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CatManDoo
02-10-2009, 12:29 PM
Hate to sound like a killjoy, but the last thing I want to do on vacation is put on a freakin' tuxedo and dress a couple of 5 year olds in their Sunday best. I'm stressing about it though. Anyone else with me or am I just getting old??? Are there other options those nights?

kimpossible
02-10-2009, 12:32 PM
Hate to sound like a killjoy, but the last thing I want to do on vacation is put on a freakin' tuxedo and dress a couple of 5 year olds in their Sunday best. I'm stressing about it though. Anyone else with me or am I just getting old??? Are there other options those nights?

I am interested in the answer to this as well. I would love to ditch at least one of them.

BeccahRN
02-10-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm with you. We're going on our first cruise in 2 weeks (back to back 3 and 4 night cruises) so we don't have "formal night", only dress up night. But when I read about the 7 night cruises with formal night I get anxious. If we like our first two disney cruises I would love to do a 7 night one sometime but we're not dress up people and I definitely have no interest in dressing the kids to the 9s while on vacation. I would probably skip those nights and order room service or eat at somewhere else if it's open.

I'd love to know what other people have done.

mmouse37
02-10-2009, 12:37 PM
Not me....I love formal night. It is so beautiful to see everyone dressed up and you certainly do not have to wear a tux. It is a very nice experience and makes for fantastic family pics.

A simple suit is fine for a man and a cocktail dress for a woman. All kids need to wear is a pair of kahki's and a polo or button up and young girs can wear any dress.

It really is no big deal to dress up and does not take up much room.

But I understand if you choose not to. There is Topsider's open for casual dinner those nights and if you still want to eat in the dining rooms on those nights just look decent, don't wear cut off or t-shirts. There really is not much to getting presentable for formal night. It is not a stuffy night at all and surely not something to stress over.

It certainly is not required that you attend dinner on formal night.

MJ

mommasita
02-10-2009, 12:38 PM
We did on our first cruise, but realized (too late for that one :) ) that not everyone is dressed in tuxes and ballgowns. You will see a complete variety on this.

On later cruises we did not skip any nights, really enjoying each and every experience in the dining rooms. We wore clean clothing, as we always did, and did not feel out of place.

It really is not, or should not be, anything to be stressed over. Some families LOVE to dress up, and some don't. IMHO, so long as you are dressed cleanly then you will be fine. :goodvibes

CatManDoo
02-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Not me....I love formal night. It is so beautiful to see everyone dressed up and you certainly do not have to wear a tux. It is a very nice experience and makes for fantastic family pics.

A simple suit is fine for a man and a cocktail dress for a woman. All kids need to wear is a pair of kahki's and a polo or button up and young girs can wear any dress.

It really is no big deal to dress up and does not take up much room.

But I understand if you choose not to. There is Topsider's open for casual dinner those nights.

It certainly is not required that you attend dinner on formal night.

MJ


So how's that different from SEMI-formal night?

rhondamccollough@hot
02-10-2009, 12:40 PM
Lots of people skip the dining rooms all-together for times sake. They say the dinners are too long and they "miss out" on other things. You can always eat at TopSiders like the pp mentioned or order room service or get stuff (pizza, burgers, chicken strips, wraps) at the bars by the pools. I am thinking about our next cruise already and am thinking of ordering more room service to eat by the pools or on our verandah! Cruising is about doing what is fun for you!

mmouse37
02-10-2009, 12:43 PM
So how's that different from SEMI-formal night?

Honestly....not much. Hubby brings the same suit to wear both nights and just wears a different shirt.

I usually wear a pant suit/dress on both nights.

I have been on 17 DCL cruises and believe me it is not a big deal to dress nice...you do not have to wear a tux on formal night. I would say about 10 percent wear a tux...most men just wear suits.

MJ

lds0191
02-10-2009, 12:44 PM
You do not have to dress up for either night. We usually do not dress any differently for the formal nights than any other night. You will see a little bit of everything from evening gowns to capri's and tuxes to khakis. Do not stress about the dress!!!

pouncingpluto
02-10-2009, 12:46 PM
Semi-formal and formal used to be more distinct from one another, but they have kind of melded a bit, as more people choose not to go all out (tux and ballgown) on formal night.

CatManDoo
02-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Just to clarify, when I say "stressed" I mean the "it's-seven-months-until-our-cruise-and-i've-been-over-everything-else-a-million-times-and-figure-I-might-as-well-worry-about-dining-attire-now" type of stress. :surfweb:

Mickeyhugger
02-10-2009, 01:03 PM
Hate to sound like a killjoy, but the last thing I want to do on vacation is put on a freakin' tuxedo and dress a couple of 5 year olds in their Sunday best. I'm stressing about it though. Anyone else with me or am I just getting old??? Are there other options those nights?

You can always go to Topsiders and have a nice casual meal:thumbsup2

5lilfish
02-10-2009, 01:05 PM
You do not have to dress up for either night. We usually do not dress any differently for the formal nights than any other night. You will see a little bit of everything from evening gowns to capri's and tuxes to khakis. Do not stress about the dress!!!

We don't dress much differently for formal night either. About as far as we go: DH will wear a darker polo instead of a tropical polo. DS will wear a short-sleeved button down tucked in (maybe a sweater vest over it) instead of untucked with a t-shirt under. DD's will wear a nice tunic with black leggings (instead of a bright/tropical skort) and I will wear a skirt (instead of a capri outfit). That's about it.

About the only time I ever noted what someone else was wearing in the dining room was when a man came in wearing an everyday white t-shirt (almost under-shirt quality) and carpenter jeans. Also, I have taken note a couple times when a lady has worn something highly revealing and, IMHO, a little inappropriate for the setting. Even then, it just caught my eye...certainly didn't ruin my dining experience. On formal night, you will see everything from a tux to jeans, from capris/skorts to gowns.

Wear what you are comfortable wearing (within reason) and enjoy your meal/vacation!

Jess

Tent Camping Mom
02-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Semi-formal and formal used to be more distinct from one another, but they have kind of melded a bit, as more people choose not to go all out (tux and ballgown) on formal night.

:sad2: Say it ain't so! I hope the 7-night has not toned it down like the 4-night. It's been 2 years since we were on the 7-night and we enjoyed our Formal and Semi-Formal nights. Last June we did the 4-night and I was amazed that it was toned down. There's no longer a semi-formal on the Wonder, just "Dress-up" night. Fortunately, we did see a lot of people dressed in semi-formal attire, my family included.

Our next 7-night is this March and we're going all out...DH and DS will be in tuxes and I'll be in a long formal dress, semi-formal will be DH and DS in dressed-down tuxes and I'll be in a shorter formal dress.

To answer your second question....Yes, there are alternatives to eating in the formal dining rooms. Topsiders and Room Service are highly recommended for those that choose not to dress-up.

5lilfish
02-10-2009, 02:11 PM
:Yes, there are alternatives to eating in the formal dining rooms. Topsiders and Room Service are highly recommended for those that choose not to dress-up.

That is true. If you are uncomfortable going to the dining room on formal night (if you feel awkward not wearing a tux and gown), there are other places to eat. But...you really don't need to feel uncomfortable. Formal attire is "suggested." It's not required. There will be a percentage of people completely decked out. They look great....but there will also be plenty of people dressed in 'normal' dinner attire or maybe just spruced up a little bit more than on other nights. Don't feel you have to ban yourself from the main dining room if you choose not to rent a tux or wear a gown.

Jess

AlexandNessa
02-10-2009, 03:16 PM
I will tell you that my husband did not let me hear the end of it when I made hiim bring his tux on our 7-night last May. When we went to the theater and there was only one other guy in a tux, and more than I'd say 30% in shorts and polo shirts, another 50% in polo shirts and dockers, and the rest in suits ... let's just say my husband was not a happy camper. ;)

hockeyprincess
02-10-2009, 03:20 PM
For what it's worth, I wish we would have known about the photos they take on the cruises, we def. missed out on some great family pics. That being said, we did not dress to the T's so to speak, my husband wore khaki's, a dress shirt and tie for both nights, no coat even. I wore a simple dress, nothing fancy, and our kids were very simply dressed. We did not feel out of place at all! Don't stress, have fun and remember the photo op's!! We definitely will next time.

kimpossible
02-10-2009, 03:49 PM
Does everyone stay dressed for the entire evening? If we got our Palo ressies for the formal night, would we be expected to be formal their as well?

mommasita
02-10-2009, 04:00 PM
Does everyone stay dressed for the entire evening? If we got our Palo ressies for the formal night, would we be expected to be formal their as well?

Some change after dinner, but not all. Yes, if you dine at Palo, it is still formal or semi-formal there as well.

Mickeyhugger
02-10-2009, 04:11 PM
Does everyone stay dressed for the entire evening? If we got our Palo ressies for the formal night, would we be expected to be formal their as well?

You bet...On the other guy's ships the ones with the casino:thumbsup2 We love to stay dressed up on formal night hit the casino and go then dancing:cool1: makes for a great evening:thumbsup2

Rob

Justthe8ofus
02-10-2009, 04:16 PM
If you don't want to dress up than don't eat in the DR. It's really that simple.

Some of us like to dress up and our formal night shouldn't be toned down because others don't want to follow the dress of the night. :thumbsup2

kimpossible
02-10-2009, 04:21 PM
If you don't want to dress up than don't eat in the DR. It's really that simple.

Some of us like to dress up and our formal night shouldn't be toned down because others don't want to follow the dress of the night. :thumbsup2

Ouch. I believe the OP just wanted to know his options. I didn't get the impression he was trying to impose on any of the formal crowd.

mommasita
02-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Ok , just a word and a friendly warning. I hate to have to issue infractions, but in the event is becomes necessary I will.

No sarcasm is needed or appreciated on the DIS. This is a great forum, where we can express how we feel without that.

Thanks for the understanding!!!!!!!!!

frdeb1999
02-10-2009, 05:01 PM
We love dressing up. It''s honestly about the only time we are able to get all of us together and have pics and such taken. It's the 2 must not miss nights for us on the cruise. Although my DH refuses to wear a tux.....he wears a nice suit instead.

THUNDERMOUNTAINMOMMA
02-10-2009, 05:09 PM
We love dressing up. It''s honestly about the only time we are able to get all of us together and have pics and such taken. It's the 2 must not miss nights for us on the cruise. Although my DH refuses to wear a tux.....he wears a nice suit instead.

I agree. Dh and I have opportunities to attend Formals at home, but not with our Dd's. That's the fun of it for us. However just because it floats our boat, doesn't mean it floats everyones.

kimpossible
02-10-2009, 05:33 PM
Ok , just a word and a friendly warning. I hate to have to issue infractions, but in the event is becomes necessary I will.

No sarcasm is needed or appreciated on the DIS. This is a great forum, where we can express how we feel without that.

Thanks for the understanding!!!!!!!!!

That is all I meant as well.:thumbsup2

sandyam76
02-10-2009, 05:40 PM
We have been on two cruises....and have yet to go to a formal/semi-formal nights!! We have either been too busy or just didnt want to dress up!! Dont feel like you have to go!!

Disney1976
02-10-2009, 05:40 PM
:sad2: Say it ain't so! I hope the 7-night has not toned it down like the 4-night. It's been 2 years since we were on the 7-night and we enjoyed our Formal and Semi-Formal nights. Last June we did the 4-night and I was amazed that it was toned down. There's no longer a semi-formal on the Wonder, just "Dress-up" night. Fortunately, we did see a lot of people dressed in semi-formal attire, my family included.

Our next 7-night is this March and we're going all out...DH and DS will be in tuxes and I'll be in a long formal dress, semi-formal will be DH and DS in dressed-down tuxes and I'll be in a shorter formal dress.

To answer your second question....Yes, there are alternatives to eating in the formal dining rooms. Topsiders and Room Service are highly recommended for those that choose not to dress-up.

Just curious, what is a "dressed-down" tuxedo? Never heard that expression.

jrabbit
02-10-2009, 06:02 PM
The guys in my party ....:rolleyes: ... you long time dis'ers have seen me post this a hundred times ....

The Guys in my party dress for Formal AND Semi Formal nights in the following fashion.
Slacks,
Dress Shirt (collar, buttons, long sleeves),
Tie
and usually black shoes (they might be tennis shoes - but you would have to look closely) or sometimes black socks and dark sandals.:scared1:

We will wear different ties on Semi and Formal nights:hippie:

So far I our table mates have not minded (OK so they usually are similarly attired) and I REALLY don't think that I have ruined anyone elses meal.

On Formal and Semi Formal nights we will go back to our room (time permiting) and change back into our "day clothes" of shorts and polos. Then its off to the family cabarett show in Rockin Bar D and then to the Walt Disney Theater. I noticed last cruise in January that a lot of people came to the theater still dressed up (I felt a little awkward - no way, not me!!) I think that there might be a different mindset for "winter" vs "summer" cruises. Most of our cruises have been in the summer and most everyone changed into "Cruise Casual" clothes before the main show.

And since you all didn't ask, I once again submit for you reference...

THE Clothes Hierarchy
The Tuxes :snooty: look down upon the suits
The Suits look down upon the sport coats
The Sport Coats look down upon the dress shirts
The Dress Shirts look down upon the polo shirts
The Polo Shirts look down upon the tee shirts
The Tee Shirts look down upon the tank tops
The Tank Tops look down upon the shorts
The Shorts look down upon the swimming suits

and so it goes:)

mmouse37
02-10-2009, 06:10 PM
I will tell you that my husband did not let me hear the end of it when I made hiim bring his tux on our 7-night last May. When we went to the theater and there was only one other guy in a tux, and more than I'd say 30% in shorts and polo shirts, another 50% in polo shirts and dockers, and the rest in suits ... let's just say my husband was not a happy camper. ;)


The theatre is not really a good indicator of what people are wearing for formal night. For late diners the show is early and many get changed for dinner after the show. And for early diners many change after dinner to go to the show.

The atrium is good place to see what everyone is wearing...you will the majority dressed up.

MJ

BobandLee
02-10-2009, 07:02 PM
Hate to sound like a killjoy, but the last thing I want to do on vacation is put on a freakin' tuxedo and dress a couple of 5 year olds in their Sunday best. I'm stressing about it though. Anyone else with me or am I just getting old??? Are there other options those nights?

Older has nothing to do with it. Bet I am older and I still like to do dress up.
Do whatever you are comfortable with.
As I said, we do dress for formal night, but I don't think that folks should tell you to if you don't want to. I would not want them to tell me NOT to dress for formal night.

But please, no shorts and tees at dinner.:sad2:

MN_Cruz'n
02-10-2009, 07:54 PM
I totally respect everyone's freedom of choice. I also respect peoples comments about how they "dress in suits and dresses every day of the week and they are not dressing that way on vacation".

My issue is that Disney publicly displays suggested attire in many places (cruise documents, Navigators, etc.). Additionally, Disney provides options for dining other than the Main Dining Rooms. Yet, there are people who not only do not dress in the suggested attire, but wear attire that Disney specifically requests not be worn in the Main Dining rooms (shorts, t-shirts, flip-flops, etc.). It is people's disregard for others that I have issues with. I really think it lessens the experience for those "dressed as suggested" when you sit with at a table, or next to a table, with people dressed" casual".

No, I don't wear a tux on formal night, but I do wear a suit and tie. My wife dresses up, as do both my daughters. No, they don't wear formal ball gowns, but they are dressed to match the night's suggested attire.

Now, please don't flame me. I'm not looking for a fight, just expressing my thoughts/opinions. If you have not tried to dress up on formal night, give it a try! It really does make a difference in your experience. And, if you can't just get youself to that place, and really don't want to dress up, I hope you would keep those of us who do want the full experience in mind and think about your other options.

Mickeyhugger
02-10-2009, 08:04 PM
I totally respect everyone's freedom of choice. I also respect peoples comments about how they "dress in suits and dresses every day of the week and they are not dressing that way on vacation".

My issue is that Disney publicly displays suggested attire in many places (cruise documents, Navigators, etc.). Additionally, Disney provides options for dining other than the Main Dining Rooms. Yet, there are people who not only do not dress in the suggested attire, but wear attire that Disney specifically requests not be worn in the Main Dining rooms (shorts, t-shirts, flip-flops, etc.). It is people's disregard for others that I have issues with. I really think it lessens the experience for those "dressed as suggested" when you sit with at a table, or next to a table, with people dressed" casual".

No, I don't wear a tux on formal night, but I do wear a suit and tie. My wife dresses up, as do both my daughters. No, they don't wear formal ball gowns, but they are dressed to match the night's suggested attire.

Now, please don't flame me. I'm not looking for a fight, just expressing my thoughts/opinions. If you have not tried to dress up on formal night, give it a try! It really does make a difference in your experience. And, if you can't just get youself to that place, and really don't want to dress up, I hope you would keep those of us who do want the full experience in mind and think about your other options.

Very well put:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

Rob

BibbidyBobbidyBoo
02-10-2009, 08:19 PM
OP: I hear you!
If they didn't have the BEST food on those nights (hello lobster!) we'd probably skip it. I've seen a variety of dress on semi-formal and formal nights- although the majority is more dressed up all the way to extremely formal. We'd definitely be the "in between" crowd- I don't have long formal dresses but I usually just go with a black cocktail-y type dress or the fanciest one I have or can buy within the budget- DH wears shirt, tie, black dress pants/belt/black dress shoes. Kids first time dressed similarly (girls like me, boy like daddy) and 2nd time they didn't eat with us the majority of the nights including semi/formal nights.

If we could get the same foods, including lobster, outside of the dining room- we'd probably skip those nights. Do they serve lobster that night in palo too? Just curious. Maybe we can make formal night our palo night (although not sure when formal night is to be able to book that this Saturday...) and kill two birds with one stone (ie: dressing up more only that one night) LOL

arabians207
02-10-2009, 08:47 PM
We "ditched" two dinners on our cruise (first one because we hadn't gotten to go to AP due to two of the four of us getting sick on the first cruise, so we asked to be moved to AP the first night.. then I think we ate at our assigned place the 2nd, but because our "normal" waitress (who we hadn't met yet!) was sick, so we "ditched" the next night again to avoid her getting us sick, lol. (We, especially me, were REALLY paranoid about germs and everything.. it worked!)

We did go to the formal nights and stuff though. Personally, I find it kind of fun as I do not dress up very often :)

I believe Topsiders is open for dining.. I know we ate there instead of where we were assigned. It was really nice, VERY quiet. The only other people there were some of the performers who were eating dinner there. Can't say for sure they are open every night, though. And the food on the pool deck is always there :)

tvguy
02-10-2009, 08:49 PM
I totally respect everyone's freedom of choice. I also respect peoples comments about how they "dress in suits and dresses every day of the week and they are not dressing that way on vacation".

My issue is that Disney publicly displays suggested attire in many places (cruise documents, Navigators, etc.). Additionally, Disney provides options for dining other than the Main Dining Rooms. Yet, there are people who not only do not dress in the suggested attire, but wear attire that Disney specifically requests not be worn in the Main Dining rooms (shorts, t-shirts, flip-flops, etc.). It is people's disregard for others that I have issues with. I really think it lessens the experience for those "dressed as suggested" when you sit with at a table, or next to a table, with people dressed" casual".

No, I don't wear a tux on formal night, but I do wear a suit and tie. My wife dresses up, as do both my daughters. No, they don't wear formal ball gowns, but they are dressed to match the night's suggested attire.

Now, please don't flame me. I'm not looking for a fight, just expressing my thoughts/opinions. If you have not tried to dress up on formal night, give it a try! It really does make a difference in your experience. And, if you can't just get youself to that place, and really don't want to dress up, I hope you would keep those of us who do want the full experience in mind and think about your other options.

Exactly. Disney provides options for those who don't want to dress up.
I don't wear a tux (okay, I did on my first cruise), but formal dinners are part of the cruise experience. Actually, with one exception, I don't really care what you wear. A pair of Dockers is fine, nice non-faded jeans, no big deal. The one exception was the couple on our cruise who wore black sweatsuits to dinner on formal night. :scared1: :eek: :crazy2: :cold: :scared1:

DaveH
02-10-2009, 08:56 PM
I wore on the formal night we had on the 2007 DVC cruise was a button shirt, tie, nice slacks and sports jacket. I would suggest a button shirt and slacks. I do not like dressing up but did for DW and had a very nice evening. We done second dining and dressed for the show and then got a photo taken. I usually wore dockers/khaki slacks and polo shirt on the other nights.

Elphie&Me
02-11-2009, 02:42 AM
I totally respect everyone's freedom of choice. I also respect peoples comments about how they "dress in suits and dresses every day of the week and they are not dressing that way on vacation".

My issue is that Disney publicly displays suggested attire in many places (cruise documents, Navigators, etc.). Additionally, Disney provides options for dining other than the Main Dining Rooms. Yet, there are people who not only do not dress in the suggested attire, but wear attire that Disney specifically requests not be worn in the Main Dining rooms (shorts, t-shirts, flip-flops, etc.). It is people's disregard for others that I have issues with. I really think it lessens the experience for those "dressed as suggested" when you sit with at a table, or next to a table, with people dressed" casual".

No, I don't wear a tux on formal night, but I do wear a suit and tie. My wife dresses up, as do both my daughters. No, they don't wear formal ball gowns, but they are dressed to match the night's suggested attire.

Now, please don't flame me. I'm not looking for a fight, just expressing my thoughts/opinions. If you have not tried to dress up on formal night, give it a try! It really does make a difference in your experience. And, if you can't just get yourself to that place, and really don't want to dress up, I hope you would keep those of us who do want the full experience in mind and think about your other options.


"And, if you can't just get yourself to that place, and really don't want to dress up, I hope you would keep those of us who do want the full experience in mind and think about your other options".

Give me a break! Bullies who push others to conform to their plan for the evening. What the hell is wrong with you people! Everyone dress for YOUR VACATION. Not anyone Else's. And all of you stop trying to ram Topsiders down their throats. This gets so old. If the staff allows them into the dinning room, that's it. They are dressed well enough in the eye's of the DCL. End of story.

Elphie&Me
02-11-2009, 02:48 AM
If you don't want to dress up than don't eat in the DR. It's really that simple.

Some of us like to dress up and our formal night shouldn't be toned down because others don't want to follow the dress of the night. :thumbsup2


It's not really that simple. Everyone pay's to get on the ship. If a persons dress is good enough to allow them into the dinning rooms, then they have dressed well enough for the DCL and the staff / host, etc. It's really that simple.

Elphie&Me
02-11-2009, 02:58 AM
Now I remember why I don't come around here more often.

>>If you don't want to dress up than don't eat in the DR. It's really that simple.<<

What gives anyone here the right to talk to others like that? You can dress up all you want, but sadly underneath it all you will still be you.