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OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Seems Etta James is kind of miffed at Beyonce and Obama!
"You guys know your president, right? You know the one with the big ears?" she said to the crowd, unsure of what lay ahead. "Wait a minute, he ain't my president, he might be yours, he ain't my president. You know that woman he had singing for him, singing my song -- she's going to get her *** whipped."
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/etta-james-doles-out-harsh-last-words/330576
Dont mess with a Diva!
MonorailMan
02-05-2009, 09:31 AM
Seems Etta James is kind of miffed at Beyonce and Obama!
"You guys know your president, right? You know the one with the big ears?" she said to the crowd, unsure of what lay ahead. "Wait a minute, he ain't my president, he might be yours, he ain't my president. You know that woman he had singing for him, singing my song -- she's going to get her *** whipped."
http://www.popeater.com/music/article/etta-james-doles-out-harsh-last-words/330576
Dont mess with a Diva!
This could get interesting. popcorn::
OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 09:32 AM
My money is on Etta! :thumbsup2
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
02-05-2009, 10:29 AM
You know I heard that on my way to work this morning. I was laughing out loud and clapping for Miss Etta. I thought that maybe Miss Etta was ill and that was why she wasn't singing at the ball, but I don't think that the idiots planning the event even gave her a courtesy call. :sad2:
My money is on Miss Etta too! ::yes::
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 10:45 AM
The songwriting team of Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote this in 1942 for Glenn Miller and his orchestra.
Etta herself was covering it. Her version was first released in 1961.
It doesn't belong to her, and she should stop acting as if it's her proprietary right to be the only person ever to sing it.
There have been several other recordings of this song, as well. Did she protest each of those?
I'm sure the organizers paid the royalties for use of the song, and as it was the song that the Obamas danced to at every Inaugural Ball they attended, I'm guessing that it was thier choice of a song. They're only obligated to pay the royalty to the owners of the song itself, not consulte with every person who has ever recorded it.
She's just causing a fuss to get publicity.
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
02-05-2009, 10:52 AM
I hear what you are sayin', but I do think that Miss Etta was due a courtesy call. I mean, the woman is a living legend, who still can sing her *** off. I am not a big fan of Beyonce, but you can put Miss Etta in my cd player any day of the week.
wallyb
02-05-2009, 11:01 AM
Ooooooh Miss Etta please please punch Beyonce.
And while you're at it - torch the House Of Dereon.
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 11:01 AM
I hear what you are sayin', but I do think that Miss Etta was due a courtesy call. I mean, the woman is a living legend, who still can sing her *** off. I am not a big fan of Beyonce, but you can put Miss Etta in my cd player any day of the week.
Nope. They didn't "owe" her anything. Not unless they were going to make a courtesy call to Cyndi Lauper, Celine Dion, Jason Mraz, Christina Aguilera, and every other singer who has ever recorded it.
She may sing the most well known version of it, but Beyonce has recorded it most recently.
Did Etta James make a courtesy call to the Glen Miller orchestra before she recorded their song? Of course not. Her manager obtained permission for her to sing it (by paying for it) and they moved forward.
The Inaugural Committee did the same exact thing. No harm, no foul.
And a "living legend" to you is a "Who's that? I've never heard of her" to me. It's all a matter of perspective.
I<3EvilQueen
02-05-2009, 11:07 AM
Etta who???????
*kidding*
But still: Girl get over yourself.
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
02-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Ooooooh Miss Etta please please punch Beyonce.
And while you're at it - torch the House Of Dereon.
Amen! Please tell me that a gay man did not design those hideous clothes. :lmao:
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 11:10 AM
And while you're at it - torch the House Of Dereon.
Okay, now THAT is an idea I can get behind! :cheer2:
OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 11:12 AM
I cant help but think the thing that really got Miss Etta going was the fact that so many people said after the Innaguration...
"Wow, Etta must be looking down from heaven and smiling after that!"
OOPS!
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 11:14 AM
I cant help but think the thing that really got Miss Etta going was the fact that so many people said after the Innaguration...
"Wow, Etta must be looking down from heaven and smiling after that!"
OOPS!
Could be worse. They could have said she was "looking up!"
:rotfl2:
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
02-05-2009, 11:23 AM
Did Etta James make a courtesy call to the Glen Miller orchestra before she recorded their song? Of course not. Her manager obtained permission for her to sing it (by paying for it) and they moved forward.
The Inaugural Committee did the same exact thing. No harm, no foul.
And a "living legend" to you is a "Who's that? I've never heard of her" to me. It's all a matter of perspective.
I don't want this to turn into a pissing match, but I am going to say these few things and be done with it.
I have no idea if Miss Etta called Glen Miller or his people directly before she recorded the song. Most likely not, but I doubt that you know the answer for certain, especially since you are not familiar with her.
I hardly see the situation of recording the song vs being asked by your new president to sing the song at the inaugural ball as being similar situations. One is for the sake of the art and the money and the other is an honor. I fail to see why it's so unthinkable that Miss Etta's version would have been in the running, since her version is all that the majority of American's would know if you had asked them 3 years ago, who sang the song. Don't get me wrong, I love big band music, Glen Miller is my favorite of all, but I didn't even realize that he had recorded the song.
And, as to the fact that you don't know who this woman is, it's a shame. While I respect the fact that you have worldly experiences that are much more cultured than mine in many areas, sadly, you have missed out on an amazing artist. I encourage you and anyone here on this board to go download her music or at the very least, look her up for some freebie listening. She is worth the time.
wallyb
02-05-2009, 11:23 AM
Amen! Please tell me that a gay man did not design those hideous clothes. :lmao:
Her mother and her.
:crazy2:
Saxton
02-05-2009, 11:28 AM
The songwriting team of Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote this in 1942 for Glenn Miller and his orchestra.
Etta herself was covering it. Her version was first released in 1961.
It doesn't belong to her, and she should stop acting as if it's her proprietary right to be the only person ever to sing it.
There have been several other recordings of this song, as well. Did she protest each of those?
I'm sure the organizers paid the royalties for use of the song, and as it was the song that the Obamas danced to at every Inaugural Ball they attended, I'm guessing that it was thier choice of a song. They're only obligated to pay the royalty to the owners of the song itself, not consulte with every person who has ever recorded it.
She's just causing a fuss to get publicity.
You're absolutely right. There are so many versions out there and I can't say that Etta made it her 'signature' song. If I think of "New York, New York" I connect with Liza, if it's "People" I think of Babs. Etta is trying to make a fuss when there shouldn't be one. I'm sure she's ticked off that she didn't get the spotlight but she's not showing any class now.
OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 11:31 AM
For what it's worth, Etta's son said she was too sick to traved to DC on that day.
I wasn't too familiar with Etta till the Inaguration, and I admit, I did quite a bit of Youtube brousing that night.
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 11:35 AM
I don't want this to turn into a pissing match, but I am going to say these few things and be done with it.
I have no idea if Miss Etta called Glen Miller or his people directly before she recorded the song. Most likely not, but I doubt that you know the answer for certain, especially since you are not familiar with her.
I hardly see the situation of recording the song vs being asked by your new president to sing the song at the inaugural ball as being similar situations. One is for the sake of the art and the money and the other is an honor. I fail to see why it's so unthinkable that Miss Etta's version would have been in the running, since her version is all that the majority of American's would know if you had asked them 3 years ago, who sang the song. Don't get me wrong, I love big band music, Glen Miller is my favorite of all, but I didn't even realize that he had recorded the song.
And, as to the fact that you don't know who this woman is, it's a shame. While I respect the fact that you have worldly experiences that are much more cultured than mine in many areas, sadly, you have missed out on an amazing artist. I encourage you and anyone here on this board to go download her music or at the very least, look her up for some freebie listening. She is worth the time.
Okay, I'm not completely ignorant as to who Etta James is, but I certainly wouldn't call her a living legend. You think she is. That's fine. As I said, perspectives vary, and I don't mean any disrespect of your opinion.
My point was and still is that Etta was owed nothing. She hasn't been "wronged". The Inaugural Committee, assuming that they met the legal obligations of using the song, did what they had to do. Many of them, as Mike pointed out, probably thought she was dead. And perhaps they DID consider her to sing it, but decided that at the "American Block Party Ball" or whatever they called it, that she wasn't recognizable enough for the average American. In which case, they still don't owe her an apology.
It's show BUSINESS. And it comes down to the dollars and sense of things. The rights were purchased to sing a song, and a singer was asked to sing it. That's all that that has to happen. It's what happened when Etta first sang it, it's what happened now.
I can't see getting indignant on her behalf over it. She made her money off of it, now someone else is using it for their own needs. As long as the owners of the music don't mind, I don't see where she has any right to be upset.
That's my opinion, of course. Everyone gets one, and I won't say mine is better than anyone else's.
wallyb
02-05-2009, 11:40 AM
I just wanna see her clock Beyonce.
rpmdfw
02-05-2009, 11:41 AM
I just wanna see her clock Beyonce.
I'm not adverse to seeing that, either.
OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 11:43 AM
I just wanna see her clock Beyonce.
::yes::
Uncle Remus
02-05-2009, 03:49 PM
Too bad they couldn't have done a duo. :goodvibes
wallyb
02-05-2009, 04:01 PM
Too bad they couldn't have done a duo. :goodvibes
:scared: You mean girl on girl?
That's just not right!
DVCajun
02-05-2009, 05:46 PM
For what it's worth, Etta's son said she was too sick to traved to DC on that day.
You know what? Thank GOD she wasn't able to be there. Cuz the woman who said THIS:
"Wait a minute, he ain't my president, he might be yours, he ain't my president. You know that woman he had singing for him, singing my song -- she's going to get her *** whipped."
shouldn't freaking be allowed to sing at that president's inauguration.
That comment makes me so livid I could .... spit.
Beyonce was clearly honored and overwhelmed to be able to pay homage to HER PRESIDENT (if not Etta's) on that special day.
DVC~OKW~96
02-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Yep. Etta's way out of line. :( Sorry, but he's our President. She may not have voted for him, but he is the President of these United States and as such, is "our" president.
I'm sure she's angry, and that is fine. No sense in being silly about the anger though. Threatening violence is never right. Too much gay bashing gone on in my life, for me to condone even the threat of violence from one human to another, regardless of the so called provocation.
Eeesh. A little strident tonight, are we DVC~OKW~96? :sad2:
NikkiPants
02-05-2009, 09:36 PM
Haha....jeez, this is crazy stuff!
OrlandoMike
02-05-2009, 11:36 PM
Beyonce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_YHXoLwAs
Etta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDigK8LwyE
Honestly, I didn't know much about either of these women untill a few weeks ago, but I think Obama made the right decision!
Uncle Remus
02-05-2009, 11:56 PM
Beyonce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_YHXoLwAs
Etta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADDigK8LwyE
Honestly, I didn't know much about either of these women untill a few weeks ago, but I think Obama made the right decision!
As much as I love Etta's version, I agree, Beyonce was the best choice.
Etta is 20th century, Beyonce is 21st. ;)
Time to move forward.
OrlandoMike
02-06-2009, 12:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_AhWeFcOU&feature=related
I think I'm gonna rent this movie!
soulmates
02-06-2009, 09:00 AM
When I heard the sound bite this morning...my first thoughts, NO CLASS ETTA!!! :guilty:
wallyb
02-06-2009, 09:28 AM
Speaking of old broads who can sing...
I way into Bettye LaVette these days.
she sang for Obama...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYzIe7_tx9Y&feature=related
And her performance at the Kennedy Center Honors for The Who
blew everyone away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJi6maTueSc
rosiep
02-06-2009, 11:13 AM
That woman is red hot!
wallyb
02-06-2009, 11:19 AM
That woman is red hot!
I know ... so much emotion.
You really feel her singing.
rosiep
02-06-2009, 11:23 AM
I know ... so much emotion.
You really feel her singing.
I want to be that smokin when I'm her age. Have you seen her legs???
wallyb
02-06-2009, 11:33 AM
I want to be that smokin when I'm her age. Have you seen her legs???
Okay - Rosie :rolleyes: keep it in your pants.
Geesh - having a nice discussion about the arts and the "Randy Rose"
has to drag it down. :sad2:
rosiep
02-06-2009, 11:33 AM
Okay - Rosie :rolleyes: keep it in your pants.
Geesh - having a nice discussion about the arts and the "Randy Rose"
has to drag it down. :sad2:
You say that like it's a bad thing??? :confused3
OrlandoMike
02-06-2009, 11:34 AM
That woman is red hot!
Hey, she even got me a little ummmmmm
Nevermind! :sad2:
rosiep
02-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Hey, she even got me a little ummmmmm
Nevermind! :sad2:
See? Even Mike agrees with me!...How come you call me Randy Rose but you never call him " Must Have Mike"?
ChrizJen
02-06-2009, 12:10 PM
Rosie, sounds like you need some girl power in your defense.
You sure do get roped into a lot of these situations with the boys, don't you?
I can't watch the videos right now...something about being at work, and we're not allowed and all that jazz...but did someone mention nice legs?!?!?! :hyper:
Drag us down, Rosie! Drag us down!!
rosiep
02-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Rosie, sounds like you need some girl power in your defense.
You sure do get roped into a lot of these situations with the boys, don't you?
I can't watch the videos right now...something about being at work, and we're not allowed and all that jazz...but did someone mention nice legs?!?!?! :hyper:
Drag us down, Rosie! Drag us down!!
I know; but I kinda like it....ropes, boys.....women coming to my rescue...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ...Sorry....what were we talking about????
OrlandoMike
02-06-2009, 12:24 PM
Those aren't legs!
Those are gams! :thumbsup2
rosiep
02-06-2009, 12:28 PM
Those aren't legs!
Those are gams! :thumbsup2
You are indeed correct. GAMS
wallyb
02-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Rosie, sounds like you need some girl power in your defense.
You sure do get roped into a lot of these situations with the boys, don't you?
I can't watch the videos right now...something about being at work, and we're not allowed and all that jazz...but did someone mention nice legs?!?!?! :hyper:
Drag us down, Rosie! Drag us down!!
Are you kidding.
We do her bidding.
We do exactly as instructed by Rosie.
We all live in abject fear that one day she will kill us all.:guilty:
She's a tyrant I tell you!
You just don't see what goes on behind the scenes.
I've gotten 3 terse PMs, 2 threatening emails and one hurtful phone call just today.
I live in complete servitude. :sad:
ChrizJen
02-06-2009, 01:24 PM
Are you kidding.
We do her bidding.
We do exactly as instructed by Rosie.
We all live in abject fear that one day she will kill us all.:guilty:
She's a tyrant I tell you!
You just don't see what goes on behind the scenes.
I've gotten 3 terse PMs, 2 threatening emails and one hurtful phone call just today.
I live in complete servitude. :sad:
It's only abuse if you're not willing...::yes::
rosiep
02-06-2009, 01:42 PM
Are you kidding.
We do her bidding.
We do exactly as instructed by Rosie.
We all live in abject fear that one day she will kill us all.:guilty:
She's a tyrant I tell you!
You just don't see what goes on behind the scenes.
I've gotten 3 terse PMs, 2 threatening emails and one hurtful phone call just today.
I live in complete servitude. :sad:
DOWN ON YOUR KNEES BOY!!!!
wallyb
02-06-2009, 01:56 PM
DOWN ON YOUR KNEES BOY!!!!
:worship: :worship: :worship: Yes beautiful and benevolent mistress.
TuckandStuiesMom
02-06-2009, 02:59 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: Yes beautiful and benevolent mistress.
Well... this thread's taken an inneresting turn since I was last here.
rosiep
02-06-2009, 03:19 PM
:worship: :worship: :worship: Yes beautiful and benevolent mistress.
I hope you are all IMPRESSED! :snooty: Wally's my pup.
wallyb
02-06-2009, 03:53 PM
Can't talk. :sad2:
Will get... "corrected"
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/wallyb3/whipping.gif
rosiep
02-06-2009, 04:51 PM
Can't talk. :sad2:
Will get... "corrected"
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/wallyb3/whipping.gif
I'm not mean to my dogs....why.. I let them eat ice cream right off the floor!
OrlandoMike
02-06-2009, 11:19 PM
I'm not mean to my dogs....why.. I let them eat ice cream right off the floor!
Wally does floors? :confused3
ConcKahuna
02-07-2009, 06:14 AM
The songwriting team of Mack Gordon and Harry Warren wrote this in 1942 for Glenn Miller and his orchestra.
Etta herself was covering it. Her version was first released in 1961.
The song was also covered by Nat King Cole in the 40's. I was familiar with his version, and hadn't actually heard it sung by a woman until I first heard Etta's version in WALL-E.
Nat King Cole = Music legend.
Etta James = Overstuffed Diva.
Saxton
02-07-2009, 07:16 AM
Well... this thread's taken an inneresting turn since I was last here.
Don't they always?!
wallyb
02-07-2009, 09:23 AM
Wally does floors? :confused3
Hard wood only. :snooty:
OrlandoMike
02-07-2009, 11:53 PM
Don't ya love gay guys who have nothing better to do than do this kind of stuff on Youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRCV7JGJOsk&annotation_id=annotation_453629&feature=iv
OrlandoMike
02-08-2009, 12:25 AM
Just came across this one!
Miss James at her best!
You know that "broad" was on top of her game back in the day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edGDt5izxIg&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
DVC~OKW~96
02-08-2009, 06:41 AM
OMG! Call me a Luddite but I really didn't like that version! :guilty: I am so not into jazz though. :guilty:
ConcKahuna
02-08-2009, 07:34 AM
OMG! Call me a Luddite but I really didn't like that version! :guilty: I am so not into jazz though. :guilty:
I agree. It was more of a "my voice is shot, so I'll just speak the lyrics" type thing.
ConcKahuna
02-08-2009, 07:43 AM
Here is a MUCH better Etta version, from when she was young and talented..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goz07feA54Y
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
02-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Yes, I will admit, Miss Etta had a better voice when she was younger and more Pooh sized. Sometimes, it's good to be fluffy. ;)
snarlingcoyote
02-09-2009, 10:05 PM
So am I the only one who heard that and thought that maybe Etta James is in the early stages of senility? Maybe it's just colored by DMIL (who recently passed at 90) and her battle with dementia, but it just sounded so much like maybe she needs to see a geriatric specialist.
NikkiPants
02-12-2009, 11:28 AM
I hadn't heard that. But it's definitely possible...she's really old!
DearDaisyinDurham
02-14-2009, 09:26 AM
Hard wood only. :snooty:
:lmao: :rotfl2: :rotfl:
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