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Maleficent2
04-26-2002, 10:44 PM
As you all know I lost a computer to a Virus the week of April 15th.


Well I have another virus on the new computer this Virus is an email virus.

If anyone of you have received a email from janikaa@msn.com


Please run your virus scan now.


I do not know what else to tell you right now since Norton's is closed til Monday.

I do not know where this virus has come from but this is my primary email acct.and it seems I picked it up on 4-16.


I am so so sorry if you received a email from me with this virus.

I DO NOT open Attachments and MSN said you do not have to anymore.

I am so mad about this.

Will keep you updated as I find out more.


:mad:

Mal:eek:


UPDATE

DO NOT OPEN ANY MAIL FROM ME FROM ANY E-MAIL ADDY DO NOT OPEN ANY UNDEIVERABLE EMAIL RETURNED TO YOU

the Virus name is W32.Klez.gen@mm


here is a link
http://www.symantec.com/

will update more later

Mal

jennymouse
04-26-2002, 11:29 PM
I hate to hear this happening to you, I hope it's an easy one to fix. Thanks for the heads up too.

Tantor
04-27-2002, 06:03 AM
I too hope you can get this one fixed.....

dizneenut
04-27-2002, 07:08 AM
Sorry to hear you got another virus! :(
Hope you get it cleared up soon!

Beanie
04-27-2002, 09:07 AM
So sorry that happened again, Mal...On our computer, a little box pops up that says the email contains a virus and asks us if we want to proceed...

I hope you get it fixed soon!

Maleficent2
04-27-2002, 04:28 PM
and it said this virus was not found but it is what is showing up in my inbox??????


totaly confused will have to call Norton's Monday Morning.



Mal

figment27
04-27-2002, 05:08 PM
Sorry to hear of your computer woes.
I know what it feels like to get a nasty virus. I had one that contained three different HUGE files that almost ate up my entire hard drive.
My daughter's boyfriend, a comp sci major, was able to get into the "guts" of the hard drive and did some fancy fixing and all has been well
I am curious, did you want to buy a WHOLE new computer? When this virus hit me that was my initial concern. My daughter's boyfriend told me if he could not eliminate the virus, all I would have to buy is a new hard drive.
Good luck with containing the last virus. I can't undertand why people make these programs up and end them. I think it is so devious!
Figment

robinb
04-27-2002, 06:03 PM
My daughter's boyfriend told me if he could not eliminate the virus, all I would have to buy is a new hard drive.

This is not the case. There is no way a computer virus can physically ruin a hard drive. It can, however, make it unusable unless the hard drive is reformatted.

figment27
04-27-2002, 07:33 PM
robinb,
In my case, despite reformatting, the virus still existed. He said some remnants of a virus can still exist within one's hard drive even after reformatting. He had to rename something, like I said I am no computer genius, after the reformatting to further correct the damage done by this virus.
I am only repeating what I was told by this soon to be MIT grad. I don't want to open any debates, I just wanted to pass on what I was told.
Figmetn27

Maleficent2
04-27-2002, 08:08 PM
I am going to agree with Figment here.That is exactly what happen to my computer.We reformatted numerous times to no avail even did a FDISK several times nothing helped.

Figment I wanted a new computer anyway but also wanted to keep my old.Which you are right I will have to replace the harddrive.But I had to have a computer ASAP for Income Tax time.So I went right out and got one. NOW this.It is coming from one of the rewards programs I am sure but which one.But Milesource is one that I use this email addy with.


Which virus did you get?



Mal

jdads2
04-27-2002, 08:08 PM
Mal, Just to make your headache worse...if I did get the virus from you, can I sue you for a new computer?

OK, not really...good luck, I hope everything turns out OK.

figment27
04-27-2002, 08:35 PM
I am not sure which virus it was. I was so upset and thought sure the damage could not be repaired. John, my daughter's boyfriend, showed me these three little "smiley" faces once he got into the "bowels" of my hard drive. He identified these as the virus but I don't remember asking the name of it. I just can't believe people can be so mean as to intentionally attempt to destroy other people's property without provoacation.

I also agree about Milesource and viruses. My computer is recently giving me a lot of "this compute has performed an illegal procdure and will close down" messages, blues screens and freezing during my attempts to do the Milesource program especialy!
I have also had recent problems with my Norton Systemworks program, which includes Norton Antivirus. I occasionally get the message that the Norton Auto Protect is disabled but n the task bar when I right click on the icon it states it is enabled.
I have, once again, asked John, DD BF, what he thinks is going on. He thinks I may have gotten either another virus or two programs are in conflict. I will rely on his expertise to help me correct this also. Thank God, he is so willing to help me, I can't imagine how much all these repairs would be costing me if it were not for his help. But then again, he has my daughter by his side, so I think that is payment enough, don't you agree? LOL
Figment27

welovedis
04-28-2002, 08:06 AM
Thanks for the heads-up Mal. Hope things get resolved for you on Monday. I know DH has all 3 of our computers set up with three different AV and firewall systems, usually all the "problems" get by Norton though-makes me concerned for that program. Good luck & let us know what happens.

robinb
04-28-2002, 10:01 AM
I'm sorry that you are all having problems with viruses.

Boot sector viruses can be very, very nasty. Depending on the virus. fdisk usually takes care of things but sometimes the little buggers can hide and you need to take further corrective action. This can take a long time and maybe it's easier and cheaper to just replace to hard drive.

However ... I stand by my original statement that you don't have to replace the hard drive. It may be smarter to do so, but it's not a requirement :).

WDWBetsy
04-28-2002, 10:57 AM
Sorry to hear about your recent virus problems, Mal. I handle these type of things all the time at work. Most recently, our company has been hit by viruses/worms that don't have to be opened or clicked on. You can activate these things just by visiting an infected website or clicking on an e-mail message in your inbox. I usually have to see what the virus is detected as, and then investigate the "fix" on Norton's website.

Just a friendly reminder to everyone out there: be sure to have anti-virus software installed AND keep your virus definitions updated. It only takes a few minutes to do this, but it can save you a bunch of time and avoid problems later. The more often you do this, the less time it takes to download the definitions/updates each time.

I'm sure most of you already do this, but from my experience providing user support - many don't.

Good luck with fixing your computer! If you have any questions or need help, e-mail me and I'll do my best to help you!

Maleficent2
04-28-2002, 08:32 PM
I do keep up to date.Norton did not pick up either of these virus and I just ran the fix for the Virus MSN thought I had. Was not it or so it says.


Have to wait to call Norton's tomorrow.



Robin- I was not saying you were not correct in your statement but having already spent 25.00 to take the computer in I would rather put $75 in a new hard drive than to keep wasting money trying to fix this one.



Mal

OrlandoDisney
04-28-2002, 08:40 PM
Mal, if i dont MS Outlook, will i still get an email?

Tense
05-03-2002, 07:30 AM
I think I got the virus as well. About 2 weeks ago my computer just froze I couldn't even get it to got to the desk top. The only way I fixed it was to do a Factory reinstall and lose EVERYTHING!Now I'm having problems with connecting the printer, it keeps saying that it can't comunicate with the printer. I don't know... has this happened to anyone else?

Maleficent2
05-03-2002, 07:54 AM
Norton's did not detect anything....


Update on second computer

Concenus is that I did not get the virus had the virus emails in my inbox but computer was not infected.


So all is safe now as far as me sending out emails.



Mal

Cinders
05-03-2002, 08:53 AM
and it said this virus was not found but it is what is showing up in my inbox??????


Found this at Nortons since I received an email at my yahoo addy>> "Email spoofing
Some variants of this worm use a technique known as "spoofing." If it does this, it chooses at random an address that it finds on an infected computer as the "From:" address that it uses when it performs its mass-mailing routine. Numerous cases have been reported in which users of uninfected computers receive complaints that they have sent an infected message to someone else.

For example, Linda Anderson is using a computer that is infected with W32.Klez.E@mm; Linda is not using a antivirus program or does not have current virus definitions. When W32.Klez.gen@mm performs its emailing routine, it finds the email address of Harold Logan. It inserts Harold's email address into the "From:" line of an infected email that it then sends to Janet Bishop. Janet then contacts Harold and complains that he sent her infected email, but when Harold scans his computer, Norton AntiVirus does not find anything--as would be expected--because his computer is not infected.

If you are using a current version of Norton AntiVirus, have the most recent virus definitions, and a full system scan with Norton AntiVirus set to scan all files does not find anything, you can be confident that your computer is not infected with this worm."

Maleficent2
05-03-2002, 01:38 PM
thanks Cinders that must be what happen with me because I got a load of undeliverable email and MSN said I had this virus(KLEZ)but Nortons did not pick it up and I even did the Klez fix and nothing.So this computer is clean.Hopefully all emails are also.


I deleted my address book just in case.




Mal

MiknMinMouse
05-04-2002, 03:08 PM
I am the worst about virus protection and am wondering if that's what's happened to my computer. A few months ago my computer started freezing, doing the this program has peformed an illegal opperation thing and then finally it died. At first when I called HP they said it could be my AOL 7.0 so I had to do a complete disk recovery which erased EVERYTHING except what my computer came with. I lost a lot because there were so games on the computer and files that I can't get back. The recovery was supposed to clean up everything, well I am STILL getting the error drive messages and my computer goes into scan disk everytime I log on, it has never found anything so I just skip it now, but I"m wondering if all of this isn't the result of a virus. I've asked hubby to have someone come checkout the computer because we really can't afford a new system right now, the one we have is only 2 years old, just. Suggestions? And since I really think I need to get better at the virus protection thing, what's the best out there?

Thanks.