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Natasha&Matt
02-23-2009, 08:38 AM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090223/tuk-one-armed-cbeebies-host-scaring-chil-45dbed5.html

This is so silly!!

What are your thoughts?

natalielongstaff
02-23-2009, 08:48 AM
I think its totally stupid ! i had to look before i noticed her arm :confused3 Parents should explain to the kids what happened and teach them tolerence !

mandymouse
02-23-2009, 08:50 AM
I read this earlier, and I was absolutely appauled. Not everyone is perfect in this world, and if children grow up knowing that people are different and some have disabilities, then they are less likely to be shocked or be awkward around them - I really feel for the lovely girl involved

wishspirit
02-23-2009, 08:52 AM
That makes me sick to the core. How dare they!! If she is a good presenter, she is a good presenter, children should be taught to look past physical apperence.

If I had a child who watched this, it would not upset me in the slightest, i would just tell them the truth!

I think this shows more about attitudes to people with disabilities by the parents, rather than the children. Truely sickening!

emily1982
02-23-2009, 08:54 AM
Yes children will ask questions, but we're just becoming a cotton wool society.

CustardTart
02-23-2009, 09:02 AM
I really can't put into words how much I despair of some factions of society so here are a few smilies to do the job for me...

:faint:
:sad2:
:sad2:
:furious:
:furious:
:furious:

Bolanette87
02-23-2009, 09:09 AM
I think this is terrible.... I would never have noticed if someone hadn't pointed it out!!

Bob xoxoxox

aaronandterri
02-23-2009, 09:11 AM
it worries me the way our society is going........

Bolanette87
02-23-2009, 09:14 AM
Yes children will ask questions, but we're just becoming a cotton wool society.

Exactly... I know I'm not a parent myself, but I'd want my children to learn about the world around them. It's the only way to stop them being terrified of everything.... The world can be a nasty enough place without people kicking up a silly fuss about things like this...

Bob xoxoxox

Pinky166
02-23-2009, 09:15 AM
It is truely shocking & angers me so much, what an earth is going on in this world!!! :mad: Maybe there would be less bullying in schools if children were to see from an early age that people are different.

I feel so sorry for the presenter involved as I bet this is very upsetting for her.

scottish mum
02-23-2009, 09:33 AM
It really angers me that if we're not "perfect" we're abnormal. My DD watches cbeebies and she has not even noticed.

How are kids supposed to learn about differences in other people if they are censored on tv. If they see people who have some sort of diability and explained why or how it happened they won't think anything of it. It's the minority of parents that cause the problem

Lizzybear
02-23-2009, 09:35 AM
I think instead of assuming their children will find someone else's disability scary, the parents who complained should use it as an opportunity to talk about how we're all different etc instead of pushing their own prejudiced views.

natalielongstaff
02-23-2009, 09:35 AM
Miss Burnell was disappointed by the criticism but welcomed the discussion.

"It can only be a good thing that parents are using me as a chance to talk disability with their children," she said.

"It just goes to show how important it is to have positive disabled role models on CBeebies and television in general."

Enough said !

wils
02-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Quite ridiculous :(

Whan Molly was at pre-school one of the helpers was in a wheelchair. It took a few seconds explanation when she asked and that was the end of the matter as she just accepted it! She adored him and was quite grateful that his lap was always available to hold her doll :)

Whatever next :confused3

pixiepower04
02-23-2009, 11:03 AM
Are we not told at some point that children acquire learned responses so if you as an adult freak out about a spider or hate going over bridges or are scared of heights then the child will also be like that at some point because they pick up on your fear and make it their own, it makes me wonder what the parents of these children did or said to make the child 'feel' scared in the first place.

My kids always ask me questions about anything they don't already know the answer to like 'why is that person in a wheelchair' or 'why doesn't that person have an arm' etc. I tell them what I know or what I think I know and they are quite happy with that. They don't look at them any differently and I think that's partly because DH is in the Ambulance Service and discusses things with them so they don't feel afraid.

I try not to shield them from anything, including the news (to some degree of course) but I don't like the fact that when the news is on the radio at 3pm when the kids are in the car they will still report about rapes and sexual assaults and i'm just waiting for the day my DD10 asks me what rape is.

I kind of feel that if there is a watershed on the telly there should also be one on the radio.

But anyway, we have to stop pointing out 'differences' in people otherwise we will never have a society that our children are comfortable and secure with.

I feel sorry the teacher has even had to go through this and if I was her I would be quite cross and singled out underneath the calm composure.

Snowy-girls
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
I am absolutley disgusted+appalled by this.
My Dd4 noticed a few weeks ago she had only 1 arm(i did'nt)and said to me 'look at that lady,she's got no hand+fingers'.So i explained that she was either born like it or had it amputated because of an accident.Why can't other parents do the same?.
Even Dd7 asks questions if she see's someone in a wheelchair,one leg etc..and i am glad they ask me+it's more than they know is too not stare(as i find other children doing+even their parents).x.

The Fetherstons
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
I think this is absoloubtly apauling:mad: and I really feel sorry for the poor girl:hug: , it really shouldnt matter, this really makes me mad:headache:

PoppyAnna
02-23-2009, 12:01 PM
My children haven't even noticed it (not sure if that's a good or bad thing) but they have noticed the new presenters. They miss Chris and Pui who they really did like:lmao:
There have been incidents at nursery with both of my girls involving other children and I must say the other child in both cases had, lets say clear differences in their appearance compared to my girls (one was west indian and one had an eye patch/glasses) and not once did either of my children use these things like a label to describe to me who had hit them, they mentioned the childs name and it's sex. I think if parents/grown-ups make an issue of differences they become an issue for children.
Cbeebies is one of only three channels the girls are allowed to watch at their age (it's my fave as no ads:thumbsup2 ) and I encourage them to watch it when they ask to watch TV, I think the BBC have done nothing wrong employing this presenter, she certainly hasn't scared my girls, I hope they are made of stronger stuff than that:thumbsup2

Cyrano
02-23-2009, 12:40 PM
I really can't put into words how much I despair of some factions of society so here are a few smilies to do the job for me...

:faint:
:sad2:
:sad2:
:furious:
:furious:
:furious:

:thumbsup2

The thing is children are adaptable and tolerant... until given the suggestion to think otherwise :confused3

DD's class has a child who has a number of disabilities. The positive effect this has on both that child and the other children is plain to see. Yes we reminded the council that a number of changes would have to be made. Try looking at an environment sitting down. It is amazing how many items such as door handles are located in an inaccessible place :rolleyes1

eyeore
02-23-2009, 01:04 PM
as a mum of a disabled child this sickens me, but doesnt surprise me. i agree it is usually the parents who have the problem not the kids. i would rather somebody asked me about my sons disability than to stare at him. my little boy is in mainstream primary and his classmates have grew up with him and they dont even see his wheelchair anymore! but when he goes up the town shopping with me .........different story!! and yes its adults and the elderly.:furious: this young lady is doing a great job i only hope she's left alone to get on with it. btw great to see good support for the disabled on the dis:thumbsup2 knew you were a good bunch::grouphug:

hildasmuriel
02-23-2009, 01:25 PM
There have been incidents at nursery with both of my girls involving other children and I must say the other child in both cases had, lets say clear differences in their appearance compared to my girls (one was west indian and one had an eye patch/glasses) and not once did either of my children use these things like a label to describe to me who had hit them, they mentioned the childs name and it's sex.


When my nephew was little he was telling my sister about something Daniel, a child in his class had done. There were 2 Daniels and my sister wondered which one he meant. He went such a long way round to describe which Daniel ("the one with the blue lunch box, you know the one who sits next to Ben in Maths" etc etc.) It obviously never occured to him that the most obvious physical difference was one Daniel was white and one was black.:lmao:

~Piglet~
02-23-2009, 02:19 PM
Absolutely daft!

After reading poster Barry's comment in the yahoo story link; "I know it would have played on my eldest daughter's mind and possibly caused sleep problems" did it not occur to him to explain to his daughter about the lady's disability, rather than assume she would be frightened by it :confused3

DP and I watch the bedtime hour with our DD (2yo) and neither of us had noticed her arm. The only comment from DD has been to do with the loss of Chris and Pui ;)

Verity Chambers
02-23-2009, 02:23 PM
I'm horrified by people's response to this! :scared1: I was just telling my husband and he didn't believe me and insisted on seeing the story for himself!

What on earth are people teaching their children nowadays?

My 3YO has not actually noticed!

But we do REALLY miss Chris and Pui? Where have they gone?

Snowy-girls
02-23-2009, 02:30 PM
Chris+Pui left last month,as they are staring in a new programme together in May 2009 called Show Me Show Me.x.

Verity Chambers
02-23-2009, 02:39 PM
Chris+Pui left last month,as they are staring in a new programme together in May 2009 called Show Me Show Me.x.

The bedtime song just isn't the same when not sung by Chris!! (Very sad on my part, but true! ;) )

T16GEM
02-23-2009, 03:55 PM
Shelby hasn't even noticed that she is any different, if she does ask me though I will do as Marlin did with Nemo on his 1st day of school and say "She was born with it kids!" :) Seriously though I cannot believe the things that people complain about these days, I dread to think sometimes what kind of world we have bought our children into. Sad times.

PoppyAnna
02-24-2009, 01:59 AM
Chris+Pui left last month,as they are staring in a new programme together in May 2009 called Show Me Show Me.x.

Thank goodness;) the girls will be pleased:thumbsup2

I was listening to BBC London radio quite late last night and it was a topic of discussion late into the night, I feel so sorry for the poor presenter, after our "straw poll" on here, most folk hadn't even noticed and yet so much fuss is now being made of her minor disability. I hope the BBC doesn't make a stupid decision over this.

higgy66
02-24-2009, 02:06 AM
My girls have moved on to CBBC but do still look in on Cebeebies.

I have to say they didn't even notice and it wasn't until a few weeks after she started that a friend came to play and when they were watching it together the friend pointed it out.

I'm constantly explaining to the girls about the differences between people. I don't see what the big deal is? :confused3

I actually commented to my DH that I thought it was a good move by the BBC. :thumbsup2

In all honesty Children handle things better than adults and it's grown ups who freak out about things and then "assume" how their child must be feeling!

Snowy-girls
02-24-2009, 03:42 AM
In all honesty Children handle things better than adults and it's grown ups who freak out about things and then "assume" how their child must be feeling!

I completley agree with this statement :thumbsup2 .x.

bumblebeez
02-24-2009, 03:57 AM
I'm shocked by this story. My kids (6 and 2) watch CBEEBIES and neither of them have commented on the presenter. I think this has more to do with adults being uncomfortable than kids being scared. I think it's great for kids to see positive role models on tv with disabilities.

darthtatty
02-24-2009, 05:40 AM
as a mum of a disabled child this sickens me, but doesnt surprise me. i agree it is usually the parents who have the problem not the kids. i would rather somebody asked me about my sons disability than to stare at him. my little boy is in mainstream primary and his classmates have grew up with him and they dont even see his wheelchair anymore! but when he goes up the town shopping with me .........different story!! and yes its adults and the elderly.:furious: this young lady is doing a great job i only hope she's left alone to get on with it. btw great to see good support for the disabled on the dis:thumbsup2 knew you were a good bunch::grouphug:

i was just going to post pretty much the same thing :thumbsup2

its terrible what this world is coming too. :sad2:

oceanscape
02-24-2009, 05:53 AM
I think this has more to do with adults being uncomfortable than kids being scared.
Completely agree. I was in Starbucks this morning with a friend, and we overheard two women on the table next to us discussing this very issue.... one said "it is soooo inappropriate to have her as a presenter, it's not exactly child friendly". I was :scared1: :scared1: :scared1: and felt like going over and giving her a piece of my mind. :(

wishspirit
02-24-2009, 08:39 AM
What I don't understand, is that the programme 'Something Special' is played all the time, with children with physical and learning disabilities on it. Why hasn't there been outrage about this too?

It just reeks if 'easy target' to me!

PoppyAnna
02-24-2009, 08:50 AM
What I don't understand, is that the programme 'Something Special' is played all the time, with children with physical and learning disabilities on it. Why hasn't there been outrage about this too?

It just reeks if 'easy target' to me!

I never thought of that Kate, well spotted:thumbsup2
The thing about Cbeebies is, it's hits the nail on the head. It's so well done, and in my personal opinion the BBC hasn't always got children's TV right. If anything happens to spoil the atmosphere of the presenters fill inbetween programmes I think viewers will tune out.

natalielongstaff
02-24-2009, 09:45 AM
What I don't understand, is that the programme 'Something Special' is played all the time, with children with physical and learning disabilities on it. Why hasn't there been outrage about this too?

It just reeks if 'easy target' to me!

very good point !! we love something Special....Mr Tumble is a bit full on for me tho :rotfl2:

Snowy-girls
02-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Sorry off topic but Justin is cute :thumbsup2 .
Dd4 loves watching Something Special(and knows some sign language as a result of doing so)+Higgledy House.x.

Dr_Finkelstein
02-24-2009, 01:52 PM
It's obviously the parents who have issues and they are passing it onto their kids.

Honestly, if that presenter (attractive, friendly, intelligent) can give your kids nightmares, then there is something wrong with your child!

Di x

Booknut
02-24-2009, 03:27 PM
It saddens me so much how every day there seems to be something new in the news that disappoints me about people...this story is seriously sad and pathetic.

What chance have those kids got with parents like that? :sad2:

orlandothebeagle
02-24-2009, 05:01 PM
Completely agree. I was in Starbucks this morning with a friend, and we overheard two women on the table next to us discussing this very issue.... one said "it is soooo inappropriate to have her as a presenter, it's not exactly child friendly". I was :scared1: :scared1: :scared1: and felt like going over and giving her a piece of my mind. :(

The fact that you could even hear them speaks volumes.
:confused3