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Pea-n-Me
10-08-2008, 10:46 AM
This was brought up on another thread recently, and I found it fascinating because it was never something that I really thought too much about "consciously".

I realize now, though, that I, and many of us "amateurs" out there, do it a lot, and it really takes away from our pictures.

What brought it to mind today was looking for a picture for this week's photo contest. I have a nice picture of Captain Hook in front of Disney Wonder, but alas, I amputated his feet! :eek: :headache:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/paulandlinda/195_195_195.jpg

AndrewWG
10-08-2008, 11:04 AM
His hand seems to have been amputated as well. :lmao:

InsertWittyNameHere
10-08-2008, 11:10 AM
I read somewhere that cropping a portrait from anywhere below the knees isn't a good thing composition wise.

wenrob
10-08-2008, 11:51 AM
I did this last night. Youngest DD was in a somersault position and I got down on the floor to get it. I cropped her butt off. :rolleyes1 I actually was thinking of posting it here to see if anyone had any creative cropping ideas to try and save it.

AndrewWG
10-08-2008, 12:00 PM
What I have read is that you do not want to amputate any part of the arms or legs at a joint. I think that if you have to cut off anything, you want your pic to be above the elbow or knees. It is possible that some say it is ok that it is below the elbow or knees, but I think I like the look of above them better. It also brings the subject into more of a full frame that way.

MontanaZoo
10-08-2008, 12:43 PM
Wow, this is a really brutal thread.

Pea-n-Me
10-08-2008, 01:04 PM
His hand seems to have been amputated as well. :lmao:
Ha ha, at least I got the whole hook in the picture! :thumbsup2

I did this last night. Youngest DD was in a somersault position and I got down on the floor to get it. I cropped her butt off. I actually was thinking of posting it here to see if anyone had any creative cropping ideas to try and save it.
Let's see it, Wendy!

I was actually hoping people would post pictures so we could all learn from them.

I read somewhere that cropping a portrait from anywhere below the knees isn't a good thing composition wise.

What I have read is that you do not want to amputate any part of the arms or legs at a joint.
Hmm. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that. ?links

wenrob
10-08-2008, 01:36 PM
Let's see it, Wendy!
http://static.flickr.com/3075/2924965866_94887450fa_d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17273279@N02/2924965866/)

jann1033
10-08-2008, 02:40 PM
http://static.flickr.com/3075/2924965866_94887450fa_d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17273279@N02/2924965866/)
i don't think this really looks that bad since it kind of frames that cute little face but lets you know what you are looking at. butts are overrated:rotfl:

jann1033
10-08-2008, 02:44 PM
What I have read is that you do not want to amputate any part of the arms or legs at a joint. I think that if you have to cut off anything, you want your pic to be above the elbow or knees. It is possible that some say it is ok that it is below the elbow or knees, but I think I like the look of above them better. It also brings the subject into more of a full frame that way.

i am guessing you mean you might cut off someone mid thigh but not at the knee? or maybe like 1/2 way down the upper arm for a upper body type shot? i think much more cut off than that ( mid thgh) would look chopped off rather than intended..even if it wasn't;) i think it looks worse you you cut off like 1/2 a foot or hand or (no offense to P) 1/2 a boot sorry andy i guess is kipped over the part i highlighted when i edited it:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 I knew i read it somewhere before:rotfl: ;)

Pea-n-Me
10-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Wendy, I was thinking if you cropped the top 1/4 off, it might work better. (Tried to do it but your picture wouldn't upload for me. :confused3 )

AndrewWG
10-08-2008, 06:03 PM
i am guessing you mean you might cut off someone mid thigh but not at the knee? or maybe like 1/2 way down the upper arm for a upper body type shot? i think much more cut off than that ( mid thgh) would look chopped off rather than intended..even if it wasn't;) i think it looks worse you you cut off like 1/2 a foot or hand or (no offense to P) 1/2 a boot sorry andy i guess is kipped over the part i highlighted when i edited it:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 :rolleyes1 I knew i read it somewhere before:rotfl: ;)

Yeah, as I understand it, you don't want your picture to stop at someones knees or elbows. It just looks unnatural I guess. If given the option, you should crop to the upper thigh or arm (in my opinion) or the calf or forearm I suppose. Just not right at any joint like the knee or elbow. Seems strange, but try cropping some pics different ways and you can see a difference. I suppose this is also true of feet/ankles. Either have the whole foot or crop it up the calf a bit.

MarkBarbieri
10-08-2008, 07:14 PM
I've also been told that it is best not to cut off your subjects head. I know that for some people it seems like it would be a good idea, but composition rules say otherwise.

gruZ
10-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Next time you can, take a look at the pictures the photopass people take. I was speaking with one on a past trip, and if I remember correctly she said they purposely "amputate" the guests below the knees / above the ankles. For some reason they don't like to include feet in their pictures.

The exception to this is if a character is included in the picture, in which case they will sometimes include the full length shot.

wenrob
10-08-2008, 07:53 PM
Hmmm, I will have to go have a look at my photo pass pics.

Jann, lol, I agree butts are overrated!:lmao: Thanks for the nice comment on my little one.

Pea-like this? Or more?
http://static.flickr.com/3014/2925797648_3161d6bcf6_d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17273279@N02/2925797648/)

jann1033
10-08-2008, 08:29 PM
I've also been told that it is best not to cut off your subjects head. I know that for some people it seems like it would be a good idea, but composition rules say otherwise.
i think that entirely depends on how ugly they are, in some cases rules are meant to be broken

MontanaZoo
10-08-2008, 11:16 PM
Apparently I enjoy amputating...that sounds evil...

My soon to be ex-brother-in-law's arm....
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1072/1185172771_03c6039387.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/juliez_pics/1185172771/

My niece's legs...off with her head!
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1072/1187608646_f3c0e041cf.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/juliez_pics/1187608646/

My brother's torso (I really should have kept his other hand in frame, but his expression was so great, I was trying to tighten in on that)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1103/1185833371_9e7b7c1ebb.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/juliez_pics/1185833371/

brack
10-09-2008, 04:21 PM
There is a general "rule of thirds" for cropping photos of people. You can Google this for specifics.

Shan-man
10-09-2008, 05:47 PM
http://static.flickr.com/3075/2924965866_94887450fa_d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17273279@N02/2924965866/)

I d/led your very cute pic and found that a square crop works quite nicely. It gets rid of background distractions on the left and dead space on the right and emphasizes the tightness of the composition (a good thing, I think). I think the closeness of the shot makes it more adorable than seeing the whole body.

Michele
10-10-2008, 09:40 AM
What I have read is that you do not want to amputate any part of the arms or legs at a joint. I think that if you have to cut off anything, you want your pic to be above the elbow or knees. It is possible that some say it is ok that it is below the elbow or knees, but I think I like the look of above them better. It also brings the subject into more of a full frame that way.

I found some examples of this in the Homecoming pics I took last weekend. This pic cut off above her knees

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n207/moodymom44/IMG_2548-1.jpg

looks much better than this one at her knees.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n207/moodymom44/IMG_2549.jpg

AndrewWG
10-10-2008, 11:01 AM
I found some examples of this in the Homecoming pics I took last weekend. This pic cut off above her knees

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n207/moodymom44/IMG_2548-1.jpg

looks much better than this one at her knees.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n207/moodymom44/IMG_2549.jpg

It does look alot better. It also helps to tightly crop the subjects, but the whole knee thing on a tightly cropped shot would still be bothersome for some reason. I like the crop that you did. It looks more correctly composed.

pxlbarrel
10-10-2008, 05:09 PM
My brother took a photo of Aladdin and myself a few years back. He amputated half my body....the left half. <sigh> If I can find that photo, I'll post it.

I find some of the Disney Photopass photographers are the worst at amputations.

Shan-man
10-10-2008, 05:17 PM
Here is the pic cropped square. I think it is a substantial improvement. What do you think?

http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w359/SLSettles/Web%20Graphics/PeekabooSquare.jpg

pxlbarrel
10-11-2008, 10:22 AM
I've also been told that it is best not to cut off your subjects head. I know that for some people it seems like it would be a good idea, but composition rules say otherwise.

Ha! A while ago, my parents, brother and I went on a rather momentous trip. As usual, I was doing all the photography and video taping. At point, as we were climing a heck of a lot of stairs towards a tourist trap of a Bhuddist temple, I gave my video camera to my dad. I told him that I wanted to show that I was actually on this vacation and here I am climbing all these steps. So he videotaped me....

Got home, plunked the tape into the machine and there I was...or rather...my FEET climbing up those steps. He neglected to videotape the rest of my body ascending...just my feet. Good advert for Reebok but did absolutely nothing to prove I was there. :rotfl: