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Purseval
09-29-2008, 12:16 PM
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1968291

The lady must either be dreaming or somehow a USF thug family managed to infiltrate WDW because nothing less than wonderful behavior ever takes place in the Happiest Place On Earth :laughing:

alycia23
09-29-2008, 12:51 PM
I love how some people can criticize you for your parenting skills or mental heath by seeing maybe 10 mins of your day. My 2 year old cries non stop through out the day from the time her father and siblings are off in the morning, until the time they all come home, and I just let her. There is nothing to console her, until daddy comes home. He scoops her up and all is fine in the world (did I mention she is a daddy's girl, and apparently has abandonment issues). This happened at WDW when Hubby took the other two on rides. I just let her cry. I got so many "looks" and I am sure some one posted about me some where on here. By no means am I a bad mother, or a danger to my child. Many people had snide comments to say (more so when we were at WDW than at USO, the most helpful people were at USO). If you are not aware of the situation, or the kids history please but out.

This is the post I was referring to

We were at AK having lunch and a mother sat down with her two young children (1ish and 3ish) The baby was crying and crying. She left him screaming in the highchair. Then she tells the 3 year old to come sit on her lap since "you're not crying like this brat". The baby continues to scream untill the father comes. He picks up the baby... and the baby instantly stops crying and falls asleep in father's arms. The mother just seemed cruel.


Yes maybe the mother should not have called the baby a brat.

Purseval
09-29-2008, 01:55 PM
The incident at WDW was a bit more than a crying child. Apparently the kid was sick and momma went off the deep end. Here we are taught that Disney mommas don't do that, they whistle a happy tune and wait for the bluebird of paradise to deliver a miracle cure. Only Universal mommas go ballistic. It's a culture thing, ya know?

MsDisney
09-29-2008, 02:17 PM
I agree, 10 minutes of a persons day does not give the whole picture. This is scary is some cases, however. When a parent openly tells their child in public that they are going to beat the crap out of them (or they do), then that is simply WAY over the top. I'm not one to judge and criticize, but I have learned areas where I need help and I can see someone going through that and see that they clearly need help, for everyone's sake. If I really was in a spot and a child was clearly being threatened, I'd step in. Just because a person gives birth doesn't mean they have a claim to beat or otherwise abuse a child as some seem to think. (not directed at you, Alycia!) That incident was abuse, or very close to it and that they acted that way with an audience really does warrant concern for how they must act in the privacy of their own home. All of us would act differently if we thought we were being broadcast live on TV, but those who ARE acting that way, even in front of the world, must have some real inner struggles they need real help with. IMO. Maybe these incidents unleash something within (sleep deprivation, stress, money flowing out of you like a river) and some people really react poorly for the first time. Hopefully if this happens to someone, they will be so horrified as they look at the incident outside of themselves, they will be motivated to get help to change. Sadly, this is probably the exception rather than the rule, most often.

As for a child crying...I had to let my child cry, when he was a baby, or he would never have learned to sleep! In public, this gets tricky tho as the rest of us simply don't want to listen to someone's child cry incessantly. I see many parents who are at a show, a restaurant, (or at the movies) who just ignore their crying child, thus ruining the experience for those around them. There is a reason a child cries and a reason God gave that noise a real edge! But, if you have no other choice than to let your child cry, so long as we don't have to listen to it (like if you do your best to remove the child from crowded areas/shows/attractions), None of us should judge (of course, many make a sport out of judging others). That is more of a courtesy thing than a parenting thing. Nothing I hate more than a child who cries and gets what they want! :rolleyes1 (for this I may pass judgement!)

For sure, both Disney and Universal parents have less than stellar moments, (myself included) the ones who truly care see that and try their best to not repeat them. Again, just my humble opinion.

Karen

DisneyTN
09-29-2008, 03:41 PM
I agree....sorta. When parents are in a public place (heavy emphasis on the word Public*), they should have the common sense to realize that many of the other people around them just might not want to be drowned out by a screaming child. When I hear a parent say "I just had to let my child cry..." in regards to a public situation, to me that shows selfishness on the part of the parent, and little or no regard to the people around them. When you are in your own home or your own car, sure, let your child cry it out as long as they need. But this practice in a public setting not only shows how na´ve you are as a parent, but how little you care about others around you. This is such a burden in movie theaters, airplanes, restaurants, you name it. I never blame the child when this happens, but the highly inconsiderate and self-centered parents.
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out how to get up, take your child away from the crowd, and calm him/her down in an appropriate manner (or just let them "cry it out") away from others.
Threatening abuse of any kind toward your child, whether in public or in private, is completely inexcusable.

gelfling
09-29-2008, 03:43 PM
I didn't see any reference to USO in any of those posts.

I would've been upset if I witnessed that behavior as well. Threatening to beat up your child and cursing at them is psychologically damaging to that child. If that's what the parent is doing in public I shudder to think about how the child is treated in private.

There's also a serious difference between having trouble getting your child under control during a temper tantrum and threatening them with violence. Even "good" kids have difficult moments, so it's not hard to sympathize with a parent who has a child who is behaving in an unruly manner, provided they don't verbally, physically, or emotionally abuse the child.

Purseval
09-29-2008, 05:17 PM
I didn't see any reference to USO in any of those posts.

It's something that has been going on in these forums for ages, you'll pick up on it after hanging out here a while.

gelfling
09-29-2008, 05:24 PM
I've been a lurker around here for over a year. I've seen it myself, and it's remarkably stupid.

However, there was nothing in that particular post that mentioned USO. *shrugs*

Purseval
09-29-2008, 05:30 PM
I've been a lurker around here for over a year. I've seen it myself, and it's remarkably stupid.

However, there was nothing in that particular post that mentioned USO. *shrugs*

Well if you've been hanging out that long you should know that the type of behavior mentioned in her post Never happens at WDW but, due to the thuggish nature of the typical USF patron it happens here quite frequently. You're right though, she didn't mention USF in her post I was being sarcastic.

gelfling
09-29-2008, 05:44 PM
*sigh* I do know what you mean. The Walt Disney Company has sprinkled pixie dust over the whole of WDW, so jerks can never attend... And God knows that even buying a snowglobe is an Experience over at WDW.

Metro West
09-29-2008, 07:11 PM
*sigh* I do know what you mean. The Walt Disney Company has sprinkled pixie dust bubble over the whole of WDW, so jerks never attend, and God knows that even buying a snowglobe is an Experience over at WDW. :rotfl:

the Dark Marauder
09-29-2008, 07:15 PM
The thread must've been deleted...:confused3

Metro West
09-29-2008, 07:18 PM
The thread must've been deleted...:confused3Yup...it's gone.

Purseval
09-29-2008, 07:28 PM
Yup...it's gone.

See, I told you WDW mommas don't do that :rotfl2: :cool1: :rotfl2:

donaldduck352
09-30-2008, 05:32 AM
Did not take them long to get rid of it(the thread)Thats right its DW:lmao:

MsDisney
09-30-2008, 09:11 PM
See, I told you WDW mommas don't do that :rotfl2: :cool1: :rotfl2:


Must have gotten ugly so they pulled it. But, wait, do the Disney boards ever GET ugly? :rolleyes1 I picked up on your sarcasm right away, by the way. :teacher: I love Disney AND Universal, but they are all full of people, and people do some amazing and/or distasteful things, no matter where they are, is the reality of it. Seems like no matter where you go, if it's a vacation destination (especially for families) it should be sunshine and fairies all the time, but alas, it is not. :stitch2:


Karen / MsDis

Purseval
09-30-2008, 10:10 PM
I think what happened was there was a lot of the usual lecturing and pontificating going on until someone pointed out the fact that, in spite of all the high and mightyness, not one person stepped in to help the child or calm the mother down. It went downhill from there.