Treehouse Villas & Bus stop

[jim martin]

Does anyone know how the buses are going to stop at the Treehouse Villas? I think the buses will be packed if it is the last stop.

[tjkraz]

Most of the current bus routes have them passing the Treehouse Villas first when coming up Disney Vacation Club Way headed to SSR. So I assume they would hit the Treehouses first.

There are only 60 treehouses. That's just a handful more rooms than a single building at SSR (of which there are currently 18.) So the traffic growth would be maybe 5% tops. And I assume (I HOPE!) that most treehouse guests will plan to have their own transportation due to the remote nature of most buildings.

In all, I think the added traffic (bodies) will be minimal and the increase in transportation time will be maybe 3-4 minutes for the side trip thru the Treehouse complex.

[mtdewhead]

Treehouse Villas will also have their own dock and share the ferry to Downtown Disney with Saratoga.

[dallastxcpa]

Unfortunately DVC has not released any information at this point so everything is pure speculation. As much as I dislike multiple bus stops, I also dislike the hotel type bus stops were you wait with a 100 of your closet friends.

[Really_Goofy_Daddy]

Sorry to sound like a disgruntled DVC member but, when they added the Grandstand to SSR the vast majority of people thought that Saratoga Springs was "too big" and that the maximum capacity made it impossible to use the theme pool or to get breakfast at the very limited seating of the Artists Palate. Even the 2 quiet pools and the 1 at Grandstand are packed to the gills during busy months.

All the write ups indicate that the occupants of the THV will use the same facilities as the rest of SSR. Well I think it is time that DVC does some expansion on the services as well as the accommodations. DVC boasts that SSR is the "largest DVC Property to date". Well they didn't add anything extra other than more rooms!

Don't get me wrong I am a proud SSR owner and we love to stay at our home resort over any other, BUT DVC indicates only that they are building a pool for the THV. How about another restaurant? When the Grandstand opened they boasted about the pool bar which I should point out was closed the entire time we were at SSR for a 20 day stay last Summer.

This is just a little perspective on the impact that 60 more units will have. I have read LOTS of threads here on SSR busses being "packed" or standing room only. We have also had to watch as a number of busses passed us by at the Springs Stop becuase they were already at capacity We have also stood on the dock while water shuttles already full of OKW visitors passed us by. Hopefully the THV get their own bus and additional water shuttle. (The water shuttles to DTD are provided for and paid for by DTD).

None of these issues have been mentioned by DVC, but all of these complaints have been listed multiple times on this board!

DVC plans on adding 60 units at 6-9 people a unit, that 540 more people staying at SSR when at capacity, at this rate we will need a fast pass for the water slide at High Rocks Pool!!!!

[ccigliano]

I agree with you 100% Really Goofy Daddy. It's great to add more rooms to a resort like SSR where Disney has the land but Disney needs to add the facilities that support those units as well. I am WLV owner but was able to book SSR in January at the 4 month mark for a week at the end of April. When we were there, Artist Palette was always packed for breakfast, the main pool was also mobbed by 10 and even when we returned from the parks at 10 PM was hopping. They need to add another counterservice restaurant as well as another "main" pool area or add on to the existing main pool now. Let's hope they come to their senses. :confused3

[tjkraz]

Adding 60 extra villas should have no impact on transportation. Disney provides bus service to much larger resorts now. Jambo House at AKL/AKV is bigger than SSR now and will be MUCH bigger once Kidani opens. In other situations multiple resorts share bus service (BWV, BWI, Dolphin , Swan, sometimes even BC/YC). And then you have the gargantuan resorts like Pop Century which are 3-4 times the size of SSR.

The size of SSR shouldn't have any bearing on transportation. If there's an issue with bus overcrowding, all Disney has to do is increase the frequency of service.

The Treehouse Villa area will have its own pool. No it won't be a full-blown "feature" pool with a slide, but it is a net gain for the resort. We're going from 828 units and 4 pools to 888 units and 5 pools. The pool is situated fairly close to The Grandstand area of the resort so it will be accessible by more than just THV guests.

Personally I have a hard time putting SSR into perspective with other resorts because in the middle of the summer ALL of the resort pools are mobbed by mid-morning. That's just a reality of supply and demand. Is SSR truly worse than other resorts? :confused3 Prior to DVC moving-in, Jambo house at AKL had 1300 cash rooms and only one pool. The Wilderness Lodge pool is smaller than SSR and serves 700 cash rooms and villas.

When it comes to building a resort amenity like a pool, usually a 90/10 rule comes into play. The goal is to make it adequate to accommodate demand at least 90% of the time. It simply doesn't make sense to add additional resources necessary to meet peak demand.

As for the restaurant situation, I think I have only eaten at AP once so I'll take people's word for the fact that the lines can get excessive. The best thing to do is to complain to DVC. That's how the Turf Club got constructed in the first place. If breakfast is particularly bad, perhaps they will open the Turf Club in the morning hours as well. I'll say this--I've never known Disney to turn its back on a dollar. If enough people tell them they are losing meal dollars because of excessive waits at AP, they are likely to respond. But if it's just a case of making people wait in line a little longer--not so much lost then.

[nuts]

Well said! Yes, SSR is the largest DVC resort, but is the second smallest overall resort! People forget that.

[DisneyFreaks]

As for the restaurant situation, I think I have only eaten at AP once so I'll take people's word for the fact that the lines can get excessive. The best thing to do is to complain to DVC. That's how the Turf Club got constructed in the first place. If breakfast is particularly bad, perhaps they will open the Turf Club in the morning hours as well. I'll say this--I've never known Disney to turn its back on a dollar. If enough people tell them they are losing meal dollars because of excessive waits at AP, they are likely to respond. But if it's just a case of making people wait in line a little longer--not so much lost then.

Opening the Turf Club for breakfast would be a great idea. SSR is our home resort and both times we have stayed there it has been over crowded at breakfast time. Some days the line was right inside the door. We had to walk around with our trays waiting for another family to vacate a table. I do hope we all follow up on your suggestion to complain to DVC and they do listen. Giving the gift shop area its own check out during crowded times would be greatly appreciated as well. And am I asking too much to get help with the bus situation there? LoL

[dcibrando]

I agree... being an owner at SSR and having stayed there multiple times, it would be nice to see better bus service and a few new additions (restaurant, etc.) to help when it is crowded.
Now that they are adding THV, I hope they consider this.

Also, will they have any good way for people to get to the main building/pool from the THV?

I think they should move the souvi shop to another location and make it bigger (since it's so small) and expand the food court area with more seating and dining options

[dallasdisneymommy]

I think they should move the souvi shop to another location and make it bigger (since it's so small) and expand the food court area with more seating and dining options

That is a fantastic idea!

[sweetinmaine]

I agree... being an owner at SSR and having stayed there multiple times, it would be nice to see better bus service and a few new additions (restaurant, etc.) to help when it is crowded.
Now that they are adding THV, I hope they consider this.

I think they should move the souvi shop to another location and make it bigger (since it's so small) and expand the food court area with more seating and dining options

I agree! An expanded food court would be great especially for those of us that stay in the Studios and don't necessarily eat in their rooms.

[dcibrando]

well then let's email disney and suggest it :)

[momhmmx2]

We stayed at the Treehouses in 1999. They were part of the OKW bus system. Don't know if they will do this again? Just an FYI

[Debbie Jean]

Anyone have any new information on bus service for the Treehouses????

[the who #3]

can anyone tell me if scooters and wheel chairs can get on the ferries to dtd? you can not get scooters and wheel chairs on the boats from the resorts to mk so i would like to know about that before i go to ssr in the next 3 months.:flower3:

[spiceycat]

really don't think TH will get its own buses. but will probably share with SSR.
they are only putting in 2 stops.

the boats too.

DD pays for the PO boats. DVC members pay for the DD boats. we found out this - when DD stop paying for the PO boats - but the DVC boats still went.

members pay for everything at the DVC resorts - especially the transportation - boats and buses.

what DVC resort is bigger (area) than SSR? - OKW is not - SSR got bigger when grandstand was opened.

also think the maintence fees for this place will be high. So although might try to stay there - really glad DVC went with SSR instead of OKW. of course my opinion no longer counts - got rid of my OKW.:rolleyes:

[Debbie Jean]

can anyone tell me if scooters and wheel chairs can get on the ferries to dtd? you can not get scooters and wheel chairs on the boats from the resorts to mk so i would like to know about that before i go to ssr in the next 3 months.:flower3:

Yes, I took my scooter on the the boat from OKW last month and we stopped at SSR. :thumbsup2 The boat is similar to the ones that POR and POFQ have, if you've ever been on one of those. I'm assuming the boats servicing THV will be the same since you pass the treehouses when going from OKW to SSR and then on to DTD

I understand the reason getting a scooter on the resort boats at MK is not an issue is because you can take the monorail.

You will love SSR! :cloud9: Have a great trip! pixiedust:

[tjkraz]

really don't think TH will get its own buses. but will probably share with SSR.
they are only putting in 2 stops.

the boats too.

I'm quite sure the buses will be shared. Doesn't make any sense to send separate buses for 60 villas. Even with SSR being the largest DVC, there are still WDW bus loops which service more guests rooms--POP has many more rooms, the BWV/BWI/Dolphin/Swan loop services more rooms, etc.

Not sure how boat service will work. Info from Disney suggests that boat transportation will be an efficient way to get from the Treehouse area to the other SSR dock. We'll see...

also think the maintence fees for this place will be high. So although might try to stay there - really glad DVC went with SSR instead of OKW. of course my opinion no longer counts - got rid of my OKW.:rolleyes:

The treehouses represent less than 7% of all SSR villas. Although the costs of maintaining 60 individual structures will certainly be higher than a single building with 60 rooms, when spread over all owners I doubt there will be much of a blip in the budget. The 2009 budget actually includes all of the treehouses yet the overall increase was still only 3% more than 2008.

[the who #3]

the monorail does not go to the wilderness lodge, therefore the boat is an important issue to me and other very or slightly disabled. sorry, i realize that we are responsible for our own ablilities and disablilities but the boat would be really nice.;)

[spiceycat]

the monorail does not go to the wilderness lodge, therefore the boat is an important issue to me and other very or slightly disabled. sorry, i realize that we are responsible for our own ablilities and disablilities but the boat would be really nice.;)

there is a bus now from Wl/vwl to the Mk. it goes directly to the mk.

before this bus would take guests to TTC (monrail)

bet you will be happy with BLT opens. You don't even need a bus to get to it - can walk - but the monrail will be fun (occasionally)

[Debbie Jean]

the monorail does not go to the wilderness lodge, therefore the boat is an important issue to me and other very or slightly disabled. sorry, i realize that we are responsible for our own ablilities and disablilities but the boat would be really nice.;)

Actually the information I gave you was what a CM told me when I asked about the boat. :) In all fairness to him, I was going from MK to the Grand Floridian, so that doubtless is why he responded as he did. Frankly, I'm so used to Disney being "differently abled" friendly, it hadn't even occured to me that the boat would not be able to accomodate my scooter! :scared1:

[kiingor]

really don't think TH will get its own buses. but will probably share with SSR.
they are only putting in 2 stops.

the boats too.

DD pays for the PO boats. DVC members pay for the DD boats. we found out this - when DD stop paying for the PO boats - but the DVC boats still went.

members pay for everything at the DVC resorts - especially the transportation - boats and buses.

what DVC resort is bigger (area) than SSR? - OKW is not - SSR got bigger when grandstand was opened.

also think the maintence fees for this place will be high. So although might try to stay there - really glad DVC went with SSR instead of OKW. of course my opinion no longer counts - got rid of my OKW.:rolleyes:

wow - 2 more stops. Total of 7 bus stops to get in and out of SSR. Not gonna be fun. :scared:

[the who #3]

having blt monorail will be really nice and i do plan to enjoy it, but the walk (which some can do and some can not) will be nice for people who walk and if it is paved or smooth enough for wheel chairs and scooters.:thumbsup2

i do realize that wl has buses that go to mk, but as i said the boat trip is a real pleasure and i still think it would be a good idea if wheel chairs and scooter riders could also have this pleasure. the boats for epcot/hollywood studios and downtown have boats that have handicap access. we would love it.;)

[tjkraz]

wow - 2 more stops. Total of 7 bus stops to get in and out of SSR. Not gonna be fun. :scared:

Two more stops is going to add...what...maybe 3-4 minutes to the loop each way? All of the buses already drive past the treehouse area entrance--soon they will just be making a detour in that area, too.

Not a huge deal, IMO.

[spiceycat]

wow - 2 more stops. Total of 7 bus stops to get in and out of SSR. Not gonna be fun. :scared:

yea but you get some different scenery!!!

[kiingor]

Two more stops is going to add...what...maybe 3-4 minutes to the loop each way? All of the buses already drive past the treehouse area entrance--soon they will just be making a detour in that area, too.

Not a huge deal, IMO.

I was there back in march, and believe me, it ain't just 3 min. Or course it's gotten better now, and hopefully, they'll have more buses running when treehouse opens. It literally took me 1 hour to get to Mk 1 night from Spring stop. But I did notice an improvement this december. It's 2-3 min. extra if there's no one getting on or off. :lmao:

[tjkraz]

I was there back in march, and believe me, it ain't just 3 min. Or course it's gotten better now, and hopefully, they'll have more buses running when treehouse opens. It literally took me 1 hour to get to Mk 1 night from Spring stop. But I did notice an improvement this december. It's 2-3 min. extra if there's no one getting on or off. :lmao:

I think you're kinda co-mingling two separate issues, though: the total distance of the bus loop and the frequency of service.

My point is that the distance isn't getting much larger. All of the theme park buses already drive down Disney Vacation Club Way and right past the entrance to the treehouse "neighborhood." Diverting down that road and making a couple of stops isn't going to add more than 3-4 minutes to the route. There are only 60 villas so even when there are people getting off or on, the stops will be brief.

As for the frequency of service--the amount of time between buses--adding the treehouses really shouldn't have any impact on that. Yes, this is another handful of rooms being added to the SSR bus loop, but it's still servicing under 1000 rooms. Pop Century alone has something like 3000 rooms. The BoardWalk / Swan / Dolphin loop services well over 1000 rooms.

If there are issues with the SSR buses not coming often enough or being overcrowded, that's a completely separate issue and should be addressed independently of whether 60 treehouse villas are part of the route or not.

[TisBit]

I think you're kinda co-mingling two separate issues, though: the total distance of the bus loop and the frequency of service.

My point is that the distance isn't getting much larger. All of the theme park buses already drive down Disney Vacation Club Way and right past the entrance to the treehouse "neighborhood." Diverting down that road and making a couple of stops isn't going to add more than 3-4 minutes to the route. There are only 60 villas so even when there are people getting off or on, the stops will be brief.

As for the frequency of service--the amount of time between buses--adding the treehouses really shouldn't have any impact on that. Yes, this is another handful of rooms being added to the SSR bus loop, but it's still servicing under 1000 rooms. Pop Century alone has something like 3000 rooms. The BoardWalk / Swan / Dolphin loop services well over 1000 rooms.

If there are issues with the SSR buses not coming often enough or being overcrowded, that's a completely separate issue and should be addressed independently of whether 60 treehouse villas are part of the route or not.

I actually tend to disagree, it takes 3 or 4 minutes at a minimum per stop, plus the 3 or 4 to drive through. And if you have a disabled guest, it about doubles the time for a stop (with a good driver, bad driver it can quadruple it).

I believe a lot of the bus problems are due to the number of stops and how long it takes for the loop to happen. Many busses are full before hitting congress park and springs is a prime location for huge bus wait times. Plus the loading/unloading screw up the bus timing, many times at springs the busses are either really far apart or close together, depending on if there are diabled guests or full busses.

I am hoping that maybe they have a plan to do two loops with THV, maybe break Congress Park off with THV and then carousel, paddocks, congress park and springs into another loop. It could work the same way with congress park being access to carriage house for thv's. It would then help reduce some of the bus issues.

[kiingor]

I actually tend to disagree, it takes 3 or 4 minutes at a minimum per stop, plus the 3 or 4 to drive through. And if you have a disabled guest, it about doubles the time for a stop (with a good driver, bad driver it can quadruple it).

I believe a lot of the bus problems are due to the number of stops and how long it takes for the loop to happen. Many busses are full before hitting congress park and springs is a prime location for huge bus wait times. Plus the loading/unloading screw up the bus timing, many times at springs the busses are either really far apart or close together, depending on if there are diabled guests or full busses.

I am hoping that maybe they have a plan to do two loops with THV, maybe break Congress Park off with THV and then carousel, paddocks, congress park and springs into another loop. It could work the same way with congress park being access to carriage house for thv's. It would then help reduce some of the bus issues.

Exactly. I did not mention the fact that it took me an hour or more bus ride during my visit was that tthere were 2 disabled guests stops ( different stops) that had to be made. The ride from granstand to congress took literally 1/2 hour.
Don't get me wrong, I love the SSR and it's a beautiful resort unlike hotels, very relaxing. But during my 2 recent vacation at SSR, I've average over 3 hours a day just on waiting and riding the bus between SSR and theme parks- (my 3 yr old needs his naps). Imo, it's too much time spent for buses. THis is one of the reason i'm looking to exchange for BLT. :thumbsup2

[tjkraz]

I actually tend to disagree, it takes 3 or 4 minutes at a minimum per stop, plus the 3 or 4 to drive through.

For a normal stop I'd say 2-3 minutes depending upon the number of guests waiting to board. But each current stop services 150-200 villas. Each treehouse stop will service 30 villas. These are going to be practically drive-thru bus stops. There will rarely be more than 1 or 2 families waiting to board any given bus. And on the drop-offs, drivers will either ask if anyone on board will be departing at a THV stop, or just pause briefly to see if anyone gets up to leave.

Bottom line is Disney isn't going to run separate loops for 60 villas and I don't see them splitting up SSR either. I don't see the THV detour adding more than a couple of minutes to any given bus trip. JMHO.

[Sammie]

Don't worry by the time the Treehouse guests hike to the main building, breakfast will be over.;) Sorry could not resist, but I know how so many complained about the location of Carousel being soooo far away, it is nothing compared to the Treehouses.

[Davey48]

For a normal stop I'd say 2-3 minutes depending upon the number of guests waiting to board. But each current stop services 150-200 villas. Each treehouse stop will service 30 villas. These are going to be practically drive-thru bus stops. There will rarely be more than 1 or 2 families waiting to board any given bus. And on the drop-offs, drivers will either ask if anyone on board will be departing at a THV stop, or just pause briefly to see if anyone gets up to leave.

Bottom line is Disney isn't going to run separate loops for 60 villas and I don't see them splitting up SSR either. I don't see the THV detour adding more than a couple of minutes to any given bus trip. JMHO.

I have a simple solution. Rent a vehicle ! The bus transportation works out OK during the slower times but if you travel to Disney in the busy season having your own transportation is a must do.

[Cee]

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember that there was an entrace to the THs from the main road(between OKW and the main SSR entrance). If this is the case, the busses could actually enter there and hit the THVs FIRST. Wouldn't THAT be an awesome thing?! :thumbsup2

[Moparlar]

I have a simple solution. Rent a vehicle ! The bus transportation works out OK during the slower times but if you travel to Disney in the busy season having your own transportation is a must do.

That's why we always rent a car. Then I have the choice to do either

Larry

[Desnik]

Does anyone know, or think they will have golf cart rentals available for THV guests? I think it would be great. I know we would love to do that to get around the resort when staying at THV. We don't like to rent a car and depend on Disney transportation on our trips.

[tjkraz]

I have a simple solution. Rent a vehicle ! The bus transportation works out OK during the slower times but if you travel to Disney in the busy season having your own transportation is a must do.

I agree! When the inevitable "it was such a looooooooooooong walk to our treehouse!!!" threads inevitably appear, I'm not going to have a whole lot of sympathy. :rotfl:

Does anyone know, or think they will have golf cart rentals available for THV guests? I think it would be great. I know we would love to do that to get around the resort when staying at THV. We don't like to rent a car and depend on Disney transportation on our trips.

No. No plans for golf cart rentals.

I don't know how things were handled in the old Disney Institute days when they did offer rentals, but I think there is just too much foot & bus traffic at the resort now to add golf carts to the public sidewalks and roads. There may be some roadways / paths were were not built with cart traffic in mind. Could really damage the landscaping with reckless guests veering off the paths to avoid those on foot. And cart parking would be an issue, too.

[kiingor]

That's why we always rent a car. Then I have the choice to do either

Larry

yup, i always drive to WDW- If i don't feel like walking, we usually just take our car to DTD - takes 5-10 min. compare to our last bus ride (took 1/2 hr ).

[TisBit]

For a normal stop I'd say 2-3 minutes depending upon the number of guests waiting to board. But each current stop services 150-200 villas. Each treehouse stop will service 30 villas. These are going to be practically drive-thru bus stops. There will rarely be more than 1 or 2 families waiting to board any given bus. And on the drop-offs, drivers will either ask if anyone on board will be departing at a THV stop, or just pause briefly to see if anyone gets up to leave.

Bottom line is Disney isn't going to run separate loops for 60 villas and I don't see them splitting up SSR either. I don't see the THV detour adding more than a couple of minutes to any given bus trip. JMHO.

Yes, but the point is a stop is a stop, regardless if it is 2 guests or not. Plus, my history with Disney Bus Transportation, they will not skip a stop just because someone is not getting off, they will still go and stop and wait a minute or two.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that THV will create a major problem, but it will be two additional stops in a resort with what some could argue is too many stops to begin with.

As far as SSR busses are concerned, I do think they need to think outside of the box. During the non-peak times there isn't much of an issue, but that morning rush and evening rush can cause quite a problem. Maybe seperate loops will work to SSR's advantage, or maybe they will do something else. While they have worked well to alleviate many of the complaints, my trip in Nov at Grandstand had a bus exactly every 15 minutes, but I would hear the people from Congress Park and Springs complaining of longer waits, which is a result of traffic in SSR, long boarding times and full busses.

[flatzkids]

We are new DVC members (just closed yesterday). I'm not going to trivialize others feelings. I just want to say that I am looking forward to the bus service at the DVC resorts. After waiting in incredible lines to and from the All Star resorts for more than 45 minutes, I will not complain. Just happy to be here.

[jns]

I agree! An expanded food court would be great especially for those of us that stay in the Studios and don't necessarily eat in their rooms.
Think they need a foodcourt like there is at the Allstars

Don't worry by the time the Treehouse guests hike to the main building, breakfast will be over.;) Sorry could not resist, but I know how so many complained about the location of Carousel being soooo far away, it is nothing compared to the Treehouses.
I was thinking ths too
when we stayed at the Carousel only used the bus once and it took us over an hour to get to MK :scared:
we even ended up taken the car to the main pool and the food court
not out of lazest but because we wanted to get there quickly and not have to drag the kids on a 15 minute walk
Whole time would have been a nightmare with out the car
this is one of the reason that has put us off staying at the THV

[buzz5985]

I agree! When the inevitable "it was such a looooooooooooong walk to our treehouse!!!" threads inevitably appear, I'm not going to have a whole lot of sympathy. :rotfl:



No. No plans for golf cart rentals.

I don't know how things were handled in the old Disney Institute days when they did offer rentals, but I think there is just too much foot & bus traffic at the resort now to add golf carts to the public sidewalks and roads. There may be some roadways / paths were were not built with cart traffic in mind. Could really damage the landscaping with reckless guests veering off the paths to avoid those on foot. And cart parking would be an issue, too.

The golf carts were the best part of the old Treehouses. Especially if you were on the Gold Key Plan and all the boats/carts were included. You plugged the cart into the treehouse to charge the battery. When you went to a restaraunt there were plugs there to plug the golf cart in. You used the golf cart paths, or drove on the side of the road. You were basiclly cutting through the golf course. It was a golfing community.

Janis

[mark&sue]

We make sure we stay at Congress Park when we go to SSR and always walk to DTD (you can then get a bus to the resorts if wanted).

Will we be able to walk to DTD from the treehouses?


susan

[cdmickey]

If they add the Tree Houses to the SSR route I sure hope they add some extra buses. We were there in January (at the Springs) and I don't know how many times buses just passed our stop (in the mornings) because the buses were already full from earlier pickups. We had at least two one-hour waits in the morning; that's just unacceptable IMO.

[kiingor]

If they add the Tree Houses to the SSR route I sure hope they add some extra buses. We were there in January (at the Springs) and I don't know how many times buses just passed our stop (in the mornings) because the buses were already full from earlier pickups. We had at least two one-hour waits in the morning; that's just unacceptable IMO.

:sad2: wow... and here i thought they kinda fix this problem a little between my 2 vacation past year.. I know exactly how you feel.

[the who #3]

wow, thats a long wait for buses. no wonder i do not really want to stay there. they really should put more buses on that route. that would provide a few more jobs.:drive:


do you think thats the reason so many people want to sell their ssr pts.?:sad1:

[kiingor]

wow, thats a long wait for buses. no wonder i do not really want to stay there. they really should put more buses on that route. that would provide a few more jobs.:drive:


do you think thats the reason so many people want to sell their ssr pts.?:sad1:

thats #1 reason i am

[Doingitagain]

I haven't seen this on the thread yet...have you seen people who park at DTD and walk to SSR to use the bus and save parking fees at the parks?

[TDC Nala]

I have a simple solution. Rent a vehicle ! The bus transportation works out OK during the slower times but if you travel to Disney in the busy season having your own transportation is a must do.

This doesn't work when you want some wine with your dinner - no driving after that - or back when PI was open - and Raglan Road is still open. (If I'm not going to use the car I don't see the point in renting one.)

Seven bus stops is a lot - only CBR has seven stops right now. It's going to be necessary to add lots of time for the bus trip if one has someplace one needs to be at a certain time.

[kiingor]

I haven't seen this on the thread yet...have you seen people who park at DTD and walk to SSR to use the bus and save parking fees at the parks?

yes i have and i've also seen many non resort guest from MK to our resort (SSR) and take the bus to DTD.

[tjkraz]

wow, thats a long wait for buses. no wonder i do not really want to stay there. they really should put more buses on that route. that would provide a few more jobs.:drive:

do you think thats the reason so many people want to sell their ssr pts.?:sad1:

I hope not. Things like the quality of bus service, housekeeping, bell services, etc. will not only vary from one visit to another but from one HOUR to another. I've heard glowing reports of SSR buses and not-so-great reports.

I've also had one personal experience where it took me 75 minutes to get from the BoardWalk to the Magic Kingdom via bus. That's worse than any SSR experience. Another time it took nearly 90 minutes to get from BWV to Typhoon Lagoon with stops at the Dolphin, Swan and two a Downtown Disney before arriving at my destination. Does that mean that SSR buses are better than BWV buses? :confused3

SSR will certainly have one of the longer bus loops but adding the THV does not add much to the total trip time, IMO. I don't see the buses pausing at the two THV stops for 3-4 minutes each. Yes, they may do that at other stops but I can't think of any other bus stops in all of Walt Disney World which service just 30 guest rooms.

Full buses driving past stops without picking up more guests is a completely separate issue. That problem can be easily solved by increasing the frequency of buses dispatched to the resort. Pop Century has nearly 3000 rooms--that's about 3 times the size of SSR. But I don't hear guests complaining that it takes 3x as long to reach the parks from POP.

In the end, adding more buses to the SSR loop and also adding the THV to the route is a much better solution for everyone than running a separate loop for the THV.