family is. Where as in my family kids were never ever invited to weddings. I wasn't invited to a wedding until I was in high school.

Just strange.

DF thinks that I should just forget about the kids and let the parents deal. Sigh. I don't know....

Starr W.
03-24-2009, 07:04 PM
I have heard that the Hawaii DVC will have a Wedding Pavilion but I don't know for sure if that is just speculation. The resort is not scheduled to open until 2011 I believe.

Why can't you just send the kids to the kids clubs? No need for parents to sit outside, that is just silly. The kids will have a blast and the parents can have fun too. So many receptions are adults only.

I think it's for sure on the HI DVC wedding area(I've seen the sketches of the resort and I believe it's open air, not an enclosed building). They just started digging out there as some of the JW Marriott guests have been complaining on Trip Advisor about the noise. We're going for 2-3 weeks next summer, been bracing myself for the sticker shock of air fare for 4. We've done Europe many times so I won't be too :scared1:.

We used to go to a great resort in Northern Michigan that had a great kids club, room for babies, toddlers and up. My 7 yr olds been doing "kiddie clubs" since he's been 2. He has always loved it, always "makes a friend or 2". Now the 12 yr old sulks, but ends up having fun.

Drop them off for all day, 1/2 day or just for an adult only dinner. Great in the winter because they would take them to and from their ski lessons.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 07:15 PM
This was your first post..
Basically we decided we wanted to do a cruise wedding over a disney world wedding because we thought it would be much less stressful for us and our guests (especially those with kids). I was scared at Disney World that guests might prefer to be in the parks doing rides instead of at our wedding

and who gave you the in room counselor information..because DCL has always strictly refused to do this..even in the parks, it is a subcontractor who does in room sitting


please don't count on TAAP as your rotation..I have NEVER had a rotation be the one that we were promised by concierge.
4 cruises, we have always had to go down to the club after boarding and have our rotation changed..and they also twice had us on the first dining despite being asked for late

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 07:17 PM
Hey Starr - I wish they would go for the kids clubs!!!

I am super excited about the hawaii project. Are you guys going to stay at the Marriott next summer? I would get a airline CC and start saving miles. We are going to try to go after disney opens in 2011.

Its too bad that southwest doesn't fly there anymore.

Bride-to-be
03-24-2009, 07:30 PM
This was your first post..

and who gave you the in room counselor information..because DCL has always strictly refused to do this..even in the parks, it is a subcontractor who does in room sitting


please don't count on TAAP as your rotation..I have NEVER had a rotation be the one that we were promised by concierge.
4 cruises, we have always had to go down to the club after boarding and have our rotation changed..and they also twice had us on the first dining despite being asked for late


We are doing the early dining - I thought it would be best with the kids. We have always had the time we requested - with no problems. Our groups person said that she put us into that rotation. I have never requested a specific rotation before so I don't have much experience with it. Thanks for the warning though I won't get my hopes up on it.

Our groups person told us about it for the beach day and then onboard for that day if it rains $10 per person to keep everyone including kids entertained by counselors. I just figured if they could do it on the beach/on board, if we could get kids into Palo that they would allow us to do it for the little room. This is all assuming we have the entire place to ourselves. Even if they don't allow a counselor a babysitter would be fine - since all fo the parents would be 20 feet away. We really don't NEED someone the kids I am sure would be fine by themselves or they could just join all the adults for dinner and skip the little room. I don't think having the kids all hang in one of the suites would work well for us in the first place. I know the rule about the cast members not being allowed in the rooms, I never realized the babysitters were subcontractors - I just thought they were specially trained. I am always learning new things!

In the first post I was meaning more families with kids most of our guests are coming with their kids for the first time. My family and the older people in our party I don't think will care about the parks. Just those with young kids.

Skylarr29
03-24-2009, 07:35 PM
You can invite me and I will watch all the kids... I dont' need a suite lol! :laughing:

CharacterFan
03-24-2009, 07:36 PM
I don't mean this in a bad way, but would you want someone at your wedding that would rather be in the parks, then seeing you and your DF on your special day?

I'd say go with the MK wedding and reception it's going to give you what you want. It doesn't appear that the Crusie Line is going to be able to accomidate everything that you want. If you're only asking for Palo for an hour and a half, they may open later for reservations, and kids are messy and a lot to clean up after. I can understand them not allowing kids.

DisneyDmbNut
03-24-2009, 07:39 PM
i really think you are giving WAY too much faith to children..even the best kids will get bored in that little room and not want to stay away from the adults in the dining room..and there is a large wall unit with glass and breakables..i would not leave a child unattended in there

I also know that we were in the room from 6pm until 8:30 when they kicked us out for the next party and there was only 13 of us..there wouldn't be enough time to seat, serve and clean up after 50 or so people in that time

Starr W.
03-25-2009, 07:31 AM
Hey Starr - I wish they would go for the kids clubs!!!

I am super excited about the hawaii project. Are you guys going to stay at the Marriott next summer? I would get a airline CC and start saving miles. We are going to try to go after disney opens in 2011.

Its too bad that southwest doesn't fly there anymore.

You can't be joined at your kids's hip forever, and they need some "kid time" just as much as you need "adult time".

We have a couple of other Timeshares other than DVC, last November I traded into Wyndham Kona Hawaiian for July 2010 with one of them. Now I have my big gun my Starwood ski resort in Avon/Beaver Creek CO deposited hoping to get a week either at one of the Starwood's on Maui or Kauai or perhaps any of the Marriott's out in HI.

We've stayed in a few of the Marriott timeshares and to be honest the room layouts are superior to DVC's.


Good Luck in whatever you decide to do, can't believe you have guests that would blow off your wedding ceremony to go to a park. :eek:

Starr W.
03-25-2009, 08:02 AM
This was your first post..

and who gave you the in room counselor information..because DCL has always strictly refused to do this..even in the parks, it is a subcontractor who does in room sitting


please don't count on TAAP as your rotation..I have NEVER had a rotation be the one that we were promised by concierge.
4 cruises, we have always had to go down to the club after boarding and have our rotation changed..and they also twice had us on the first dining despite being asked for late

I've been on a number of cruises with different lines and we would always go and check after boarding to see about dining sittings. Most of the time they were not what was requested(early if you wanted late, late if you wanted early). :headache:

irisbud
03-25-2009, 08:28 AM
Cassie,

I hope you do not think I am being rude or forward, but I think you are trying too hard to accomodate your guests. There are many events in life that children simply are not invited to. Period. As adults, they should understand this. :upsidedow

If YOU want the children there, then it sounds like you are going to have to be more flexible. From what you have posted, DCL has offered you two alternatives: Beach Blanket or Studio Sea. You did not like either of them. I think, though, it is unfair to say that DCL is not trying to work with you. You may not like the options they are giving you, but they ARE giving you options. You will simply have to decide if you would prefer to have the children with you in a venue you may not be crazy about, or take the venue you desire and not have the children with you. Many brides make this choice every day in locations around the world. :guilty:

Again, I am genuinely not trying to be rude. :goodvibes I sincerely hope that you can have the wedding you desire. Most people do have to make comprimises somewhere though, be they in budget, timing, venue, extras, etc. If the DCL package won't work for you it won't work. There will only be so much flexibility. You can't fit a square peg into a round hole and you'll make yourself miserable trying. Either work with what they are willing to give you or find a viable alternative. You'll be much happier when you do. :thumbsup2

Best wishes and :wizard: to you!

29apr00
03-25-2009, 08:48 AM
I agree 100% with above poster! There are 2000+ other people on the ship that will be trying to get into Palo also. Even with "3 other days" not everyone will get in. It's unfair to assume that just because you asked for it, everyone else should be denied access to Palo on your wedding day. If you cancel and take your 60 guests and cabins to another ship, it's not like Disney is going to have a rough time filling the cabins back up again.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 09:25 AM
I don't know what to do. I torn and really tempted to just change the whole venue. I wish disney would get back to me about the castle.

Goldeelox9
03-25-2009, 09:35 AM
Why don't you call them back about the Castle? Call everyday until you get your answer!

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 09:38 AM
I really really like our WDW consultant - he's really nice. I don't really want to bug him as impatient as I am. I told myself after a week I would send an email. Today is the one week mark. I am thinking I should be patient and wait a little longer.

Goldeelox9
03-25-2009, 10:16 AM
EMAIL HIM.....Don't wait. This is YOUR wedding. You have a right to have answers.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 10:25 AM
Ok I emailed him. I also asked about the rain - so for anyone who is curious hopefully I will have an answer soon.

Thank you!

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 02:40 PM
So the Castle is AVAILABLE!!!!! =o)

But its going to be under construction!!!!!! =o(

"After researching this date, we feel comfortable approving this request for a MK ceremony. However, we have heard discussion from our Projects team that sometime in early 2010, Cinderella's Castle may experience a significant refurbishment that could include: Castle Ramp work, draining of the moat and scrim on the Castle itself. I will keep you updated when we get more accurate dates, but please make sure your clients are aware of this possibility."

UGHHHHHHHH What to do????!!!!!!!

If it rains then we get moved to the wedding pavillion and no I don't know if we still pay the same price or not - still waiting to hear.

29apr00
03-25-2009, 03:27 PM
Hmmmm.....tough decision. I think i would chance it on the hopes that they would wait until after your wedding to do anything. I mean, I don't think they would do anything to the castle until after they are done with Christmas.

beach bride 2010
03-25-2009, 03:31 PM
If I were you I think I would forget about the cruise line ceremony and have one at the Parks. I think that with what you are asking for you would be much happier with a ceremony at WDW. The cruise line seems to be very limited in what they can offer and there are a lot of things that they simply can not change even if you offer them a ridiculous amount of $. I don't know what your budget is but it seems like it is pretty high. What about renting out a park or at least part of a park and doing a ceremony and reception there? I would think the other parks would be cheaper to rent out than MK and the cost you would pay would probably include both your ceremony and reception. Would you be okay with doing an in park wedding anywhere else or are you absolutely set on it being at the castle? When you rent out a park (or part of one) it is after park hours and closed to other guests and as far as I know there are no age restrictions so your entire party would also be there to celebrate with you and you wouldn't have to worry about them wanting to be elsewhere.
I don't know that I would chance doing the castle ceremony on Jan 31st. Jan/early Feb are common months for Disney to do major construction projects. When they do construction on the castle they usually do try to hide it from the Guests as much as possible though. I have no idea what website you got the high temp for 2008 from either but I can't remember it being warm that day at all. We stayed at the Wilderness Lodge for my birthday that year and I remember leaving the Parks because it was miserably cold and drizzly and we decided we'd rather just hang out at the hotel. This year the weather wasn't any better and when you look on some of the internet websites it seems to give you temps that were in the mid 60's and no precipitation. That is definitely wrong. I've learned to expect a cold, rainy birthday because it's been that way for more than half of the 10 years I've lived in Orlando. It doesn't usually rain in the early morning when you'd be having your ceremony so you'd probably be okay in that respect but it is quite cold.
Can you and your fiancee take a trip to Orlando sometime in the near future and look around for a location in one of the Parks or the hotels that you really like? Is there maybe a specific location other than the castle that is really special to you two? Maybe you could scope out a location, meet with a wedding planner, and work from there. Also, I know it would be a pain since you are planning on the cruise but have you looked into Disneyland? Their castle to me is just like Hong Kong Disneyland's (which you said would be your first choice), you said they do an in park ceremony for a lot cheaper than WDW, and it's only a 5 hour flight from Florida. Good luck with whatever you decide!

tinks_1989
03-25-2009, 03:46 PM
Oh wow cant wait to hear more about that how exciting you might get married in front of the castle i am very jealous of you lol x x x

CharacterFan
03-25-2009, 04:04 PM
I think you should go with the castle. And if you don't like the Wedding Pavilion see if they'll let you set American Adventure as your rain location. It's a beautiful site. Disney World is going to be much easier to custimize to what you want.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 04:24 PM
I would hope they would wait but doesn't christmas come down on like Jan 1? My little sister just pointed out too that part of the moat runs behind swan boat landing so that could be empty too which might be a disaster....

Our budget really isn't high at all. Its kind of low I think compared to a lot of other peoples. The cruise just eats up most of it. I got the temp info from weather underground or some site like that. It however didn't say anything about rain - so it could have easily rained the entire day when it was warmer.

The frustrating part of all of this is that we both know the parks and most of the hotels like the back of our hands - inside and out. I keep thinking and I can't think of anything that I think they would let us do that I really really like.

I don't think we could ever afford to "rent out a park" for even part of an evening. Do you guys have any idea what something like that would cost? If its in teh budget I would totally go for it but I don't think its anything anywhere near what we could afford - or everyone else would be doing it too.

I just had a long talk with DF -he is beyond frustrated with DCL - but doesn't want to cancel the cruise part of it. He also doesn't want to have to get up so early for a castle wedding - even if it is the castle. He claims he wants to enjoy the day and not be super tired and have to run to the boat. So I can see where he is coming from - but neither of us can seem to come up with something we like more. He thought we should keep the ceremony as planned on Castaway Cay (which I am fine with) and then have a big reception the night that we get back to WDW. The only problem with that is that all of our guests who may have been planning to leave and go home after the cruise then have to stay another night and buy park tickets for another day if they choose to go to the parks during the day. Neither of us want to inconvenience anyone, because we certainly wouldn't be able to afford ANOTHER night at disney for everyone. So DF agreed thats out too.

We are both torn...

As for Disneyland - it would be even more expensive!!!! Hong Kong would be soo much cheaper but its such a long flight. We could do hong kong for a week at the disneyland hotel (GF equivalent) with annual park passes, RT economy air and a ceremony and small reception for all of our guests for less than a WDW wedding. If I thought people would be willing to sit on a plane for that long then I would have booked it there long ago. Its like almost 6 hours to CA so whats an extra 10 to get to hong kong? Before when we were trying to decide where to have it we thought - do we have it at hong kong where we want it and not have all of our friends and family there or do we move it closer to home so that most everyone can attend.... So thats how we got to the cruise.

pink_tink8i8
03-25-2009, 04:29 PM
I didn't know that you also wanted to do the castle!!!

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 04:29 PM
I think you should go with the castle. And if you don't like the Wedding Pavilion see if they'll let you set American Adventure as your rain location. It's a beautiful site. Disney World is going to be much easier to custimize to what you want.

I am kind of leaning towards the castle too and risking there being no water around us. I just have to talk DF into it. I feel like it would be so much easier then we could all just enjoy the cruise.

Have you guys ever seen any pictures or videos of a swan boat landing wedding? I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING. If I didn't know better I would think that it has never been done.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 04:31 PM
I didn't know that you also wanted to do the castle!!!

HAHA thats why I sent you that PM with all of the questions!!! We are really considering it - just because I could wear my dress and not have to worry about having a formal reception on the boat. We then wouldn't ahve to worry about anything on the boat... :o)

Skylarr29
03-25-2009, 04:37 PM
Have you thought about having a wedding the night before. There are great locations at both Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom and you don't have to rent out the park, you just have to start two hours after park closing so you could have a 7pm ceremony and then an in park reception.

Options are Great Movie Ride, Tower of Terror courtyard, Narnia, Fantasmic dessert party/cocktail hour, Hollywood Brown Derby, Hollywood Hide Out, and Animators Building

AK options are Tamu Tamu courtyard, Harambe, Tusker House, Festival of the Lion King.

Just trying to offer suggestions, no one here can really completely understand what exactly you are looking for but hope that helps.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 04:54 PM
Have you thought about having a wedding the night before. There are great locations at both Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom and you don't have to rent out the park, you just have to start two hours after park closing so you could have a 7pm ceremony and then an in park reception.

Options are Great Movie Ride, Tower of Terror courtyard, Narnia, Fantasmic dessert party/cocktail hour, Hollywood Brown Derby, Hollywood Hide Out, and Animators Building

AK options are Tamu Tamu courtyard, Harambe, Tusker House, Festival of the Lion King.

Just trying to offer suggestions, no one here can really completely understand what exactly you are looking for but hope that helps.

Thanks! I don't think I even know exactly what I am looking for which complicates it all. Before I really wanted to do the beauty and the beast venue at MGM. Negatives are that it could be really cold and its outside and wouldn't be as quick as just a ceremony. Other negatives are that its almost as expensive as the castle wedding - so feelings were sort of why not pay a little more and have the castle. We LOVE the brown derby but its too big for a small party. Fantasmic goes back to being not so kid friendly - even though I think it could be fun. Same with all of the dessert parties - they could be a lot of fun but could also be stressful if peoples planes are late and whatnot.

I figured if its the morning of the cruise then atleast everyone will have arrived and gotten some sleep.

I am sorry to bug you guys with all of this and I completely agree that if we knew what we wanted or even what direction we wanted to go in it would be sooooo much easier.

I guess we just have a lot of thinking to do.

pink_tink8i8
03-25-2009, 04:55 PM
ohhhh sorry I mixed you up with somebody else. A few people have IMed me with castle questions. Swan boat landing in on the side of the castle with the moat as the background, the castle is in the back background. I want to see what it looks like with the decorations. I saw the decorations for sleeping beauty's castle at disneyland and I wasn't impressed at all. It looked cheap.

Bride-to-be
03-25-2009, 04:58 PM
I want to see what it looks like with the decorations. I saw the decorations for sleeping beauty's castle at disneyland and I wasn't impressed at all. It looked cheap.

I asked our consultant if they had any pictures or videos of other weddings there. If they do send me anything I will pass it along to you.

PixyDusted
03-25-2009, 10:08 PM
:surfweb: Reading....

Wow, sounds like you have a lot of decisions to make! Show us pictures though! It's so nice to put names with faces. I'd love to see some shots of you and John...especially with that amazing proposal? I bet you have some awesome photos!! :goodvibes

padisneyfour
03-26-2009, 05:17 AM
so many options to decide upon..... good luck! from a beach wedding to an MK ceremony- WOW! then add in a cruise too.....:faint:

tiggersam00
03-26-2009, 08:40 AM
wow, you sure do have some choices to make! It sounds like you are being very indecisive because you are worried about other people being inconvinenced. Just focus on what you want, if your guests want to be there they will, if not it's their loss! I think you should do what will make you and your DF the most at ease, I have been to many different weddings and the bride or groom has never asked me "Is this ok with you?", I am just a guest. So do what you want not everyone else.

Bride-to-be
03-26-2009, 09:55 AM
Ok so I have to sit down and figure out how to put pictures up at the bottom. I will try to work on it when I get home. I have been putting it off forever.

So DF and I had a long long talk last night. He says he is fine for the castle, even though its not exactly his first choice of the beach, he said he understands my wanting to be a princess and wants me to be happy. BUT he hates Swan Boat Landing. He said he refused to be married there. He said if we could do it on the castle steps, in front of the castle or even on the rose garden lawn he would be game. UGH. So more emails with question to our consultant. We completely ruled out getting married and having a reception the night before when everyone arrives and we also ruled out having a reception at disney after the cruise. We are both scared peoples flights may be delayed coming in and we figure not everyone will want to stay at disney after the cruise and we don't want to spend the money on another nights hotel room for everyone. So both of those are out.

So its down to these choices - if we can get kids into Palo we are going to stick with the original cruise beach wedding plan. Assuming we can't, then the castle is our next choice but only if we can have the ceremony some place other than Swan Boat Landing. That would also go hand in hand with the construction not being to major on that day. I am really hoping that option works out. If neither of those two options work then we are back to the drawing board. I am first going to wait and hear about the castle. Then I am going to start working on getting kids into palo.

Goldeelox9
03-26-2009, 10:08 AM
So did DCL say you could have Palo to yourself for the night without the kids?

Soundslike you have alot to think about! Keep us up to date?

Skylarr29
03-26-2009, 11:19 AM
So I have a serious question and I don't mean to be rude and you can tell me it's none of my business lol! :rotfl2:

But why are you paying for everyone's cruise and hotel room? It is not customary or expected for the bride/groom to pay for their guests to get to a destination wedding. I think you are spending so much money there that you are cutting back on what you actually want for your wedding. Cancel the suites and put their butts in inside staterooms - Cat 12 baby. They should be thankful they are even going for free! :goodvibes

Bride-to-be
03-26-2009, 12:14 PM
HAHA not everyone is in suites - I think we only have like 6 of them and its just immediate families and best friends staying in them. Everyone else is in cat 4s. Reasons being 1) some are families of 5 and have to be in a cat4. 2) DF and I have never stayed in anything less than a cat4. We usually stay in what I consider to be "my stateroom" where we have ALWAYS stayed. It wasn't available on the last med cruise we did so we had to stay in a cat 4 which we liked - it was fine. I would have thought to put everyone in cat 4s and just do "my stateroom" for us - except when I called to ask about availability they said the big suites were all open - we have never ever ever been able to get the big ones so I snatched them up as fast as I could. It actually is cheaper than the cat 4s because you can put more people in them. I suggested to DF that we stay in a cat 12 for a quick 3 day sometime soon (assuming we go with the beach DCL ceremony) and he wasn't too keen on the idea.

I feel like if we had stayed in a cat12 or something similar before I would feel a lot more comfortable putting guests there. I priced it all out and it really wasn't that much more expensive to keep everyone it cat 4s. Since most of the rooms have families in them the bulk of the cost is just the first two people anyway. If it were a huge difference in price I would certainly downgrade a bit.

Also I wouldn't want the families of 5 to be in a cat 4 then have other people in the family who we like just as much or even more to have to be in an inside stateroom - its just not fair to have the discrepency.

So we are paying for them because no one (or very few) would be able to afford to come otherwise. We want everyone there - so thats why we have devoted almost all of our budget to it. We love the cruise and we want to share the experience with everyone.

As for the hotel- I would never have done it - BUT we don't want people trying to save money and fly in the day of the cruise- have their plane be delayed and miss the boat. Almost everyone is coming from way up north and planes are ALWAYS delayed because of snow and ice in the end of Jan. So its not that much.. We are skipping trip insurance so the costs about even out.

My sister is planning a typical at home wedding for one evening - standard dinner/flowers/band everything - we are still way under her costs.

I think the cruise is a good value. I wish we had a magical budget but in this economy we just have a normal budget like everyone else.

Skylarr29
03-26-2009, 12:23 PM
Those are all very good reasons. Can I join your family, lol!! :rotfl: We paid for a few of our guests because they couldn't afford to come but it was members of the bridal party, not everyone lol! I would never have been able to have spent what I did otherwise.

Bride-to-be
03-26-2009, 12:29 PM
Those are all very good reasons. Can I join your family, lol!! :rotfl: We paid for a few of our guests because they couldn't afford to come but it was members of the bridal party, not everyone lol! I would never have been able to have spent what I did otherwise.

Sure you are welcome to - we would love to have you!! We just can't afford any more staterooms =o(

If I win the lottery I will let you know!

Skylarr29
03-26-2009, 12:35 PM
Sure you are welcome to - we would love to have you!! We just can't afford any more staterooms =o(

If I win the lottery I will let you know!


He he, I'm just joking. Our Little One will be too small! I am dying to take him or her on a Disney cruise though, we took one for our honeymoon and LOVED it!

Bride-to-be
03-26-2009, 12:57 PM
He he, I'm just joking. Our Little One will be too small! I am dying to take him or her on a Disney cruise though, we took one for our honeymoon and LOVED it!

HAHA we have a few infants already coming!

So do you guys have names picked out yet? You must be pretty excited!

Skylarr29
03-26-2009, 01:00 PM
HAHA we have a few infants already coming!

So do you guys have names picked out yet? You must be pretty excited!

I'm very excited. At this point our baby might be nameless until we take him/her home from the hospital. We can't seem to agree on anything lol. I am sure once we are nearing the deadline we will choose something!

DCLbrideSept2009
03-26-2009, 01:37 PM
ok, there's something i don't quite understand... if you decide to do the WDW wedding instead of DCL, why would you all still be going on the cruise? wouldn't that help costs and schedule (not having to rush to the boat after the wedding/reception)??? Maybe I missed something?:confused3

DisneyDmbNut
03-26-2009, 02:59 PM
I'm very excited. At this point our baby might be nameless until we take him/her home from the hospital. We can't seem to agree on anything lol. I am sure once we are nearing the deadline we will choose something!

ya know, they don't let you take them home until you name them:rotfl:

Skylarr29
03-26-2009, 03:14 PM
ya know, they don't let you take them home until you name them:rotfl:

Darn, I was planning on calling him no-name for a few weeks!

DisneyDmbNut
03-26-2009, 03:15 PM
they were talking on the radio this week..many people never change it..it becomes:
female (people pronounce "fa mally")

Bride-to-be
03-26-2009, 04:38 PM
We once had a neighbor come home who didn't have a name for nearly a week! Maybe the rules have changed since - it was quite a few years ago or maybe the rules are done by where you live - not sure.

I am sure one of you will come up with something out of hte blue and it will be perfect! It will come to you.

DCLBrideSept2009 - If we do a castle wedding - we would all have breakfast then jump on the boat.

irisbud
03-26-2009, 05:04 PM
Wow, it looks like you have some really hard decisions to make. I would go for the cruise personally. The castle is lovely, but I think you are going to be so rushed if you do your ceremony there then head for the Wonder afterwards. There will be a tremendous amount of stress involved for both you and your guests.

Castaway is so beautiful. I would do that and then eat in Beach Blanket or Studio Sea as offered. I know these arent your ideal locations but I think you will find yourself so much more relaxed if you go this route.

You will have just gotten married and will be surrounded by people you love. As you know, the whole ship is beautiful and the experience will be unique. I think your guests would enjoy either location and I really think you would too if Palo can't work out.

:goodvibes:

bellaDisneydncr
03-26-2009, 11:03 PM
I would hope they would wait but doesn't christmas come down on like Jan 1?

I was there this year from Jan 3rd-8th and most of the decorations were still up when we left. :goodvibes

Can't wait to hear more about your wedding! It's going to be fantastic either way!

Starr W.
03-27-2009, 07:08 AM
We once had a neighbor come home who didn't have a name for nearly a week! Maybe the rules have changed since - it was quite a few years ago or maybe the rules are done by where you live - not sure.

I am sure one of you will come up with something out of hte blue and it will be perfect! It will come to you.

DCLBrideSept2009 - If we do a castle wedding - we would all have breakfast then jump on the boat.

Here in OH, you have to have all the paper work filled out with baby's name and handed in before they discharge you. It's been that way for at least 13 yrs here.

What does DFTW think of your plans? These are the same WDW people that pick you up for the Disney Magic Express 3 hours before a domestic flight!

What are you doing with all your guests bags? I know they do the Castle wedding at 8, so when will everyone have to have their bags ready to get transfered? Is everyone going to ride the bus in their wedding finery?

I think it might cause a lot of stress for your guests, especially those with the little kids.

pigget74
03-27-2009, 07:33 AM
Here in OH, you have to have all the paper work filled out with baby's name and handed in before they discharge you. It's been that way for at least 13 yrs here.

What does DFTW think of your plans? These are the same WDW people that pick you up for the Disney Magic Express 3 hours before a domestic flight!

What are you doing with all your guests bags? I know they do the Castle wedding at 8, so when will everyone have to have their bags ready to get transfered? Is everyone going to ride the bus in their wedding finery?

I think it might cause a lot of stress for your guests, especially those with the little kids.

Just my 2 cents....This is YOUR DAY! I would think that if you are fine having just a breakfast as a reception then why wouldn't the ship work. Beach Blanket or the other place is not that bad.

From a parent with 4 kids of different ages it would be a lot harder to get in the day before and could possbily be getting in late as it is and then get up early for an 8 wedding---especially if there is time change involved. They would have to get up really early to get everything ready and to the wedding on time. THink how tired they would be before the cruise and how cranky the little ones would be.

Go for the cruise since that is what you really wanted in the beginning--have an awesome time on the beach--have drinks for everyone and most of all--HAVE FUN!! This is your day if the family wants to take turns watching the kids that is fine--this is about you not them. They will know in advance and I promise it will work out. It would be a different story if you did not find out until you got there.

GOOD LUCK!!

pink_tink8i8
03-27-2009, 09:05 AM
It's at swan boat landing. you can't do it at the steps.

Ok so I have to sit down and figure out how to put pictures up at the bottom. I will try to work on it when I get home. I have been putting it off forever.

So DF and I had a long long talk last night. He says he is fine for the castle, even though its not exactly his first choice of the beach, he said he understands my wanting to be a princess and wants me to be happy. BUT he hates Swan Boat Landing. He said he refused to be married there. He said if we could do it on the castle steps, in front of the castle or even on the rose garden lawn he would be game. UGH. So more emails with question to our consultant. We completely ruled out getting married and having a reception the night before when everyone arrives and we also ruled out having a reception at disney after the cruise. We are both scared peoples flights may be delayed coming in and we figure not everyone will want to stay at disney after the cruise and we don't want to spend the money on another nights hotel room for everyone. So both of those are out.

So its down to these choices - if we can get kids into Palo we are going to stick with the original cruise beach wedding plan. Assuming we can't, then the castle is our next choice but only if we can have the ceremony some place other than Swan Boat Landing. That would also go hand in hand with the construction not being to major on that day. I am really hoping that option works out. If neither of those two options work then we are back to the drawing board. I am first going to wait and hear about the castle. Then I am going to start working on getting kids into palo.

CharacterFan
03-27-2009, 10:15 AM
Have you thought about holding the wedding at Disney and having everyone stay and offer a Tour of the World instead of the curise. Since it was a 4 day cruise. You could offer each day a park, and people could join you or not, but you'd show your favorite attractions, shows, and resturants? I honestly think kids would enjoy that more, but I can't do a crusie (there isn't enough for me to do, I'd be bored). Then your not rushed to get to the crusie and can still have the Castle wedding, it sounds like you want. Then if you and DFi want, you can go on the cruise for your honeymoon.

Bride-to-be
03-27-2009, 12:45 PM
I hope the xmas decorations are all down by the 31st. Hopefully they should be. We asked our consultant about changing the location in the MK for the ceremony. I assume its prolly going to take another week to hear. So I am trying to be very patient.

We would end up staying at one of the hotels right next to the MK so that after the ceremony we would either do breakfast in the hotel or after breakfast go back to the hotel let everyone change and pack and then head to the boat. Because we are chartering our own bus (or limos - not sure yet) I think we have control over what time it leaves. I am sure we would with limos - I hope we would with a bus. We don't have to be at the boat until 4 at the lastest and its only a 45 min ride. So I think we have some time.

I have asked all of our immediate family and they think because it would be such an unusual ceremony that people wouldn't mind getting up early and braving the cold.

The whole reason for doing it is so that I can wear the wedding dress that I love so much that won't work for the beach. Its also a little too formal for beach blanket. I think if we did have dinner there I would feel the need to wear shorts and a t-shirt. Part of me really wants to be a princess.

So as I hear more I will post an update. Thanks everyone!

pink_tink8i8
03-27-2009, 01:21 PM
keep us posted! I'm sure everything will work out. You are getting married a couple of months before me so at least I can see your pics if you do the MK location. Very exciting!!!!!! :goodvibes

Skylarr29
03-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Won't you have to have a Disney organized reception though if you have the castle wedding to meet the food and beverage minimums? Just something to think about.

Bride-to-be
03-27-2009, 02:01 PM
You do - food and beverage mins for breakfast I think are 75pp. But I figure instead of going all out with a reception we would just sort of do the bare bones not many flowers not a whole lot of decorations - just breakfast. I thought maybe we could serve mimosas but with pink grapefruit juice instead of OJ - that way they would be pink! Then just have other juices and coffee and tea. Has anyone ever mixed grapefruit juice and champagne - I think its kind of a weird combo - but I feel like it could work. One day I am going to have to try it.

The only thing that I haven't figured out - is that I think it would be weird to have a formal cake at breakfast. Mom mom suggested like a cake made of cinnabons or something. I don't know - its not exactly what I had in mind. I also have no clue as to where the reception would be. I figure I am not going to worry about any of it until I know for sure we are def doing the castle.

Bride-to-be
03-27-2009, 02:08 PM
I just got an email from our consultant. He's so great! I really really like him. He said he was working on other locations in the MK. YAY!!!

Hopefully we will know if its possible next week. =0)

Skylarr29
03-27-2009, 02:09 PM
You do - food and beverage mins for breakfast I think are 75pp. But I figure instead of going all out with a reception we would just sort of do the bare bones not many flowers not a whole lot of decorations - just breakfast. I thought maybe we could serve mimosas but with pink grapefruit juice instead of OJ - that way they would be pink! Then just have other juices and coffee and tea. Has anyone ever mixed grapefruit juice and champagne - I think its kind of a weird combo - but I feel like it could work. One day I am going to have to try it.

The only thing that I haven't figured out - is that I think it would be weird to have a formal cake at breakfast. Mom mom suggested like a cake made of cinnabons or something. I don't know - its not exactly what I had in mind. I also have no clue as to where the reception would be. I figure I am not going to worry about any of it until I know for sure we are def doing the castle.

You can have it at the California Grill. At that time in the morning you can have the whole restaurant and not just the rooms. Then you would be overlooking the Magic Kingdom and castle and you won't need much decorations.

I think you need a cake but thats me. We had a morning ceremony and we had a cake... you need cake at a wedding lol. You can always choose carrot cake or lemon with cream cheese, lemon and raspberry etc. so that it isn't a very heavy flavor.

Bride-to-be
03-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Thats such a good idea!!!! I hadn't thought about the california grill. Then we could just all stay at the contemp - it would be a lot cheaper then the GF. Thanks for the idea!!!

The only thing I had thought about which DF didn't really like was to try to have breakfast inside the castle. I figure that we can't rent it out - but thought that maybe they would just book one giant reservation for us and we could just do the normal breakfast dining as the park opens. I forget what breakfast there costs but I think we would end up paying double and hte other downside is that I am sure that there would be tons of other little princesses there - maybe its not such a good idea. Ok scrap that.

Perhaps the Cali grill is what we should do. The only negative is that we have to stick to their menu. If we were doing a reception reception I really wanted Mickey Beignets, strawberries and cream as a second course and then mickey waffles. Its my favorite disney breakfast. I wonder if they could make the exception.

Oh well I have to wait and see what the options are for the castle ceremony before I jump way ahead of myself.

I do know that no matter where we have the "reception" this is the cake topper I want -

http://fairytalewedding.ibuilder.com/Images/Cslcake.jpg

If we do it on the cruise then ahead of time I would cover it with sticky stuff and brown sugar to make it look like a sand castle - then hopefully the pastry chef can just plop it on a regular butter cream cake or something (don't really care as long as it looks like a sand castle). If we do it at WDW I have no idea what the cake would look like or if I should keep the sand castle idea or just keep the castle white... decisions.

CharacterFan
03-27-2009, 02:34 PM
If you use California Grill, you have to use their menu..no if ands or buts. I loved the idea of California Grill, and were told we could only use their menus, and couldn't customize them. I thought I read with a Magic Kingdom ceremony you had to hold reception at the Grand Floridan or is there an exception for that?

Hopefully you'll hear if you can hold it somewhere else at Magic Kingdom

Starr W.
03-27-2009, 02:37 PM
If you use California Grill, you have to use their menu..no if ands or buts. I loved the idea of California Grill, and were told we could only use their menus, and couldn't customize them. I thought I read with a Magic Kingdom ceremony you had to hold reception at the Grand Floridan or is there an exception for that?

Hopefully you'll hear if you can hold it somewhere else at Magic Kingdom

I think you are right about having your reception at GF for the MK ceremony.

Bride-to-be
03-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Our consultant just said that "The only weddings we had in the Magic Kingdom was the early morning wedding with the reception at one of our Convention Centers."

So I don't know. Maybe that is the case - if it is I guess we would end up staying at the GF and maybe they would let us use the whitehall room or something. I really don't know much about the reception options.

We will just have to wait and see what happens with the ceremony. I don't want to get too excited about all of the options and then find that they won't move the ceremony out of SBL. So I just have to be patient and not think about it too much.

pink_tink8i8
03-27-2009, 03:19 PM
this is from Carrie's (lurkyloo) passporter book:

Magic Kingdom ceremonies take place at the Swan Boat Landing at the foot of Cinderella Castle. The venue is part of a $25,000 ceremony-only package for the couple and up to 50 guests; the standard Wishes Collection per-person food and beverage minimum expenditure and room-night minimums apply in addition to the ceremony package. Transportation to the ceremony and reception for you and your guests is included. Guests ride down Main Street, U.S.A. in motor cars to the ceremony site, while the bride arrives in a horse-drawn landau coach. The package includes a string quartet, a Fanfare Trumpeter and Major Domo to announce the bride, ceremony floral and decor, and a photography and videography package for the ceremony. These elements are available for the reception at an additional charge.

tiggersam00
03-27-2009, 03:31 PM
Ok, as far as grapefruit and champagne I would say no... most people think it is too tart (I loveeee grapefruit but I feel this way too...) if you want pink I know they serve a champagne punch that is pink though! It looks very pretty and yummy! The other option is a mimosa with a bit of grenidine at the bottom, it adds a sunshin-y effect to the drink and still tastes sweet:goodvibes

Skylarr29
03-27-2009, 03:47 PM
Our consultant just said that "The only weddings we had in the Magic Kingdom was the early morning wedding with the reception at one of our Convention Centers."

So I don't know. Maybe that is the case - if it is I guess we would end up staying at the GF and maybe they would let us use the whitehall room or something. I really don't know much about the reception options.

We will just have to wait and see what happens with the ceremony. I don't want to get too excited about all of the options and then find that they won't move the ceremony out of SBL. So I just have to be patient and not think about it too much.


Will you fit in the Whitehall room with 60-70? I don't think you will. We used the Whitehall and we had about 30ish. It is a beautiful room though.

Contemporary has convention center rooms all though that would need more decor.

Bride-to-be
03-28-2009, 10:20 AM
AHHH now you having me fixated on reception spaces - and we don't even know if we are doing the castle! ahhhh.

So I went back to the DFTW website and couldn't find anything about the whitehall room so I googled it and found it under disney meetings. With banquet rounds it has a max of 70. Max I think we would be 64. Anyhoo I looked at some pictures - I think its too formal. I feel like we would need something much more casual. I really want to stay away from the ballroom look - especially since its just breakfast.

Sigh. I am going to do my best to be patient.

Bride-to-be
03-28-2009, 10:27 AM
this is from Carrie's (lurkyloo) passporter book:

Magic Kingdom ceremonies take place at the Swan Boat Landing at the foot of Cinderella Castle. The venue is part of a $25,000 ceremony-only package for the couple and up to 50 guests; the standard Wishes Collection per-person food and beverage minimum expenditure and room-night minimums apply in addition to the ceremony package. Transportation to the ceremony and reception for you and your guests is included. Guests ride down Main Street, U.S.A. in motor cars to the ceremony site, while the bride arrives in a horse-drawn landau coach. The package includes a string quartet, a Fanfare Trumpeter and Major Domo to announce the bride, ceremony floral and decor, and a photography and videography package for the ceremony. These elements are available for the reception at an additional charge.

Thanks Sabrina! Does anyone know if Carrie's book is available in hard copy? I really want to read it but I am so bad with online stuff. I did a borders and amazon search and couldn't find anything :sad2: I could totally misunderstand - but I figured that the ceremony cost fufilled the required mins and that we were just required to spend the additional food and beverage - so I figured we could do a low-key breakfast with not a whole lot of decor. And the hotel mins of course too.

One problem with doing the California Grill is that we have to stick to their menus and the most expensive breakfast they offer is $35. If they won't let us change anything I don't think it would work. Even if we added an open bar (I don't think it would be that popular at breakfast) we still wouldn't reach the food & bev min.

Ok so maybe grapefruit and champage is a bad idea. I will have to ask about the punch!

Skylarr29
03-28-2009, 10:48 AM
How about just using the Whitehall Patio? I don't know if you want a buffet or not but they could set the buffet up in the whitehall room and you can have the reception on the patio, there is a lot more space out there for tables etc. We had 4 tables and a head table, personally I don't see how we could have gotten 3 more rounds in there. 7 tables would easily fit on the patio and then it would be more casual. Also, if it happened to be freezing you could just move inside and at least you would know you have a decent back up location. January weather is so iffy. You can look at some pics in my trip report if you want, link is in my signature.

You could add a Cinderella slipper dessert to the menu at the California grill and by adding some punches/bar you would probably be fine with your minimum if the California Grill is what you really like. Also, cake is not included in the food and bev minimum at CG just so you know, because the cake would be made at the GF.

Bride-to-be
03-28-2009, 11:05 AM
Thanks Melissa - I would have never ever guessed that about the cake. Good to know. I have to read through your trip report again. Its been a little while.

So I just read Heidi's trip report and now I am wondering. All of this mess of venues is all about the dress.
http://www.disneybridal.com/collection/bridal/belle/b2716/b2716_images/b2716.jpg

If I just forgot about the dress and left it to slowly die in my closet then I wouldn't have the need for a formal reception. We could just stick with the cruise maybe talk them into a lunch on the beach and I could just make it super casual like heidi's escape.

Is all of this stress worth it just to wear the dress of my dreams?

pigget74
03-28-2009, 11:20 AM
Thanks Melissa - I would have never ever guessed that about the cake. Good to know. I have to read through your trip report again. Its been a little while.

So I just read Heidi's trip report and now I am wondering. All of this mess of venues is all about the dress.
http://www.disneybridal.com/collection/bridal/belle/b2716/b2716_images/b2716.jpg

If I just forgot about the dress and left it to slowly die in my closet then I wouldn't have the need for a formal reception. We could just stick with the cruise maybe talk them into a lunch on the beach and I could just make it super casual like heidi's escape.

Is all of this stress worth it just to wear the dress of my dreams?

This would be my vote----what about a reception in your hometown after the cruise and you could wear the dress then. I had friends who went away to get married and then did a big reception/party after they got back. It was a huge hit. It could be a Disney Celebration theme and you would look great!

Good luck.

irisbud
03-28-2009, 11:28 AM
I guess I don't understand why you can't wear the dress you want on the beach :confused:

I think that that dress would look gorgeous on Castaway as well, not out of place at all! :cloud9: It is a wedding for goodness sake! It's not like there's a rule that just because you are having a cruise wedding it has to be casual. :goodvibes As with ANY venue you choose, you should wear what YOU feel comfortable in. :thumbsup2 Betsy had a beautiful dress for her onboard wedding and Lisa also wore a traditional wedding gown. :bride:

Just genuinely curious, why do you think you shouldn't wear that dress on Castaway :confused3

Starr W.
03-28-2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks Sabrina! Does anyone know if Carrie's book is available in hard copy? I really want to read it but I am so bad with online stuff. I did a borders and amazon search and couldn't find anything :sad2: I could totally misunderstand - but I figured that the ceremony cost fufilled the required mins and that we were just required to spend the additional food and beverage - so I figured we could do a low-key breakfast with not a whole lot of decor. And the hotel mins of course too.

One problem with doing the California Grill is that we have to stick to their menus and the most expensive breakfast they offer is $35. If they won't let us change anything I don't think it would work. Even if we added an open bar (I don't think it would be that popular at breakfast) we still wouldn't reach the food & bev min.

Ok so maybe grapefruit and champage is a bad idea. I will have to ask about the punch!

Is that $35 one their brunch/breakfast buffet? I was at WDW for a industry conference we had that the one morning at CG. Wow, it was really good!
Mouseweddings shows a menu for a brunch close to what we had, but she's showing a price in the $40-50 range.

tiggerrifficheidi
03-28-2009, 12:20 PM
Aw, sweetie, I just caught up on your dilemma after you posted on my TR. I have to tell you I'm a bad person to make a judgment call about casual vs. princessy, because I was blessed enough to have both. I LOVED my casual wedding and I LOVED the more extravagant one.

I think some of the other girls are hitting on something here:

1. Unless you just really hate it, I don't see any problem with wearing that dress on the beach. It's not over-the-top at all. It's classic and elegant...and that goes anywhere. I can see it looking GORGEOUS with some tropical orchid and calla lillies!

2. Typical "norms" for dress styles have flown out the window in recent years. If you want to wear sleeveless in the winter...go ahead. If you want to wear casual in a cathedral...go ahead. If you want to be Belle on the beach...go ahead!

3. As far as the reception, I worried about our reception at Narcoossee's not being classy enough, but I think we tend to obsess about details during the planning and it will be beautiful however it turns out. You're the bride, so everyone expects you to be fancy no matter where you are. Think of all the people who have receptions in barns nowadays! They still dress it up quite a bit.

4. Do consider having a reception where you can wear the fancy dress later! That's a great idea if you don't want to wear it on the cruise. I think we should start a social revolution and start wearing fancy dresses more often anyway!

5. Another option-there is a bride who is on here some of the time who changed her ceremony location and didn't think the dress she had went very well with the new location. So, she had one dress for the ceremony and reception and another (the more princessy one) for the DP and the MK Photo shoot. Her pics look great! Think about wearing the Belle dress for a MK shoot and maybe have a farewell breakfast for your guests afterward where you still wear it! You'll have the pictures forever and you will LOVE that.

Please let me know if I can help you in any way.

Bride-to-be
03-28-2009, 01:29 PM
Thanks everyone!!!!

I can't wear the dress on the beach. If we do the beach ceremony I want to make it super informal. DF wants to wear board shorts which I think is great and I am totally down for wearing a bathing suit and cover up - I just want to be able to wear the dress at some point. sniff sniff. We went to a more traditional wedding last fall and we were told to wear flip flops and that it was super casual. We didn't wear jeans - but most people did. The bride and groom wore really formal stuff and it just seemed weird. It really didn't feel right.

So then I thought about the MK photoshoot and thought was a great compromise. But then when I weighed out the costs of bring the photographer on the cruise and everything else its only like a few K more to just have a castle ceremony. Then part of me thinks a few K is a ton of money. Then another part of me says - its our wedding we only get to do it once (unlike Heidi).

So that gets me back to thinking about just forgetting about the dress anyway. We had never planned to do a MK photoshoot and so I don't really care either way about that. If we did do the castle ceremony I think I would try to skip the MK photoshoot and see if they will substitue something else into the package.

OK so DF and I just had a long talk. He wants to put everyone in hotels for another night after we get back and rent out victoria and alberts for dinner - assuming we did the cruise beach wedding. He thinks its a better value than the castle for the same price. Ok gotta run to lunch. More later.

29apr00
03-29-2009, 09:17 PM
Victoria and Alberts is for guests ages 10 and up. Don't you have a lot of younger children? You're stuck with the same problem you have with Palo, children are not allowed.

Starr W.
03-30-2009, 07:29 AM
Victoria and Alberts is for guests ages 10 and up. Don't you have a lot of younger children? You're stuck with the same problem you have with Palo, children are not allowed.

:thumbsup2
The OP is back to square one, even though rules may be slightly different for the private room at V&A, I don't think they have a supply of chicken nuggests for kids in the kitchen.

So the option is to drop the kiddies off at the GF's Kids Club(which we know isn't an option for some of the parents) or find another place.

Napa room at CG?

Bride-to-be
03-30-2009, 09:23 AM
Victoria and Alberts is for guests ages 10 and up. Don't you have a lot of younger children? You're stuck with the same problem you have with Palo, children are not allowed.


NO NO NO NO NO. This goes back to my main point again. If you rent the place out they DO allow children - they also do a special kids menu for them. They are sooooo nice about it too. (Thats why Palo is making me so angry)!

The only negative side is this - I was planing to rent it for only half the night. and apparently come september the rules change and if you are renting for half hte night you have to be there at 9!!! It used to be 5 something and 8:30. 8:30 would have been fine but 9 is too late I fear. So we would be stuck renting for the whole evening so we could start whenever and by the time you include alcohol (no open bar packages) we would be at the same price as a castle wedding. So I think I would rather have the castle even if it is slightly under construction. But sigh well see.

Another option is to stick with the Napa room for a standing reception (max is 70 for that instead of 50 for seated) the first night. Cruise wedding. Then get a hotel for everyone for the last night and do a LSS reception. DF is scared to ask about it because he thinks with our luck it will be taken or under construction or closed on Thursdays.. haha.

I am trying to not think to hard about all of this (its all I can think about!!!) and just wait to hear about the castle ceremony options - if there are any this week.

TTFN

ariel2007
03-30-2009, 11:56 AM
You must be getting so confused with all the options, they seem to be infinite :confused:. Anyhoo, I think you should try and sit down with your DF and try and work out what you both really really want to do, and then look at the options you have around that, else you may just keep going in circles. It seemed like you initially loved the idea of the more casual beach ceremony at CC with a more formal reception. How about sticking with the beach ceremony, then having a reception in one of the places they offered like Beach Blanket and keeping it informal. Then when you get back from the cruise, do an extra night at Disney like your DF suggested and do a more formal reception then. If your not contracted in to room minimums etc with Disney you could always stay somewhere off site for the first night to save a bit of money. Just a thought :hug:

29apr00
04-01-2009, 09:18 AM
So what's the lastest, did you hear about having the ceremony on the front castle steps? What about renting out all of V&A??

irisbud
04-01-2009, 09:47 AM
...I think you should try and sit down with your DF and try and work out what you both really really want to do, and then look at the options you have around that, else you may just keep going in circles...

Agreed. :thumbsup2

I think it is next to impossible to plan a wedding when you have no idea what it is that you really want. It's time to do as the PP said and sit down with your DF and figure out what you and DF want. It is YOUR special day. :bride:

Once you know what you really want you can work on getting it. You may have to make comprimises or be flexible on some of it, but I am sure you can come up with something that will work for you. :cloud9:

I hope you can find a solution that makes you happy :goodvibes

:wizard:

padisneyfour
04-01-2009, 12:05 PM
I agree with pp , you and DF need to decide what you both want and start from there....

dizneyfreak
04-01-2009, 11:40 PM
WOW...I just caught up. What a debate we have going on here. I for one think that all of your choices are lovely and no matter what you decide to do it will be beautiful and memorable. I'm with everyone else though...slow down a bit and take a step back. Talk it out with DF and you will come to a solution. One step at a time hon....you are stressing yourself to the max! I can't wait to hear what you decide. Good luck!

Anna Marie

Bride-to-be
04-02-2009, 09:53 AM
So what's the lastest, did you hear about having the ceremony on the front castle steps? What about renting out all of V&A??

If we rent out all of V&A it's the same price as a castle ceremony. We are running down in a few weeks for site visits. I think we are going to have dinner there again and see how we feel. I honestly think its kind of expensive for one meal and I think I would rather have the castle ceremony. I have decided that I really really want to have a reception on the same day as the ceremony.

We are going down to meet with the MK people about the castle ceremony. So I won't know much until we get back.

Bride-to-be
04-02-2009, 09:58 AM
WOW...I just caught up. What a debate we have going on here. I for one think that all of your choices are lovely and no matter what you decide to do it will be beautiful and memorable. I'm with everyone else though...slow down a bit and take a step back. Talk it out with DF and you will come to a solution. One step at a time hon....you are stressing yourself to the max! I can't wait to hear what you decide. Good luck!

Anna Marie

Thanks Anna Marie! Now that we are def going down soon for site visits I feel so much better - its almost as if there is a light at the end of the tunnel. We have decided that we both like the beach wedding and the castle wedding. We also like the living seas salon - so that could be something. We are def sticking with the napa room for the first night - so atleast that is settled. I really want to have a reception on the same day as the ceremony. The castle is sooo easy b/c we could just have breakfast somewhere after. I have someone else working on the cruise reception for me - so I am just waiting to see what comes of it. I really really dislike the beach blanket and studio sea ideas.

29apr00
04-02-2009, 10:00 AM
If we rent out all of V&A it's the same price as a castle ceremony. We are running down in a few weeks for site visits. I think we are going to have dinner there again and see how we feel. I honestly think its kind of expensive for one meal and I think I would rather have the castle ceremony. I have decided that I really really want to have a reception on the same day as the ceremony.

We are going down to meet with the MK people about the castle ceremony. So I won't know much until we get back.


So how long until you go down for the site visit?

Bride-to-be
04-02-2009, 10:12 AM
I think we are going down on May 6 so like 4 weeks. The four weeks are going to feel like forever!! We just wanted to be there over a weekend so we could stay longer and thats the first free one :sad2:

I just sent an email to try to get all of our site visits scheduled.

pjstevens
04-02-2009, 11:45 AM
I think we are going down on May 6 so like 4 weeks. The four weeks are going to feel like forever!! We just wanted to be there over a weekend so we could stay longer and thats the first free one :sad2:

I just sent an email to try to get all of our site visits scheduled.

We'll be down there May 7-10th!!! I really can't wait to hear what you decide. And I agree, the next four+ weeks are going to DRAG on and on!!!

Bride-to-be
04-02-2009, 11:51 AM
YAY!!! I just booked the air and decided to come back super late on Mon night so we get to stay through the 11th. I am sooo excited! I feel like I have been going through disney withdrawl.

29apr00
04-03-2009, 06:46 AM
UGH! 4 weeks is going to go by so slowly! :rotfl: Good luck narrowing down choices of what you want to look at until then!

Bride-to-be
04-04-2009, 10:14 AM
Ok so we have an appt on Friday May 8 at 10am!!! We are going to look at the castle, the napa room (just because we have to put the deposit down - so why not) and the living seas salon. I feel like we should be looking at more places but I can't really think of what else we should see. Any ideas?

I sort of feel like I don't want to waste our consultants time looking at tons and tons of venues - but at the same time - what if we really don't like swan boat landing and what if we decide not to go with the cruise beach ceremony. We need a ceremony site. I really don't want to have to do another trip of just site visits.

If we are already at epcot looking at the living seas - how hard is it to look at some of the countries in world show case? Do they tell you anything specifically about them? I mean is it any different than DF and I just taking a walk around the lake when we are in the parks anyway?

Also our consultant said he wasn't sure what time we would see the castle because he didn't know what time they would be able to set everything up for us. Does anyone know what that means? They don't actually set up all of the chairs and stuff for a mock ceremony do they? I am kind of excited because I am hoping we get to look at lots of pictures. I just didn't know if anyone knew what that meant?

pjstevens
04-04-2009, 10:24 AM
How exciting. Can't wait to hear all about it and we will want pictures!!! LOTS and LOTS of pics.

irisbud
04-04-2009, 11:13 AM
That will be fun! Hopefully taking a look around and meeting with a consultant will help you narrow your options down!

tiggersam00
04-06-2009, 01:35 PM
Ohhh take lots of pics!!!

dizneyfreak
04-16-2009, 10:06 PM
I would ask to see the Wedding Pavillion as well. I think that it is the backup for the castle if it is raining? Did you ever find that out? Also, I would go online to Disney Weddings and look at the sights online to see if any of them peak your interest or DF's interest. I know that Sea Breeze Point is beautiful as is the Italy area they let you use. You may also want to view some of the Epcot sites in case you decide to rent one out for your guests to watch the fireworks or for a desert party at some point as well. As long as you are already going to be there I would look at all you can...take lots of pics and they will help you decide after you get home. Good luck! By the way, I arrive at the world one day after you depart!

Anna Marie

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 10:11 AM
Thanks Anna Marie!

You must be super excited about your trip - not long now!

I love the wedding pavillion! We are def going to try to stick our heads in the door on our way to Francks. If we were having a 100 or 200 people that would be my first choice. However since we only are having 50-60 I feel like its too few. It always makes me sad to walk into churches for weddings and funerals and see lots of empty seats. If we go with the castle ceremony I am hoping to get a different rainbackup like inside the castle where the restaurant waiting room is or something.

We have a bunch of things on hold. I asked for either Morocco or Italy for a DP and they held France (upper?) I think - not sure why but good enough (except that DF has a thing against france - oh well). We have LSS on hold too. The hard part is that we know the parks inside and out. I have been over the DFTW site a million times and can't seem to see the vision of it all. I feel like if we were doing one of the other disney parks like paris or tokyo or even disneyland it would be totally different because nothing would be as familiar and therefore it might feel a little bit more special/exciting. So anyhoo we are just going to wander and wander and keep looking. I am refusing to leave the "world" until we have everything figured out. We have a planning session for invites and stuff on Monday the 11th - so we had better have it all figured out.

Oh and just as an update for anyone who might be curious. Even though TTwC is interactive - when you rent it out - you can't customize the show in any way. I was very disappointed to hear that.

Skylarr29
04-21-2009, 10:19 AM
Thanks Anna Marie!

You must be super excited about your trip - not long now!

I love the wedding pavillion! We are def going to try to stick our heads in the door on our way to Francks. If we were having a 100 or 200 people that would be my first choice. However since we only are having 50-60 I feel like its too few. It always makes me sad to walk into churches for weddings and funerals and see lots of empty seats. If we go with the castle ceremony I am hoping to get a different rainbackup like inside the castle where the restaurant waiting room is or something.

We have a bunch of things on hold. I asked for either Morocco or Italy for a DP and they held France (upper?) I think - not sure why but good enough (except that DF has a thing against france - oh well). We have LSS on hold too. The hard part is that we know the parks inside and out. I have been over the DFTW site a million times and can't seem to see the vision of it all. I feel like if we were doing one of the other disney parks like paris or tokyo or even disneyland it would be totally different because nothing would be as familiar and therefore it might feel a little bit more special/exciting. So anyhoo we are just going to wander and wander and keep looking. I am refusing to leave the "world" until we have everything figured out. We have a planning session for invites and stuff on Monday the 11th - so we had better have it all figured out.

Oh and just as an update for anyone who might be curious. Even though TTwC is interactive - when you rent it out - you can't customize the show in any way. I was very disappointed to hear that.


Sounds like you are making progress.

We only had 30 at the Wedding Pavilion and it was spectacular so to each their own.

For the dessert party, Morocco is too small and is the location for Intimate wedding dessert parties and Italy has a 100 person minimum which you aren't at. You got placed at the French Upper because that is the site that accommodates your party size.

DisneyDmbNut
04-21-2009, 10:45 AM
What is TTwC?

ETA - nevermind..I got it

I wouldn't think that it could change..I am sure it takes several hundred hours to get it set up and they can't change the script much without changing the entire clip

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Melissa you only had 30? I thought you had many more. Anyhoo, I keep hearing stories of people who walk into the WP and just fall in love. Who knows - maybe it will turn into a first choice after we see it.

I guess thats why they held France Upper for us. I am kind of confused though because I read something that was totally different. I read that italy has a max of 100 not a min....

What I found online says -
French Upper 50 min 150max
French Lower 20 min 50 max
French Arm 350max
Italy Isola 100max
Morocco Terrace 60max

Maybe French Upper was the only place still available? I just feel like some place that can hold 150 is going to be too big and some place like morocco that holds 60 would be perfect or italy would be better than france with a max of 100.

Who knows - I am sure we will know more when we get back.

LittleStinkerbelle
04-21-2009, 11:00 AM
Good luck with your site visits:goodvibes. Looking forward to hearing about it (and seeing pictures!) when you get back.

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 11:00 AM
Oh no Melissa you might be right. The above figures are from mouseweddings.com. I just did another google search and found this on the financing section of DFTW.

Lower United Kingdom Terrace
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 20 guests; Maximum - 100 guests

Upper United Kingdom Terrace
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 20 guests; Maximum - 50 guests

Upper French Island
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 50 guests; Maximum - 350 guests

Lower French Island
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 50 guests; Maximum - 300 guests

French Island Arm
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 20 guests; Maximum - 100 guests

Italy Isola
Dessert Party/Reception Minimum - 100 guests; Maximum - 300 guests


But they don't even list Morocco and the numbers are totally different from what mousewedding.com has. HMMMMMMM. Grrrrr.

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 11:05 AM
What is TTwC?

ETA - nevermind..I got it

I wouldn't think that it could change..I am sure it takes several hundred hours to get it set up and they can't change the script much without changing the entire clip

The whole thing is that its totally interactive so there really isn't a script. It would be intersting to see how it all works. But I am pretty sure its a guy standing in a room somewhere who talks and controls everything. They said the only problem would be that Crush doesn't understand anything that happens on land and even if we were on the cruise at sea he wouldn't understand anything about it to be able to comment in any way.

They said in the past they have had parents who have wanted to rent it out and just have Crush say happy birthday at the end of the show to a young kid - but Crush doesn't know anything about birthdays since its a human thing so they have never let it happen.

irisbud
04-21-2009, 11:17 AM
Hopefully you will get things better sorted out when you are actually able to get there and take a look.

If I remember correctly, you have about 60 people total? Trust me, you do NOT want Morocco at that point, unless they would open up the space somehow (I don't see how they could do this). I don't think there would be room for tables at that point. We had 2 tables with 5 chairs each (9 of us total). It felt comfortable. Another 2 tables would have been as much as the space could take without starting to feel crowded.

We loved the space for us, but we also had no children in the group and everyone was able bodied, so standing and leaning on the wall during Illuminations was no problem. The wall IS a little high if you had little ones or people who need to remain seated.

JMO, obviously, but I don't think you should be too dissappointed about Morocco. I honestly think it would not be a good space at all for a group your size, especially with little ones!

Oh, and too bad about TTwC but I guess I can see where they are coming from! If they make an exception for one person... And they are awfully good about protecting the integrity of their "show" on stage!

Have fun at your PS and take loads of pictures!

29apr00
04-21-2009, 11:17 AM
So with all these venue's held and site visits planned for the Castle wedding, are you still holding space for the DCL wedding to?

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 12:05 PM
So with all these venue's held and site visits planned for the Castle wedding, are you still holding space for the DCL wedding to?

Yup. If we decide that we wish to go the castle route then we will prolly cancel the DCL ceremony at some point -but not until the construction plans are def.

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 12:07 PM
Irisbud thanks for the advice about Morocco. The country itself has sort of an ironic meaning to us -which is why I thought it could be an interesting spot. Truthfully I have never seen the fireworks from there - so its great to know about the wall. That def wouldn't work for the kiddies.

ghoulish delight
04-21-2009, 03:46 PM
So, of course, I had to come check out your PJ! Sounds like you've got some amazing ideas so far! And, I just LOVE your e-story and the save-the-dates (even if you decide against going with DCL, it was a cute cute idea!). I'm definitely going to be following your planning, and hope your appointment coming up shows you guys exactly what you're looking for! :goodvibes

Bride-to-be
04-21-2009, 05:23 PM
Thanks Anjanette! Its certainly been a bit of a roller coaster. Some people have described my PJ as "making their head spin". Sorry its so confusing. Hopefully in a few weeks it will all be cleaned up and will be much easier to follow. At this point I don't think there is anyway that we could skip the cruise - everyone is looking forward to it! The question is just about the ceremony and reception locations.

We are really looking forward to all of our "wedding appointments" in may.

I can't wait to hear more about your wedding at disneyland!!!!

dizneyfreak
04-21-2009, 10:31 PM
I am in agreement with the other girls...Morocco is so small and I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it as much. The spot at the United Kingdom is very private and intimate. No one can really see your party without straining to do so. The French areas have an awesome view too, but you are extremely visable from the guests walking along the path and if you rent one half and someone rents the other that would suck to have to parties so close together. Take time to look at all the areas closely on your visit and you will see what I mean.
Also, we were married in the wedding pavillion and only had 30 guests total as well. It was beautiful and our pictures with the castle in the background through the stained glass were amazing! Make sure to check it out. Have fun! It's getting close! I can't wait to hear what you decide.

Anna Marie

rumrunnergirl
04-22-2009, 02:43 PM
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CinderelliT
04-22-2009, 03:34 PM
I can't wait for your site visit and to see what you decide. I hope you get married at the castle, b/c very few people can say that they have done that! Plus I will be totally green with envy!

Don't worry about your PJ! Mine is a jumbled mess at the beginning. And then I can't make up my mind about anything. I originally wanted a beach vr, but my family just wasn't supportive of it. Plus it would have cost about the same as a disney wedding. Then we changed to the swan and dolphin, but I had nothing but problems with the wedding planner from JustMarry not responding to me. (I think it is the same with your problems w/ Cathy. I have heard a lot of people say that she took a long time to answer e-mails and such. For some reason though, she would always just answer me like the same day! I don't know what I did to get such good treatment.) But anyway, I also really wanted a MK photo shoot. Disney used to allow it as long as you were getting married on property, but they changed their rules. So with all of that combined, we decided on a DCL VR. It was like a perfect combination of all options - except that my family cannot afford to travel with us, and we can't afford to pay for all of them.

So now we are trying to pick a venue for an at home reception/anniversary party. But I can't make up my mind about that either! LOL!!! :rotfl:

Sorry to hijack your PJ! I hope that you have fun on your site visit.

Bride-to-be
04-22-2009, 05:11 PM
I can't wait to look at all of the DP sites at epcot. We have seen the fireworks a million times but we are always either walking or we are in italy or in the front of everything across the lake from the american pavillion. I never realized there was so much to consider.

We can't skip DCL :o( I love the cruise too much! and all of our family is really looking forward to it.

That and there is no way that we could afford hotels and park tickets + dining for all of our guests for a week :o(

So hopefully we can do LSS just as an added event/reception after the cruise ends.

Tanya I hope we can do the castle too! I love the fact that its a more unusual venue. Negatives are that we can't have outside photographers and I am worried about the construction and the location of the ceremony. But we will know more soon!

You will have such a great time on the cruise - don't worry if a ton of people aren't there - it just means that you get to have a second huge party!!!! I know how difficult it is to pick places - believe me I know. I would just think about your favorite restaurant or favorite place in the area that means the most to you and do it there.

If it were me I would set everything up in a field in the middle of no where... Assuming you had great weather it would be perfect!!!!

ghoulish delight
04-22-2009, 06:03 PM
So so exciting Cassie! You're going to have to fill me in on your appointment and decisions the two of you make, especially since you and I are having them on the same day! :woohoo: Can't wait 'til you get your plans completely solidified!! I just know you'll decide on the most perfect/beautiful venue! It will all work out for the very best. I'll be anxiously awaiting to read more!

Bride-to-be
04-24-2009, 02:06 PM
Our consultant just emailed with a construction update. He really really advised us to stay away from the castle due to the amount of construction that will be happening. I am not sure if we are going to do the site visit or not. I told him I still wanted to to do it but didn't want to waste his time if he really thought it was a bad idea.

He emailed the studios and animal kingdom to see if they could come up with a creative unusual event that would suit us. He said that we could easily do breakfast at Beauty and the Beast with all of the characters. So maybe that is a thought...

So I guess unless we change the date the castle is out :confused3 :sad2:

DisneyDmbNut
04-24-2009, 03:50 PM
I thought the castle was going to be finished by Jan 10th?

The crane should be gone by then

tiggerrifficheidi
04-24-2009, 04:19 PM
Our wedding was Jan 19th, and the crane was up that day.

Bride-to-be
04-24-2009, 05:03 PM
I thought the castle was going to be finished by Jan 10th?

The crane should be gone by then

I posted a copy of the email I got on the main thread page. That would be awesome if it was done by the middle of Jan. But the email said it wouldn't be finished until March =o(


Where did you get the Jan 10 date from?

jdybnsn
04-28-2009, 05:21 PM
Hi

Just read through your entire thread and can really sympathise with your agony of trying to get exactly want you wanted for your wedding through DCL !:headache:

...not least because that was me 2 years ago !!!

I came up with entirely different solution ...it may well be of no interest ....but I am going to just run it past you because you never know...it just might be worth a bit of investigation on your part ?:idea:

The main problem I was getting with DCL was firstly that you actually have to "officially" get married in port before you leave Port Canaveral - and that was making me personally feel that my "wedding day" was in actual fact more of a blessing ceremony (and an expensive one at that !)....don't get me wrong...that was just my personal feeling ....its not necessarily something that bothers, or is interpreted like that by, everyone. It just bugged me alot.

Second, like you I was fast finding that the cruise ship wedding is best suited to the bride who wants things made easy, and planned for her...and not to someone who wants something detailed, highly personal and tailor made to suit.

And third, I really wanted a full wedding "day" and not a "wedding couple of hours" !

We were going to get married through DCL on a 7 day western cruise ...however, thanks to someone on the Disboard, by chance I was alerted to this place on Grand Cayman :

http://www.grandoldhouse.com/

They have their own wedding planner, Desiree, who deals mainly with cruise ship weddings.

Well, I was just completely WOWED !!:yay:...especially when I saw the prices, compared to DCL !! ...and what I particularly liked, was the fact that your package could be completely tailored to exactly what you wanted.
I was able to get my hair, nails & make up done on the island before the wedding too.

In the end we were able to have the full works; horse & carriage, stretch limos, a live harpist (you could also have a pianist or steel band), fantastic sandcastle cake, plenty of our own Disney theming, a wonderful charming pastor, a great setting for the wedding on the pavillion/decking, a great local photographer, spent the afternoon getting fantastic shots on a very quiet local beach 5 minutes away, whilst the kids played in the water ...oh, and did I mention the FABULOUS food ?!! for a fraction of what it cost through Disney ...I could go on .....and only 10 minutes from the ship.
Here are some pics of our day...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008050.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008076.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008097.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008099.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008197.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008237.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008413.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/jdybnsn/OurWedding12022008374.jpg

OK - so you can see we didn't have a big wedding LOL ! ...our witness was the person (and her family) from the Dis board, who recommended the place ! - but you CAN have alot of guests accommodated there !

We were back onboard the ship at 4pm and celebrated some more at our evening meal with more cake & champage - I continued to wear my wedding dress and it was lovely to get so many "congratulations" & "good wishes" from the other diners in the room.

It ws a perfect day and a perfect way to combine Disney ...and cruising.....and a wedding - perfect for us anyway !

So my idea for consideration would be could you change to cruise to a 7 day Western .......the cost of which could be met by the savings you'd be making by not booking through DCL / WDW weddings or doing the WDW bit ???

However, fair to point out that there is one big downside to the plan.......Grand Cayman is a tender port and therefore there is a chance it can be missed (though I am informed the chances of this are much less in Jan, Feb, & March.).
You would have to be entirely comfortable to work with a plan B should this occur....ours was to fly out at a later date, as most aspects of the wedding were postponable/refundable.........but it could be to re-arrange it quickly when you returned to port at an alternative venue .....or some other plan ????

Well, this is just an idea I wanted to share:idea:..and I sincerely hope you have a fantastic wedding , what ever your plans turn out to be ! :flower3:

DisneyDmbNut
04-28-2009, 05:45 PM
That water looks amazing!

Bride-to-be
04-28-2009, 06:45 PM
jdybnsn, is your name Judy?

Anyhoo I just wanted to say thank you - your pictures are amazing and I can't believe you read through my whole trip report - your head must be spinning!

I wish we could afford to do a 7 day, I looked at it originally but it would have doubled our entire budget. Plus our save the dates have already been sent and I dont' think most of our guests couldn't get away long enough for the seven day.

My whole family is already booked on the Baltic in June, if I could have I would have just added DFs family and our friends to that cruise - but again $$$ and too much time off from work for most people.

It looks like your wedding was perfect!! I suggested getting married in Nassau and DF wasn't too kean on the idea. If we were stopping at grand caymen I would totally follow suit and copy you.

Thanks for understanding. Its nice to have some support. Once again congratulations on having such a picturesque wedding.

29apr00
04-28-2009, 06:55 PM
jdybnsn what a beautiful wedding you had!!

jdybnsn
04-29-2009, 01:49 AM
Hi
Yes my name is Judy :goodvibes

Thank you for your kind comments, both of you.

Lets hope your plan comes together...maybe if you are unable to switch cruises , then pehaps I can at least illustrate that sometimes a little thinking "outside of the box" :idea: can really turn up something really special...and something that you can really feel happy with.

To be honest with you, alot of what really made my wedding, was all the my own special touches that I bought to it myself anyway, which could be done where ever the wedding is held :love:......and I can see from your earlier posts that you are already a grand master at that !!

Best of luck for the future :goodvibes.....for the planning,... the wedding .....and beyond.....and just remember that the only really important detail to any wedding, is that you both turn up LOL !!!!

DisneyDmbNut
04-29-2009, 06:06 AM
Judy - did anyone ever tell you your DH looks like Dave Matthews?? I did a double take to make sure you weren't his wife Ashley!!

When we were planning ours, someone told me that you can have a ceremony on the beach in Nassau, but the idea of getting off the ship and getting back on sends me into a panic attack! I didn't even get off in Nassau on both stops.

But that Grand Cayman ceremony looks amazing!! Almost as nice as mine (but I may be a bit bias!!:rotfl2::rotfl:)

jdybnsn
04-29-2009, 06:28 AM
Judy - did anyone ever tell you your DH looks like Dave Matthews?? I did a double take to make sure you weren't his wife Ashley!!



LOL ...no.... but I had to look up who Dave Matthews was as he's not well known here in the UK.

....next time we are over in the US and there's a bunch of photographers snapping in our faces I'll know why :rotfl2:


PS your wedding pictures look fabulous too !!:hug:

Ann117
04-30-2009, 07:23 AM
I have been reading you PJ for a while now. I just wish you all the best planing and I am sorry about all the headaches you have had already. I used to work on a cruise ship and that's just to bad his family does not want to leave the kids with the Kids Club. We had kids who wanted to spend all their time with kids club there parents had to make them leave. But I am sure everything will work out perfectly in the end.

Bride-to-be
04-30-2009, 08:26 AM
Thanks Ann! I am sure the kids would never want to leave the kids clubs! Its just the parents who I think are uneasy about the seperation. I am hoping they all go to the open house the first night and the parents decide its ok to leave the kids for a bit.

We shall know a lot more soon!

LLLBelle
04-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Just caught up on you PJ and you most certainly have a lot going on.

I love all your ideas. I just think you are trying to do a lot. You want to enjoy your ceremony and not have to worry about getting to the boat on time. I say just were your dress, some of the dresses I have seen on disboards have been formal and beautiful and on DCL.

You need to remember that this is about you and your DF. You will never please everyone, I know, I am the same way and I eventually just had to stick to my guns on somethings (like when my FMIL tried to tell me that Las Vegas would be better than PR for our wedding).

You are being nice enough to pay for everyone to go on the cruise, just make sure you are getting what you want as well.

Okay I will get off my soap box.

I hope your trip will give you some answers and that you have fun!

Look forward to hearing more!

Ann117
05-01-2009, 06:45 AM
Thanks for finding the mini cake!! Also just wanted to tell you thanks again for letting me steal your talking Mickey Invites. I found some Mickeys on sale and just got the big box of them in yesterday.

Bride-to-be
05-01-2009, 03:27 PM
YAY for the mickeys! I am glad you liked them so much! The group agc sound (i think was the name) was really really easy to work with and very straight forward. I would highly recommend them for the little recorder gizmos.

I am kind of dissapointed about the little cakes. I remembered they were only 1 tier but thought they were more mad hatterish and less hippyish... Hopefully they can come up with some really cool mini mad hatter cakes! I can try to ask about it at francks if you want.

CinderelliT
05-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Ok! Cassie, I just got caught up on more of your pj. I am going to offer you my opinion on some things. Do what you will with it! :lmao:
I am really hoping that you can do the castle wedding still, and then just relax on the cruise. When I talked to Karen at DPS, she said that they are trying to do portions of the castle at a time, so that they can shoot around it, etc. So maybe, we can find out more if they might be working on the back of the castle, when you are getting married.

Also, as many times as I've been there - where is Swan Landing? Do you have a picture of it?

Is it that spot by the rose garden inbetween the castle and tomorrow land? If so, you might be safe as long as they aren't working on the front of the castle.

Also, GF is gorgeous for a reception - I don't care what time of day it is.

Cake in the morning is the best breakfast. Didn't you ever listen to Bill Cosby? Go for the big cake!

The castle cake topper is gorgeous! I wouldn't put sugar on it to look like a sand castle. Have them do that to the cake instead.

Also, if you do get married at the castle, there are some great photographers at Disney. Take a look at their work and request your favorite. Some are not great, but there are some. Plus we all have our off days! Don't believe everything you read. Judge for yourself.

And last but not least - wear the big dress!!!!!! :rotfl:It's gorgeous!!
I don't care if you are on the beach or in a field or at the castle. You should be a princess on your wedding day. Some of my favorite pictures are when the bride and groom where formal attire on the beach. I'll post some for you for inspiration if you need it! And who cares what the guests wear. I love beach weddings. (I would love a castle wedding more if I could afford it, but I need to win the lottery first! :rotfl:)

Keep us posted on your updates.

Bride-to-be
05-01-2009, 05:24 PM
I am so sad about the castle. Our coordinator said that he strongly recommended that we stay away from the MK. The construction is starting on the back I guess so they will be working on the front I assume in the end of Jan.

I told him that I was really looking forward to the castle site visit, but at the same time I trusted his opinion and didn't want to waste his time. So I am really hoping we can still do it (just so that I can at least see all of the details), but at the same time I feel kind of guilty since his time is so precious. So who knows - I will post next friday and let you guys know if we saw it or not.

And yes its that thing btw the rose garden and tomorrowland. But we were specifically trying to get it moved away from there. So perhaps we could move it to be the opposite side of whatever side they are working on!!

Swan Boat Landing looks like this - and I didn't know what they were referring to either in the beginning and I have been there hundreds of times.

I googled imaged searched and when I went to copy and paste the address - I saw it was from Lurkyloo's photobuck album :lmao:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t63/lurkyloo/Free%20Dining%2008/IMG_7801.jpg

If we did the castle we would probably skip the sandcastle cake or have it on the ship.. not sure.

So in short everything is going to depend on the site visits. Hopefully everything should be settled by the time we get back! I have stated many times I refuse to leave the world until its done - otherwise I will never get sleep again.. :rotfl:

dizneyfreak
05-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Good luck on your planning. Soak up every minute and enjoy! I can't wait to see what you decide! :surfweb:

Anna Marie

Bride-to-be
05-05-2009, 10:20 AM
Ok so a new dilema. I thought we had everything figured out and somewhat settled that we were just going to have the ceremony on the CC beach and save the cake and champagne and everything else and do a big reception at WDW the day the cruise ends.

We had dinner with my mom last night and she is super against the idea. She claims that people are going to want to fly home instantly after the cruise ends and not stay at disney (even if we are providing the hotel). She gave me this whole big speal about how time off from work is precious and how everyone would feel obligated to stay and attend our reception when no one would really want to! :scared1::mad:

The cruise ends on a Thursday - so instead of people flying home midday thursday we would be asking them to stay one extra night so they could leave on Friday am. I sort of figured that most people would take friday off from work anyway and stay through the weekend.

She speciifically pointed out that two of her friends (hers not mine) were taking their only vacations for the year in order to come and that they specifcially wouldn't want to stay the extra day.

My mom is so feed up about the fact that we can't do a dinner reception on the boat. She keeps trying to talk us into moving the whole thing away from disney and doing a different destination.

So what do we do? Do you think we could make the reception optional on the invite? What do you guys think?

jdybnsn
05-05-2009, 10:35 AM
I don't think you should organise this wedding to suit your mother (or her friends for that matter) - organise it to suit yourself - it is YOUR wedding and you don't have to compromise with anyone but your DH2B !!

good luck :goodvibes

pigget74
05-05-2009, 11:01 AM
WOW! Well to me it seems that you have catered your entire wedding to fit everyone else---it may be time to put your foot down. If I were invited--from what I have read you are paying for their room and cruise--I would stay. Yes, they have taken vacation time--no one forced them to. I am afraid if you make it optionial--people might decide not stay on that day and just head home---maybe not since flights are invloved. I like the way you have it set-----the only other optioin would to have a reception back home at a place there----and from what I have read that is not what you want. These are your memories, not theirs. They will forget, you will not. Time for you to decide who to make happy and I feel that you owe it to yourself and your DF.

LLLBelle
05-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I agree, if that's what you want to do. . .DO IT! I mean how much can they really complain when you are being kind enough to pay for the cruise and an extra night at a hotel, they can wait one day to go home.

From someone who had to compromise a lot (and forego Disney all together) , do what YOU want and have no regrets.

DisneyDmbNut
05-05-2009, 11:11 AM
Are still planning on doing the Studio Sea reception? I know the tables are small, but that would give you the reception.

How are they setting you up for dinner? I am sure your reservations are linked but does your mother know you will not all be at the same table? We had a group of over 30 with both Cat 1's and they put us all in the same area, but we had 4 or 5 tables. They could not push the tables together.

irisbud
05-05-2009, 11:32 AM
Cassie,

Please decide what you and your DH want to do and then do it. You will regret it if you do not. :goodvibes It is not your mother's wedding, it is your wedding. Sorry to sound crass, but she already had her wedding. Also, do you really care if two of your mother's friends can't come to the reception? :confused3 For me, that would not be a deal breaker. When you have done everything to accomodate these people (paying fro cruise hotel etc.) then you can't do anymore and you shouldn't feel bad if they make the choice not to stay for the reception. :thumbsup2
I am not intending to sound harsh with this post. :flower3: It just seems that trying to please everyone is giving you so much unnecessary stress. :hug: The problem is that you will never be able to please everyone and you shouldn't be trying to. Be reasonable in your accomodations (you are being more than reasonable, so no worries there) and do what YOU want. :woohoo: It is your day not your guests' day and if any of them object to you not aquiescing to their every need they are being very selfish. :angel:

Good luck! :wizard:

Ann117
05-05-2009, 11:58 AM
I agree with everyone else its your wedding. Do what you want to do. You are being so nice to everyone already for paying for like everything for them.Not very many people do this for their guest. They are just being selfish in my opinion for everything you are doing for them they should be flexible. You need to think about yourself although it sounds mean you will be happy in the long run. Do not let everyone stress you out this shoudl be a very happy time for u!!;)

Bride-to-be
05-05-2009, 02:14 PM
Thanks everyone! I feel a lot better. I just talked to my uncle - and he said he was planning to take the whole week off from work and that he thought the idea of doing an extra day at disney was fantastic. So phew. At least one family coming will be happy =o). I know the wedding is all about us - but at times I really worry because I think in one sense that I don't want to over schedule people - but then I think its our wedding we can do as we wish. I just want everyone to have a blast and not be disapointed or feel inconvenienced. I am sure this is the kind of thing my mother will get over and have to deal with but in some ways I kind of feel like she raises a good point - which really scares me.

And no I really don't like Studio Sea esp. for dinner at 4pm. I told our coordinator that I thought it could be really cool if we could decorate it and make it look like a real reception and less like studio sea. But she said we could only have floral done from the florist. The tables in there I dont' think are really big enough to hold people eating dinner let alone added flowers. So the only negative about all if it is that I am kind of bummed about not doing anything to celebrate the day of.

Our latest thought is that we could just have cake and champagne in the roy suite before dinner (b.c I don't think disney could have too much control and say no :)) I am just not sure that even if everyone was standing that we would all fit in there. I have looked at lots of pics online but its really hard to get a feel for the size of the space.

Then maybe we could just do mini cakes at the dessert party instead of a big one!! =o)

DisneyDmbNut
05-05-2009, 02:29 PM
I can say with almost 100% certainty that 60 people will NOT fit in the Roy
http://i42.tinypic.com/x4g7e8.jpg

We had 15 or 20 at one point and it was tight. There is the dining room and the parlor, but you are not going to have people in either bedroom hanging out..I would ask if they could set the cake up in one of the lounges or on deck. 60 (even 30) people is a lot to put in a small area.

Goldeelox9
05-05-2009, 02:38 PM
You can still have the cake reception in Palo right after the wedding and still have 5 or 6 hours on the beach. It is your wedding people will not mind going back to the ship for cake. It really was seemless!

Bride-to-be
05-05-2009, 03:19 PM
back to the drawing board. Both of us are in agreement that we don't want to do Palo right after the ceremony. I guess we might be able to just do a cake cutting in studio sea at 4. I really liked the casual feel of doing it out of one of the rooms.

Anyhoo, my sister just called me from France screaming about how selfish I am being asking people to arrive at WDW the day before the cruise and asking them to stay for a night after. She completely agreed with my mom that we can't ask people to take that much time off from work and if we put it on an invite people will feel obligated. :sad1: I sort of agree with everyone that its my wedding and that I should be able to be selfish. I honestly don't see why one night is so bad in the big scheme of things (especially when its free!). It almost makes me feel like my family doesn't care that its my wedding and that they don't really care if I have a chance to wear a wedding dress or not. She said specifically weddings are 1 day of being special, she said that since we are on a 4 day cruise thats already 4 days of being special and that I can't push it.

:sad2:

29apr00
05-05-2009, 03:46 PM
:grouphug: Lots of valid points are being made. Yes it is your wedding and you should be able to have what you want. You are paying for the hotel prior, the cruise, AND now a hotel afterwards so you can have the reception. All your guests have to do is get there. And i do agree that most of them would be taking friday off anyway. I mean really, who takes M-Th off, then returns for friday, only to miss the weekend again. :confused3 So you do have valid points. they are coming to see YOU GET MARRIED, so i would think the reception after teh cruise wouldn't be an inconvience.

Now.....as a guest....i'd have to see it as a bit of an inconvience. Airfare could be more expensive on Friday instead of Thursday. Plus...they'd have an extra day of meals and expenses. You'l only be feeding them 1 time at the reception. Some may want something else to do afterwards, so then it's money for park tickets or DTD or a water park. Plus an extra day of parking at the airport, food on friday too. And i would wonder if this wedding would ever end!! You are having an activity the night before the ship sails, then the 4 night cruise with the ceremony, and now a reception at WDW after the cruise too!?!?? :rolleyes1

I'm sorry! I really feel for you! It seems like you are really trying to please everyone and still get what you want for a wedding.

Is it possible to just have the reception before the ceremony? I mean, you are already planning something the night before, right? I know it's not normal, but you could still have the cake and champage and a nice reception like you want, but then your guests wouldn't have to stay an extra night.

Plus....it may be easier on your budget! :rotfl: It's got to be getting expensive paying for all these extra hotel rooms!

Goldeelox9
05-05-2009, 03:53 PM
I think your family is selfish. IT is your wedding and I would put when it takes place and those who don't want to come...poop on them!

Shoot you could fill the ship with dissers and we would do anything you asked when you asked us to do it with no problem.

I had 30 people who all paid thier way for everything and 90% of them came in the night before and they all went back to palo for the reception and then to the beach and a few stayed over after the cruise....and they all still tell me it was the best wedding ever!

DO WHAT YOU WANT! If you family and friends don't want to come you don't need them there.

LLLBelle
05-05-2009, 04:06 PM
She said specifically weddings are 1 day of being special, she said that since we are on a 4 day cruise thats already 4 days of being special and that I can't push it.

:sad2:

I totally disagree, there may be one "big day" but when you are having a destination wedding you want to make it nice for everyone. I am having 4 days of special-ness at my PR wedding. . .so don't listen to them. I do agree that they seem to be a little ungrateful about the whole thing when you guys are paying the bill.

Everything you are saying brings back the bad memories when I was fighting for my Disney Cruise Wedding, two of my FSIL and my FMIL were horrible about it. Although It will get better, I promise :flower3: you will find something that works and when you do, everything will fall into place and it will be wonderful :woohoo:

I think that if you want to go for the reception after the cruise cut the day before the cruise out, just to ease some pressure.

Just hang in there and have a class of wine. . .or two :cool1:

CharacterFan
05-05-2009, 04:46 PM
It really sounds like you don't want the cruise ship thing. I know you've told people and they're excited, but have you priced and thought about moving it all to WDW. Plans change, people will understand that, and some might enjoy the parks more. Then you don't have to worry about kids being at the reception, you can have the ceremony and reception that you want. If you want a beach wedding you could do the Wedding Pavilion Beach, or I think even Shipweck Beach.

I do think people would stay for a reception on a Friday, because really who only takes off M-Th, but what if some have booked airfare already, and then some might want to stay until Sunday. It is your day, but honestly, I also agree with your sister with that your wedding is 1 day, and while you do have the night before the cruise, the cruise, and then the day after if a bit much. You're steaching your wedding into 6 days. That's just my opinion sorry if you dont' like it.

spacerangerqueen
05-05-2009, 04:54 PM
First I just wanted to say that when we went on the 4 night cruise in March I only took off Mon-Thurs because I didn't want to use the extra vacation day. However I live in Florida and was home by 11am on Thurs, wondering why I didn't just go in late to work lol. The biggest thing is that when I showed up at work on Friday EVERYONE looked at me like I was crazy and asked why I came in for one day. So really it seams most people would expect your guests to take that Friday off.

In all honesty when are your guests planning on arriving? at 10am the day the cruise sails? My mom was complaining about not wanting to show up on Friday when our cruise sails on Saturday, but really I would have a heart attack if everyone was flying in on Saturday and I had to make sure everyone arrived at the Port on time! And if my guests were coming from FRANCE why the heck wouldn't you fly in early, especially since the day before the cruise is a FREAKIN' SATURDAY. I'm sorry but if I am flying across an ocean then I am going to maximize my time and if that means missing one more day of work can give me three more days out of the country (Fri/Sat/Sun) then what is wrong with that?

I'm sorry, I have to repeat what everyone else is saying, stop catering to your guests. A cruise wedding is supposed to be easy. You know what makes it easy? You can't change it. Tell them this is what the cruise offers, this is what you get. Take it or leave it, but we are getting married on whatever date on Castaway Cay. If you commit to it the way it is, then no one, especially the guests can come to you with things to change, because it simply wont be able to be changed. Once you present to them what you have decided on it will be much easier for them to accept it. They see you are so undecided so they think they can pressure you into what they want.

Once you 100% commit to one of your many options your guests will start to be comfortable with it and be able to plan accordingly.

:hug:

padisneyfour
05-05-2009, 05:30 PM
Once you 100% commit to one of your many options your guests will start to be comfortable with it and be able to plan accordingly.

:hug:

I agree! You and DF need to make the decision and that's it, then the guests will know what is going on and be able to make plans accordingly. It is your wedding.....JMO. good luck

pinkcow
05-05-2009, 06:21 PM
Cassie, as everyone is saying, really do what is in your heart and what you and your new husband want to do. In my mind if a guest is uncomfortable with taking the extra time off, let them make their own arrangements home early. Maybe have a "come if you want to" policy. It will be far less stressful. You can't please everyone.

Bottom line, the day (or week!) is about the commitment you are making between you and your fiance. Don't let anyone ruin that, and don't loose sight of it either.

:goodvibes

Bride-to-be
05-06-2009, 09:32 AM
Can someone please tell me how to respond using multiple quotes? If I knew how I would - but since I don't -

Thanks everyone for all of the support. DF and I had the longest talk about it last night. It all boils down to the fact that I want to wear my dress (or A dress as DF thinks ). http://www.disneybridal.com/collection/bridal/belle/b2716/b2716_images/b2716.jpg

We determined that the only way I can where a big fancy dress is if we do something at WDW after the cruise ends. I keep thinking about how pretty everyones informal beach pictures are (esp. Heidis from her first wedding) and thinking I should just forget about the dress and all of the stress will go away. But then that thought always makes me really sad, and sometimes makes me cry. I suggested doing things a little backwards and having the reception first - DF refused. So we are going to go and check out LSS salon and the dessert party options this week and see what we think.

Everyone mostly for the wedding is flying in from up north and in January many flights are heavily delayed and cancelled due to the weather. I think I would have a heart attack if anyone missed the boat. So we are requiring everyone to come the day before. We sort of figure if we have everyone there the day before, why not do a come as you are welcome party in the napa room? I figure its one less meal our guests have to pay for and a chance for everyone to meet eachother before we jump on the bus the next morning for the cruise. That and fireworks are never a negative esp when you don't have to buy park tickets!

So we are off to disney today. I will post a ton when we get back next week. Hopefully by then everything will be settled and I can just worry about all of the fun stuff.

ghoulish delight
05-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Aww, Cassie! I feel so so bad that you're stressed out over all this!! :hug: I agree with many of the other girls... you and your DF just need to decide on what the two of you want, and that's that! Weddings are about the couple! You would think that your family and other guests would be thrilled at this opportunity! Heck, if I was asked to go to such an amazing sounding wedding, I'd be absolutely ecstatic!! Keep in mind, there could be jealousy afoot. :sad2:

But, I digress, don't let them take the wind out of your sails! If you want the chance to wear your beautiful princess gown, then make it happen! You think your family will be disappointed they had to come a day early and leave a day late once they see how gorgeous and happy you are in it? ;) Okay, that's my two cents!

The funny thing is, I stopped by your PJ to wish you a happy planning session since yours is the same day as mine! :goodvibes Soo, I can't wait to hear the details when you get back! And keep your chin up girly. It'll all work out for the best!

29apr00
05-07-2009, 07:31 AM
Good luck at Disney this weekend!!

Kimmers127
05-07-2009, 08:40 AM
Oh wow. I guess I sort of keep coming back to the thought that if I were going on a free wedding cruise, EVEN IF I thought the bride was going a little nuts/overscheduling people.... I would TOTALLY SUCK IT UP because hello, free vacation! I mean seriously, 2 nights in Disney plus a 4 day cruise and all I have to pay is airfare and maybe a handful of meals? That's a drop in the bucket to what I'll be asking my guests to spend to attend my Wishes wedding! I think your family probably knows you well enough to know that you will bend over backwards to accomodate them, and they're taking advantage of that a bit. And with this many guests, you can't possibly please everyone. If you let yourself get into that mentality you will make yourself crazy.

My advice is do what YOU want... but say nothing further to your guests until you are 150% positive of your new game plan. If your guests are aware of all these new options you have been considering, that's probably what is making them think you'll happily change your plans for them, because they think you don't know what you want anyway, so you may as well do what they want. I say, keep your plans between you, DF, and us :lmao: until you know exactly what you want to do, and then TELL them, don't "run it by them".

Good luck!!! Can't wait to hear all about your planning session!

tiggersam00
05-07-2009, 09:40 AM
[QUOTE=Kimmers127;31708688]My advice is do what YOU want... but say nothing further to your guests until you are 150% positive of your new game plan. If your guests are aware of all these new options you have been considering, that's probably what is making them think you'll happily change your plans for them, because they think you don't know what you want anyway, so you may as well do what they want. I say, keep your plans between you, DF, and us :lmao: until you know exactly what you want to do, and then TELL them, don't "run it by them".QUOTE]

Ditto:thumbsup2

CinderelliT
05-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Cassie,
I hope that you have fun in Disney!!! Good luck on your trip.

dizneyfreak
05-10-2009, 10:42 PM
Good luck on your planning trip! I hope that the Disney magic comes into play why you are there and everything falls into place for you and DF. My opinion: do what makes you happy! I spent a year trying to make my DH's family happy before our wedding and it defenitely put a damper on my day. Don't make the same mistake...this is your day....live it up!

Anna Marie

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 09:19 AM
So we're back, and the CASTLE is back in the running!!!!

We didn't do the official site visit (because I was sure it was out of the running) but our coordinator took us over anyway to just look around and we showed him exactly where we wanted the ceremony to be and he said "that shouldn't be a problem"!!!!!!! So he still has to double check and make sure but he thought it would be fine and he didn't seem to think that the construction would affect the location at all. :woohoo:

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/jbpicturesdisneysitevisitsandVT034.jpg?t=124240540 2

So yes we came back still undecided. We still have everything on hold and our coordinator wants us to wait to sign a contract for 4 weeks until all of the final construction plans are out. We also left our coordinator with a few pages worth of questions and so our final decision will have something to do with the answers he comes back with.

We also looked at the napa room. We fell in love instantly it was PERFECT for a rehersal dinner/welcome party. Its very itimate. The views out the window are mostly of the concrete roof of the contemp but if you look way out to the left you can see the castle and space mountain. We still really liked it. For anyone who was as confused about it as I am. On one of the menus they offer chicken beef and fish. What they do is just have platters of all of it and come around to the tables and serve guests as much of anything as they would like. I now know this is called Crown Service. Sounds great! I also asked about centerpieces and was told that they restaurant can do really cool centerpieces with lots of fruits and vegetables. I am kind of curious but I was assured it would be awesome. One less thing to worry about. The only downside is that if we do the castle wedding we will probably have more than 50 people there and so the entire thing would turn into a large cocktail party with lots of apps.

Because we didn't take any pictures here are some from Mouseweddings.com
http://www.mouseweddings.com/Graphics_Files/wedloccgn1.jpg
Behind the bar there is a big window looking into the main restaurant. This is pretty much how it was set up when we were there. I don't really know what hte colored cone things are about. I learned that the tables underneath are not wood and therefore you are required to have a tablecloth - free choices are black or white.

Here is another Mouseweddings.com photo - I was assured that we will not have any ugly chairs and they will all be wood like the first photo.
http://www.mouseweddings.com/Graphics_Files/wedloccgn2.jpg

This is the view from the catwalk just off the Napa room -
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/jbpicturesdisneysitevisitsandVT035.jpg?t=124240562 2
Space Mountain is way off to the right.

We had dinner at the CG which I will talk more about later but we were really disappointed that fireworks are all over space mountain. I wasn't expecting them to be over the castle but I thought they would be closer to the castle. You have no idea how far space mountain is until you see it from up there. The music wasn't as loud as I would have liked it to be and I just didn't get that same feeling that I do when we watch the show with the fireworks behind the castle. :guilty: Oh well. The napa room itself is pretty cool.

Then we looked at the Living Seas Salon which was much brighter than I was expecting it to be. The windows were much smaller than I had hoped but oh well. One nice surprise is that there is a conference room with a big window. They suggested we could use it for Kids Nite Out and have lots of games and movies and stuff in there. Big Bonus. The only thing that concerns me is that I really felt like the space was too big for our group especially compared to how small and cozy the napa room is. DF really loved it and so it is still in the running.

Again it looked just like the pictures I saw online and so we didn't take any. Here is a photo from the passporter. The piano is on wheels and can easily be moved.

http://www.passporterstore.com/salon2.jpg

These pictures came from people named dave and sara!
This is the pre-reception area and also if we had a buffet where it would be set up. The fish decorations come with the room but can be removed.
http://www.daveandsara.com/wp-content/gallery/living-sea-salon/6.jpg

This picture shows you how small the windows really are and how far away they are from the tables. Its a really big space.
http://www.daveandsara.com/wp-content/gallery/living-sea-salon/7.jpg

We also looked at French Upper which I thought I would hate and I really loved it. I am so glad our coordinator picked it for us. The reason i like it so much is because it has all of these big planters with flowers all through the space which provides lots of seating so everyone can sit (if they wish) to see the fireworks.
I couldn't find any pictures of this online before the trip - so I took one!
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/jbpicturesdisneysitevisitsandVT023.jpg?t=124240702 2

So Plan A

Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Castle Wedding/CG Breakfast/Call the whole Cruise a reception

Plan B

Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Chef Mickeys Breakfast/Cruise Beach Ceremony/ Everyone spends the next night at the Boardwalk/LSS Dinner/ French Upper Fireworks


We should know the final plans for construction in 4 weeks and we will make the decision then.

29apr00
05-12-2009, 09:34 AM
wow! Still lots of choices and a whole nother month to figure it out! I'd be going crazy by now!

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 09:38 AM
SO the first day there we went and hotel hopped so DF could see all of the hotels were were considering for our guests. These are the basic conclusions we came to for the epcot area.

The Yacht Club was much darker inside then I had ever remembered it being. I liked it when we stayed there. I don't really like it anymore. The gazebo outside was really really cute and I almost like it more than the one at the Boardwalk. I liked the Beach club a lot more just because it wasn't as dark. They both win for by far the best pool on property - just because of the size and I had always remembered the water slide as being my favorite (we didn't get to do it again this trip, but I still think its my favorite).

The Boardwalk is great because of the the boardwalk and the fact that there is so much to do on it. We ended it choosing it because of the fact that little and old people could walk back from epcot and go to bed and there would be still be lots of stuff to do for anyone who wanted to stay up. We walked through the halls on the BWV side and my only impression was that the carpeting was disgusting and while back it looked like they replaces some sections but not all. The wall paper under the chair rail looked really dated. Overall it really needed to be redone. The halls on the inn side were much more cheerful and better looking. Hopefuly they just redid the inn side and are going to start work on the villa side? maybe? I hope. The pools in comparison to the yacht/ beach club looked really small and boring. But both pools were much quieter which was nice.

After looking at these three and figuring the prices I wanted to make sure DF was in agreement that they were worth the cost. So we drove over to POP just to see what it was like to compare and contrast. I had only ever seen the place from the main road driving by and didn't think I would like it at all. However I actually did really like it! It has a really long entrance with fun signs about color tv and air conditioning. I think the front drive into the gate was my favorite part - it just evoked a sense of excitement and made me think disney did a great job with the themeing. We walked in and it to me looked a lot like the all stars there was a big baloo by the pool and what impressed me most were that there no tears there seemed to be a million little kids and parents everywhere who were all really really happy. So we walked around a bit an ran into two bunnies just hanging out in the grass who didn't run when you got close to them. See even the bunnies were happy!!! They have built in twister boards all over the place and just lots of fun stuff. Then I looked up and suddenly saw ROGER http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu102/cbug319/jbpicturesdisneysitevisitsandVT012.jpg?t=124240720 5 There is this giant Roger Rabbit (he's my favorite!!!!!!) I figured everyone had forgotten about him after he disappeared from the spectromagic parade and from everything at MGM (will never call it the studios - sorry). The 80's brought him back!!! I think this is a big reason to stay here - just to look at the roger statue everyday.

So in the long run I was really impressed I liked it far more then I did All-Star Sports when we stayed there after it first opened. After that first experience we all had the attitude that once was enough - seen it - done it and never again.

For our wedding we figured we were going all out which is why we picked the boardwalk but if we didn't have our guests in mind - I honestly don't think I would mind staying at Pop if it was just the two of us.

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 09:45 AM
While we were there we got to meet the Roots who we loved. We thought everything we read was completely true. If we go the cruise wedding route they are definitely coming with us. They are also kind enough to hold the space until we hear back from disney and can make a decision. Bottom line they are the nicest people ever, their dog is adorable and their pictures are amazing!!!

So we walked into their apartment and they had a big gallery wrap of Carrie and Patrick haning in the living room!!! I walked in and thought I recognize those people!! :rotfl:

Overall we had a great meeting - Nathan and Jensey are very down to earth. There was no question in our minds that they were going to be our cruise photographers assuming we get married on the beach. If we go the castle wedding route I am going to try as hard as I can to get special permission to get them in even though its not allowed.

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 09:50 AM
wow! Still lots of choices and a whole nother month to figure it out! I'd be going crazy by now!


Here's the thing though. We have two solid plans - both of which we are really happy with. In the long run its going to come down to the construction and the answers we get on a bunch of questions. If it all works out its going to be a tough choice and I am almost scared to make it because we really like both options. So for once I am completely calm and finally just excited. I really wish we could afford to do both options and smush it into one big week, but we have to draw the line btw reality and fantasy somewhere.

LittleStinkerbelle
05-12-2009, 09:54 AM
Sounds like you had a productive trip. Glad you have a couple of options that you love. Can't wait to hear the final verdict.:goodvibes

LLLBelle
05-12-2009, 10:53 AM
Both options sound great!!! It sounds like your trip went well :cool1: I think I would have a hard time as well (but I would lean towards the castle :))

It sounds lovely!

DisneyBrideToni
05-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Sounds like you have a ton of stuff going on in both options. When you say everyone can stay at the contemporary or everyone can stay at the Boardwalk do you mean all your guests?

Good luck with getting the Roots into the park for your ceremony. If you do, there will be a lot of angry brides calling Disney. :)

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 11:27 AM
When you say everyone can stay at the contemporary or everyone can stay at the Boardwalk do you mean all your guests?

Good luck with getting the Roots into the park for your ceremony. If you do, there will be a lot of angry brides calling Disney. :)


I know its a huge long shot but I figure having the roots is something worth asking about.

For a very long list of complicated reasons we have to have all of our guests stay at the same hotel for the night before the cruise also the night after if we go with plan B. :thumbsup2

DisneyBrideToni
05-12-2009, 11:27 AM
I was just reading more of your plans. I am confused with option B.

Plan B
Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Chef Mickeys Breakfast/Cruise Beach Ceremony/ Everyone spends the next night at the Boardwalk/LSS Dinner/ French Upper Fireworks.

You will have a rehearsal dinner at the Napa room? Then stay at the Contemporary, have breakfast at Chef Mickey's, go on the cruise and have a beach ceremony then go back to Disney, stay at the Boardwalk and have a reception at LSS and a dessert party in France?

Is that right?

Also in the Napa room are you having a buffet? I had never heard of the option to have an all you can eat plated meal. Is that a new option? :confused3

irisbud
05-12-2009, 11:37 AM
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Then we looked at the Living Seas Salon which was much brighter than I was expecting it to be. The windows were much smaller than I had hoped but oh well. One nice surprise is that there is a conference room with a big window. They suggested we could use it for Kids Nite Out and have lots of games and movies and stuff in there. Big Bonus. The only thing that concerns me is that I really felt like the space was too big for our group especially compared to how small and cozy the napa room is. DF really loved it and so it is still in the running.

We also looked at French Upper which I thought I would hate and I really loved it. I am so glad our coordinator picked it for us. The reason i like it so much is because it has all of these big planters with flowers all through the space which provides lots of seating so everyone can sit (if they wish) to see the fireworks.

So Plan A

Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Castle Wedding/CG Breakfast/Call the whole Cruise a reception

Plan B

Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Chef Mickeys Breakfast/Cruise Beach Ceremony/ Everyone spends the next night at the Boardwalk/LSS Dinner/ French Upper Fireworks


We should know the final plans for construction in 4 weeks and we will make the decision then.

I am confused. I thought you couldn't do the reception at Palo because your guests would not allow their children to stay in any kind of Kid's Club? :confused3 Why would using Kid's Night Out be okay but using the servies on the Wonder would not? Since this was one of your major hang-ups as far as doing the cruise wedding, then I guess I don't see why it is a hang-up at all?!?!? Just curious as to what the difference is :cutie:

As far as Disney allowing the Roots to photograph your wedding at the Castle...I do not see that happening. I agree with Toni, there would be a mob of angry brides coming down on DFTW. Hard. I really can't see them bending on this as they would know they would be called out on it, especially in this day and age.

I hope everything works out for you, though, and you get the wedding of your dreams. :cloud9: I also hope DFTW gets back to you ASAP. I know it's hard to make a decision without all the info you need right now, but once you have it, you can make a decision and give up the space you won't be using (esp. if you decide against the cruise) to others who might want it :goodvibes.

Good luck :wizard:

Bride-to-be
05-12-2009, 11:52 AM
I was just reading more of your plans. I am confused with option B.

Plan B
Napa Room/Everyone stays at the Contemp/Chef Mickeys Breakfast/Cruise Beach Ceremony/ Everyone spends the next night at the Boardwalk/LSS Dinner/ French Upper Fireworks.

You will have a rehearsal dinner at the Napa room? Then stay at the Contemporary, have breakfast at Chef Mickey's, go on the cruise and have a beach ceremony then go back to Disney, stay at the Boardwalk and have a reception at LSS and a dessert party in France?

Is that right?

Yes thats right.

Also in the Napa room are you having a buffet? I had never heard of the option to have an all you can eat plated meal. Is that a new option? :confused3

The Napa room isn't a buffet. Its plated, but for the meat they give you three options and instead of having your guests decide ahead of time or at the beginning of the meal they apparently bring it out on platters and the servers walk around to all the guests offering the three options. Our coordinator said it was really great because that way if someone wants to try everything they can and if they only like chicken they can just have chicken and he said they are really good about coming around with more until everyone has had enough. I was really confused about it before but now I think it sounds great!

I am confused. I thought you couldn't do the reception at Palo because your guests would not allow their children to stay in any kind of Kid's Club? :confused3 Why would using Kid's Night Out be okay but using the servies on the Wonder would not? Since this was one of your major hang-ups as far as doing the cruise wedding, then I guess I don't see why it is a hang-up at all?!?!? Just curious as to what the difference is :cutie:

With the kids night out at the LSS the conference room is connected to the main room so the kids could walk out to see their parents and the parents could easily go in to check on the kids whenever they wanted. The kids still get a party and the choice to join in the kids party or stay with the adults. so its a little different than just the kids clubs on the ship where the parents aren't close by. I think of it as being the same as if we COULD rent out palo w/ kids we would set something up for the kids in the little private room. At this point I am beyond frustrated and not even thinking about anything cruise anymore as far as receptions stuff.

ElleBren
05-12-2009, 12:01 PM
With the kids night out at the LSS the conference room is connected to the main room so the kids could walk out to see their parents and the parents could easily go in to check on the kids whenever they wanted. The kids still get a party and the choice to join in the kids party or stay with the adults. so its a little different than just the kids clubs on the ship where the parents aren't close by. I think of it as being the same as if we COULD rent out palo w/ kids we would set something up for the kids in the little private room. At this point I am beyond frustrated and not even thinking about anything cruise anymore as far as receptions stuff.

Actually with KNO the kids can't just walk back and forth. They are signed in by their parents and can't leave unless the parents signs them out. Also I am not sure how many times they can go in and out. The parents on the other hand can go visit as much as possible. When I had our event the kids were a 2 min walk away in one of the other ballrooms. I was able to check on kids any time I wanted.

I didn't give options to kids, hence the KNO. All kids, including our dd went into the play room and then at the end got picked up. Most parents went to check on them, but it was more like a look in. All my little cousins had an amazing time, I don't think the parents even needed to check in for the kids sake.

irisbud
05-12-2009, 12:05 PM
With the kids night out at the LSS the conference room is connected to the main room so the kids could walk out to see their parents and the parents could easily go in to check on the kids whenever they wanted. The kids still get a party and the choice to join in the kids party or stay with the adults. so its a little different than just the kids clubs on the ship where the parents aren't close by. I think of it as being the same as if we COULD rent out palo w/ kids we would set something up for the kids in the little private room. At this point I am beyond frustrated and not even thinking about anything cruise anymore as far as receptions stuff.

That makes more sense. Sorry you are still so frustrated :guilty:

On another note, do you have any pictures from your trip? We all love pictures :goodvibes