Saved people money

[yasuern]

Recently rented out points for $9.50/pt - I started at $11/pt - but as the stock market fell I lowered my point rate.


I figured out that on 6 reservations I made all together it saved WDW goers - $7412.00


The actually cost via wdw would have been for all of them $11,858.00

through the boards total is $4,446.00


So if you know anyone thinking of going to WDW stear them to the rent trade board because even at $11/pt it's still a bargain! And I wish I knew about this prior to my 1st 3 trips to WDW.


Sue:goodvibes

[thesupersmartguy]

Congrats!

[Deb & Bill]

I sure don't think like you. I'm not that magnanimous. I'm not going to subsidize someone else's WDW vacation. If I rented my points, I'd stick to the $11 or $12 a point. But I don't rent my points; I use them myself. That's why I bought them.

By reducing your price, you lost out on over $700. Disney didn't lower their price; I don't really understand why you felt you needed to lower your price. I think a price that is too low devalues the product. But that's just my opinion.

Make sure you don't make another 16 or Disney will be after you as a commercial renter.

[hockeyprincess]

I think that was really great what you did. Times ARE tough right now, and to make a family's dream come true is great. How does anyone know.... I mean, this may be their ONE and ONLY trip to Disney World. Good for you....and as the saying goes, Pay It Forward, I'm sure those renters were very glad they could rent points fairly reasonable from you, and hopefully they will pay it forward in some way in their own life. The universe will take care of you, you wait and see...you'll get many good returns on what you have done. Kudos!

[DVCconvert]

Deb & Bill said: By reducing your price, you lost out on over $700. Disney didn't lower their price; I don't really understand why you felt you needed to lower your price. I think a price that is too low devalues the product. But that's just my opinion.


``And the Union workhouses?'' demanded Scrooge. ``Are they still in operation?''

``They are. Still,'' returned the gentleman, `` I wish I could say they were not.''

``The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?'' said Scrooge.

``Both very busy, sir.''

``Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,'' said Scrooge. ``I'm very glad to hear it.''

``Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,'' returned the gentleman, ``a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?''

``Nothing!'' Scrooge replied.

``You wish to be anonymous?''

``I wish to be left alone,'' said Scrooge. ``Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.''

``Many can't go there; and many would rather die.''

``If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides -- excuse me -- I don't know that.''

``But you might know it,'' observed the gentleman.

``It's not my business,'' Scrooge returned. ``It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!!''



Seeing clearly that it would be useless to pursue their point, the gentlemen withdrew. Scrooge resumed his labours with an improved opinion of himself, and in a more facetious temper than was usual with him.

[Deb & Bill]

So, DVCconvert, you know for a fact that the non-members who rented these points were poverty stricken families with no means of ever going to WDW without getting a cheap DVC reservation? Am I reading you correctly? :confused3

[DeeCee735]

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[drakethib]

Recently rented out points for $9.50/pt - I started at $11/pt - but as the stock market fell I lowered my point rate.


I figured out that on 6 reservations I made all together it saved WDW goers - $7412.00


The actually cost via wdw would have been for all of them $11,858.00

through the boards total is $4,446.00


So if you know anyone thinking of going to WDW stear them to the rent trade board because even at $11/pt it's still a bargain! And I wish I knew about this prior to my 1st 3 trips to WDW.


Sue:goodvibes

You are probably going to get some hits here on a "set price" for renting points. Don't worry about that. Since you paid for them what anyone else says is just noise in the background.

I have rented my for $5.00 before (it was a family deal).

As long as you are comfortable and or feel good on the price just ignore what everyone else says.

[castleri]

You are probably going to get some hits here on a "set price" for renting points. Don't worry about that. Since you paid for them what anyone else says is just noise in the background.

I have rented my for $5.00 before (it was a family deal).

As long as you are comfortable and or feel good on the price just ignore what everyone else says.

Absolutely right

[yasuern]

Hi Everyone,


First thanks to all those who agreed that I may rent MY points at any price I wish -:thumbsup2


Deb & Bill

I have never been disliked by someone who has never met me before - you may not like what I did but me you don't even know me or WHY I did what I did.

Little background

I LOVE WDW my family and I have been going the 1st week in december since my dgt was in 2nd grade(now in 8th) - I would have been going this December except I found out in May I had Luekemia - long story short - I just had a bone marrow transplant in September and can not be in crowds or do much of anything until 100 days past transplant.

I rented my points to make alittle money until GOD WILLING the transplant works and in about 6 months I may return to work. When we bought our points one contract cost $72.00/pt direct from wdw (VWL) and then we purchased 2 resales both at OKW one at $62/pt and one at $67/pt we owe nothing on our contracts and really were just looking to make enough money to cover the yearly dues/fees .


If the richest person in the world got a bargain from me - well maybe thats why he/she has extra money;)


And finally my price per point - exactly HOW does this devalue the product?

When you are in the market to buy say a lawnmower are YOU going to pay the higher price so YOU don't devalue the product or are you going to look for the best price?



Didn't mean to make a thread with such contraversy - I had just never realized how much people save when renting and as my original post stated its a bargain even at $11-12/pt.



Sue:goodvibes

[Chuck S]

A reminder...rental agreements are negotiated between the owners and their renters. If an owner is pefectly happy with a lower price per points, that is fine. It does not devalue my DVC experience at all, and really has no affect on anyone else's DVC resort experience.

Sue, I'm sure the families you rented to appreciated the "deal" and it sure beats losing or banking those points, plus it gave you a good feeling to help out others looking for a WDW vacation. I think it is great. It is no one else's business what you do with the points you own.

And I hope all goes well with the medical recovery.

If this thread deteriorates into a "minimum price per point" type discussion, it will be closed. It is fine to discuss and offer opinions, but soliciting others to agree to a minimum set price will not be allowed.

[Laneychris]

Hope you get well soon!

[bobbiwoz]

I hope the bone marrow transplant works as it should.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[Deb & Bill]

...I have never been disliked by someone who has never met me before - you may not like what I did but me you don't even know me or WHY I did what I did....

I guess you misunderstood. I never said or implied that I disliked you. I just don't like devaluing the DVC product by giving points away so cheaply. I really don't care much for renting, but DVC does allow it. And that's just my opinion.

[lizanne]

I sure don't think like you.

I don't know any of you and I don't want to get in the middle of this but I think you misread the post from Deb & Bill. It says I don't think like you not I don't like you.

I just wanted to wish you well.

[desmar9]

Yasuern, I think what you did was great (without even knowing the reason). I think that you probably made a difference in the kind of vacation that at least one of those people you rented to will be having. Your kindest will come back to you ten fold - best of luck to you and your family. :flower3:

[DisDaydreamer]

I imagine many of us have to, from time to time, rent out our points... maybe even sell them completely... to make up for lost income or other financial circumstances. I would have preferred the OP to have done this and not advertise it. Advertising it only serves to reduce the value for all of us.

Many people base their decisions on what has just happened, and you only need to look at the stock market to see what that leads to.

Like Deb... I see this information as a no-winner... Only serving to drag down our values further... I would say to the OP... Great job, glad you are willing to sacrifice to help another, but advertising it hurts.

I don't think this is a bad thing that has happened, but an unfortunate one.

[DVCconvert]

Advertising it only serves to reduce the value for all of us.


Since DVC has never, ever been billed as 'an investment' -- another viewpoint of the OP's actions could be one of a goal in attitude and action (when appropriate) elevating DVC's value thur it's owners own actions in the best of moral and ethical and "Disney like" standards. I find it difficult to see how such an action can be viewed in anyway demeaning to the underlying themes of "disney" which involve compassion, empathy and charity.

[DisDaydreamer]

Since DVC has never, ever been billed as 'an investment' -- another viewpoint of the OP's actions could be one of a goal in attitude and action (when appropriate) elevating DVC's value thur it's owners own actions in the best of moral and ethical and "Disney like" standards. I find it difficult to see how such an action can be viewed in anyway demeaning to the underlying themes of "disney" which involve compassion, empathy and charity.

Now... if I had just given my points away to charity, I could agree with you... I think you are trying to look at the situation through the best possible lenses. This was not a charitable contribution. I too would feel good about making another's vacaction come true, but this does not have anything to do with increasing the value of the resort or DVC. Happy camper.. yes.. elevating values... No.

Edit: Let me followup by saying I do agree with DVC never being billed as an investment. Unless someone decides they need or want to sell their contract it really isn't an issue. I think the rental value of our points has struggled to hold ground. This is the area where I see the market value taking a hit from this.

[lingber]

Best wishes to the OP. I think it is wonderful that you successfully rented your points and offset expenses during a time when you need to be focused on your health. :thumbsup2

[mfd25wife]

First off, I wish you well in your fight. I have a friend with it. She had to be very careful about germs. Take care of yourself and I do think it was nice to rent at that price.

Second, I am going to rent points to my best friend. Being they are in law enforcement, I know they do not have much excess. However, by me renting them points, it is probably the only way they can go especially to stay on site. They love animals so AKL is perfect for them. We are actually going also so it will be a lot of fun, I hope. Can you give me a range you would rent. I think I read normally, it is $11-$12, but if it was a really close friend of 25 yrs or so, what would you do? Would it change anything? She, nor her husband expect anything. They are just telling me to let them know. I am thinking it would be nice to make some off our available points (for MF)and give them a chance to take the girls to the world. Thanks!!!

[Deb & Bill]

First off, I wish you well in your fight. I have a friend with it. She had to be very careful about germs. Take care of yourself and I do think it was nice to rent at that price.

Second, I am going to rent points to my best friend. Being they are in law enforcement, I know they do not have much excess. However, by me renting them points, it is probably the only way they can go especially to stay on site. They love animals so AKL is perfect for them. We are actually going also so it will be a lot of fun, I hope. Can you give me a range you would rent. I think I read normally, it is $11-$12, but if it was a really close friend of 25 yrs or so, what would you do? Would it change anything? She, nor her husband expect anything. They are just telling me to let them know. I am thinking it would be nice to make some off our available points (for MF)and give them a chance to take the girls to the world. Thanks!!!

We have a friend who is a firefighter and we have taken him and his family twice. We don't charge him anything for the stay because we have a great time with them at WDW. But, if your friends insist on paying something, why not just charge them what your dues would be on those points? Say, $5 a point? Or what it might cost them for a value resort at the same time?

[katallo]

Yasuern,

I think what you did was very considerate and I'm sure the renters will have a great trip. With today's economy, it will be difficult for many to travel. Good luck with your treatment!

[Nikisha421]

in my world we refer to that as A RAK... random act of kindness...i hope that some day one comes my way...and you all should hope so....

[TinkrLiz]

Yasuern - good luck with everything. I'm keeping you in my prayers. I hope you will be healthy and can soon return to WDW with your family :grouphug:

[Disneypirate85]

I hope you get better and so sorry to hear bout your illness.

[drakethib]

Hi Everyone,


First thanks to all those who agreed that I may rent MY points at any price I wish -:thumbsup2


Deb & Bill

I have never been disliked by someone who has never met me before - you may not like what I did but me you don't even know me or WHY I did what I did.

Little background

I LOVE WDW my family and I have been going the 1st week in december since my dgt was in 2nd grade(now in 8th) - I would have been going this December except I found out in May I had Luekemia - long story short - I just had a bone marrow transplant in September and can not be in crowds or do much of anything until 100 days past transplant.

I rented my points to make alittle money until GOD WILLING the transplant works and in about 6 months I may return to work. When we bought our points one contract cost $72.00/pt direct from wdw (VWL) and then we purchased 2 resales both at OKW one at $62/pt and one at $67/pt we owe nothing on our contracts and really were just looking to make enough money to cover the yearly dues/fees .


If the richest person in the world got a bargain from me - well maybe thats why he/she has extra money;)


And finally my price per point - exactly HOW does this devalue the product?

When you are in the market to buy say a lawnmower are YOU going to pay the higher price so YOU don't devalue the product or are you going to look for the best price?



Didn't mean to make a thread with such contraversy - I had just never realized how much people save when renting and as my original post stated its a bargain even at $11-12/pt.



Sue:goodvibes

OP.

God Bless and I am sure you will do fine. We will keep you in our prayers.

To all

In regards to anything devaluing DVC, can we say the same about many things?

I am a DVC Owner and a Disney Stock Owner with a decent amount of shares but I won't be retiring off of them tomorrow.

Does the $100 off DVC members get off of an AP devalue my Disney Stock? Free Dining? Hotel Codes? How about offsite hotels, that is taking money away from Disney hotels and the bottom line which affects the stock. I could go on and on.

I bet if a car dealership had brand new 2009 Mercedes on sale for 25% of the MRSP no one would give a rats behind if it devalued another dealership or not, they would probably buy it if they were in the market for one.

Deb & Bill are really good people and have actually gave me some good advice in the past on the boards, but as you can tell renting does touch a nerve with many people. It used to touch a nerve with me as well to be honest with you, but I decided why should I be counting other peoples money. Some of the threads regarding the same topic have gotten down right brutal. Throw SSR in the mix and all hell usually breaks loose.

Public forums will get all kinds of responses, some you agree with and some you don't.

At the end of the day, until someone starts depositing money into your account, I wouldn't worry about what other people say as long as you are happy.

[chaoscent]

OP.

I am a DVC Owner and a Disney Stock Owner with a decent amount of shares but I won't be retiring off of them tomorrow.

Does the $100 off DVC members get off of an AP devalue my Disney Stock? Free Dining? Hotel Codes? How about offsite hotels, that is taking money away from Disney hotels and the bottom line which affects the stock. I could go on and on.

I bet if a car dealership had brand new 2009 Mercedes on sale for 25% of the MRSP no one would give a rats behind if it devalued another dealership or not, they would probably buy it if they were in the market for one.

Deb & Bill are really good people and have actually gave me some good advice in the past on the boards, but as you can tell renting does touch a nerve with many people. It used to with me to be honest with you but I decided why should I be counting other peoples money. Some of the threads regarding the same topic have gotten down right brutal. Throw SSR in the mix and all hell usually breaks loose.

Public forums will get all kinds of responses, some you agree with and some you don't.

At the end of the day, until someone starts depositing money into your account, I wouldn't worry about what other people say as long as you are happy.

You said this so well and so nicely. :goodvibes I don't know most of the people on most of the boards but sometimes the response do get down right brutal and I always feel bad for someone. But I read your post and said "they are right" Thanks for the words of wisdome.

to the OP - sending Pixie Dust your way and hoping someone "passes it forward to you" :wizard:
Penny:hippie:

[drakethib]

Now... if I had just given my points away to charity, I could agree with you... I think you are trying to look at the situation through the best possible lenses. This was not a charitable contribution. I too would feel good about making another's vacaction come true, but this does not have anything to do with increasing the value of the resort or DVC. Happy camper.. yes.. elevating values... No.

Edit: Let me followup by saying I do agree with DVC never being billed as an investment. Unless someone decides they need or want to sell their contract it really isn't an issue. I think the rental value of our points has struggled to hold ground. This is the area where I see the market value taking a hit from this.

Just a thought.

2 months ago gas was almost 4 bucks a gallon at a local fuel station. I filled up yesterday for $2.39 at the same station.

The gas was of the same quality on both occasions.

Same quality of gas, same pump. Heck I even used the same credit credit card to pay for it.

Should I have went to the cashier and demanded that she charge me $4.00 per gallon so that I not short change the credit card company the % of sale for use of their credit card, possibly help curb the sliding price of crude, help with the sales tax on fuel, not take away funding for exploratory drilling from the oil company?

I mean if we keep pay 4 buck a gallon, just think of all the good we could do.

Would anyone else done so?

Heck, I am hoping it is $1.99 next time I fill up.

[kato0627]

OP
I have no opinion on this discussion. I just wanted to wish you well in your post transplant recovery. I hope you are feeling strong and enjoying the fall weather. God Bless for a quick and speedy 100 days.:love:

[SamSam]

First off, I wish you well in your fight. I have a friend with it. She had to be very careful about germs. Take care of yourself and I do think it was nice to rent at that price.

Second, I am going to rent points to my best friend. Being they are in law enforcement, I know they do not have much excess. However, by me renting them points, it is probably the only way they can go especially to stay on site. They love animals so AKL is perfect for them. We are actually going also so it will be a lot of fun, I hope. Can you give me a range you would rent. I think I read normally, it is $11-$12, but if it was a really close friend of 25 yrs or so, what would you do? Would it change anything? She, nor her husband expect anything. They are just telling me to let them know. I am thinking it would be nice to make some off our available points (for MF)and give them a chance to take the girls to the world. Thanks!!!

When we have extended our points to very close friends, we had them pay $5.00 a point, which basically pays our annual dues. We loved having them go (we also went), there was no way they could have went at regular disney prices so it was worth it to us.

Yasuern, I wish you the very best. I have a dear friend who many years ago fought leukemia and is very healthy today (15 years later). I applaud you for giving someone else a bargain trip. I firmly believe in paying it forward; it just makes the world a little nicer place to be.