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Tuffcookie
05-08-2002, 11:22 AM
for Disney to charge extra when you request to stay in the Calypso bldgs, closest buildings to the food courts/main lobby, at the All Star Music? I went last year and didn't pay an extra charge and now I hear they've started charging.

TC:cool:

Luv2Roam
05-08-2002, 11:34 AM
I suppose since they don't have *views* they justify this.
When we were at ASMo, we stayed in the Woody building. If it was closer than the Fantasia section, it couldn't have been by much. Not enough I doubt anyone would notice.
Just MHO, since they do this at the All Stars, they should give some other minor perk along with it. I don't see that the extra cost is justified. But that just me.

puffkin
05-08-2002, 11:40 AM
I also don't see the point, at least at ASMo. In my opinion, the Toy Story and Dalmatian buildings are just as close and you don't have to deal with the noise from the pool. I don't think I would pay the extra $$.

NancyIL
05-08-2002, 11:42 AM
They used to charge more for all the buildings if you had a "landscape" view rather than a parking lot view. Whether or not it's "fair" isn't the point. If people are willing to pay more for the convenience of the Calypso buildings, then Disney is pretty smart to charge for it.

pooh6890
05-08-2002, 12:03 PM
I would assume that so people were requesting those buildings they know they can gouge us for the extra $10/night and call it a preferred building. Also, everyone wants to be closest to the Food Court/Bus stop because we all know how far that last building looks at the end of our hot, humid, long lines, very tiring day right?

CamColt
05-08-2002, 12:07 PM
I dont know how this would work out, but I think they would be better off charging extra to guarantee a certain building, whatever one the guest wants. For example, Fantasia is the "preferred" building and costs more. Its definitely not my preference, even before the price increase. I have requested Mighty Ducks. Disney would make out better by charging me extra to guarantee me a MD room. I would probably pay it to get what I want. Im sure many other people would pay extra to guarantee their "request" too. Not everybody wants Fantasia(or the other preferred buildings in other All Stars).

ToTLaugher
05-08-2002, 12:42 PM
Call me a cold hearted capitalist but....

Disney charges different prices for different items. The value of these items is determined by the price people are willing to pay for them and by the cost of producing them. Does a room with a view of water cost Disney more than a room with a view of a parking lot? Not really, but they charge more for one than the other. Why? Because some people are willing to pay more to look out at a pool, river, or lake than at asphalt.

If Disney feels that some rooms are more valuable to customers due to location (and location is the first rule of real estate), then they will charge more for those rooms as long as there are people willing to pay for it. I'd bet that Disney has noticed the pattern of room requests, and is adjusting prices based on popularity.

Magic2000
05-08-2002, 12:51 PM
I think Disney is trying to cut down on the number of requests for the buildings that seem closest to the bus stop/food court. We've stayed at the Movies twice now; in 2000, we had Love Bug and last year we had 101 Dalmations. I really didn't find Love Bug and/or 101 Dalmations to be that much further of a walk - I don't think it is worth the extra $10 per night to have Fantasia. The resort is wonderful - and I didn't think it was that spread out.

pooh6890
05-08-2002, 12:55 PM
Let's face it.....fair or not....we are willing to pay these prices for what we want for a Disney hotel experience...at least I am. So if cheapo me will do it....so will others. It's called consumer demand.

kdmak
05-08-2002, 12:57 PM
I can definitely see why someone would pay more for a room with a good location. On our last trip we stayed in the Herby the Love Bug building at ASMo. We had to have one of the furthest rooms away from everything overlooking the back parking lot. It poured all day everyday and we had 2 strollers to run with through the rain. From the busses that was very far. I would have gladly paid a few extra bucks to not go through that again.

Mickey1928
05-08-2002, 12:59 PM
What ToTLaugher said. :D

We pay WAY more for Beach Club, and for us, it's all about the location.

pooh6890
05-08-2002, 01:11 PM
You are right Mickey.....it's all about location. We pay extra for the Deluxe pampering too. When we stayed at All Star Music in CountryFaire......we actually drove up to the front of the hotel a few times, parked, ate and then would catch the bus to a park. At the end of our long day, just hopped off the bus and into our car and DROVE back to our room. ....sometimes lazy works!:D

Trekker
05-08-2002, 01:29 PM
You know Disney did not charge more for these buildings until so many people started to request these buildings as the ones the would "prefer" to stay in.

Any business keeps track of what product they sell has the biggest demand and then charges the most for that product.

kylara
05-08-2002, 01:43 PM
I agree, Disney is charging what the market will bear for those rooms. I had seen many times on the Dis as certain buildings being the one people should request. So Disney realized that people would probably be willing to pay a little extra to be guaranteed that building. And by charging, Disney is able to cut down on the number of people who end up unhappy because they didn't get their preference. Now they know up front they need to pay for that building.

eeyore0062
05-08-2002, 03:30 PM
It is a simple matter of supply and demand... if guests are requesting to stay in certain buildings more than others, it stands to reason that these rooms must be "preferred" over some others, for one reason, or another. Since this is the case, and not everyone can stay in those buildings, they charge an extra $10 a night to those who really want to stay there, and those guests will willingly pay the extra. Makes perfect sense, and as long as there are people out there willing to do so, then by all means, Disney is being very business savvy by taking advantage of it. Really it is no different than wanting a room with a pool or water view at one of the mods or deluxes...it is all in what the guest wants and how much they are willing to pay.

Bob NC
05-08-2002, 05:56 PM
Do you think it's fair...

Yes.

callahanjulie10
05-08-2002, 06:31 PM
IMO- if they are going to charge more due to location then they need to charge less for the buildings in the back 40! I was also upset when I called to make a ressie for my mother and my 80 year old aunt. I wanted POR and that wasn't avail- the only thin available for the nights that they need were Boardwalk (way to much- $700 for 4 nights) and ASMusic. I knew that they would not want to pay for BW but ASMu isn't their cup of tea either. It really irked me that I would have to pay $10 extra per night (almost the same cost as POR).

We were in the Western bldg one time and that is just an extremely long walk for anyone esp. 2 elderly women. BTW- the only reason they are going to WDW is for the FLower show at Epcot!

Tuffcookie
05-08-2002, 10:24 PM
Well, IMHO a value resort, is a value resort, is a value resort. It's not like there is a lagoon view or concierge offered. If you "request" Calypso Bldg. and it's available for the date and time you're making the request then you shouldn't be charged extra for it. Just imagine if you made ressies for ASMu, and say you requested the Jazz Bldg, and they told you all buildings were filled except the Calypso. I guess you would be offered an"upgrade" to Calypso then and not be charged extra.

TC :cool:

pooh6890
05-09-2002, 07:34 AM
The thing is that there are so many people out there that just call for reservations with no codes and no discounts. When they book the Allstars they are not usually aware of the preferred buildings and probably end up getting put in that building if that is what is available upon check-in. I have been upgraded so many times and didn't even know it at the Deluxes until I found this website. What goes around comes around I guess...:D

caitycaity
05-09-2002, 08:39 AM
yup, it's fair.

tampafan
05-09-2002, 09:00 AM
Since it is their resort and the buildings are "closer", I think it is fair. Now, for us, it is not worth paying the extra $ for the "convienence".

leelee1971
05-09-2002, 09:20 AM
Here's what happened to my parents: I bought them a trip for Christmas/Anniversary present to All Stars Music. My dad is a "very large" man to put it nicely. Well, they arrived before their room was ready, huffed and puffed through Epcot the whole day, and then went back to the resort. Wouldn't you know it that their room was in the Country section - one of the last (if not, the last - I've never been to All Stars). My poor dad (has a heart condition), was sweating and panting the entire walk. He whispered to my mom that if he had to do this walk every day, he'd collapse. Upon reaching their destination, the wonderful Cast Member made a phone call, said she'd be right back, and had them wait. She got a motorized cart, picked them and their luggage up, and brought them to their new room in the Jazz section. She said this normally is a preferred view - but never charged them for the upgrade.

Had I known their was such a thing, I would have paid the ten dollars. My dad's health is worth it!

CamColt
05-09-2002, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Tuffcookie
Just imagine if you made ressies for ASMu, and say you requested the Jazz Bldg, and they told you all buildings were filled except the Calypso. I guess you would be offered an"upgrade" to Calypso then and not be charged extra.

TC :cool:

When we called to book ASMO we asked for a quote for 5 nights. They told us that all that was available was preferred rooms and quoted us the price, with the "extra" added in (so no upgrade). I was disappointed because I really didnt want Fantasia, not to mention I was looking for a cheap trip. Then we asked about 6 nights and suddenly a standard room was open...for only $24.00 more than the 5 nights in the preferred! Guess what we took? :D