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inkkognito
10-03-2008, 02:10 PM
The stellar parents were out last night. Saw mom, dad, son and daughter and the poor daughter was absolutely, utterly freaking out. Apparently they had made it through the line to the entrance of one of the soundstage houses and she flipped. It wasn't that minor "I'm just kinda scared" crying but full throttle "I'm terrified and need to get out here" freaking. They were trying to pressure her to go in...uh, duh! If she's scared just by looking in the door, how is she going to react when she's in the darkness with scareactors jumping out at her? And if they have to stop and remove her, it spoils things for everyone else around their family.

Why do people have to try to force their kids? I know they paid the money, but maybe they should have used a little common sense. And if their child is freaking out, a good parent just "eats" the money and doesn't try to guilt or force the kid into going along. Heck, I was immune to almost any kind of scary stuff from toddler age on due to my family's penchant for Halloween, horror movies, etc. but even I had a meltdown once. They took me to the Chamber of Horrors at the Old Town wax museum, and for some reason I had a total meltdown. Granted, I was maybe only 4 but I still don't know why it scared me since I generally loved scary stuff. Thankfully my family just removed me and didn't try to force me through...I guarantee there was nothing they could have said to calm me down.

I saw a couple people with babies in strollers heading to the soundstage houses too. I can only hope they were going to do child swap. :rolleyes:

Jason71
10-03-2008, 02:36 PM
I totally agree, see this every year. But while it doesn't excuse bad parenting, Universal shares some of the blame for not imposing and enforcing an actual age restriction on the event.

lachica
10-03-2008, 02:44 PM
Universal shares some of the blame for not imposing and enforcing an actual age restriction on the event.

How can the park restrict the age of the child, considering I know some kids that can cope with the scare factor better then some adults. As far as the shows thats is up to the parent's discretion.

donaldduck352
10-03-2008, 03:57 PM
How can the park restrict the age of the child, considering I know some kids that can cope with the scare factor better then some adults. As far as the shows thats is up to the parent's discretion.

Me personaly donn't think any kid under 13 should attend.IMO

I wated till mine was 14 to bring them and some of the things we saw were still questionable for a 14yo.....

hack2112
10-03-2008, 09:55 PM
My first year was HHN XIV and I had just turned 12. We only did 4 houses and the B&T show, but it got me hooked and this is my 5th HHN to date. So age usually doesn't matter, but under 10 is a little pushing it.

inkkognito
10-03-2008, 10:15 PM
It's a fine line...I know that both my brother and I would have loved HHN even at a young age, but that doesn't hold true for everyone. Parents need to know their kids well enough to have an idea of they would react, no matter what their age is. I've seen some relatively young kids go through the houses and have a blast. The poor little girl I saw freaking out was maybe around 10 or so. I can't imagine that the parents had no clue that it might scare her...if not, they sure don't know their kid very well.

Subi WRX
10-04-2008, 03:09 AM
How much clearer can "WARNING! THIS EVENT MAY BE TOO INTENSE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN" be? That admonishment is all over the place.

If your kid is scared or disturbing others, remove them from the situation. It's not that hard. Losing money due to a child's meltdown is just part of parenthood.

Metro West
10-04-2008, 04:39 AM
How much clearer can "WARNING! THIS EVENT MAY BE TOO INTENSE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN" be? That admonishment is all over the place.

If your kid is scared or disturbing others, remove them from the situation. It's not that hard. Losing money due to a child's meltdown is just part of parenthood.I agree...Universal has done everything they can do to let people know it's not for kids. Other than restricting certain ages, I don't know what else they can possibly do. It's up to the parents.

hack2112
10-04-2008, 08:21 AM
In my parents' defense, I was the one who wanted to go.

imwithgoofy
10-04-2008, 10:14 AM
I agree, it's up to the parents to know their child(ren) and make the decision, can they handle it, is it appropriate.

Be the parent...it is not fun to scare the **** out of your child. It also affects the other people around you. It kinda spoils your own fun, temporarily.

We did not see too many younger children. Mostly young teenage girls, running and screaming...

the Dark Marauder
10-04-2008, 10:53 AM
I agree...Universal has done everything they can do to let people know it's not for kids. Other than restricting certain ages, I don't know what else they can possibly do. It's up to the parents.

They don't sell children's tickets. That's a huge indicator, aside from the obvious warnings. Some kids can handle the scary & gory stuff, others, notsomuch. I explained to a few children (under age 12) what the house was about and they got really excited and had a great time.

Phil from PA
10-05-2008, 03:05 PM
How can the park restrict the age of the child, considering I know some kids that can cope with the scare factor better then some adults. As far as the shows thats is up to the parent's discretion.

In the same way they can prevent children under 17 from getting into a NC-17 movie. I would imagine it is more profitable for US to allow parents to use there discretion and just deal with the problems on a case by case basis when they arise.

Do you think US refunds money to families who leave if it is too intense.

Phil from Pa

Hollywoodhaha
10-05-2008, 03:08 PM
I am 15 and I am not going as I get scared easily. I would cry in line most likely. I can handle the movies and stuff but in real life .. no.

4greatboys
10-06-2008, 08:01 AM
We were there 10/3 and 10/4 and saw quite a few kids, little kids. I saw a couple with 2 babies and a 2-3 year old. Some others were definately under 10. :rolleyes:

I don't understand why they do that to their kids. My 8 yr old loves scary stuff like me but there is no way he is going now. Maybe in 2-3 years but I will just have to see then.

DeblovesPoohbear
10-06-2008, 09:26 AM
My husband and I did HHN, but it was in 2002, we loved it but we went
alone, it was our trip away from the kiddies :)

Now, my kids are only 5 and 8 and I will not even think about taking them til they are both old enough to handle it. I do NOT want them sleeping in my
bed for the next year :lmao:

DeblovesPoohbear
10-06-2008, 09:27 AM
On another note, I think these parents do not do enough research.

They probably think it's the same as any Six Flags Halloween Festivities
which is really for any age
I really don't think they realize how intense HHN is
JMO

Melanie230
10-06-2008, 10:14 AM
I am with ya on this one. We were there for HHN Oct 2 and opted out of going because we KNEW it would scare our children too much. We could have gotten FREE HHN tickets but knew better than to take a 6 and 9 yr old

BigTiggerGuy
10-06-2008, 01:56 PM
I went on October 2nd and couldn't believe what I saw. We were waiting in Finnegan's and there was a family in there....looked like mom and dad, an uncle(or older friend) and two little girls about 4 and 6. My one friend kept saying, "They can't be here for HHN with those kids. No way." Sadly, I disagreed and was right.
They left Finnegans ahead of us and we didn't see them again until we exited Creatures(the first house open after Stay and Scream). The two girls were outside the exit sobbing hysterically while mom tried to tell them the people in the house "didn't mean to scare them.....they were just playing." The dad and uncle/friend just kept walking and went to get a beer. Almost everyone walking past verbally expressed sympathy for the two girls but their parents just didn't get it. I didn't see them again until later in the night when the two girls were standing outside of Reflections of Fear-------ALONE! I looked around but didn't see the parents anywhere. Someone in our group went up to them and they said their parents would be right back. We stood off to the side while we waited for one of our friends to use the bathroom so we could also keep an eye on the girls. Sure enough, about 5 minutes later, Mom, Dad and Uncle/Friend came walking out of Reflections of Fear. Before we could even say something they scooped up the girls and headed around the corner. I never did see them again that night but I hope the girls were okay.

If anyone was coming or going from Creatures around 6:30pm on October 2nd you had to have seen them. The one kid was sobbing! Very sad.....

4greatboys
10-06-2008, 03:01 PM
I went on October 2nd and couldn't believe what I saw. We were waiting in Finnegan's and there was a family in there....looked like mom and dad, an uncle(or older friend) and two little girls about 4 and 6. My one friend kept saying, "They can't be here for HHN with those kids. No way." Sadly, I disagreed and was right.
They left Finnegans ahead of us and we didn't see them again until we exited Creatures(the first house open after Stay and Scream). The two girls were outside the exit sobbing hysterically while mom tried to tell them the people in the house "didn't mean to scare them.....they were just playing." The dad and uncle/friend just kept walking and went to get a beer. Almost everyone walking past verbally expressed sympathy for the two girls but their parents just didn't get it. I didn't see them again until later in the night when the two girls were standing outside of Reflections of Fear-------ALONE! I looked around but didn't see the parents anywhere. Someone in our group went up to them and they said their parents would be right back. We stood off to the side while we waited for one of our friends to use the bathroom so we could also keep an eye on the girls. Sure enough, about 5 minutes later, Mom, Dad and Uncle/Friend came walking out of Reflections of Fear. Before we could even say something they scooped up the girls and headed around the corner. I never did see them again that night but I hope the girls were okay.

If anyone was coming or going from Creatures around 6:30pm on October 2nd you had to have seen them. The one kid was sobbing! Very sad.....


Wow. I just cannot believe some parents. It's bad enough to take the kids in the first place but to just leave them alone while ALL the adults went through the house at the same time is sickening. Poor kids.

inkkognito
10-06-2008, 03:42 PM
Sounds to me like the Orange County dept. of family services needed to come out and pick up the "abandoned" kids...definite child abuse.

Metro West
10-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Wow. I just cannot believe some parents. It's bad enough to take the kids in the first place but to just leave them alone while ALL the adults went through the house at the same time is sickening. Poor kids. :sad2: :sad2:

DeblovesPoohbear
10-07-2008, 05:48 AM
I went on October 2nd and couldn't believe what I saw. We were waiting in Finnegan's and there was a family in there....looked like mom and dad, an uncle(or older friend) and two little girls about 4 and 6. My one friend kept saying, "They can't be here for HHN with those kids. No way." Sadly, I disagreed and was right.
They left Finnegans ahead of us and we didn't see them again until we exited Creatures(the first house open after Stay and Scream). The two girls were outside the exit sobbing hysterically while mom tried to tell them the people in the house "didn't mean to scare them.....they were just playing." The dad and uncle/friend just kept walking and went to get a beer. Almost everyone walking past verbally expressed sympathy for the two girls but their parents just didn't get it. I didn't see them again until later in the night when the two girls were standing outside of Reflections of Fear-------ALONE! I looked around but didn't see the parents anywhere. Someone in our group went up to them and they said their parents would be right back. We stood off to the side while we waited for one of our friends to use the bathroom so we could also keep an eye on the girls. Sure enough, about 5 minutes later, Mom, Dad and Uncle/Friend came walking out of Reflections of Fear. Before we could even say something they scooped up the girls and headed around the corner. I never did see them again that night but I hope the girls were okay.

If anyone was coming or going from Creatures around 6:30pm on October 2nd you had to have seen them. The one kid was sobbing! Very sad.....

Oh My,that is not good :sad2:
With all the nuts in the world, they leave their VERY YOUNG children alone
while they go and enjoy the festivities, that ticks me off :mad:

keishashadow
10-07-2008, 07:18 AM
Im thinking there r parents who bring kiddos both out of ignorance/lack of planning & not being able to find childcare in a strange town.

U could offer either of the following & possibly make a profit on the services:

*onsite childcare (perhaps in an empty soundstage...show them movies, crafts, etc.:confused3 even rent out movie theater & show Spongebob nonstop...whatever).

*if a bit too ambitious, why not hookup with any of the babysitting services in MCO that offer to come to the hotel to watch the kiddos & offer said services on the U site or even a package deal?

ps im familiar w/the babysitting services offered @ HHN not quite what i was envisioning as they r limited as to the # of children they can accommodate

lorax123
10-07-2008, 08:20 AM
On another note, I think these parents do not do enough research.

They probably think it's the same as any Six Flags Halloween Festivities
which is really for any age
I really don't think they realize how intense HHN is
JMO

I agree with you this is the most likely case!
How many people obsessively plan their trips, like all of us on the boards? Not a whole lot!

Since I've never gone to HHN with children, do they let parents child swap?

Now that we have two rugrats, it would be hard trusting complete strangers in a different town to watch our children. That's why I'd rather leave them home on a HHN trip. But they'd be po'd if we went to Floridacwithput them now that they have been there!

ADP
10-07-2008, 09:35 AM
I guess I kind of consider HHN a rated R event. The same rules of a rated R movie apply. At least that is how I view it; others may disagree.

the Dark Marauder
10-07-2008, 06:37 PM
I guess I kind of consider HHN a rated R event. The same rules of a rated R movie apply. At least that is how I view it; others may disagree.
PG 13, pushing R.

4greatboys
10-07-2008, 09:28 PM
PG 13, pushing R.


:thumbsup2

andromedaslove
10-09-2008, 07:06 AM
I think Universal tries to keep it PG13... however some of the guests definately make it closer to the R rating which is why mine won't go until they are at least teenagers. We went with a group of friends on Oct 3rd and one of the guys we were with is a Sailor and definately embodies all stereotypes of Sailors. The language, the attitude, etc... There were many times I just walked away from the group so that I wouldn't be associated with the way he was acting. I think sometimes people forget how other park goers act at this event. There's alot more to it than just the scare zones and haunted houses, it is a VERY adult environment.

keishashadow
10-09-2008, 07:24 AM
hey, my DH is an ex sailor, yet he cleans up well & has managed to fit into society:laughing:

not directed to above poster as a flame & not to rain on anybody's parade, yet since when does adult = sloppy drunk/excessive profanity...im just saying:rolleyes1

im all for partying hearty:thumbsup2 , evidently, some peeps feel having a good time = infringing upon other's experience(s); guess that's why they have extra security in place

andromedaslove
10-09-2008, 08:33 AM
I completely agree. I have known many "Sailors" that didn't feel the need to fit the stereo types as this one does. My DH and I both felt like we were babysitting a bunch of crazy college kids, and we're all almost 30 years old now. It was ridiculous, and the sad part is.... they weren't drinking much at all. Next time we'll pick our more mature friends to go with us, and enjoy ourselves much more. Even though it is an "adult" event, doesn't mean that people have to get sloppy drunk and/or act like jerks. I was drinking Jager Bombs all night and managed not to get even slightly drunk, and was able to compose myself. I just know that not everyone is able to, or wants to do that and it makes it for a VERY not kid friendly place.

inkkognito
10-09-2008, 09:48 AM
I think Universal tries to keep it PG13...
I dunno about that...just look at Rocky Horror. The cast encourages the audience participation, and much of that is definitely R (lots of F-word, innuendo, etc.). And Jack's show last year, which was right out on a public stage...definitely R.

Steady Riot
10-09-2008, 06:25 PM
People just need to look at the site and get their information right before they go... it straight up says, This event may be too intense for small children, they dont offer child tickets, i just dont understand why parents would bring such young kids to the event, i know i would have been upset had my parents made me go to it at a very young age, i hated haunted houses when i was little, still kinda do haha, but HHN looks too good to pass up, it looks absolutely amazing :thumbsup2 but still... they shouldnt even bring them to this, and leaving them alone while they go into a house? unacceptable! :mad:

Purseval
10-09-2008, 07:24 PM
My kids were pretty young the first time they went but they had been to Spooky World in Massachusetts and a few other haunted houses before that so they not only had an idea what to expect they were looking forward to it. My daughter who wasn't the least bit intimidatd by haunted houses about wet herself at Alien Encounters, she was crying by the time she got out. It was unexpected, that seems to be the key.

Timmy Boy
10-10-2008, 11:47 AM
Well obviously those parents didn't do their research. Maybe they thought it was like Disney's event? I wonder if they went to complain to Guest Services about the event being too scary if they would get their money back... not sure on that one. I'm sure it would depend how long they were there and what all they did.

inkkognito
10-10-2008, 01:42 PM
I wonder if they went to complain to Guest Services about the event being too scary if they would get their money back... not sure on that one.
Personally I think the appropriate response from Guest Services would be, "You say HHN is too scary for your kids? Thanks for the compliment...that's just how it's supposed to be...now don't let the door hit your rear on the way out."

LEANNE1302
10-10-2008, 02:28 PM
Last year I was one of those "bad" parents. We were over from the UK for our first halloween visit and had all been looking forward to going to HHN. Unfortunately, my son who was 10, who had wanted to go to HHN, didnt like the house we went into and was understandably scared. We didnt push him to go into the house he wanted to see if he could do it, but after 1 (thankfully) he decided he didnt want to go to anymore. he had a ball at Bill & Ted and watching the Rocky Show and the Jack show despite not getting some of the content contained in it. He did have a bad experience with one of the scareactors though.

In hindsight I wouldnt take any child under 14 maybe 15 to HHN and when we were there, people had babies in prams which was just wrong. I personally think for this event US should bring in an age limit, but that's just my opinion I know every person is different.

Nainolaf
10-14-2008, 08:18 AM
Us too, we took our DD8 last year but in our defence she is the type of child who enjoys scary things! As a young child my father owned a video store so I was brought up watching all the 'scary' films, Friday 13th/Halloween/Nightmare On Elm st etc so I suppose im a bit 'immune' to them now, my DD is the same, she has 3 elder sisters so has seen most of the horror movies about!! She absolutely LOVED HHN:scared1: :scared1: so much, she made us buy tickets for a 2nd night to go again! It ended up my DD and myself doing the houses as my D Fiance was too scared!:rotfl:
We also took her to MNSSHP which she enjoyed but not nearly as much!
I do agree though that no child should be forced through these things! I showed my DD the website before going and told her that anytime she wanted to leave we would go!

hack2112
10-14-2008, 08:58 AM
If the child wants to go, you are not a bad parent. That's the only reason my parents went in 2004, because I wanted to.

Anyway, when I was at HHN Friday night, there was a little kid not older than five or six years old, who had one of those light stick things, going through Scary Tales right in front of me. He seemed like he was having a good time pointing at the scareactors. He almost stabbed Alice in her scene. He was cute though.

darrellynn
10-14-2008, 09:24 AM
Thankyou all, I am bringing the grandkids for there 10th birthday 10/28 we are staying at RPR, but we are going to seaworld for oct 31st, You people dont know how helpful you all have been. I do not want the poopoo scared out of them, so we will go to universal in the daytime and do other things at night.... Thankyou:surfweb:

soluc
10-15-2008, 09:38 AM
We just got back yesterday and didn't go near HHN, No way!! Even the short clip they showed (on TV and video screen outside US) disturbed my 9yr old, in fact even some of the props in US scared him..lol (yes he gets scared easily)

We found lots of other stuff to do after the parks closed; Blue Man Group, Dive in movie etc & had an awesome time!


I'd say, if you are a parent who is even a little bit concerned about the scare factor for your children, then "don't buy tickets for HHN"! Do something else at night!

Blue Man Rocks!!