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Mouse Skywalker
11-04-2008, 08:05 AM
I did. :thumbsup2
Lines weren't too bad this morning here in Rochester. Needed to drop DD10 princess: off at school early for chorus practice and I took her with me. She was very excited to pull the lever to close and open the curtain.
edamethyst
11-04-2008, 08:06 AM
I did. I stopped on my way to work and got my vote in.
scarlett873
11-04-2008, 08:06 AM
We voted early on Saturday in our county! Waited 1 1/2 hours to do it, but it was worth it to not have to deal with the lines today! :thumbsup2
I feel very grown up. I'm 35 years old and this is the first presidential election that i've voted in! :yay:
FireDancer
11-04-2008, 08:14 AM
I got up early and hit the polls when they opened. It only took about 20 minutes. I vote in all elections, it is the only way we can have a real voice in our government.
I'm lucky enough to be in a state where the electorial vote isn't pre-determined like CA or NY so it is even more important.
MickeyMomOfThree
11-04-2008, 08:16 AM
We are in a suburb of Rochester, my DH went on his way into work and it was empty. Then he went and got his free coffee at Starbucks.
My kids have today off (schools used for voting), so my morning has been a bit more lazy then normal but I just got out of the shower and then we will head over. My younger 2 girls always like to go and "vote", so they can go to school and say they voted.
M&M's
11-04-2008, 08:18 AM
It feels good to vote, especially in an election as monumental as this one.
It'll be fun to watch the broadcast tonight. I sure will miss Tim Russert and his white dry-erase board though. He was the highlight for me back in 2000 and even 2004.
Cruz Family
11-04-2008, 08:23 AM
I have to wait until after work, I start too early. :sad2:
BTW, Im not telling who I am voting for!!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Minniemouse07
11-04-2008, 08:26 AM
I arrived at 6:50am and was the 47th voter (polls opened at 7am here in PA)! Took me until 7:25am before I was done.
I looked at the line as I was leaving and called dh to tell him to hurry up. It was out the door of the church and about 30yds down the sidewalk and around the corner! I've never even stood on a line there before that went out the door of the church!
It is going to definitely be a crazy day!
Mouse Skywalker
11-04-2008, 08:28 AM
BTW: Here's another perk of participating in Democracy. Free Ice Cream!
http://www.benjerry.com/features/i_voted/
scarlett873
11-04-2008, 08:28 AM
I have to wait until after work, I start too early. :sad2:
BTW, Im not telling who I am voting for!!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I'm impressed you've kept it a secret for this long! ;) :rotfl:
SpaceMtnFan
11-04-2008, 08:31 AM
I voted absentee last month:thumbsup2
peacelovemickey
11-04-2008, 08:32 AM
Got there at 6:50 and the when the polls opened I was only one of 5 people in the A-L line. Some guy go tin with a Joe Plummer shirt on. I can't beleive no one stopped him!
jeanigor
11-04-2008, 08:34 AM
The polls don't open here until 7am and I was in the office before 6:30. My secretary voted before she came in and she said the lines weren't too bad. We'll just see what they are like around 4:30.:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
NC Belle
11-04-2008, 08:42 AM
Dh and I voted this morning---no lines.
UrsulasShadow
11-04-2008, 08:43 AM
Geez, I just woke up (ahhh, the life of the unemployed!). I'll be heading out to the polling location on my way to the gym...in about an hour. Even though my state has always been predetermined, I feel it's important to get my voice heard and not to be complacent.
wildfan1473
11-04-2008, 08:47 AM
We are going to wait until DS6 gets home from school and DH gets home from work and all go together, they both left before the polls opened. We have a kids booth for them to vote, so he and his younger brother are both excited about that.
Fortunately, we live in the middle of nowhere, and our township has under 500 people, so there are never any lines. In fact, we are so far in the boonies, the bar/restaurant across from the town hall (which is the original school house from over 100 years ago), is called "Boonies". :rotfl:
Cruz Family
11-04-2008, 08:48 AM
Even though my state has always been predetermined, I feel it's important to get my voice heard and not to be complacent.
Predetermined.....Massachusetts???? I can't believe such a thing!!!! :rotfl2:
NWOhioAngela
11-04-2008, 08:49 AM
Yep! The wait was 45 minutes in our small rural town. I'm usually in and out in 10 minutes.
DaveH
11-04-2008, 08:49 AM
We voted this morning. We waited for about 30 minutes. I was number 656 and that was when the polls here were open for about an hour and 20 minutes. I saw lines on TV for the area, some looked like lines for Toy Story Mania.:eek:
NWOhioAngela
11-04-2008, 08:51 AM
We voted this morning. We waited for about 30 minutes. I was number 656 and that was when the polls here were open for about an hour and 20 minutes. I saw lines on TV for the area, some looked like lines for Toy Story Mania.:eek:
Were all the fast passes gone already? ;)
Mouse Skywalker
11-04-2008, 09:00 AM
At our polling station there was already a 20% voter turnout before 9:00am.
kab407
11-04-2008, 09:05 AM
Yes, at 6:45Am. No wait, which is the same as Stitch's Great Escape?
parrotheadlois
11-04-2008, 09:19 AM
not yet, won't get there till around 6:30 :scared1:
We voted last Saturday morning. I wanted to get it done so Tuesday (today) was not a rush. We waited about 50 minutes in line at our county courthouse.
cocowum
11-04-2008, 09:26 AM
I vote in every election. :thumbsup2 I always bring DD with me. She is now 14. I can't believe she'll be voting in the next Presidential election. :scared1: Gosh, I'm getting old! :laughing: We'll vote after school. :thumbsup2
I have to wait until after work, I start too early. :sad2:
BTW, I'm not telling who I am voting for!!!!:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Hmmm, I don't think I know... :scratchin
Being a NYer, my votes likely not going to count but I'll be casting it anyway. :thumbsup2
GabbyMom
11-04-2008, 09:27 AM
I voted early on one of those touch screen thingies. i hate trying to line up the punch ballot. I'm always worried I punched the wrong hole.
schoen
11-04-2008, 09:39 AM
I voted last tuesday at city hall. Glad I don't have to deal with it today!
crazydisneyman
11-04-2008, 09:53 AM
I voted this morning.
I was number 630 at my polling place.
I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes. We waited until the rush was gone.
I have heard heavy turnout in the suburbs in Indiana. It will be interesting to see who wins the state.
GO VOTE!
disneymom8589
11-04-2008, 09:55 AM
Our county voted to do mail-in ballots, which I don't like. There's something "All-American" about walking into a polling place! I mailed in my ballot two or so weeks ago. In my 2nd grade class we're going to vote between M&Ms and Skittles. The winning candy is what they'll get! I even have some cute "I Voted" stickers for them. At least, I'll feel like I did something "election-related" today!! :)
WaltD4Me
11-04-2008, 10:03 AM
I took off today and am going to vote in about a half an hour. I'm in Ohio...battleground state...I heard the lines were pretty long early this morning, but it's quieted down for the moment.
Cruz Family
11-04-2008, 10:04 AM
In my 2nd grade class we're going to vote between M&Ms and Skittles. The winning candy is what they'll get! I even have some cute "I Voted" stickers for them. At least, I'll feel like I did something "election-related" today!! :)
Ummm....is that even fair? M&M's are going to win by a landslide, personally I consider Skittles a third party candidate!;)
Really though, that is a very cute idea!:thumbsup2
AuroraJae
11-04-2008, 10:10 AM
Yep, Corey and I voted! We always vote absentee because going to the polls here in Orange Co., FL is totally out of the question. The lines are always ridiculous even with all the early voting that happened.
SpaceMtnFan
11-04-2008, 10:16 AM
Yep, Corey and I voted! We always vote absentee because going to the polls here in Orange Co., FL is totally out of the question. The lines are always ridiculous even with all the early voting that happened.
Julie im glad that you and corey voted absentee Like Me and my girlfriend did I knew the Lines were going to be long so we voted absentee.
sasmmb
11-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Voted just now. Was number 152 in my polling place, 3.5 hours after the polls opened. Wait was less than 5 minutes and that was because they didn't have enough "magic pens" (it's a connect the arrows weird thing to mark your candidate). I'm in Illinois though, so not exactly a toss-up state!
SamIAm21
11-04-2008, 10:41 AM
Our area schools were closed today so that they could be used as polling places. So this morning I had to drive DD across town to the Community Center so she'd have a safe place to hang out for the day and that left me very little time to vote and catch my train. So, given that I work in the Loop and they are ramping up for Obama-rama in Grant Park, I am able to leave the office early in order to vote and get out of "Dodge" before the crowds descend upon us.
I will be able to vote at about 4:30 this afternoon! :thumbsup2
tickledtink33
11-04-2008, 10:48 AM
I have to wait until ater work. I hope the wait isn't too long.
MenashaCorp
11-04-2008, 11:28 AM
I voted for Bawb. :thumbsup2
UrsulasShadow
11-04-2008, 11:35 AM
I just got home from voting. They had me on the "inactive" list...ME...who has voted in every g-d election since I turned 18! They made me fill in a form and let me vote, and told me to go to town hall later in the week and give 'em heck...guess this has been going on with a lot of people in my precinct today.
Also got to the gym for the first time in MONTHS! I feel all warm and fuzzy now.
Michele
11-04-2008, 11:48 AM
Yep, went at about 9:15 this morning. My polling area was more crowded than normal, but it still only took me about 10 min total.
disneycruise05
11-04-2008, 11:51 AM
I voted!!!! My very first presidential election!!! I wanted my first time to be on election day. Got to the polling location a few minutes after they opened and waited about 30 minutes. It's absolutely amazing to see how it seems everyone who is able to vote is doing so this election.
TXYankee
11-04-2008, 12:06 PM
I voted this morning! :hippie:
I believe it is my right and my duty!
krissy2803
11-04-2008, 12:19 PM
DH and I voted Wednesday! :thumbsup2
We voted early.
DVCsince02
11-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Rainy day here too. Took my daughter with me so she could learn what a privilege it is to be an American, even let her push the button. We walked right up and signed my card and only one person ahead of me. Took 3 minutes max.
OnePrincess
11-04-2008, 01:01 PM
I'm going to vote on my way home from work. I should be there around 3:00, hopefully the lines won't be too bad.
BriarRosie
11-04-2008, 01:08 PM
I remember how excited I was when I was 18 years old, my first election would be a Presidential one! However, I voted absentee from my dorm room. ;)
I've voted in every election since. I got my ballot in just around the same time Obama was still voting downtown this morning. It's funny what they report on the radio. "He's....still voting...."
Decorated_Dust
11-04-2008, 01:19 PM
I'm going to vote today with my mom. I'm praying that I beat the after-work crowd. My school is having a viewing party of the CNN election coverage, so it's almost like Super Bowl sunday. I'm happy that for once, my peers are more excited about the election than I am.
zulemara
11-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Our county voted to do mail-in ballots, which I don't like. There's something "All-American" about walking into a polling place! I mailed in my ballot two or so weeks ago. In my 2nd grade class we're going to vote between M&Ms and Skittles. The winning candy is what they'll get! I even have some cute "I Voted" stickers for them. At least, I'll feel like I did something "election-related" today!! :)
Given I was a creator of something called "skittlefest" in high school, skittles get my vote.
oh and no lines=stitch's great escape:rotfl: :rotfl: :lmao: :lmao: :rotfl2:
Annette_VA
11-04-2008, 02:46 PM
BTW: Here's another perk of participating in Democracy. Free Ice Cream!
http://www.benjerry.com/features/i_voted/
Don't forget about free coffee at Starbucks & free chicken sandwiches at Chick-fil-a!!
Cruz Family
11-04-2008, 02:46 PM
skittles get my vote.
Skittles over M&Ms........and you call yourself an American!!!!!:sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
warpdarkmatter
11-04-2008, 02:49 PM
voted and got my free coffee at starbucks for voting:)
*Seanaci*
11-04-2008, 03:15 PM
I sat on my couch, in the comfort of my home 2 and a half weeks ago and voted. then stuck the ballot in the envelope and threw a stamp on it and threw it in the mail. Easiest voting I've ever done. :D
burberryplaid
11-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Absolutely, I did!
*KeepMovingForward*
11-04-2008, 03:23 PM
voted and got my free coffee at starbucks for voting:)
I feel cheated...we got Dunkin Donuts free coffee after voting (and a donut), but I would have preferred Starbucks! ;)
Halloweenqueen
11-04-2008, 03:38 PM
I did my first ever mail-in ballot here in WA two weeks ago. I almost miss the fun of waiting in line...almost. :)
wifey1220
11-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I voted today at 2pm no lines here.
Kaler131
11-04-2008, 03:52 PM
My sister voted yesterday and waited in line for almost 5 hours!! I voted around 1:00 this afternoon and walked right in!! I was in the door and finished voting in about 5 minutes!!:thumbsup2
zulemara
11-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Skittles over M&Ms........and you call yourself an American!!!!!:sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
I'll see if I can find video of skittlefest 2004 and link it
dawnbu40
11-04-2008, 04:30 PM
My DH and I waited two hours and ten minutes to vote! I have to say everyone was patient and in good spirits and the time went pretty quick.
PoohHappens
11-04-2008, 04:31 PM
I voted today, and I waited longer than I have ever waited for any Disney attraction. 2hours and 10 minutes from line to vote. I had a 1 year old with me too. :thumbsup2 He did great and I was just thrilled to have the privilege to vote.
As a side note my Dsis and I are polar oposites when it comes to politics, but I called her from the line to chat and burn some of the time. She tried to see if she could answer any questions for me before I voted. I figure if she could not change my mind in 2 hours, it never will.;)
PoohHappens
11-04-2008, 04:34 PM
My DH and I waited two hours and ten minutes to vote! I have to say everyone was patient and in good spirits and the time went pretty quick.
That is really funny we were posting at the same time and had the same wait.:confused3
Stacy's a freak
11-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Yup - this morning before work at about 7:45 a.m. The line only took about 10 minutes which is awesome! But I live in a pretty small town ... I can't imagine living in a big city and having to wait hours on/in line :(
dawnbu40
11-04-2008, 04:42 PM
That is strange we had the same wait time lol! Glad to hear your little one was so good. I was so impressed with how well behaved all the kids were today! Two+ hours is a really long time for a child and I never heard one complaint! That shows great kids and great parenting!
Madi100
11-04-2008, 04:51 PM
Voted last night.
jeanigor
11-04-2008, 04:57 PM
Just got home from work/voting. It took a grand total of 22 minutes from exiting my car to re entering it. Only about 10 minutes longer than normal. Our ballots we full of city ordinances that most people didn't know about, so there was a slight line. Nothing horrendous.:goodvibes
bubba73
11-04-2008, 05:07 PM
I voted this afternoon when I got off work. There wasn't many people there but several came in when I was about to leave. The pollsters said they were having one of their best turnouts ever.
APB513
11-04-2008, 05:21 PM
We got the day off today so I wanted to go early enough to beat the rush. The lines were not very long. It took about 30 minutes total.
This is the first Presidential election that my oldest DS was able to vote in. He was a little skeptical given the events of the 2000 election. But I told him that it's better for hm to make his voice heard than to stay silent on the sidelines. Seeing him in the voting booth was awesome!!! I'm a very proud Mama!!! :thumbsup2
MickeyMomOfThree
11-04-2008, 05:24 PM
I vote in every election. :thumbsup2 I always bring DD with me. She is now 14. I can't believe she'll be voting in the next Presidential election. :scared1: Gosh, I'm getting old! :laughing: We'll vote after school. :thumbsup2
Hmmm, I don't think I know... :scratchin
Being a NYer, my votes likely not going to count but I'll be casting it anyway. :thumbsup2
Oh My gosh, we said the same thing about our DD14 last night. Scary isn't it? I can't believe the next time I walk in to vote for president she will be signing in for real too!
Also, I too am in NY and while I've been told my vote wouldn't count or matter, there is no way I could tell my DH who fought (and was partly disabled becasue of it) for my right to do so that I wasn't going. PLUS, if enough of us go, you never know!
MickeyMomOfThree
11-04-2008, 05:27 PM
I also wanted to say that I love seeing the lines. DH went at 6:45 and was the 40th person to vote. ot too bad, I wnet at 9:30 ish and was number 52. I couldn't believe so few had been there. I was thinking most will come after work, and maybe they are, but we were outside when the neighbors left to vote. They were gone about 5 minutes, literally. We live under a minute from the place, but still, there was nobody thre and that was after work! I like seeing the lines, I don't like to wait but I do like seeing so many turning out!
APB513
11-04-2008, 05:34 PM
I also wanted to say that I love seeing the lines. DH went at 6:45 and was the 40th person to vote. ot too bad, I wnet at 9:30 ish and was number 52. I couldn't believe so few had been there. I was thinking most will come after work, and maybe they are, but we were outside when the neighbors left to vote. They were gone about 5 minutes, literally. We live under a minute from the place, but still, there was nobody thre and that was after work! I like seeing the lines, I don't like to wait but I do like seeing so many turning out!
We voted around 10:45 am and I got ballot number 515 from our precinct.
There were two precincts in our polling place and our district had the longer line. I did notice that the lines were getting longer as we were leaving.
MickeyMomOfThree
11-04-2008, 05:43 PM
That's good to hear, I guess maybe we had lots of people eel that in NY it doesn't matter, be it that it isn't needed to win or it won't swing it your way. Either way, I always vote, I tell my friends who don't that if you don't vote you can't complain!:lmao:
BTW, my grandparents live in Michigan (Plymouth). I used to cheer sometimes in Ypsi!
APB513
11-04-2008, 06:01 PM
That's good to hear, I guess maybe we had lots of people eel that in NY it doesn't matter, be it that it isn't needed to win or it won't swing it your way. Either way, I always vote, I tell my friends who don't that if you don't vote you can't complain!:lmao:
BTW, my grandparents live in Michigan (Plymouth). I used to cheer sometimes in Ypsi!
:cheer2: Howdy (former) neighbor :cheer2:
Timon-n-Pumbaa Fan
11-04-2008, 06:33 PM
Yes, I voted on Halloween. It took me 5-1/2 hours, but I did place my vote.
CHES94
11-04-2008, 07:19 PM
Yup early voted on a new fangled electronic box:rotfl2:
princess&her4princes
11-04-2008, 07:22 PM
Yep!! Voted here!!!!
Tonya2426
11-04-2008, 07:28 PM
I voted!!! Took only about 2 minutes since we use fancy touch screen - very easy to use. The longest part is when the poll worker has to look up my name. :confused3
maiziezoe
11-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Yep! I voted!
I've been voting since 1988... this is the first time that I've been able to vote in short and flips flops! The weather in Illinois is AMAZING! I vote for more days like this!
disneymom8589
11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
Ummm....is that even fair? M&M's are going to win by a landslide, personally I consider Skittles a third party candidate!;)
Really though, that is a very cute idea!:thumbsup2
Believe it or not, Skittles won pretty handily!! :)
BobWerner
11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
I voted and I voted against Marxism.
M&M's
11-04-2008, 10:07 PM
I feel cheated...we got Dunkin Donuts free coffee after voting (and a donut), but I would have preferred Starbucks! ;) That's funny. I got my free coffee from Starbucks, but would have much preferred Dunkin Donuts. :upsidedow
Believe it or not, Skittles won pretty handily!! :) I'm M&M's and even I would have voted Skittles!
Edit: Sorry Kevin, John, and Pete. It looks like Florida is going to revert back to a ban on gay marriage. My question is why do people care about this? It does not effect anyone else in any way. Homophobia and ignorance reigns. Hopefully my daughter's generation will be more open and understanding.
Kaler131
11-04-2008, 11:29 PM
I just want to say....Yea Obama!!!!:cool1:
UrsulasShadow
11-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Yes, we can!
IWISHFORDISNEY
11-05-2008, 12:48 AM
YUP, Yes we can!!!!
challer
11-05-2008, 01:34 AM
Voted in the Bronx!
Looking forward to "Drill baby drill" being chanted only in my dentist's office!
angelegod
11-08-2008, 09:38 PM
I voted
SamSam
11-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Voted early as I was going to be out of town for work on election day.
Love the USA!
TroyE
11-09-2008, 09:57 PM
Voted at about 2pm, I was expecting a huge wait with all of the talk I had been hearing, but I only waited about 10 minutes.
disneygrlkat
11-09-2008, 10:52 PM
I voted for the first time! It was at my college and I had to wait about an hour, but it was worth it knowing that so many others my age were getting out there to vote as well.
I also took pics of the entire process with my phone, which may or may not be illegal
Jubilee
11-09-2008, 10:56 PM
I voted for the first time too, age 27
angelegod
11-09-2008, 10:59 PM
I voted for the 2ed time age 23
Decorated_Dust
11-10-2008, 10:30 AM
Yup, I voted for the first time, too. Of course, all the people I voted for lost. The initiatives I voted for won, but I don't count those. Florida has about 10 a year, and half of them I don't understand. Oh well, I'm not complaining. I love this country, I'm very interested in politics, and I'm happy I voted. When I watched the TV, and I saw the number of votes on the screen, I shouted "One of those is mine!!!" Wow, I am a dork, aren't I?
Thank the Lord for the USA where we can take part in this and decide our own fate!!!!
nedac
11-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Yay! Socialism! Woo Hoo!
One step closer to communism!
Sorry... I had to vent a little :) and yes I voted!
Mickey_Man
11-12-2008, 07:16 PM
Yay! Socialism! Woo Hoo!
One step closer to communism!
Sorry... I had to vent a little :) and yes I voted!
One more unsolicited, unsubstantiated commentary on politics. Sorry - had to vent a little too. That is the beauty of this country - we can express our opinions on these issues and both have the right to do so!
nedac
11-12-2008, 09:58 PM
One more unsolicited, unsubstantiated commentary on politics. Sorry - had to vent a little too. That is the beauty of this country - we can express our opinions on these issues and both have the right to do so!
No problem, I expected a little backlash. My comment was not solicited, however, it can be substantiated. The very rights we love are slowly being taken from us. I won't get into it, I just hope I am wrong.
Mickey_Man
11-13-2008, 06:35 AM
No problem, I expected a little backlash. My comment was not solicited, however, it can be substantiated. The very rights we love are slowly being taken from us. I won't get into it, I just hope I am wrong.
That's an interesting perspective, as I see choices being preserved and some people who deserve every right finally geting them - i.e. ensuring Roe v wade doesn't get overturned and gay marriage in CT (and hopefully for the rest of the country) for example. I know your perspective when you say socialism, but the whole "redistribution of wealth" has been our taxation system from the beginning, and the tax structure rumored as being discussed is no different than it was during the Clinton administration.
Oh, and yes I did vote.
nedac
11-13-2008, 09:28 AM
That's an interesting perspective, as I see choices being preserved and some people who deserve every right finally geting them - i.e. ensuring Roe v wade doesn't get overturned and gay marriage in CT (and hopefully for the rest of the country) for example. I know your perspective when you say socialism, but the whole "redistribution of wealth" has been our taxation system from the beginning, and the tax structure rumored as being discussed is no different than it was during the Clinton administration.
Oh, and yes I did vote.
Actually, abortion and gay marriage are moral issues and are really not my main concern, I don't agree with either, but again, not a major concern at this point.
To clear things up, "redistribution of wealth" has not been our taxation system since the beginning. This country was founded on capitalism. Thats why its called the American Dream. It was not built on handouts and social programs. I was motivated so I started working when I was 15 years old, went to college, got an education, and got a decent job so I could make a good life for me and my family. Not so I could support those who are too lazy to do what I did. Our forefathers would cringe at the thought of that.
Lastly, its amazing what 8 years erases from our memories. The Clinton administration rode an economic upturn bought on by the internet boom. None of this was brought on his tax structures. Don't forget, at the end of the Clinton administration we were on the brink of recession, again due to the eventual dot com bust. It was not until Bush took office and cut taxes we started to climb out of the hole. Of course, this is all public record, don't take my word for it. My point is, Clintons taxes didn't affect the economy because it was in such a state of immense growth, none of which he can take credit for. The economy is in a different state now... those tax structures will not hold up. I am afraid we are looking at another Jimmy Carter era. :scared:
And no, I am not a big McCain supporter. I am just tired of people always wanting the government to bail them out. Instead of taking care of themselves and handling their business as they should, its easier to blame someone else and wait to be rescued by the government. The whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac ordeal is a great example of this. Spurred on by the government, they loaned money to people who could not afford to pay them back. Now, we are going to have to pay for that, not them... they are still broke. It just disgusts me and it goes on and on and on. Everyone is a victim... yuck!
Remember:
* You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer
down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class
hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's
initiative and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they
could and should, do for themselves.
KimStaR
11-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Actually, abortion and gay marriage are moral issues and are really not my main concern, I don't agree with either, but again, not a major concern at this point.
To clear things up, "redistribution of wealth" has not been our taxation system since the beginning. This country was founded on capitalism. Thats why its called the American Dream. It was not built on handouts and social programs. I was motivated so I started working when I was 15 years old, went to college, got an education, and got a decent job so I could make a good life for me and my family. Not so I could support those who are too lazy to do what I did. Our forefathers would cringe at the thought of that.
Lastly, its amazing what 8 years erases from our memories. The Clinton administration rode an economic upturn bought on by the internet boom. None of this was brought on his tax structures. Don't forget, at the end of the Clinton administration we were on the brink of recession, again due to the eventual dot com bust. It was not until Bush took office and cut taxes we started to climb out of the hole. Of course, this is all public record, don't take my word for it. My point is, Clintons taxes didn't affect the economy because it was in such a state of immense growth, none of which he can take credit for. The economy is in a different state now... those tax structures will not hold up. I am afraid we are looking at another Jimmy Carter era. :scared:
And no, I am not a big McCain supporter. I am just tired of people always wanting the government to bail them out. Instead of taking care of themselves and handling their business as they should, its easier to blame someone else and wait to be rescued by the government. The whole Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac ordeal is a great example of this. Spurred on by the government, they loaned money to people who could not afford to pay them back. Now, we are going to have to pay for that, not them... they are still broke. It just disgusts me and it goes on and on and on. Everyone is a victim... yuck!
Remember:
* You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer
down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class
hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's
initiative and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they
could and should, do for themselves.
these may not be YOUR main concern, but these rights ARE the main concern of others
Decorated_Dust
11-13-2008, 12:03 PM
I'm very glad we got six pages into the board without discussing politics. That's something.
I disagree with Obama on almost everything (except when he emphasized that there was no denying the moral significance of abortion, and when he gave his definition of marriage), and he he gave me chills (not good ones) when I first heard him speak in 2004. That being said, I wanted to extend my support to the new president, despite disagreeing with him. When I have a problem with a policy, I will respectfully make my opinion known, and I know those on this board will do the same. I'm extending a courtesy not given to my candidates.
BarbieGal457
11-13-2008, 12:05 PM
I did vote, in my first-ever Presidential election! I'm 20, so I was about 2 years too late last time. I'm shocked at how proud I felt, and all the congratulations I got at the polling place!
nedac
11-13-2008, 01:00 PM
these may not be YOUR main concern, but these rights ARE the main concern of others
Without discussing morals, I will simply say again, I do not support either of these issues and this is my opinion on both: 1)Murder is not a right and 2)gay marriage violates simple procreative laws of nature, though I do support same sex legal unions 100%, marriage is a religious institution and if you want to separate church and state, leave religious institutions alone. And if he was not lying in the debate, I don't think he supports gay marriage either. I could be wrong on that, I just figure most people as liberal as he is would support it.
I simply meant this is not my problem with Obama, though yes, they do concern me.
WebmasterPete
11-13-2008, 01:03 PM
Hi everyone,
While this thread has not crossed any lines at all, I see potential. There are many things I would like to say to some of the comments made here, but I won't because I'd only be stoking a fire that does not require any help.
I have kept politics out of the show, in spite of the fact that three of us have VERY VERY strong political opinions - we do that out of respect for all of our listeners. You don't listen to the show to hear our opinions on politics, you listen to the show to hear our opinions on Disney.
I say this only as a cautionary note - lets make sure that our comments are respectful of everyone's feelings. We don't have to agree - but it's important to remember that 30 different people can have 30 different opinions and no one has to be wrong.
Thanks,
Pete
nedac
11-13-2008, 01:13 PM
Hi everyone,
While this thread has not crossed any lines at all, I see potential. There are many things I would like to say to some of the comments made here, but I won't because I'd only be stoking a fire that does not require any help.
I have kept politics out of the show, in spite of the fact that three of us have VERY VERY strong political opinions - we do that out of respect for all of our listeners. You don't listen to the show to hear our opinions on politics, you listen to the show to hear our opinions on Disney.
I say this only as a cautionary note - lets make sure that our comments are respectful of everyone's feelings. We don't have to agree - but it's important to remember that 30 different people can have 30 different opinions and no one has to be wrong.
Thanks,
Pete
No problem, Pete... I respect you guys immensely and I see your point. I will cease any further discussion of this stuff for the reason you mentioned. I, for one, mean no ill will and I don't think anyone else did either, though I see the potential for some offense to be taken. This needs to remain the "Second Happiest Place on Earth."
I hope all is well with your personal journey you are undertaking and I just wanted to let you know what a great thing you have created here and I think we can all agree that we appreciate all your hard work as well as the work of your fellow team members. Thank you for all you do.
Mickey_Man
11-14-2008, 06:11 AM
No problem, Pete... I respect you guys immensely and I see your point. I will cease any further discussion of this stuff for the reason you mentioned. I, for one, mean no ill will and I don't think anyone else did either, though I see the potential for some offense to be taken. This needs to remain the "Second Happiest Place on Earth."
I hope all is well with your personal journey you are undertaking and I just wanted to let you know what a great thing you have created here and I think we can all agree that we appreciate all your hard work as well as the work of your fellow team members. Thank you for all you do.
I second this as well, and I appreciate Pete stepping in before someone did post something that went too far.
Nedac - I did enjoy our short political debate and did not think anything went too far. I respect your points, but I will continue to disagree with many of your thoughts, as I support social programs, offering my fellow American a helping hand, and personal freedoms. I was able to follow the same path you did to personal success, but some of that came on the heals of the generous government funding of college loans and grants in the 90s, and without those I never would have the degree/career I have. And finally, while you cited certain topics as moral issues, government was trying to direct those in ways that were not fair to all. Marriage is not a religious institution if you do not want it to be - it is a formal contract in the eyes of the government. I was not married in a religious ceremony - in fact I was married at the Wedding Pavilion by a J/P!! I just would like to see everyone have the same opportunity.
Thanks for the spirited intellectual discussion. See you at Mousefest?
nedac
11-14-2008, 08:50 AM
I second this as well, and I appreciate Pete stepping in before someone did post something that went too far.
Nedac - I did enjoy our short political debate and did not think anything went too far. I respect your points, but I will continue to disagree with many of your thoughts, as I support social programs, offering my fellow American a helping hand, and personal freedoms. I was able to follow the same path you did to personal success, but some of that came on the heals of the generous government funding of college loans and grants in the 90s, and without those I never would have the degree/career I have. And finally, while you cited certain topics as moral issues, government was trying to direct those in ways that were not fair to all. Marriage is not a religious institution if you do not want it to be - it is a formal contract in the eyes of the government. I was not married in a religious ceremony - in fact I was married at the Wedding Pavilion by a J/P!! I just would like to see everyone have the same opportunity.
Thanks for the spirited intellectual discussion. See you at Mousefest?
No Mousefest for me... I will be there this week! Leaving tomorrow! Woo Hoo!
By the way, I also funded (and still am) my education through school loans and grants. I have no problem helping fund educations so future generations can do what we did. Its people like my mother and sisters who take advantage of government programs because they don't want to work. I love them, but they make a great example of themselves :) For example, two of my sisters won't get married because they have children and would lose their free check from the government. One is working on getting her MBA and I can somewhat understand her plight... the other.... again a good example.
Anywho, I said I would shut up, so I will. We will see what the future holds... I hope you are right and I am wrong :)
Bobby Jindal 2012 ;)
KimStaR
11-14-2008, 09:25 AM
Hi everyone,
While this thread has not crossed any lines at all, I see potential. There are many things I would like to say to some of the comments made here, but I won't because I'd only be stoking a fire that does not require any help.
I have kept politics out of the show, in spite of the fact that three of us have VERY VERY strong political opinions - we do that out of respect for all of our listeners. You don't listen to the show to hear our opinions on politics, you listen to the show to hear our opinions on Disney.
I say this only as a cautionary note - lets make sure that our comments are respectful of everyone's feelings. We don't have to agree - but it's important to remember that 30 different people can have 30 different opinions and no one has to be wrong.
Thanks,
Pete
...And all I have left to say is.... I heart Pete!!! :love:
SoScary'09
11-15-2008, 10:28 AM
I hate election years. All it does is divide everybody every four years=_='
But on a lighter note, yes, I voted for the first time this year. Issues aside, my vote was for Obama. Since I actually got past my skepticism of politics to go vote for him, he'd better do a good job lol :)
Decorated_Dust
11-15-2008, 11:27 AM
I hate election years. All it does is divide everybody every four years=_='
But on a lighter note, yes, I voted for the first time this year. Issues aside, my vote was for Obama. Since I actually got past my skepticism of politics to go vote for him, he'd better do a good job lol :)
We're only divided every four years? Are you sure about that? Then again, I'm in college. People are always arguing. :laughing:
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