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BuzzLightYear3
02-01-2001, 05:13 PM
Just returned from a quick weekend away at BWV and our first stay at our home resort as members. It was great!!!

One thing I wanted to share though... I've been reading for months about how long that walk from the elevators can be and was a little worried...not so much about this trip but about future trips with the kids. Well, we were just about as far as you could get from the elevators...literally at the far end of the building, and although it is a long building, that walk wasn't more than 2 minutes!!! I suppose if I'd been carrying a 30-40 lb. kid it would have seemed longer, but I just wanted to share some actual data in case anybody else out there is worried about this. The advantage of being so far away is that we literally heard no hallway noise which would have been a plus especially around 9 p.m. when park traffic is returning but our kids are in bed.

Ha

Patricia
02-01-2001, 05:30 PM
We felt exactly the same away about the trip from the elevators. We use our stroller for our 47 lb.son so it was just a long "push" down the hallway, but it wasn't bad at all and I really felt it kept it nice and quiet at night.

drusba
02-01-2001, 06:00 PM
We have been as far away as can be and actually timed it with kids at under 3 minutes. It has the sense of being very long because the hallway is somewhat narrow and you weave down several different hallways.

Margie J
02-01-2001, 07:07 PM
Try that walk when you are in awful pain from a heel spur! That was my problem with it. The walk was torture for me, both at BW and within the parks. I also had to lug my groceries that distance too. If I was not crippled with pain, I wouldn't have minded so much.

I'm used to OKW, where I could just drive right up to my building and enter my unit just a few steps away. At BW I often had to park a distance away also.

Toxicesq
02-01-2001, 08:33 PM
Yeah, it may only be 2 minutes, but 2 minutes is actually a long time in hallway time. Get up and take a walk around your house while counting to 120 and see how long it really is. It's not a half-mile trek, but it seems really long after walking arond the parks all day and then, when you finally think you're "home," passing door after door and room after room as you trudge through the halls. It's certainly not a reason to stay away from BWV, but it's no plus, either.

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wdwnut
02-02-2001, 04:37 AM
hi: i think it just seems longer due to what drusba said. we, too, have had a unit second from the very end. a little closer was nicer for the walk, but we've never been really close to the elevators yet.

Lisa F
02-02-2001, 04:38 AM
they sound really painful! But I think that isn't the normal situation people are in...I don't hear anyone saying that the parks are terrible because they are so spread out and you have to do so much walking.

No one has to park far away or lug anything anywhere at the BW because there are very nice valets and bell services people perfectly willing to take care of your car and lug anything back to your room (we've come back from the grocery store with just a bag or two and there is always a bell services person asking if they can help us with our groceries).

I also think that the hallway at BWV is in general light, beautiful, and well themed. Maybe it is because I am an architecture person but there is so much beautiful detail to look at in the BWV hallways that I am generally at my room before I know it. We spent a couple of days at the beach club and we were about as far from the elevators as you could be and the walk in comparison was windy through dark, narrow, dingy hallways. At least you are walking down a boardwalk in the boardwalk :)

There are tradeoffs for everything... the two times we spent at OKW, yes, it was a short walk from our car to the door (never got anywhere near the front door as we tended to come home late, usually at the other end of the nearest parking lot), but if we wanted to pick something yummy up for breakfast, had to get in a car (or you were talking about a walk that makes walking the halls at BWV seem extremely short). If you want to swim, get in the car. If you want to go to epcot, get in the car. If you want to go to MGM, get in the car.

It may be a longer walk from the front entrace of the BWV to the rooms than from where you park your car at OKW but put that in context of the entire trip home. When illuminations is over, see who gets back to their room first... the people who have to walk from the world showcase to the international gateway to the BW to their room or the people who have to walk from the world showcase, through future world, wait for a tram, get to their car, drive back to OKW and then park 30 feet from their door. Similar thing for fantasmic at MGM. Wow, 2 out of 4 major parks!

I agree also that I found the walk to be no big deal and I'm glad I saw for myself rather than being scared off by all of the people who complain about it.

Lisa

"You employ stone, wood, and concrete, and with these materials you build house and palaces. That is construction. Ingenuity is at work. But suddenly, you touch my heart, you do me good. I am happy and I say 'This is beautiful.' That is architecture. Art enters in."
-Le Corbusier

[This message was edited by Lisa F on 02-02-01 at 07:44 AM.]

AnnK
02-02-2001, 06:48 AM
Now I don't need to because she already said it all!
Lisa, Well put! I couldn't agree more! ;)

Stinky_Pete
02-02-2001, 09:29 AM
Our standard view villa overlooked the tennis courts, so we were definately "down there." However, there was a nice back stairway that led to a walkway that went right to the bridge near and the self-park lot. If you think the walk is too long, I encourage you to take the stairs.

drusba
02-02-2001, 10:59 AM
Just a note that some may view the BWV elevator situation as odd. I have been in numerous large hotels in cities throughout the US where the walk from the elevators to the room was longer than anything at BWV.

Ms. WDW
02-02-2001, 11:58 AM
Try some of the larger hotels in Las Vegas. They make the halls at BWV look "short". Personally, I didn't see the big deal either with the walk from the elevators and we were not that close either.

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DisneyCrazy
02-02-2001, 01:35 PM
When we stayed at BWV in December we were overlooking the courtyard (I guess that's what you'd call it) - we were fairly close to the elevators - but I usually prefer the stairs (unless I've got 12 bags of luggage ;-) ). I just wish they would mark the doors to the stairs a little clearer - often I was roaming around looking for them.

-Paul

one_cat
09-10-2004, 11:04 PM
If you don't mind stairs there is usually a staircase much closer to those far off rooms that you can get to from outside if you are coming from that direction.

Happy Birthday Cat
09-11-2004, 08:03 AM
Those BWV Elevators aren't that far!!!

*Agree. It's the rooms that are. ;) Rich would have loved this thread.


*Please note the following for those who are easily irritated. This is a joke. We own at the BWV and it is our favorite resort.

donald...really
09-11-2004, 08:17 AM
I think it depends on your expectations. If you are expecting it to be a 3 day trek, then yes, it is a short walk. If you are expecting a hop and a skip to your room, then yes, it is a long walk.

I think, while it may not be the LONGEST hotel hallway in the world, it is a LONG WALK. We have stayed in the last room at both ends of the hallway on two different visits, and halfway down the twisting turning hallway on our first walk to our room we started laughing out loud about how absurd the experience was. We felt like we were walking forever. It certainly didn't sour our experience of the BWV, but for us it was a L O N G walk.

And yes, even though the hallways are LONG, they are very atractive!!!

crisi
09-11-2004, 08:27 AM
Is this Rich's memorial thread? Can we have one about the small rooms as well?

In addition to Lisa's points, If you have a car at OKW, the walk to the room is short. If you don't or decide to take the bus, the walk from the bus stop or from Turtle Pond can be much longer than any walk BWVs has to offer - and you'll be doing in in 100 degree heat or a thunderstorm.

las3888
09-11-2004, 10:21 AM
I agree - the long hallways end up not being a big deal at least to us. The first time we experienced them was when we were contemplating buying a BWV resale so we walked around the hotel and were pretty surprised at how long the hallway was and how they just seemed to keep going. However, after the initial surprise, it is just no big deal. Agreed that in Vegas it can be much longer. We are sold on the layout because if you are far from the elevators, you are close to the stairways to the pools and to your car...either way you end up (close to the elevators or far) is a win win situation to us.

MiaSRN62
09-11-2004, 11:04 AM
I feel any walk (via OKW roads or BWV hallways) is all very subjective and what may be a piece-of-cake for one person may be an inconvenience or burden for another. My elderly mil found the BWV hallways cumbersome. She was undergoing chemo at the time. I, personally, never found the walks from any bus stop at OKW back to the villa to be longer than 2-3 min. Granted it's outside, but heck, we walk around outside at the parks all day. Quite frankly, neither the walks at BWV (and I was about 3rd room from the end of the hallway) or at OKW bother me but I can see how each could be troublesome to some. Just my 2 cents
:D

paults
09-11-2004, 11:24 AM
DITTO


It may be a longer walk from the front entrace of the BWV to the rooms than from where you park your car at OKW but put that in context of the entire trip home. When illuminations is over, see who gets back to their room first... the people who have to walk from the world showcase to the international gateway to the BW to their room or the people who have to walk from the world showcase, through future world, wait for a tram, get to their car, drive back to OKW and then park 30 feet from their door. Similar thing for fantasmic at MGM. Wow, 2 out of 4 major parks!

timC
09-11-2004, 11:47 AM
What's the walking distance from a BWV room to the pool, compared to the walking distance from an OKW room to the main pool.... Last time we stayed at OKW we had to pack the car a drive to the main pool... what a pain in you-know-what. At the BWV, you can easily sneak down a nearby stairwell and pop out pool-side.

Also, the choking smoke of buses and cars passing by as you risk you life on the roadway (why are there no sidewalks at OKW?)trying to make it to a bus stop... or a airconditioned hallway, and a leasurely stoll across the boardwalk to a waiting boat.

Take your pick... :teeth:

pumpkinboy
09-11-2004, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by one_cat
If you don't mind stairs there is usually a staircase much closer to those far off rooms that you can get to from outside if you are coming from that direction. Those stairs are great for those of us who are "able-bodied". However DS (7) is wheelchair-bound, so the stairs aren't really an option for the parent pushing him. Still, altho 2 mins does seem like a long time winding down hallways, we have been repaid for this minor inconvenience by the great Illuminations views to be had from those Std view units far from the elevators. I do wish there were another set of elevators tho, but then I wish the same thing at AKL, and it doesn't stop us from thoroghly enjoying both.

kathleena
09-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Guess if the BWV hall is too long, some of you better not go to Epcot. That walk from the entrance to American Adventure is a killer!

Come to think of it, you may want to stay out of the parks altogether. Way too much walking......

;)

Zurg
09-11-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by drusba
...and you weave down several different hallways.

Someone been having a few at the brew pub on Boardwalk?

Bugeye
09-11-2004, 11:38 PM
The latest option announced for BWV is that, starting in January, guests will be able to rent Segways for the trip from elevator to room. Special parking spaces will be built next to the elevators for use while you're away from the hotel. This option will not be available to guests who use valet parking as you are required to get in at least one good walk per day.

Bojo
09-12-2004, 06:09 AM
Also, the choking smoke of buses and cars passing by as you risk you life on the roadway (why are there no sidewalks at OKW?)

Uhm ... there are sidewalks at OKW. Or, at least there were when I was there in June.:confused:

timC
09-12-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Bojo
Uhm ... there are sidewalks at OKW. Or, at least there were when I was there in June.:confused:

Yes... there are sidewalks, but not everywhere... at least not during our stay 2 years ago when we stayed in building 21. To get to the bus stop we had to walk on the roadway, including a walk through a circle buses use to turn around. No sidewalks...not pleasant. Maybe they've added a sidewalk since.

KEH
09-12-2004, 09:04 AM
I may be being naive here but the Boardwalk is a big resort so isn't it inevitable that some rooms will be quite some way from the elevator, lobby etc? Personally I don't mind the walk even at the end of a long day in the parks as I am usually really glad to be inside in the air conditioning.

MiaSRN62
09-12-2004, 09:46 AM
Guess if the BWV hall is too long, some of you better not go to Epcot. That walk from the entrance to American Adventure is a killer!
Same goes for you folks complaining about walking around OKW :confused:
Also.....I've never been choked by smoke in any of my many stays at OKW :confused:
At OKW you're never far from any one of the several pools either. I've never had to pack my car up to go to the pool there :confused:

chainkid
09-12-2004, 10:28 AM
I guess it would depend what unit you get at OKW but the one thing that I like better at BWV than at OKW is the ease of getting to a very attractive pool. The pool we had to walk to was a bit of a walk from our unit and it was a very plain looking poolnot nearly as nice as the one I have in my back yard. I also never got to park near my room as we come back from the parks pretty late. I like to be able to slip in and out of the pool and walk back to my room. AT OKW we had to gather up our gear and walk the length of several buildings thru the parking lot. It just depends on your location because some units are very close and some are not. Of course we often use the stairs at BWV if we are down along corridor. Each DVC resort has plusses and minuses but all are still a step above the average resort room at Disney . In fact I will probably spend more time at OKW when I retire because of the larger rooms and the fact that I will be staying for longer periods of time without entering the parks at all. AND I love Olivia's for casual dining with a real at home feel.

CapeCodFam
09-12-2004, 11:26 AM
We'd rather make the walk than to be sitting at home. :jester:

MiaSRN62
09-12-2004, 11:45 AM
I guess it would depend what unit you get at OKW but the one thing that I like better at BWV than at OKW is the ease of getting to a very attractive pool. The pool we had to walk to was a bit of a walk from our unit and it was a very plain looking poolnot nearly as nice as the one I have in my back yard. I also never got to park near my room as we come back from the parks pretty late. I like to be able to slip in and out of the pool and walk back to my room. AT OKW we had to gather up our gear and walk the length of several buildings thru the parking lot. It just depends on your location because some units are very close and some are not. Of course we often use the stairs at BWV if we are down along corridor.
I can totally see your viewpoint chainkid (though I didn't have the same experiences as you). The new slide is coming to OKW and this will make it equal to BWV's main pool to alot of people who complained about not having a pool slide there. The themeing looks like it will be beautiful.
We've never had difficulty parking near our villa and we ALWAYS stay to park's close and beyond. Even if we didn't get to park our car directly in front of our door we were never more than 2-3 doors away which added on all of 3 seconds of walk time. At OKW we can always slip in and out of one of the pools and I much prefer to be able to walk directly into my room vs prancing through a lobby or long hallway soaking wet. But that's just our preference and I can see how others would see it differently. I found the quiet pools at BWV no less plain than the quiet ones at OKW ? I'm sure some rooms at the BWV are a closer walk to the pools than other rooms---I know our room there was very far from the main pool. We had room #4131.
I really think every person has their own feelings and preferences about individual resorts and they will always lean toward their favorite---it's human nature. But like I said, whether walking the hallways at BWV or the pathways of OKW, a walk is a walk especially considering that WDW is predominately a walking type of vacation. We tour the parks all day---what's the difference :confused:

JessetheCowgirl
09-12-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Happy Birthday Cat
*Agree. It's the rooms that are. ;) Rich would have loved this thread.


*Please note the following for those who are easily irritated. This is a joke. We own at the BWV and it is our favorite resort.

::yes:: I thought of Rich as soon as I saw the title to this thread :)

ScottOKW2K
09-12-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by chainkid
I guess it would depend what unit you get at OKW but the one thing that I like better at BWV than at OKW is the ease of getting to a very attractive pool.

It does seem that people tend to forget that disney has other places to swim besides the resort pools. Just a quick walk to my van, a 2 or 3 minute drive and I'm at Typhoon Lagoon. Now, Luna Park is ok, and Stormalong Bay is quite impressive but Typhoon Lagoon beats both by a mile. Though I enjoy Disney transportation, I have found that when I go to the water parks I usually want to drive. This applies no matter what resort that I am staying at.

The reason I say this is that I see the pool issue being brought up again and again. It really seems to be a bigger deal to those that aren't 'KeyWesters than those that are. I've enjoyed both the BW and BC pools, but I really don't think about them that much. Besides, our savings in points cost, points required, and dues more than help offset the small cost of the water park AP's that we purchase.

If one wants to talk about access to restaurants, nightlife , and proximity to Epcot and MGM I will willingly grant BW/BC the obvious kudos on location.

One last item - if one wants to exit the international gateway after Illuminations, park at Beach Club. That's what I did last trip. I did it the right way - OKW parking pass in window, pulled up at BC about 7:30 pm. We stated that we wanted to see Illuminations, and were expecting to leave about 9:30 pm. The guard seemed somewhat surprised by our honesty - and then directed us to the self-parking area and wished us a good evening. If she had said no we would have most likely driven over to Epcot parking, and were prepared to do so if refused. Remember - subject to availability guests at one WDW resort are allowed to park at others.

worldshowcase
09-12-2004, 09:15 PM
It does seem that people tend to forget that disney has other places to swim besides the resort pools. Just a quick walk to my van, a 2 or 3 minute drive and I'm at Typhoon Lagoon. Now, Luna Park is ok, and Stormalong Bay is quite impressive but Typhoon Lagoon beats both by a mile. Though I enjoy Disney transportation, I have found that when I go to the water parks I usually want to drive. This applies no matter what resort that I am staying at.
Glad to see you enjoy WDW' s water parks. When we had young children we also enjoyed the WDW water parks. Now that we are empty nesters the water parks hold no interest for us but a themed main pool that is easy to walk to, does hold a big interest for us,
We must also not forget that each family is different.

Pluto4Pres
09-13-2004, 10:13 AM
I think someone need to find out why all the DISboarders get assigned to rooms that are so far from the elevators!!:mad:

Actually the walk is probably not that long, it's just that as you walk by all those doors, your subliminal mind says, "We could have been home by now" a hundred times.

crisi
09-13-2004, 11:00 AM
Scott, but that means you must have a car.

I think OKW (and SSR once the additional units are built) are "best" if you have a car. If you can drive to the pool and the restaurants (and the parks and the water parks) - than being bus dependant is no big deal. If you don't have a car - the "long" hallways at BWVs are arguably better than the hike or taking a bus to get to Olivias or the themed pool from the far units at OKW. I have been assured that OKW can be done without a car, but I think it loses some of its appeal if you are bus dependant.

BWV (and BCV and to a lesser extent VWL) are almost easier if you are not car dependant. Parking is so far away, park access to two parks from Epcot (and one from VWL) is so good, that some people leave their car parked for the entire vacation.

I don't think the LONG hallways at BWV are any longer than getting from the Villas to the themed pool or Roaring Forks at VWL. Or getting to SAB from the back of BCVs.

MiaSRN62
09-14-2004, 07:33 AM
If you don't have a car - the "long" hallways at BWVs are arguably better than the hike or taking a bus to get to Olivias or the themed pool from the far units at OKW.
I honestly don't feel the hike to Olivia's was any further than the hike we had to get to Cape May Cafe (i.e.) or Epcot when we stayed at BWV for that matter ? Also, we had a further walk to the main themed pool at BWV than we ever had to OKW's main pool from our room ? Our room at BWV was at the end of the hallway in the wing that faces the canal. Maybe the DIS board member do get the furthest rooms :confused: ;)
We bring a car to OKW but don't always use it and the bus system is fine there. I found I did no less walking at OKW than I did during my stay at BWV ?

crisi
09-14-2004, 10:50 AM
Mia,

I've never been to OKW, so perhaps you are right, but I have a hard time believing that the farthest room from the pool or lobby at BWVs is farther than unit 49 is from the Hospitality House. There are two golf holes between unit 49 and the HH - that are 383 and 390 yards - about .4 miles total - granted you don't need to walk the complete hole to get to the HH (but yardage doesn't take into effect distance between holes either), but it gives you an idea of the distance.

The longest hallway at BWV is 818 ft (272 yards): http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=487734&highlight=%2BGlobal+%2BPositioning


Here is Caskbill's thread on distances at OKW to the bus stops - but I'm not talking about bus stops - I'm talking about walking your kids to the new pool slide. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=519921&highlight=%2BGlobal+%2BPositioning.

I'm not saying this is horrible, I'm sure OKW is a lovely resort - and we are looking forward to staying there sometime. But if your kids are going to be using the new pool slide a lot - request a room near the hospitality house, have a car, or be ready for a lot of walking or waiting for buses (things we are ready for at Disney anyway - we walk a lot and take a lot of buses)- i.e. you may be more car dependant at OKW, and if thats OK with you great - if not, the long hallways at BWV may be a lesser evil than the far units at OKW or SSR. I suspect the far units from SSR will be similar. The farthest possible walk from BWV to the lobby or the themed pool is less than the farthest possible walk from OKW to the HH or themed pool. At OKW you have more options - you can take your car to the pool, or any passing bus will drop you off on the way out - at BWV the buses don't travel down the long hallways - on the other hand - those long hallways are air conditioned.

MiaSRN62
09-14-2004, 11:55 AM
Crisi ~
I most certainly appreciate the fact that Caskbill did his math---and a good job I might add ::yes::
But if you're familiar with the BWV layout http://www.mcdanieldesk.com/dvc/bwvmap.jpg (http://)
We were in that small yellow section at the bottom of "J" formation on the BWV's side, facing the canal. We were at the tip closest to the tennis walkways in room 4131 if anyone is familiar with that area. We had a hike to the pool--- through chilly air conditioned hallways/lobby in wet suits.
After looking at bdlg 49 at OKW on the map, I'll say maybe it's an additional 2-3 minute walk to the main pool (guesstimating here)? I know we walked to the main pool from bldg 43 and didn't find it bad at all. I feel the comparisons between the length of the walks between the two resorts are extremely comparable give or take a few minutes----but this is just my take on the situation after having stayed at both resorts (and liking them both I might add). Just as you mentioned requesting being close to the HH at OKW, I swore to my dh that we'd request main "pool view" next time at BWV. I think it all evens out in the end between the two resorts :D

***Just noticed the above link the BWV map isn't working. Try this : http://www.mcdanieldesk.com/dvc/bwvmap.jpg

chainkid
09-14-2004, 12:02 PM
I'm really surprised that there wasn't a short cut to the pool via a set of stairs..I have always found the pool fairly close no matter which unit I'm in as long as there is a set of stairs nearby. The other point that you made as a negative is a real plus to me...walking in chilly air conditioned corridors versus hot 98 degree heat...to each his own I guess.

Happy Birthday Cat
09-14-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by chainkid
I'm really surprised that there wasn't a short cut to the pool via a set of stairs..

If you are talking about the BWV's there are such short cuts. But as pumpkinboy points out on page 2, that only works if you are "able-bodied".

HBC

MiaSRN62
09-14-2004, 12:23 PM
The other point that you made as a negative is a real plus to me...walking in chilly air conditioned corridors versus hot 98 degree heat...to each his own I guess.
The "negative" is only referring to being in a wet bathing suit chainkid----otherwise I agree with you. The AC is normally better but it was a little too chilly after just coming out of the pool ;) My kids actually ran all the way down the hallways to the room just to stand out on the balcony and warm back up ! lol