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Minnie&Mickey
12-30-2008, 08:33 PM
About a month ago, I started a thread asking everyone's opinion on whether we should buy a 5th wheel or a Class A and you were all very helpful. So now I have another question for you. As of right now, it looks like we will probably buy a gas-powered Class A...even though my husband still needs a new truck! He loves his little pickup truck and really doesn't want a new one. So, we looked at a used Fleetwood Pace Arrow (2005) and liked it a lot, but were concerned because since it is privately owned there isn't a warranty on it. Today I found a 2008 Gulfstream Independence for about $10k more. It will be brand new, we will be purchasing it from a dealer, and it will have a warranty. I'm not sure if that makes it worth $10k more, so I would like to read some reviews on both motorhomes. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a site for reviews. Do any of you know of a good website where I can research these motorhomes?

Thanks so much for all your help!

SCCamper
12-30-2008, 08:57 PM
I would suggest starting on the RV.net msg boards. You can get just about anyhthing answered there...it's like the DIS board for RV's.

chilipyro
12-31-2008, 05:10 AM
I looked for the same last year. Unfortunately, there is no Consumer Reports for RVs, or any other web site that has a comparative review across brands and models for RVs. The best you can do is, as said above, go to an RV forum (RV.net is great for that) and both search and ask about a particular brand and/or model that you are interested in. You won't get any unbiased opinions, so it will be hard to use that information for positive input. I found the negative experiences to be more helpful - to point out the lemons anyway.

A great way to reasearch is to go to an RV show (the RV show season for 2009 is just about to begin) and look over the models that are for sale in your area. Once you have a handful that you like, go to RV.net and see if anyone has opinions on the brand or model. Dealer quality is almost as important as brand quality (IMHO), and you'll be able to get some impressions of that at an RV show too.

Shaun and Amy
12-31-2008, 05:53 AM
I would try asking people on the forums at irv2.com. There's lots of great info to be found there.

Good Luck!

Shan-man
12-31-2008, 06:05 AM
My opinion, for what it's worth (about $0.02), is that Fleetwood is an excellent product overall, and Pace Arrow is one of their premium lines. I would carefully inspect all the systems and buy with confidence. If you really want a warranty, Good Sams Club offers their Extended Service Protection for motorhomes up to 10 years old. Their prices are supposed to be pretty good and the service plan is excellent from what I've heard. Hope it helps.

Minnie&Mickey
12-31-2008, 07:33 AM
Thanks for all of the info. I'll be checking out RV.net and irv2.com today to see what I can find out. I think we are leaning toward the Pace Arrow, although by the time we make a final decision, it will probably already be sold!

Thanks for you opinion, Shan-man. I love reading your trip reports and I always find good information in your posts, so your opinion means a lot to me. Another one of my RV friends also said good things about the Pace Arrow. Although there is only $10k difference in price (and I use the term "only" very lightly...it is a lot of money!!!), I think the newer RV will cost us a lot more than that in the long run. The Pace Arrow already has a washer/dryer in it, auto-searching satellite disk, and many extras that the current owners have added over the years. Since they will not be camping any more (due to health issues) they are giving us all of the extras. We just have to make a decision SOON!!! We are going to WDW in April for my birthday trip and we currently have reservations at OKW (we are DVC members). I know that as soon as we get there, we will be wishing that we were at the Fort. We just loved it when we borrowed our friend's Class C back in October.

Thanks again for everyone's help! Y'all are the best!

clkelley
12-31-2008, 08:47 AM
Although there is only $10k difference in price (and I use the term "only" very lightly...it is a lot of money!!!), I think the newer RV will cost us a lot more than that in the long run. The Pace Arrow already has a washer/dryer in it, auto-searching satellite disk, and many extras that the current owners have added over the years. Since they will not be camping any more (due to health issues) they are giving us all of the extras. We just have to make a decision SOON!!! We are going to WDW in April for my birthday trip and we currently have reservations at OKW (we are DVC members). I know that as soon as we get there, we will be wishing that we were at the Fort. We just loved it when we borrowed our friend's Class C back in October.

Thanks again for everyone's help! Y'all are the best!

With that information, I would look at the used unit very hard!!! Make sure it is in good shape with your inspection and a mechanics inspection, then use some of the 10K to purchase the protection plan as Shan-Man suggested. I seriously looked at one of those protection plans for my little camper, but cost-wise it was not effective for me as the only two big items on mine would cost less to replace than the cost of the plan over 5 years.

LORNADUCK
12-31-2008, 09:07 AM
We have had 8 rv's and only 2 of them were new. As soon as you drive the new one off the lot, you lost money. If a used unit is in good condition you really are saving money. I wanted the Pace Arrow 2004 - 2006 37C, but when we were looking last year it was about $20,000.00 more than we could afford. We ended up with a 2003 Forest River Windsong with 8,000 miles on it. We have had some problems with it, but probably would have had the same on a new one. If you are getting a workhorse chasis have the brakes checked, we lost all 4 after we had the MH for 2 weeks, the dealer pd to replace all, we are very lucky we only had a minor accident. We do have the extended warranty with a $500 deductable, every time we needed work it has been under $500, but we wouldn't be without it. Good luck let us see pictures.

69RoadRunner
12-31-2008, 09:08 AM
Start with MHs in your price range. Then find the floorplans that you like best.

Look in the manufacturers area of irv2.com and ask questions there. Find the PDI checklists on rv.net.

You could spend 2 days going through the PDI checklists for a motorhome. Take your time.

There are great deals out there, and this time of year is a slow time, too.

Minnie&Mickey
12-31-2008, 09:53 AM
Start with MHs in your price range. Then find the floorplans that you like best.

Look in the manufacturers area of irv2.com and ask questions there. Find the PDI checklists on rv.net.

You could spend 2 days going through the PDI checklists for a motorhome. Take your time.

Well, they are both in our price range, and the floorplans are very similar it's just deciding if it is worth $10,000 more to have a brand new unit and then have to add stuff to it, or to buy the used one that already has the features we want and save a good bit of money. The only thing that I think I will like more about the new one is the TV set up in the living area. It is angled so I think it would be easier to watch than on the older unit where it is above the front window. It also has a table and four chairs instead of booth seating, which I like because I think it makes it look more open. However booth seating would give us more sleeping space if our kids (who are both grown) come along.

I will definitely check out the manufacturers section of irv2 and see what I can find. I have no idea what a PDI checklist is, but I'm sure I will figure it out when I get to the site. LOL! (I'm so clueless!)

We have decided that if we get the used MH, we will get one of my husband's friends to go up and take a look at it for us beforehand. He has owned several motorhomes over the years, so hopefully he will be able to tell if there are any big problems with it. My husband took it out for a drive, and thought that maybe it shifted gears funny, but we were on little, narrow, hilly country roads and I suspect my own car might shift the same way. The owner offered to let us take it on the expressway, but we didn't do it...we should have though. The only other thing we are concerned with is that when he brought the slides in, they were a little noisy. Since we are complete rookies to this whole RV thing, we weren't sure if that was normal or not. :confused3

Minnie&Mickey
12-31-2008, 09:58 AM
I wanted the Pace Arrow 2004 - 2006 37C, but when we were looking last year it was about $20,000.00 more than we could afford. We ended up with a 2003 Forest River Windsong with 8,000 miles on it.

This one is a 37C!!! It has a little over 12,000 miles on it. I might have to check out the Windsong too and see if I see any of them for sale around here.

Shan-man
12-31-2008, 02:50 PM
Just to follow up, for a 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37C with 12,000 miles you should be in the $71-75,000 ballpark. I know they have done some upgrades, but this is also a down market... I'd be aggressive, you are in the catbird seat! Do download the PDI checklist, it is a very comprehensive list of inspections to make before taking delivery. As for the slides, operate them fully several times and as long as there is no binding or lurching motions and they seat and seal nicely I wouldn't be too concerned about the noise. Definitely take it out for a substantial highway drive. Also, rv.net has a very good article about assessing your needs while looking for the right RV. It is a sticky in their Class A section. It will help you think about all those questions like, which is better for YOU... a booth or a table and chairs.

Finally, I agree with Lornaduck, you will take a huge depreciation hit just titling the new motorhome (probably that $10,000 difference you keep talking about!) and that is just too big of a deal for me. $10,000 will pay for a LOT of extended service protection! I'll always buy used, personally.

LarryJ
12-31-2008, 04:00 PM
About a month ago, I started a thread asking everyone's opinion on whether we should buy a 5th wheel or a Class A and you were all very helpful. So now I have another question for you. As of right now, it looks like we will probably buy a gas-powered Class A...even though my husband still needs a new truck! He loves his little pickup truck and really doesn't want a new one. So, we looked at a used Fleetwood Pace Arrow (2005) and liked it a lot, but were concerned because since it is privately owned there isn't a warranty on it. Today I found a 2008 Gulfstream Independence for about $10k more. It will be brand new, we will be purchasing it from a dealer, and it will have a warranty. I'm not sure if that makes it worth $10k more, so I would like to read some reviews on both motorhomes. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a site for reviews. Do any of you know of a good website where I can research these motorhomes?

Thanks so much for all your help!

Whatever you decide do your research on both the manufacturer and the dealer. As I understand it Fleetwood has moved almost all of their manufacturering to Mexico and there are a lot of manufacturer's closing plants and being bought by other companies. Same goes with dealers and I have read several threads where folks have bought a unit paid cash and next day dealer goes belly up and the title is in limbo. While the prices should be good now you could easily walk into a mine field in either the execution of the deal or down the road.

Not sure how to avoid some of these pitfalls, but be aware of them and do the best you can if dealing with either a dealer, a unit under warranty or one that might need unique parts only available from a manufacturer.

Larry

wrongagain
12-31-2008, 04:10 PM
I know a guy with a nice"affordable" prevost marathon coach for sale.
If you want to know more, PM me, and I will tell you all about it.

Minnie&Mickey
12-31-2008, 05:07 PM
Just to follow up, for a 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37C with 12,000 miles you should be in the $71-75,000 ballpark. I know they have done some upgrades, but this is also a down market... I'd be aggressive, you are in the catbird seat!

Oh wow, Shan-man! He is asking $85,000 for it. My husband wanted to offer him $75k but I really didn't think he would take it since all of the other 37Cs that I've have seen for sale online are asking well over $100k (of course, those are dealers and not private sales)! How were you able to determine the price? From what I can tell, he has been trying to sell it for a while now, so maybe he would be willing to take less. Does it make it worth more if it has an Ox towing bar on the back (I think that is what it was called)? I obviously need to do more research!

Larry, if we buy the used one, will we be affected by the closing of Fleetwood plants or is that really more important if we were buying new?

Tigger1966
12-31-2008, 05:18 PM
The bigest problem will be with the parts that are strictly fleetwood as most of the RV components are made by someone else just don't wreck it. No different than all the Alfa owners out there who are out of luck on a high dollar coach.

PrincessNana
12-31-2008, 06:05 PM
Oh wow, Shan-man! He is asking $85,000 for it. My husband wanted to offer him $75k but I really didn't think he would take it since all of the other 37Cs that I've have seen for sale online are asking well over $100k (of course, those are dealers and not private sales)! How were you able to determine the price? From what I can tell, he has been trying to sell it for a while now, so maybe he would be willing to take less. Does it make it worth more if it has an Ox towing bar on the back (I think that is what it was called)? I obviously need to do more research!

Larry, if we buy the used one, will we be affected by the closing of Fleetwood plants or is that really more important if we were buying new?

I'd give him the low ball offer. All he can do is say no. Don't take it personally if he does say no. But, You'll be surprised at what people will take in this economic market and if they're finished with motorhoming. You can always come back with another offer if you really want this unit. We have made some really low ball offers on things we wanted and were pleasantly surprised when our offer was accepted. When people are finished with a phase in their life, they just want out. It sounds like this unit has alot of good features. We bought new and we'll never do it again. The Ox Towing bars are great! You'll need towing brackets for your tow car. Good luck and I hope you find the unit just right for you.

Shan-man
12-31-2008, 07:25 PM
Oh wow, Shan-man! He is asking $85,000 for it. My husband wanted to offer him $75k but I really didn't think he would take it since all of the other 37Cs that I've have seen for sale online are asking well over $100k (of course, those are dealers and not private sales)! How were you able to determine the price? From what I can tell, he has been trying to sell it for a while now, so maybe he would be willing to take less. Does it make it worth more if it has an Ox towing bar on the back (I think that is what it was called)? I obviously need to do more research!

The price range I gave you comes from NADA.com, and according to them $85,000 would be a high retail price. You should never have to pay retail from a private seller. Low retail is $71-75,000, and that is what I would aim for. The Blue Ox is a great tow bar but I wouldn't expect to pay more than $500 for a used one on eBay, so it is not a major contribution to the sale price. I would also say, that the failure of dealers and manufacturers, and mfgs moving out of the US, only makes resells more attractive. And it makes buying a major name all the more important since they will be the best supported in the parts market. Keep doing research!

Minnie&Mickey
12-31-2008, 07:29 PM
Thanks everyone for all of your help! You have given us a lot to think about. Hopefully we will make a decision soon. I'll be sure to post pictures when we do.

4mickey2
01-01-2009, 10:50 AM
did you take them out for a drive? there are a lot of items out there to make them drive/handle better. but, the used one may have some of this stuff on it already.

one may handle better than the other. you may have to do some upgrades to either or both of them to get them to handle better. we brought our super c home and the first thing dh did was: koni shocks all around, front and rear: sway and track bars and a front stabilizer bar. the super c's are known for what they call "tail wagging". it feels like the back end wants to keep swinging out after a turn..

this made a world of difference in the way the super c handles and rides. this was the mh that we wanted (new or used) and we would of had to do these upgrades either way.

some mh's may handle much better or worse than others. just something to keep in mind. i know my aunt and uncle bought a class A and had to sell it because she got so sick riding in it..

i also check around on irv2.com and see what folks are discussing...

Minnie&Mickey
01-01-2009, 12:00 PM
4Mickey2 - we have taken the Pace Arrow out for a drive on some very hilly roads and my husband wasn't sure about the way it drove. We haven't taken the other one out yet, but will probably do it tomorrow. I am definitely concerned about the motion issue, since I have problems with getting car sick. Hopefully it won't be a problem.

Shan-man - is there a link to the NADA guide where I can go to look up the values of RVs?

4mickey2
01-01-2009, 01:07 PM
motion sickness kind of runs in our family (dad, bro, sis and i all get it). we were concerned about the big disney trip this past october and my sis and family took a short trip with us to do a test run. she took a pill on the way just in case. but the ride was so nice on the way home everyone was fine.

we drove the 19 + hours to disney in october and it was great.

if something doesn't seem right about the ride there are probably things that can be done to improve it. like i said, i know that ours wouldn't of rode as good without these modifications done.

one place has a saying "motorhome manufacturers make your rv livable. we help make your motorhome drivable"...

we bought our stuff from erics rv out of washington (state) and i think he bought something from roadmaster (not positive)...

69RoadRunner
01-01-2009, 01:14 PM
The best thing to prevent car sickness is to be the driver.

Second best is sit in the front where you can see the horizon.

A class A with the big windshield helps a lot. An air suspension would be nice, but much more expensive than the 2 you're looking at, unless you go with an older model.

Old Snipe
01-02-2009, 08:41 PM
If I may jump in here and offer some information:

Fleetwood has some trouble as do many other RV (and car) companies. They did NOT move everything to Mexico, but have CLOSED the Mexico factory. I believe they will survive the bad economy. Even if they went under, you still can get it fixed, most all the systems, A/C, furnace, hot water heater, jacks, slides, refer, etc are all made by other compaines and are found in other RV's as well. If you really needed a Fleetwood part, there are RV salvage compaines that can supply used parts, do a google search for them. The chassis will be either a Ford or a Workhorse, both are good chassis.

The wandering issue: Have you ever driven a large MH before? A new driver often tends to oversteer and induce a wandering feeling. Drive the other MH and see if it feels the same way. If not, check in RV.Net and Irv2.com for help, there are solutions.

The extended warranty is not really a warranty, but a service contract that covers only specific items, not everything like a new MH warranty would. Remember a new MH warranty is only for about a year anyway. Service Contracts are very expensive and are very specific in what they do and do not cover, check RV.Net/Irv2.com for more info and then decide.

New MH's have intial teething problems that the warranty will cover. A used MH will have had most of those issues already solved by the previous owner.
Will the $10k extra for the new MH be worth it for the use you'll get out of it?

I have had 4 MH's, one used (20 years old) that was made by a company that went out of business. I was able to get everything I needed to keep it running. My last 3 I bought new and had many initial teething bugs that took alot of time to get fixed. That being said, I purchased a Service Contract on my newest MH, a diesel pusher, because of the extreme costs of repairing some diesel engine problems if they should arise. The contract costs me $3/month and is a premium coverage policy. My peace of mind. ;)

Do your research, ask on the online RV forums, then get what is best for you. I'm sure you'll make the right choice and enjoy you RV greatly, especially at Fort Wilderness! The best campground anywhere! :goodvibes

Best Regards!

Shan-man
01-03-2009, 07:06 AM
Paul, first, welcome to the DIS boards! Second, I wanted to chime back in and say that I agree with most everything you said. Every manufacturer will have some "teething" issues crop up as you are breaking in a new coach... it is just too complex a beast to be flawless. But, I stand by my assertion that Fleetwood is one of the best brands, especially for a new RVer, simply because they deal in such huge volumes that the issues are more likely to have been worked out. I also agree that most parts are not an issue. The only mfg-specific parts I've had problems with are custom aluminum extrusions and rubber moldings, and a windshield, but these are rare problems I think. Finally, the Good Sam's CSP I spoke of earlier is not an extended warranty, but a mechanical breakdown insurance. It will not cover appliances, or coach-specific systems, rather it covers the chassis, which is usually the problem-prone part of a motorhome (especially once the "teething" issues are resolved). Motorhomes are parked for months and then called on to drive 12 hours at highway speeds, which is tough on engines, tires, transmissions... the chassis. CSP (or other service plans) can provide a lot of peace-of-mind, and $10,000 can cover a lot of CSP. That's all I really wanted to say.

BTW, Paul, have you met our Larry J? You two sound like birds of a feather!

Minnie&Mickey
01-03-2009, 01:29 PM
Thanks for the information, Paul and Shannon...one question though...what is teething? I really think that the used Pace Arrow is the one for me. I just wish my DH would make up his mind. I suspect that once he agrees with me on it (which I know he eventually will) the thing will be sold!

69Roadrunner- I know what you mean about looking at the horizon. I've always had to do that when I feel queasy. I also love Bonine. It keeps me from getting sick, it doesn't make be drowsy, and I can still have a drink or two when I'm taking it!:thumbsup2

Old Snipe
01-03-2009, 04:04 PM
If I may, "Teething" is sort of working the bugs out, or like a new house you have a "Punch List", items that were not quite right when built. Like a cabinet door out of adjustment or minor tweaks needed to make things perform properly.

For example, my new MH had an electric fold down couch. The motor quit after two uses and had to have a new one installed. The Sirus Radio quit and had to be replaced as well as the motor on my electric awning. Once all these items were corrected, everything has worked well over the last year and 18,000 miles.

Sort of like breaking in a new pair of shoes.

Good luck and have fun, an RV is a great way to visit Ft. Wilderness and everywhere else, too! :cool1:

Best Regards!

Old Snipe
01-03-2009, 04:13 PM
Paul, first, welcome to the DIS boards! Motorhomes are parked for months and then called on to drive 12 hours at highway speeds, which is tough on engines, tires, transmissions... the chassis. CSP (or other service plans) can provide a lot of peace-of-mind, and $10,000 can cover a lot of CSP. That's all I really wanted to say.

BTW, Paul, have you met our Larry J? You two sound like birds of a feather!

Shan-Man,

Thank you for the welcome! And I am glad to see the sound advice you have given, too. I know only too well how intimidating an RV can be for a first time buyer. I have some good tips to share based on my extensive list of mistakes I've made over the years :eek: and hope to prevent others from making those same mistakes. Many folks helped me out and I'm trying to pass on th favors. :teacher:

Don't know Larry J, sounds like he and I would enjoy each other's company (and yours) with a beer around the campfire!

One thing I would like to point out, the Good Sam CSP probably wouldn't cost Holly anywhere near $10K. I'm sure with a little research she could come up with an acceptable number from either the CSP or some other company that would satisfy her needs and give her peace of mind. :idea:

Best Regards!

LarryJ
01-03-2009, 05:31 PM
Shan-Man,

Thank you for the welcome! And I am glad to see the sound advice you have given, too. I know only too well how intimidating an RV can be for a first time buyer. I have some good tips to share based on my extensive list of mistakes I've made over the years :eek: and hope to prevent others from making those same mistakes. Many folks helped me out and I'm trying to pass on th favors. :teacher:

Don't know Larry J, sounds like he and I would enjoy each other's company (and yours) with a beer around the campfire!

Hey I'm here watching, lurking at times and reading, but don't have a lot to say on MH's which is not my expertise. As far as the fine tuning I can appreciate that. Our first trailer was a 1981 Powler bought with the plastic still on the beds in early 1982 which we just traded in on our second TT last year ... that's 25 years with the same trailer ...:scared1:

Then only reason we traded in the Prowler was it suffered bad in the big hail storm here back around 2000 and would cost over $10,000 to just reside it and that was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.

Even with our new trailer I have had to fix minor screw issues, poor caulking in my opinion and just getting it to were we like it. That is just something everyone goes thru and I don't consider it a major thing.

One thing I would like to point out, the Good Sam CSP probably wouldn't cost Holly anywhere near $10K. I'm sure with a little research she could come up with an acceptable number from either the CSP or some other company that would satisfy her needs and give her peace of mind. :idea:

Best Regards!

Larry

Old Snipe
01-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Hi LarryJ,

You and I must practically be neighbors here in NOVA. You're right, nothing like a handy screwdriver to give an occasional twist to the RV screws.

Sorry to hear about the hail damage, but hopefully you've learned to enjoy your new TT well! :love:

Best Regards!

69RoadRunner
01-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Hi LarryJ,

You and I must practically be neighbors here in NOVA. You're right, nothing like a handy screwdriver to give an occasional twist to the RV screws.

Sorry to hear about the hail damage, but hopefully you've learned to enjoy your new TT well! :love:

Best Regards!

I'm in Springfield!:dance3:

Old Snipe
01-06-2009, 04:14 PM
Wow, small world for sure. Live in Gainesville, used to work on Telegraph Road. Now working in Yorktown, yes the commute isn't fun, but I retire next year. Good thing Ft Wilderness is there for my sanity and battery recharging. Leaving next week for the Fort with my grandsons! :banana:

Best Regards!

LarryJ
01-06-2009, 05:07 PM
Wow, small world for sure. Live in Gainesville, used to work on Telegraph Road. Now working in Yorktown, yes the commute isn't fun, but I retire next year. Good thing Ft Wilderness is there for my sanity and battery recharging. Leaving next week for the Fort with my grandsons! :banana:

Best Regards!

Small, Small World ... I'm just 10 miles or less from you down on US29. I'm within a mile of the intersection of Rt28 and I-66.

If you ever need any help give me a holler. I'm retired, have lots of time, and have more tools and toys than I can keep track of ... I just don't do what I did at 30 which is now 30 years ago.

Larry

cruising spud
01-06-2009, 06:01 PM
Minnieand Mickey,

If I may chime in-when we bought our first RV we knew nothing about motorhomes. Had know idea what was a good price, the time and money needed for yearly maintenance, etc. Fortunately, we were lucky-got a great RV and did not overpay by too much. :)

So, I think that what you are doing is great. Getting to know all of the facts. My opinion (and my opinion only), don't feel in any rush to buy an RV. Right now there are tons of great prices on both new and used RV's, and if you find one you like today, you will also be able to find one you like tomorrow (not trying to be glib, there are really a lot of RV's for sale right now, especially if you are able/willing to travel a bit to look). Keep visiting sites like rv.net and continue to look at RV's. You will gradually get a feel of what works best for you. Many people even rent an RV to get an idea of what suits them best.

Best wishes in your search.

Minnie&Mickey
01-06-2009, 06:21 PM
Minnieand Mickey,

If I may chime in-when we bought our first RV we knew nothing about motorhomes. Had know idea what was a good price, the time and money needed for yearly maintenance, etc. Fortunately, we were lucky-got a great RV and did not overpay by too much. :)

So, I think that what you are doing is great. Getting to know all of the facts. My opinion (and my opinion only), don't feel in any rush to buy an RV. Right now there are tons of great prices on both new and used RV's, and if you find one you like today, you will also be able to find one you like tomorrow (not trying to be glib, there are really a lot of RV's for sale right now, especially if you are able/willing to travel a bit to look). Keep visiting sites like rv.net and continue to look at RV's. You will gradually get a feel of what works best for you. Many people even rent an RV to get an idea of what suits them best.

Best wishes in your search.

Thanks, cruising spud. We still haven't bought one yet...I think we are on about our third month of looking and researching. I don't think I ever had this much trouble making a decision before...except for maybe when we decided to join the DVC. I kept my husband waiting on that one for 6 years before I ever agreed to that purchase. At least this time we both want it, we just aren't sure what we want! LOL!

You guys on the camping board will be the first to know when we finally buy something!

Donna
01-06-2009, 07:21 PM
holly,
I am going to the pittsburgh RV show next week. let me know if there's anything i can pick up for ya.
can't wait to hear and see what you get!

Minnie&Mickey
01-07-2009, 05:29 AM
holly,
I am going to the pittsburgh RV show next week. let me know if there's anything i can pick up for ya.
can't wait to hear and see what you get!

Thanks, Donna. I just looked online and there is going to be an RV show in Atlanta on the 22-25 of this month. I'm sure we will be going to check it. This is the same RV show that we went to last fall and from what I understand, it isn't "the big one," but at least it will give us ideas. There is another one in Hampton in April that is supposed to be great, but I'm hoping that we will already have bought one by then. It is driving me crazy that we can't seem to make a decision on this, but it finally dawned on me that it's because we just haven't found the one that is "right" for us. I would love to buy that used Pace Arrow, but there is obviously something that is keeping us from doing it, so we just need to keep looking. You know you will be the absolute first person to know when we buy one...and then I'll tell everyone else on the board!!! :yay:

jugman
01-07-2009, 08:51 AM
Are you only looking for a gas MH or are you open for diesel. I say that to say that I have seen some DP for less than the Pace Arrow you talked about. Granted I didn't look at them, but I'm just saying they are some good deals out there. Ex; 2002 Winnebago Journey DL, Cummins HP330 Diesel - $68000

Minnie&Mickey
01-07-2009, 02:39 PM
Are you only looking for a gas MH or are you open for diesel. I say that to say that I have seen some DP for less than the Pace Arrow you talked about. Granted I didn't look at them, but I'm just saying they are some good deals out there. Ex; 2002 Winnebago Journey DL, Cummins HP330 Diesel - $68000

No, we are looking at diesels too. It's just that right now, the Pace Arrow is the best price that we've found for a fairly new motorhome. We also don't want to have to go too far away to see it or pick it up if we decide to buy it. It would pretty much need to be in the GA, TN, or northern Florida area. I work for the school system, so it is hard for me to just take a couple of days off to go get an RV.

Old Snipe
01-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Holly,

Good for you, taking your time. And I see you are really thinking this through carefully. It is alot of money and you certainly want to make the right choice. Too many folks buy an RV based on a whim or an emotional feeling and shortly afterwards end up trading and buying something else, a money losing propsition. :confused:

By treading carefully like you are doing, I'm sure you'll find the exact MH that will give you years of faithful service and fun times. :love:

Keep asking questions, we're all here to help!

Best Regards!

Old Snipe
01-07-2009, 07:17 PM
Small, Small World ... I'm just 10 miles or less from you down on US29. I'm within a mile of the intersection of Rt28 and I-66.

If you ever need any help give me a holler. I'm retired, have lots of time, and have more tools and toys than I can keep track of ... I just don't do what I did at 30 which is now 30 years ago.

Larry

Wow, so you're down by Trader Joes! We store our MH at Bull Run Park and we,re down Rt. 29 just off Linton Hall Road. Bought my motor home from Reines RV (the last 3 times).

Maybe we can do a hookup sometime at Bull Run Campground and trade Ft Wilderness stories?

Best Regards!

69RoadRunner
01-07-2009, 07:38 PM
How much does Bull Run charge? I store mine at Holly Acres in Woodbridge for $115.

Minnie&Mickey
01-07-2009, 07:55 PM
Holly,

Good for you, taking your time. And I see you are really thinking this through carefully. It is alot of money and you certainly want to make the right choice. Too many folks buy an RV based on a whim or an emotional feeling and shortly afterwards end up trading and buying something else, a money losing propsition. :confused:

By treading carefully like you are doing, I'm sure you'll find the exact MH that will give you years of faithful service and fun times. :love:

Keep asking questions, we're all here to help!

Best Regards!

Thanks, Paul. You made me feel better about taking so long to decide on an RV! :)

LarryJ
01-08-2009, 03:33 AM
Wow, so you're down by Trader Joes! We store our MH at Bull Run Park and we,re down Rt. 29 just off Linton Hall Road. Bought my motor home from Reines RV (the last 3 times).

Maybe we can do a hookup sometime at Bull Run Campground and trade Ft Wilderness stories?

Best Regards!

Yep about a mile or two from Trader Joes. When we moved here that was the only shopping center within 5 miles.

That would be cool since having lived here for over 24 years, we've never camped at Bull Run which is like 3 miles from our house.

Larry

Old Snipe
01-08-2009, 09:28 AM
How much does Bull Run charge? I store mine at Holly Acres in Woodbridge for $115.

They have two large storage lots. I pay $217/quarter. It's a good deal, but has a long waiting list. I'd recommend you stop by and put your name on the list. If your home is in one of the 7 counties that participate in the Regional Park system, it is about $10/month less. My county (PW) doesn't participate.

We spend alot of weekends in the campground, it is nice, but can't hold a cancle to Ft. Wilderness! :rotfl:

Best Regards!

Old Snipe
01-08-2009, 09:32 AM
Yep about a mile or two from Trader Joes. When we moved here that was the only shopping center within 5 miles.

That would be cool since having lived here for over 24 years, we've never camped at Bull Run which is like 3 miles from our house.

Larry

Well, we'll have to go to the Bull Run campground this summer and have a Ft. Wilderness Campers in Exile (FWCIE) weekend! :banana: :rotfl: :rotfl: :laughing:

Best Regards!

Old Snipe
01-08-2009, 09:36 AM
Thanks, Paul. You made me feel better about taking so long to decide on an RV! :)

Holly,

Don't let anybody rush you, it's your money and it'll be your "baby" so enjoy the search. It's not like you're buying a new pair of shoes.

One day soon, you'll be relaxing under the awning of your new motorhome and Ft. Wilderness, sipping a nice cool drink and enjoying the "Good Life"!

Best Regards!

69RoadRunner
01-08-2009, 12:52 PM
I'll look into it. Holly Acres is a little closer.

The main advantage is that Holly Acres is in PW county. I live in Fairfax.

Personal Property taxes are based on where the vehicle is "garaged". PW county doesn't charge taxes on RVs, but Fairfax County does.

When I registered the MH, I used my address. But, they ask you where it is garaged, and I put PW county.

I didn't even know about this when I got the spot at Holly Acres.

I've been to Lake Fairfax, which has a great water park for little kids and Pohick Bay. I haven't been to Bull Run yet (except for the Christmas light show).

LarryJ
01-08-2009, 05:50 PM
They have two large storage lots. I pay $217/quarter. It's a good deal, but has a long waiting list. I'd recommend you stop by and put your name on the list. If your home is in one of the 7 counties that participate in the Regional Park system, it is about $10/month less. My county (PW) doesn't participate.

We spend alot of weekends in the campground, it is nice, but can't hold a cancle to Ft. Wilderness! :rotfl:

Best Regards!

In Sept 2007 when we decided to buy a new trailer I signed up at BULL RUN for their fenced in lot and was put on the waiting list. They also have an unfenced area, but IIRC that is not available year round, but only during the camping season. This was in case I had to store my old trailer until I sold it if I bought a new one since I normally store my alongside my home. I think when I when on the list I was like 15 from the top and IIRC around Mar or April of 2008 I got a call saying I could get a spot. So yes there is a wait and it's not a short one.

My last off topic post in this thread and I apologize to the OP for taking this off track from the original topic .... SORRY

Larry

69RoadRunner
01-08-2009, 07:26 PM
My apologies for dragging this off topic, too.

Minnie&Mickey
01-08-2009, 07:34 PM
My last off topic post in this thread and I apologize to the OP for taking this off track from the original topic .... SORRY

Larry

Oh, don't worry about it. I've taken many topics off track in the past. I have actually learned something from the conversation that the two of you have been having. Now I know how much it costs to store an RV...I've always wondered about that!

dfchelbay
01-15-2009, 08:25 AM
I have the "blue book" for all RVs. Send me a message and I'll look up with NADA listed price for you. :banana: