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jbuckent
02-11-2009, 02:00 PM
I was hoping I could price this out before we sail early March to get the the 10% discount. Anyone know when they typically release the next year?

jilljill
02-11-2009, 02:06 PM
I would say no earlier than Oct. this year.

WDWKevin
02-11-2009, 02:30 PM
The Captain stated Jan 2010 on my last cruise. They will include the new ship and the alternate itinerary for the Magic/Wonder.

I'm betting the first new ship will take over the 4/3 Wonder itinerary and the Wonder will either take over the 7-nighters for the Magic or go to CA. If you recall, the Magic first did 4/3's when it was launched in 98. =) Purely a guess.

jbuckent
02-11-2009, 02:34 PM
Looks like we probably won't be booking onboard then.

kimpossible
02-11-2009, 02:43 PM
Looks like we probably won't be booking onboard then.

You can always pick a random date and then have the date transferred once the 2011 reservations open up.

Andrew DEREK UK
02-11-2009, 03:41 PM
I would say no earlier than Oct. this year.
I agree with this. But maybe some not all cruises.
The Captain stated Jan 2010 on my last cruise. They will include the new ship and the alternate itinerary for the Magic/Wonder.

I'm betting the first new ship will take over the 4/3 Wonder itinerary and the Wonder will either take over the 7-nighters for the Magic or go to CA. If you recall, the Magic first did 4/3's when it was launched in 98. =) Purely a guess.

I think the Magic will go to LA ( or San Diego cruise port) and be based there, and the first new ship, ( when it arrives during 2011) will take over the 7 night East/West Caribbean route, not the WONDER route.

Some logic.

The new ships will accommodate more cruisers, therefore to maintain the same level of service at dinner, IE no table further form the galley than now, they will need at least 4 restaurants maybe 5. DCL is distinctive for rotational restaurants, and wouldn't want to go freestyle.

Therefore with 4 or 5 rotational restaurants you couldn't put the new ship on a 3/4 night Wonder route, maybe if we saw 5night/5 night/4 night Wonder type trips to be tested in 2010, then its feasible.

Remember that the new ships will have far more facilities on them and therefore imho would be wasted on 3/4 night cruises.

Keep an eye out for mentions of San Diego cruise port

Trena
02-11-2009, 06:21 PM
got off the boat Sunday. While on board we booked dummy dates for Dec 2010 because the schedule wasn't out yet for 2011. They just weren't sure when the new schedules would be released. There is no fee for changing dates, or upgrading or downgrading your category. Our deposit is refundable.

Soccermom-Cheri
02-12-2009, 12:22 PM
I agree with this. But maybe some not all cruises.


I think the Magic will go to LA ( or San Diego cruise port) and be based there, and the first new ship, ( when it arrives during 2011) will take over the 7 night East/West Caribbean route, not the WONDER route.

Some logic.

The new ships will accommodate more cruisers, therefore to maintain the same level of service at dinner, IE no table further form the galley than now, they will need at least 4 restaurants maybe 5. DCL is distinctive for rotational restaurants, and wouldn't want to go freestyle.

Therefore with 4 or 5 rotational restaurants you couldn't put the new ship on a 3/4 night Wonder route, maybe if we saw 5night/5 night/4 night Wonder type trips to be tested in 2010, then its feasible.

Remember that the new ships will have far more facilities on them and therefore imho would be wasted on 3/4 night cruises.

Keep an eye out for mentions of San Diego cruise port
unless you know something you aren't sharing, I wouldn't count on San Diego. The harbor is pretty small and can't be made bigger (unless the Navy wants to give up some of their big ship parking places). There are some ships that sail out of the two slips there.

Just my opinion after being there recently

outahere
02-12-2009, 12:30 PM
I think the Magic will go to LA ( or San Diego cruise port) and be based there, and the first new ship, ( when it arrives during 2011) will take over the 7 night East/West Caribbean route, not the WONDER route.



Hmmmm....... I thought DCL announced that the home port of all the ships would be Port Canaveral? That doesn't mean that one or two won't do special itineraries elsewhere though.

Andrew DEREK UK
02-12-2009, 01:11 PM
unless you know something you aren't sharing, I wouldn't count on San Diego. The harbor is pretty small and can't be made bigger (unless the Navy wants to give up some of their big ship parking places). There are some ships that sail out of the two slips there.

Just my opinion after being there recently

Hmmmm....... I thought DCL announced that the home port of all the ships would be Port Canaveral? That doesn't mean that one or two won't do special itineraries elsewhere though.

DCL announced the home port for the two 'new' ships will be port canavaveral for at least the first three years on arrival, it 'didnt say' the current ones would stay, but in due course there is a commitment that if the new ships went walkabout the other ones would come back with a contract to keep two ships there at all times.

West coast LA/San Diego watch this space. I think its the same as the discussion on a move to Tampa instead of PC a few years back.

Its within reach of Disneyland, look at the cruise ship schdule on
http://www.portofsandiego.org/cruise-ship-schedule.html

Not saying its exactly' here.

WDWKevin
02-12-2009, 01:14 PM
Remember that the new ships will have far more facilities on them and therefore imho would be wasted on 3/4 night cruises.



They have already confirmed that one of the new ships will take over the 3/4 night Wonder route and the other the Magic's route. This is coming from Captains on the Wonder and Magic. The only question is which route will the put the first new ship on. I still have my bets on the Wonder's route.

Andrew DEREK UK
02-12-2009, 01:20 PM
They have already confirmed that one of the new ships will take over the 3/4 night Wonder route and the other the Magic's route. This is coming from Captains on the Wonder and Magic. The only question is which route will the put the first new ship on. I still have my bets on the Wonder's route.

OK

I bow to your knowledge on that, I had heard something different as I posted above, and reasons,why they would only do the 7 nights first and not the 3/4 Wonder, ( until Ship no 2 comes) I hadn't seen your bit 'confirmed' as such.

I will still keep to my own personal view of what will come.:) as there is still time to change 'any' plans for the new ships.

surf2di4
02-12-2009, 02:51 PM
the Magic will be coming to the west coast, to do the mexican riviera, and alaska in the summer. P/C is being modified for the larger ships with a new parking structure, the only real ? is what happens to the Wonder, south pacific in the winter? and med in the summer?

karl

jbuckent
02-12-2009, 04:16 PM
How did this turn into a post about the new ships?

Anal Annie
02-12-2009, 04:37 PM
How did this turn into a post about the new ships?

Because you asked in your orig. post when the 2011 itineraries will be out. That's when the first one of the 2 new ships comes on line for booking. So it's anybody's guess and open for speculation and is relative to your question. I seriously doubt we'll have any REAL scoop until Dec '09 or Jan '10. My guess is that they'll need a good est. del. date before they can release anything for booking. Since the new ships aren't even STARTED yet they can't plan any dates for them until Meyer Werft lays their keels or whatever.

Meanwhile, you CAN re-book onboard your cruise - you just book a "dummy reservation" with the furthest date out that you can (currently Dec. 4 2010 I think). We did this last summer. The 2010 dates weren't out yet but we re-booked for Dec 2009. People do this all the time & I think they even have a specific cabin # they use so it doesn't really tie up any cabins from real customers trying to book. We recently just got the date moved to the furthest date out that they will book a dummy res. for 2010. Once we find out more about 2011 we'll decide if we want to go in 2011 or wait for 2012. Depends which route the first new ship takes. We def. want at least a 7 nighter so if the first ship takes over for the Wonder we'll wait for the 2nd one.

OurDogCisco
02-12-2009, 04:59 PM
Because you asked in your orig. post when the 2011 itineraries will be out. That's when the first one of the 2 new ships comes on line for booking. So it's anybody's guess and open for speculation and is relative to your question. I seriously doubt we'll have any REAL scoop until Dec '09 or Jan '10. My guess is that they'll need a good est. del. date before they can release anything for booking. Since the new ships aren't even STARTED yet they can't plan any dates for them until Meyer Werft lays their keels or whatever.

Meanwhile, you CAN re-book onboard your cruise - you just book a "dummy reservation" with the furthest date out that you can (currently Dec. 4 2010 I think). We did this last summer. The 2010 dates weren't out yet but we re-booked for Dec 2009. People do this all the time & I think they even have a specific cabin # they use so it doesn't really tie up any cabins from real customers trying to book. We recently just got the date moved to the furthest date out that they will book a dummy res. for 2010. Once we find out more about 2011 we'll decide if we want to go in 2011 or wait for 2012. Depends which route the first new ship takes. We def. want at least a 7 nighter so if the first ship takes over for the Wonder we'll wait for the 2nd one.

Interesting... when we were on board they said that the 10% discount and the OBC may not transfer to the new ships. This came from the booking agents onboard.

Anal Annie
02-12-2009, 05:14 PM
Interesting... when we were on board they said that the 10% discount and the OBC may not transfer to the new ships. This came from the booking agents onboard.

I don't think they've said officially either way yet and the key words here are "may not". I'm sure the CM's can't guarantee anything either way but the booking agent told us that it was currently transferable between the Magic and the Wonder so she didn't see why it wouldn't be able to transfer to the new ships. Sounded to me like she had not been told anything for sure either way at the time we re-booked. If they won't allow it to transfer to the new ships then they'll lose us as customers. Simple as that. That's why we re-booked. By that point with the way they keep raising the prices we'll need that discount to afford to go. If they won't allow it we'll simply cancel and take our business to RCL. I am pretty fed up with DCL's prices anyway. I really just wanted to see one of the new ships. But it won't kill me if I don't. Well, it may be a slower death anyway.:rolleyes1

jbuckent
02-12-2009, 06:12 PM
So if I book a Dec 2010 date and and the 2011 prices come out and are $1,000 higher I'll have to pay that extra right? Would I get the 10% off that extra? Would I get my full refund back of the price is outside what I want topay?

ruadisneyfan2
02-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Interesting... when we were on board they said that the 10% discount and the OBC may not transfer to the new ships. This came from the booking agents onboard.

My TA said the same thing. While we were on the Magic over Thanksgiving, our head waiter said the first of the new ships would be sailing by the end of 2010. I considered then I might change my Oct 2010 date to the new ship.

He added that they would be moving 30% of staff from the Magic and 30% from the Wonder to the new ship. He said service would suffer on the older ships if they took more than that.

So if I book a Dec 2010 date and and the 2011 prices come out and are $1,000 higher I'll have to pay that extra right? Would I get the 10% off that extra? Would I get my full refund back of the price is outside what I want topay?

If you rebook onboard and later change to a different date, you pay whatever the going rate is for the new date minus your 10% discount. Either way you haven't paid in full, just the deposit which would transfer along with your new date.

If you decide to cancel completely, you get your deposit back but then lose any onboard perks if you decide to call back and book again. I would never completely cancel a cruise that was booked onboard. You can always change the dates 50 times if you like. Of course, DCL is holding your deposit all the while.

cinjam
02-15-2009, 01:37 PM
We rebooked while onboard the Magic (2/7-2/14). We want to cruise again in February 2011. We booked a bogus date in 2010 (12/10/10). The future booking CM said the norm was to book us in same category as this cruise (cat 9) and to put us in the 2nd seating for dining (even though we like the first); all this to leave room for everyone booking that sail date for real.

She said to look for February 2011 offerings in the fall (she said it could be September, October or November).

She also said the current discount (10% off plus $200 onboard credit) was subject to change. When we move our ressie from the bogus date to the February date we pick, we will receive whatever the current onboard booking discount is at that time. She said, "it could be 5% and a $200 onboard credit, it could be 10% on no onboard credit, or it could be nothing at all." But, of course, we have the option of canceling our ressie & getting a full refund if the new offer (assuming it changes) is not acceptable to us. I asked if the offer would be good on the new ship. She said that that has not been decided yet.

Hope this helps.

Hudson5&Lennon3
02-15-2009, 02:31 PM
How did this turn into a post about the new ships?
Because you asked in your orig. post when the 2011 itineraries will be out.
Maybe she's wanting to book the Magic or Wonder for 2011 and NOT one of the new ships. :confused3 They will still need passengers after the new ones are done.

Soccermom-Cheri
02-15-2009, 03:03 PM
My TA said the same thing. While we were on the Magic over Thanksgiving, our head waiter said the first of the new ships would be sailing by the end of 2010. I considered then I might change my Oct 2010 date to the new ship.

He added that they would be moving 30% of staff from the Magic and 30% from the Wonder to the new ship. He said service would suffer on the older ships if they took more than that.



If you rebook onboard and later change to a different date, you pay whatever the going rate is for the new date minus your 10% discount. Either way you haven't paid in full, just the deposit which would transfer along with your new date.

If you decide to cancel completely, you get your deposit back but then lose any onboard perks if you decide to call back and book again. I would never completely cancel a cruise that was booked onboard. You can always change the dates 50 times if you like. Of course, DCL is holding your deposit all the while.
just be careful. The wait staff are notorious for "giving the inside scoop" and actually having no idea what their are talking about.

Barbossa
03-03-2009, 02:59 PM
unless you know something you aren't sharing, I wouldn't count on San Diego. The harbor is pretty small and can't be made bigger (unless the Navy wants to give up some of their big ship parking places). There are some ships that sail out of the two slips there.

Just my opinion after being there recently

San Diego's cruise ship docks are plenty big for a Magic/Wonder sized vessel. The Celebrity Millenium (91 KTons versus the Magic's 83 KTons) has moored there several times. And the harbor is plenty deep, some pretty hefty carriers are stationed at North Island (as can be seen in Soarin' Over California :)).

Andrew DEREK UK
03-03-2009, 03:05 PM
unless you know something you aren't sharing, I wouldn't count on San Diego. The harbor is pretty small and can't be made bigger (unless the Navy wants to give up some of their big ship parking places). There are some ships that sail out of the two slips there.

Just my opinion after being there recently

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2107975

Soccermom-Cheri
03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
San Diego's cruise ship docks are plenty big for a Magic/Wonder sized vessel. The Celebrity Millenium (91 KTons versus the Magic's 83 KTons) has moored there several times. And the harbor is plenty deep, some pretty hefty carriers are stationed at North Island (as can be seen in Soarin' Over California :)).
You are right. I was just assuming that the deepest water areas were for the Navy (and their big ol' ships). I am going to take a look at the cruise ship schedule to see if there is room in the schedule (which could change if a ship drops out). Do you agree that in keeping with DCL being "family friendly" , sailings would be on the weekends?

Andrew DEREK UK
03-03-2009, 03:25 PM
You are right. I was just assuming that the deepest water areas were for the Navy (and their big ol' ships). I am going to take a look at the cruise ship schedule to see if there is room in the schedule (which could change if a ship drops out). Do you agree that in keeping with DCL being "family friendly" , sailings would be on the weekends?

DCL would try to go for Saturdays.

Now remember whilst I was posting about this since early January, it could be a 'ploy' by DCL to get the best deal it can, like Tampa vs PC a few years back, they were able to get a great deal and also get out of the minimum calls at PC, hence the Baltic cruises.

But San Diego would give a little extra chance of Hawaii as the ships could make a quick call in Mexico first.