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DVC_Corrys
02-19-2009, 11:08 PM
Hello,
My wife and I are planning our first "home" trip in September. We are not doing the DDP and were considering the TIW. However, I am under the impression we get discounts at restaurants with DVC.

Has anyone figured out of TIW is worth it for a DVC member??

ammo
02-20-2009, 12:28 AM
It depends on how often you use the card. However, TIW gives you a discount at many more restaurants than your DVC card. And the DVC dining discounts seem to shrink a bit every year. Below is a link to a comparison of dining discounts (TIW is still listed under its old name -- DDE). You will notice that the differences between the discounts are substantial.

http://allears.net/pl/disc_dining.pdf

Pootle
02-20-2009, 04:25 AM
Below is a link to a comparison of dining discounts (TIW is still listed under its old name -- DDE). You will notice that the differences between the discounts are substantial.

http://allears.net/pl/disc_dining.pdf

An excellent link - thank you :thumbsup2

I have spare DVC AP vouchers and hopper passes (from years ago) and I am thinking it may not be worthwhile activating the AP vouchers for our next trip, but using a few days of the passes instead. However, I really wanted a new TIW card but that is now solved, we will just try the (ok, very limited) restaurants giving a DVC discount instead!

Fed up with Le Cellier anyway ;)

Muhlenberg
02-20-2009, 04:32 AM
The breakeven point for the TIW card vs. no discount is $300 in meals. It only takes a few TS meals to pay for the card, depending on the number of people and where you eat. The DVC discounts are mostly for lunches, whereas the TIW can be used anytime. I have yet to encounter a Disney-owned restaurant that DIDN'T accept the TIW, but the DVC discounted restaurants are very limited.

I got the TIW for our trip in August for 6 nights, and it paid for itself on that trip. We just took a trip in January, and the TIW saved us $200. We'll get yet another trip out of that card in September...the cards are good for 13 months. So for us, it was WELL worth it. (And that doesn't even delve into the 20% TIW discount vs 10% DVC discount.) It has the added benefit of free valet service for dining purposes at non-DVC resorts.:thumbsup2

dianeschlicht
02-20-2009, 05:17 AM
The breakeven point for the TIW card vs. no discount is $300 in meals. It only takes a few TS meals to pay for the card, depending on the number of people and where you eat. The DVC discounts are mostly for lunches, whereas the TIW can be used anytime. I have yet to encounter a Disney-owned restaurant that DIDN'T accept the TIW, but the DVC discounted restaurants are very limited.

I got the TIW for our trip in August for 6 nights, and it paid for itself on that trip. We just took a trip in January, and the TIW saved us $200. We'll get yet another trip out of that card in September...the cards are good for 13 months. So for us, it was WELL worth it. (And that doesn't even delve into the 20% TIW discount vs 10% DVC discount.) It has the added benefit of free valet service for dining purposes at non-DVC resorts.:thumbsup2

I totally agree with this assessment! We have had similar experiences. The other great thing is that our guests were able to get the TIW discount too by ust letting us pay to begin with and reimbursing us later. With the TIW card, all dinners have to be on one check that the card is used on.

DVC_Corrys
02-20-2009, 09:50 AM
THAT SETTLES IT!!!!!
Thanks a ton.

spiceycat
02-20-2009, 09:59 AM
yea generally it is 10% for DVC, 20% tiw

that say DVC has some TIW doesn't that are 20% - the restuarants in the dolphin and swan.

plus think that DVC has more at DD than TIW - so you need to take both.

Thumper4me
02-20-2009, 10:50 AM
The other BIG difference for us is that the TIW gives you a discount on adult beverages where as the other discount programs do not. :)

ammo
02-20-2009, 11:00 AM
There are a lot of good points made, but be aware that TIW is not accepted in all Disney restaurants. The counter service restaurants generally will not accept TIW, such as Pecos Bill or Columbia Harbor House in MK, or Roaring Forks in the Wilderness Lodge (but Beaches and Cream does for eat-in). But it is great for TS dining.

Magicdad
02-21-2009, 03:36 PM
Ammo has a good point. On my first trip I did not maximize my TIW card. Now I plan sit down lunches and share the entries between us for about the same price as a counter service meal.

Boardwalk III
02-21-2009, 06:10 PM
I have a DDE card I got last April which I will be using on my March trip - do I have to get a new TIW card issued or will my 2008 card still work?

ammo
02-21-2009, 06:37 PM
I have a DDE card I got last April which I will be using on my March trip - do I have to get a new TIW card issued or will my 2008 card still work?

It will definitely work in March, and it probably goes through the end of May. You can probably see the expiration date on the card itself. You can also find a thread that explains the dating of the card. For some reason they last a bit longer than a year -- if you buy it in late April it typically expires at the end of the next May.

Tara
02-21-2009, 09:00 PM
The breakeven point for the TIW card vs. no discount is $300 in meals. It only takes a few TS meals to pay for the card, depending on the number of people and where you eat. The DVC discounts are mostly for lunches, whereas the TIW can be used anytime. I have yet to encounter a Disney-owned restaurant that DIDN'T accept the TIW, but the DVC discounted restaurants are very limited.

I got the TIW for our trip in August for 6 nights, and it paid for itself on that trip. We just took a trip in January, and the TIW saved us $200. We'll get yet another trip out of that card in September...the cards are good for 13 months. So for us, it was WELL worth it. (And that doesn't even delve into the 20% TIW discount vs 10% DVC discount.) It has the added benefit of free valet service for dining purposes at non-DVC resorts.:thumbsup2

We reached the break even point in 2 meals. :) (Jiko and California Grill)

The awesome part about the card is that we bought it for our mid-November trip last year. It doesn't expire until the end of this year, so we'll get 3 trips out of it, plus I'll probably use it at least once when I do a non-Disney weekend with girlfriends next month.

mmcculloch
02-22-2009, 05:05 AM
I to am thinking no DDP

I rented points for our next trip (but have since bought at BLT yeah!)
My dining reservations have been made...I know that the DVC member I rented from can call am have the DDP removed from my ressie. Should I call dining and switch my ressie off of the DDP? How do I do this and is it possible to switch at this poitn.

Boardwalk III
02-22-2009, 08:53 AM
As a long-time DVC member I can say I think the DDE (TiW) is one of the the best discount deals available (if you have an annual pass)..... we travel with friends and almost always have 6 or more people in our party..we are able to use the 20% discount on the entire meal , including alcohol, at almost all sit down restaurants. For each 5-7 day trip it has saved us and our friends hundreds of dollars!

allshookup
02-22-2009, 03:01 PM
I to am thinking no DDP

I rented points for our next trip (but have since bought at BLT yeah!)
My dining reservations have been made...I know that the DVC member I rented from can call am have the DDP removed from my ressie. Should I call dining and switch my ressie off of the DDP? How do I do this and is it possible to switch at this poitn.

I don't think you have to bother. As long as you have the party you rented from remove the DDP, just tell the restaurants when you check in for your reservation that you are not on the dining plan. The servers just like to know beforehand, but it's not a big deal.

bonybroad
02-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Okay, where do I get a tiw card?
We won't be upgrading to annual passes until our second day there, but the TIW looks like something we should have.
DDPis sooooo expensive. $83 a day for four people ???

allshookup
02-22-2009, 05:39 PM
Okay, where do I get a tiw card?
We won't be upgrading to annual passes until our second day there, but the TIW looks like something we should have.
DDPis sooooo expensive. $83 a day for four people ???

Guest Relations at any of the parks or Downtown Disney.

mom3sonstt
02-23-2009, 01:28 PM
We were a party of 6 last year and also had 2 friends coming down for their own trip during part of our trip. We have never purchased the dining plan, but did look into the dining experience - after plotting out what restaurants we would most likely eat at, and what the general prices were I looked at the chart that was posted in a prior post and calculated how much we would save as DVC (for free) vs DDE (including the price of the card) and DDE was a significant winner even with having to purchase it. Of course our dining choices did change from what I originally estimated and we actually wound up saving even more - we got the price of the card back in no time and saved quite a bit on top of that - plus we are going back this year and it is still valid so everything saved will be extra :thumbsup2

Looking at my card - it was purchased 8/6/08 and is good thru 9/30/09 I don't understand why it is so much longer than the 12 months - but since our trip this year is 8/2-10 I am thankful because if it was strictly 12 months it would expire halfway through our trip :sad1:

ILIKEWDW
02-26-2009, 12:25 AM
the cards are good for 13 months. So for us, it was WELL worth it. (And that doesn't even delve into the 20% TIW discount vs 10% DVC discount.) It has the added benefit of free valet service for dining purposes at non-DVC resorts.:thumbsup2

Is TIW good for 13 months?

What about the AP? is it also good for 13 months, or just 12?......

allshookup
02-26-2009, 11:36 AM
Is TIW good for 13 months?

What about the AP? is it also good for 13 months, or just 12?......

AP expires in 12 months & the TIW expires in 13 months.

mjfox
02-26-2009, 11:47 AM
The breakeven point for the TIW card vs. no discount is $300 in meals. It only takes a few TS meals to pay for the card, depending on the number of people and where you eat. The DVC discounts are mostly for lunches, whereas the TIW can be used anytime. I have yet to encounter a Disney-owned restaurant that DIDN'T accept the TIW, but the DVC discounted restaurants are very limited.


I know of one restaurant that doesn't accept the TIW - Epcot Japan restaurant. I was supprised and after we left and went back to the hotel I looked it up and I think it is the only on property Disney that doesn't accept it.

allshookup
02-26-2009, 12:04 PM
I know of one restaurant that doesn't accept the TIW - Epcot Japan restaurant. I was supprised and after we left and went back to the hotel I looked it up and I think it is the only on property Disney that doen't accept it.

That's because it's not Disney owned (it's still owned by Mitsukoshi) & also why you'll find many of the DTD restaurants do not participate, because they are also not Disney owned. Most of the non-Disney restaurants will not participate.

princessfionasmom
02-26-2009, 02:55 PM
I am also thinking of TIW card for our Oct trip. DS hates the choices for kids DDP so this time we are not doing it. My Q is, I have my AP which expires in Dec that I will obviously use for our Oct trip. I don't plan on renewing it. But lets say I get TIW card and use it this trip. Then I go next year and don't have AP, can I still use TIW card next year? I'm just curious, I don't think I'm going next year because we are doing 10 days for our Oct trip so I don't have any more points til Oct 2010.
Thanks,
Carmel

allshookup
02-26-2009, 03:09 PM
I am also thinking of TIW card for our Oct trip. DS hates the choices for kids DDP so this time we are not doing it. My Q is, I have my AP which expires in Dec that I will obviously use for our Oct trip. I don't plan on renewing it. But lets say I get TIW card and use it this trip. Then I go next year and don't have AP, can I still use TIW card next year? I'm just curious, I don't think I'm going next year because we are doing 10 days for our Oct trip so I don't have any more points til Oct 2010.
Thanks,
Carmel

As long as you use the TIW card before the 13 months is up, then it's still good. :thumbsup2

mikmouse
02-26-2009, 03:27 PM
I totally agree with this assessment! We have had similar experiences. The other great thing is that our guests were able to get the TIW discount too by ust letting us pay to begin with and reimbursing us later. With the TIW card, all dinners have to be on one check that the card is used on.

Last month we spent 5 days and at every sit down restaurant where we used the TIW card, the servers were kind enough to break out our bills and split the check. They were very accommodating this trip as long as they knew ahead of time. That was great because we were 3 diferent parties at each restaurant.

ILIKEWDW
03-04-2009, 02:32 PM
As long as you use the TIW card before the 13 months is up, then it's still good. :thumbsup2

This is great!!! so I can use TIW for my September 09 trip and my September 10 trip with only one AP!!!!

Big savings for us!!! are you sure we can do that?

DVC_Corrys
03-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Boooo on the price increase

allshookup
03-04-2009, 04:35 PM
This is great!!! so I can use TIW for my September 09 trip and my September 10 trip with only one AP!!!!

Big savings for us!!! are you sure we can do that?

Yes! :goodvibes We bought our TIW card on 10/9/08 & it says valid through 11/30/09 so actually more than 11 months. It states, "to obtain your Tables in Wonderland membership benefit, please present this card with driver's license or state I.D. at the time of purchase." It doesn't say anything about having to show an AP & I've never been asked for one. You have to show your AP at the time you purchase your TIW card, but once you have one...it's yours till it expires. :thumbsup2

kellyf2626
03-04-2009, 04:51 PM
When we used our DDE back in the day, we always simply rationalized it as "paying" for the tip (the 20% off the bill would have been the 20% tip we left), not really a discount on the meal. We still saved lots of $$ though!! :thumbsup2

jimmacmn
03-05-2009, 10:09 AM
There are a lot of good points made, but be aware that TIW is not accepted in all Disney restaurants. The counter service restaurants generally will not accept TIW, such as Pecos Bill or Columbia Harbor House in MK, or Roaring Forks in the Wilderness Lodge (but Beaches and Cream does for eat-in). But it is great for TS dining.

There are some counter service restaurants that do accept TIW. Flame Tree and Pizzafari in Animal Kingdom accept it and many of the CS restaurants at resorts will also take it. I know specifically that it is accepted at Artists Pallate at SSR because I used it several times there last week. Also just because the party is supposed to be all one one bill doesn't mean the member has to be the one paying. For the MLK weekend trip DW and I took we usually just evenly split the bill with the other couple we traveled with. For several of the meals I had last week on my guys golf trip, the had totals for each seat and we each paid our own balance with cash or credit card as desired. We've already saved a ton of $ with the card and it will still be good when we go back in Oct.

mom3sonstt
03-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Seven months after the fact I finally went through and tallied all our expenses from our last trip. It was kind of a strange trip for us - it was
Day 1 - Check In, go to DD, bought oldest DS his PAP, and DH bought the DDE/TIW
Day 2 - 5 - Hit each of the 4 parks with the 4 boys
Day 6 - 9 - Hit each of the 4 parks again with some friends who had never been before - bought DVC sight unseen on our recommendation
Day 10 - Hit a few things we missed in various spots meeting up with boys and/or friends at various times
Day 11 - Quick trip to Magic Kingdom to take some Christmas card pics of the boys then had to catch the Magic Express

All that was said just to show there was no set formula to our usage of the DDE/TIW.

Lunch 6 Primetime
Lunch 4 Restaurantosaurus
Dinner 3 Olivias
Lunch 6 Garden Grille
Lunch 4 Liberty Tree
Lunch 4 Tusker House
Lunch 4 Primetime

Total Savings $110.81 - Purchase Price $60 - Ahead by 50.81

Plus as a Thank You for "interrupting" our trip to play tour guides, our friends bought us lunch at Garden Grille another day - we used the card but they paid so I don't know how much they saved on that one - probably around $20.

We do a lot of counter service meals so there were a lot of places we couldn't use it, plus we have breakfast food, snacks, and sandwich stuff in our room so we don't purchase every meal. There were a few times it could have been used at a place the boys ate, but since DH wasn't with them and the card is in his name we couldn't take advantage of it.

This upcoming trip every savings will be above and beyond.

That said - we had and will have a large group. If it were just DH & I going I don't know if we would get it because with just two people I don't know if we would get full advantage out of it. But it will probably be a while before it's just the 2 of us so who knows :confused3