No princess since Mulan...

[cathie1327]

On the subject of Giselle from Enchanted as a princess...

I think it's because the story never says Giselle is a princess, in fact she even says that she's not a princess but "will be soon" meaning once she marries prince Edward.

She never actually marrries him as she falls in love with the other dude, so she never becomes a real princess....

I've seen these movies way way way too much :) :) :)

Just wanted to give my two cents :)

[UrsulasShadow]

Mulan is NOT a princess! She's a hero, for goodness sake!

[Launchpad11B]

Mulan is NOT a princess! She's a hero, for goodness sake!

Indeed she was! :thumbsup2

[wishspirit]

Mulan is so underrated a character, however she is NOT a princess. She is a butt-kicking saviour of China! :goodvibes

[cathie1327]

Wow, you guys are totally right! She's not really a princess either!!!! Okay....so who okayed to include her and not Giselle?!?!?!?! lol ;)

[acename]

On the subject of Giselle from Enchanted as a princess...

I think it's because the story never says Giselle is a princess, in fact she even says that she's not a princess but "will be soon" meaning once she marries prince Edward.

She never actually marrries him as she falls in love with the other dude, so she never becomes a real princess....

I've seen these movies way way way too much :) :) :)

Just wanted to give my two cents :)

I said the same thing...then realized that I've seen this movie way too many times. Even at 18months it's my daughters favorite movie and we watch it at least once a day.:rotfl2:

[bellaDisneydncr]

On the subject of Giselle from Enchanted as a princess...

I think it's because the story never says Giselle is a princess, in fact she even says that she's not a princess but "will be soon" meaning once she marries prince Edward.

She never actually marrries him as she falls in love with the other dude, so she never becomes a real princess....

I've seen these movies way way way too much :) :) :)

Just wanted to give my two cents :)

And if you really want to get technical- Nancy becomes a princess :cutie: She does marry Edward! Princess Nancy- I like it haha

Mulan is NOT a princess! She's a hero, for goodness sake!

THANK YOU! This is one of my biggest arguments :laughing: I usually duke it out with my friends about her.... they never win :rolleyes1
We're not saying she isn't awesome- she's just not a princess! She's a kick-butt hero!

[doconeill]

Wow, you guys are totally right! She's not really a princess either!!!! Okay....so who okayed to include her and not Giselle?!?!?!?! lol ;)

Lawyers... :)

[challer]

I did notice Kevin (I think) said that the Princess & the Frog will be the first hand-drawn animated movie since Lilo & Stitch. In fact, Treasure Planet (November 17, 2002) and Brother Bear (October 20, 2003) came after L&S (June 16, 2002) (I still maintain that Brother Bear was one of the best Disney movies that no one's seen). That was then followed by Home on the Range (March 21, 2004 - a very forgettable film).

[alebisi]

I did notice Kevin (I think) said that the Princess & the Frog will be the first hand-drawn animated movie since Lilo & Stitch. In fact, Treasure Planet (November 17, 2002) and Brother Bear (October 20, 2003) came after L&S (June 16, 2002) (I still maintain that Brother Bear was one of the best Disney movies that no one's seen). That was then followed by Home on the Range (March 21, 2004 - a very forgettable film).

that's what I tought when I heard that in the podcast, I hope this movie (princess and the frog) is good...

[wishspirit]

I did notice Kevin (I think) said that the Princess & the Frog will be the first hand-drawn animated movie since Lilo & Stitch. In fact, Treasure Planet (November 17, 2002) and Brother Bear (October 20, 2003) came after L&S (June 16, 2002) (I still maintain that Brother Bear was one of the best Disney movies that no one's seen). That was then followed by Home on the Range (March 21, 2004 - a very forgettable film).

I claim that as the Emperor’s New Groove. I LOVE that film!

[doconeill]

I did notice Kevin (I think) said that the Princess & the Frog will be the first hand-drawn animated movie since Lilo & Stitch. In fact, Treasure Planet (November 17, 2002) and Brother Bear (October 20, 2003) came after L&S (June 16, 2002) (I still maintain that Brother Bear was one of the best Disney movies that no one's seen). That was then followed by Home on the Range (March 21, 2004 - a very forgettable film).

Ironically, Brother Bear was the last movie fully produced at DHS (then Disney-MGM Studios of course) - and the previous one was Lilo & Stitch.

But one point about Treasure Planet - it DID include CGI in parts, so it was not 100% hand drawn.

[crazydisneyman]

Okay so if Mulan was not a princess, then

Cinderella was not a princess at the start of the movie, right?
Snow White was not as well, right?
Belle was not, right?

But at WDW these are considered Princesses, so what gives?

[doconeill]

Okay so if Mulan was not a princess, then

Cinderella was not a princess at the start of the movie, right?
Snow White was not as well, right?
Belle was not, right?

But at WDW these are considered Princesses, so what gives?

Well, they did all MARRY into royalty...Mulan did not if I'm not mistaken...

Actually, wasn't Snow White a princess by birth?

[alebisi]

Okay so if Mulan was not a princess, then

Cinderella was not a princess at the start of the movie, right?
Snow White was not as well, right?
Belle was not, right?

But at WDW these are considered Princesses, so what gives?

I hope I'm not wrong but I think that Snow White was a princess at the begginin of the movie... because she was step daughter of the evil queen?? correct me if I'm wrong:thumbsup2

[mommytothreeboys]

Wasn't Snow White's father the king? Thus making her stepmother the evil queen? I think Snow White and Aurora were princesses by birth, Cinderella and Belle were not, they married into royalty. Mulan is not a princess.

Funny that we are so serious about our princess facts!! LOL!

[wishspirit]

Snow White- Born Royal then married in.
Cinderella- Married in
Ariel- Technically Royal under the sea, so she married royal as well. She is a royal all over!
Belle- Married in
Mulan- Married a soldier, no royal connections at all, except saving China.
Aurora- Born royal and marries in, does well there.
Jasmine- Born Royal
Pocohontas- Daughter of a head of a tribe, does that make her a princess?? Debatable, and marries an English Lord (in the second film, if I remember rightly) so doesn't do too badly.
Alice- Sometimes mentioned, no royal connections except the brief run in with Queen of Hearts.
Other honourable mentions: Nala, Megara, Minnie and Maid Marion.

That's the line up!

[doconeill]

Snow White- Born Royal
Cinderella- Married in
Ariel- Technically Royal under the sea, so she married royal as well. She is a royal all over!
Belle- Married in
Mulan- Married a soldier, no royal connections at all, except saving China.
Aurora- Born royal and marries in, does well there.
Jasmine- Born Royal
Pocohontas- Daughter of a head of a tribe, does that make her a princess?? Debatable, and marries an English Lord (in the second film, if I remember rightly) so doesn't do too badly.

That's the line up!

And don't forget Princess Leia (maybe not a Disney princess, but she did appear in a parade). Of course, I'm not sure how George Lucas handles royal titles - she was the daughter of a Senator. Queen Amidala abdicated to become a Senator...

Disney could also have "honorary" princesses, or "princess equivalents" (solves the Pocahontas issue). Mulan could have been "created" a noble for her service to her country...

[dpuck1998]

I did notice Kevin (I think) said that the Princess & the Frog will be the first hand-drawn animated movie since Lilo & Stitch. In fact, Treasure Planet (November 17, 2002) and Brother Bear (October 20, 2003) came after L&S (June 16, 2002) (I still maintain that Brother Bear was one of the best Disney movies that no one's seen). That was then followed by Home on the Range (March 21, 2004 - a very forgettable film).

Totally agree with Brother Bear, loved that movie! Very underrated IMHO

[challer]

Ironically, Brother Bear was the last movie fully produced at DHS (then Disney-MGM Studios of course) - and the previous one was Lilo & Stitch.

But one point about Treasure Planet - it DID include CGI in parts, so it was not 100% hand drawn.

Didn't Lilo & Stitch have CGI too? Along with previous movies like Aladdin, Beauty & the Beast, and even The Black Cauldron?

[DisneyKevin]

I meant the first "good" movie since Lilo & Stitch.

I forgot about Brother Bear......which I guess goes to prove your point.

[SomedayI'llBe]

And don't forget Princess Leia (maybe not a Disney princess, but she did appear in a parade). Of course, I'm not sure how George Lucas handles royal titles - she was the daughter of a Senator. Queen Amidala abdicated to become a Senator...

Disney could also have "honorary" princesses, or "princess equivalents" (solves the Pocahontas issue). Mulan could have been "created" a noble for her service to her country...

Oh no, Leia was royal. See, on Alderaan (her home planet), her father ruled. He was their Senator to the Galactic Senate as well. So yes, she was totally royal.

On the issue of Amidala- she didn't abdicate. On Naboo (her home planet), they elect their royalty- it doesn't follow blood lines. After her term was completed, she became senator and a new queen took over.

[/nerdness]

[cathie1327]

Wasn't Snow White's father the king? Thus making her stepmother the evil queen? I think Snow White and Aurora were princesses by birth, Cinderella and Belle were not, they married into royalty. Mulan is not a princess.

Funny that we are so serious about our princess facts!! LOL!

Princess stuff is serious business ;) :thumbsup2

[challer]

I meant the first "good" movie since Lilo & Stitch.

I forgot about Brother Bear......which I guess goes to prove your point.

I can see forgetting Treasure Planet & Home on the Range... but Brother Bear was actually pretty good. I really like the music.

[DisneyKevin]

Only thing I liked about Home On The Range is the k.d. lang song.

Didnt care for Brother Bear.

[challer]

Only thing I liked about Home On The Range is the k.d. lang song.

Didnt care for Brother Bear.

Two things:

1) Any good song is negated by the fact it came from a Rossane Barr Arnold voiced movie.
2) Is Lilo & Stitch considered a good movie? I question this premise.

[wishspirit]

Two things:

1) Any good song is negated by the fact it came from a Rossane Barr Arnold voiced movie.
2) Is Lilo & Stitch considered a good movie? I question this premise.

Hey! I love Lilo and Stitch!! I like seeing real sized people in movies, with characters i can relate to!

[challer]

Hey! I love Lilo and Stitch!! I like seeing real sized people in movies, with characters i can relate to!

Real sized people? Are your feet bigger than your head? They may be real sized if you are the Incredibles...

[DisneyKevin]

Are your feet bigger than your head?

Yes

Is Lilo & Stitch considered a good movie?

Yes

Any other questions?:lmao:

[dpuck1998]

Two things:

1) Any good song is negated by the fact it came from a Rossane Barr Arnold voiced movie.
2) Is Lilo & Stitch considered a good movie? I question this premise.

The first time I saw Lilo and Stitch in the theatres I thought it was awful. But it slowly grew on my and :gasp I even kinda just a little sorta like a tiny bit the attraction! :scared1: :scared1:

[DisneyKevin]

There were some things I loved about Lilo and Stitch.

Lilo is just plain funny. She makes a remark about feeding the fish peanut butter sandwiches because he can change the weather. Ok...I think it's funny.

I also think the backgrounds are gorgeous. Love the beautiful pastel scenery.

I also like the fact that Lilo and Noni are not "Princess" shaped. I dont know if it will ever help little girls have a healthier body image...but it's a good start. Not everyone is shaped like Jasmine.

[wishspirit]

Real sized people? Are your feet bigger than your head? They may be real sized if you are the Incredibles...

Hey, not all of us a Aurora sized!! I like the fact they have puppy fat, and that Lilo looks like a little girl, not a barbie doll, she doesn't look as though she has grown up too fast, like a lot of films do these days (Sorry Hanna Montana, but I'm looking at you!!)

I am a bottom heavy girl, I like the idea that you don't have to be stick thin to get to be in a movie (I know Mrs Incredible is a pear shape too, but she's a middle age woman. Nani is meant to be a twenty one year old woman, and she's real sized!)

And there is nothing wrong with big feet! I wear a women's size 9 in the US. At least I don't blow over in the wind! :lmao:

[WLfan]

Yes, Snow White was a princess from the start. Mulan is not a princess and she doesn't marry a prince. She is one of the best characters ever though! Very much like Belle, don't you think?

Emperor's New Groove is an excellent movie! It was originally supposed to be a serious movie. Can you believe that?

Brother Bear is SO good, but SO depressing that I NEVER watch it. It's like when Titanic first came out on tape. I would only watch tape 1 before they hit the iceberg. I live in denial. :lmao:

[WLfan]

There were some things I loved about Lilo and Stitch.

Lilo is just plain funny. She makes a remark about feeding the fish peanut butter sandwiches because he can change the weather. Ok...I think it's funny.

I also think the backgrounds are gorgeous. Love the beautiful pastel scenery.

I also like the fact that Lilo and Noni are not "Princess" shaped. I dont know if it will ever help little girls have a healthier body image...but it's a good start. Not everyone is shaped like Jasmine.

I LOVE LILO AND STITCH! My dog's name is Lilo. It was between that and Stitch though I think Stitch better suits her. It is so funny (I like when Stitch tears up Lilo's drawing and she says, "that's from my blue period!") and touching (Nani sings the Aloha song to Lilo). I am a fan of traditional animation and I love that the backgrounds are watercolor.

Regina and I debated this. She HATES Lilo & Stitch. Hmmmm. :sad2: