View Full Version : Free Dining - Had our fun, now we're done
planitdad
08-03-2008, 07:40 PM
Anyone else see the writing on the wall? We are going this year for FD, but it will most likely be our last. We hung on after the changes in 08 for one last hurrah, even upgrading to deluxe this year as a splurge. But enduring the heat, risking a hurricane, early park closings, rack rates, are all still there. While the once "free" is now in name only. What say you?
catne
08-03-2008, 07:42 PM
we'll be back...even if the FD next year is QS, we'd pay the $10 diff & upgrade to the regular plan. We'd probably go back in September or October even if there is NO Free Dining.
Don't mind the heat. Rack rates at values are cheap anyway. Crowds not as bad as summer or holidays.
Love the Mouse, regardless.:banana:
angiedora
08-03-2008, 07:45 PM
This will be out 3rd WDW trip. The free dining has lured us there each time.:love: We have never cruised before. We'll probably take a cruise for next year and maybe try Universal the year after that. Unless the free dinng calls to us again.......:rolleyes1
justplaingoofy
08-03-2008, 07:47 PM
I think it also depends on which resort you stay at...
I see a much bigger savings if you stay at a value or moderate.
If you book a package for a deluxe you might be better off going at another time. Late January into mid Feb. last year Disney offered a promo package of:
reduced room rate, park hopper, and water parks n'more for free when you book a base ticket. Especially now that park hoppers, etc are all higher
Alexander
08-03-2008, 07:53 PM
Truly the free dining is not a bargain unless you stay at a value or moderate resort. Paying rack rates for the deluxe resort negates any value of the free dining.
asmit4
08-03-2008, 08:01 PM
I still see value in the free ddp if you pick a value room. I don't see nearly as much value in a mod or a deluxe anymore.
The upgrade is gonna run 10/nt/pp. For this year- we are going during the free DDP and paying 93/nt in a value. We have 2 people in the room. So that's 75.98 'off'. Meaning the room is running 17.02 and the rest is 'free' which is food costs.
Next year if we do the same. The rate will most likely be more like 100/nt in a value. The 'free' ddp will be 59.98 off which = 40.02...BUT we have to pay to get the same 'ddp' so that adds in another 20 bucks per day....so the room cost is now 60 bucks per day....OR 40 for the room plus 20 for the food however you want to look at it. Is it a good value? Sure- but given what we are used to- having a bargain basement DW trip in Sept. isn't what it used to be. My mom and I are doing a 4 night trip this year for 900 bucks including park tickets, hotel and food. Not many places you can get top quality entertainment, good food and a decent place to sleep for 450/pp.
Maybe if you stuff 3 or 4 people in a value you could approach the 'old' 2008 savings but the free DDP is no longer an AMAZING deal like it has been in the past.
At this point I'm with a few others that have said they are going to consider elsewhere and skip DW for free DDP month. We are going to look into Universal and perhaps an all inclusive in Mexico.
I just can't see us dealing with Sept. weather for the 'free' DDP any more. It's not nearly the value as it has been.
LegoMom3
08-03-2008, 08:04 PM
I don't agree that "free" is now name only - we're a family of 5 so the "free" dining plan goes a loooong way for us! No room discount I've ever managed to find bests the Free Dining for us (I've never been lucky enough to get a 40% code/pin).
This will, though, probably be our last trip there for a while. As our kids get older, the appeal of Universal (and the countless other things to do and see in central Florida!) becomes greater.
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KatMark
08-03-2008, 08:55 PM
Since the hot weather doesn't bother us (we are from Chicago and winter here can last FOREVER), we always go to Florida in September to extend our summer. So we will stick with the free dining and stay at CSR again next year.
ShellyLynn3630
08-03-2008, 09:07 PM
We won't be going back in September anytime soon either. We are glad that we are going to get to experience probably the last free dining as it is now. I want to go back during cooler months, maybe early December. But I know the way the economy is that may not be for another 3 or 4 years!:sad1:
skater
08-04-2008, 09:38 AM
I knew that this wonderful free dining wouldn't last forever, but it sure is a bummer that changes are coming. (At least it looks that way). We've enjoyed the free dining promotion every year and its truly the reason we've returned each September. Its easy and it makes sense for our family of 5. And no it won't feel very free with another downgrade. I'm starting to think fondly of the room only codes that used to draw us down there :goodvibes .
Jubilee
08-04-2008, 10:00 AM
Lots of factors contributing to our decision as well. Not sure yet.
Peapicker
08-04-2008, 10:32 AM
I do not agree that free dining is not worth it with a deluxe resort. We are staying at AKL and paying rack rate ($225) per night. Now if we were to get free dining then that would be equal to us (3 adults) getting $120 worth of food per day, which we would spend (and more) anyways. So that is like paying $105 for the room and paying for the food. If we were to get a 40% discount we would still pay $135 for the room and have to pay out of pocket for all that food. So I still see it as a real bargin. Or am I missing something?
goofy4tink
08-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Well, we've been to WDW in August about three times...it's hot, incredibly humid. But, we know what to expect. This year, I had booked POP for my dd and myself so we could have a quick weekend to do Night of Joy. I booked a room only, with AAA. I booked our ADRs at the 180 day window. Then, the free dining came out.....we had our TA make the changed to the free dining plan. We got the one day base tickets. Dh aleady has an unexpire hopper with days left on it, dd had to get a new AP in any case (we'll use her one day ticket towards her new AP) and I always have a current AP.
When I did the math...comparing my room only rate (with AAA discount) and the cost of the meals I had booked, as well as the CS meals I would be eating in addition to my total room costs with free dining...well, for those three nights, it was $330 cheaper to do free dining....and that was even after my dh decided to join us!!!
Will I do it again? Probably not. I don't routinely travel to WDW in Sept...dd is going into high school now, and I don't want her to miss too much school. But, it is nice to take advantage of free dining this year.
Tink3Bell
08-04-2008, 10:45 AM
This will be out 3rd year for free dining - It's a hard call depending on which dining plan they offer with the bounceback. I would still like to go and my husband likes it too - it only took 3 years to convince him now he is planning for next year and I don't want to change his mind.
justplaingoofy
08-04-2008, 10:47 AM
I do not agree that free dining is not worth it with a deluxe resort. We are staying at AKL and paying rack rate ($225) per night. Now if we were to get free dining then that would be equal to us (3 adults) getting $120 worth of food per day, which we would spend (and more) anyways. So that is like paying $105 for the room and paying for the food. If we were to get a 40% discount we would still pay $135 for the room and have to pay out of pocket for all that food. So I still see it as a real bargin. Or am I missing something?
I do understand your point, however AKL is the least expensive Deluxe property Disney offers. So I think when you get into the higher priced properties there may be a savings. :)
DISNEYNY
08-04-2008, 12:41 PM
I will wait and see what happens. If the FDP is only for counter service I probably won't do it. Maybe the magical 40% off pin code will finally come my way. :surfweb:
christa112
08-04-2008, 12:47 PM
This is our last Free Dining promo we will be doing for a while. Like most of you, if we do plan on going back during Free Dining and it is the CS plan I will definately have to think long and hard about doing it. I really don't want to eat CS everyday of our trip. I guess we will all have to wait and see what they offer us.
beroh2253
08-04-2008, 01:03 PM
:cool1: :hippie: I think we would push the trip back to October and do more Universal and Sea World. We wouldn't be tied in to Disney restaurants for TS so we could explore restaurants in Orlando. Maybe more shore time also, there are beautiful beaches around Daytona. This could be a good thing maybe we are all in a rut coming to DW every year.:confused3
World Bouncer
08-04-2008, 02:12 PM
The oppinions will definately be different among everyone, because it totally depends on which type of resort you're staying at and how many people are in a room.
For us, we like the value resorts and the rack rate really isn't that bad at all.
With 4 of us in the room, even with the CS plan at $30 p/p, that is $120 worth of free food per day and the room don't even cost that.
There are 3 of us staying this year, and we are doing the deluxe. When it is all said and done, the amount of the cost for the food that we are getting, would actually cost more than the whole trip including air.
Yes, we are eating more expensive locations than we normally would since we are on the deluxe, but if Disney switched it around and said come to our parks and spend a certain amount per day on food and we will fly you here, give you a room, and a park hopper plus pass... would you say you are getting nothing free?
pooch
08-04-2008, 07:15 PM
2006 - whole family - We ate something like $1900 worth of free food that year - stayed at WL :love: :love:
2007 - DD & Me trip - about $800 this year - Pop Century - ok not so much but the rate was great!
2008 - DD said "OK, one more time!" - POFQ - rate is decent
2009 - promised the family we'd do the cruise thing for a while so I'd appreciate it if Free DDP was less attractive thanks!!!
I so enjoyed it while it lasted though!!!
TheRatPack
08-04-2008, 08:14 PM
2006 - whole family - We ate something like $1900 worth of free food that year - stayed at WL :love: :love:
2007 - DD & Me trip - about $800 this year - Pop Century - ok not so much but the rate was great!
2008 - DD said "OK, one more time!" - POFQ - rate is decent
2009 - promised the family we'd do the cruise thing for a while so I'd appreciate it if Free DDP was less attractive thanks!!!
I so enjoyed it while it lasted though!!!
LOL, your situation sounds like mine. We went in 2005 and LOVED it so much we couldn't pass it up in 2006 (although we had to end up cancelling that trip to save for our adoption). Then it was offered in 2007 and I booked 2 rooms (even though we didn't have any idea on how many children we'd be adopting or if we'd even have them by then) Then I said we wouldn't do it again, but before we could check out in 2007, we got the flyer on our nightstand to book before we checked out and FREE dining again....I had to do it. Now I've promised that we'll vacation on the beach this next year, while my oldest son attends a camp nearby.....but I have to be honest, if FREE dining is offered before check out, I won't be able to contain myself and I've set aside the down payment amount in our account before we check in, just in case LOL
beroh2253
08-04-2008, 09:29 PM
:cool1: :hippie: You are right if there is flier in our room like last year it would be hard to resist signing up right then again, and every year they would have us, I have to admit we are addicted, but if it is all CS then ??? The change probably would break the addiction.
rbramblett
08-05-2008, 12:07 AM
Anyone else see the writing on the wall? We are going this year for FD, but it will most likely be our last. We hung on after the changes in 08 for one last hurrah, even upgrading to deluxe this year as a splurge. But enduring the heat, risking a hurricane, early park closings, rack rates, are all still there. While the once "free" is now in name only. What say you?
When you're talking hot, how hot is that? I live in Colorado and it's been in the 100's. I know that the humidity makes a big difference, but am trying to plan the 1st trip and am undecided on the dates. Also, any thoughts on the 2 quick service, 2 snack dining options?:yay:
asmit4
08-05-2008, 08:54 AM
Plan on 90-95 degree days with humidity nearing 100%....sweltering...shockingly hot. It's nothing like a 95 degree day with 40% humidity. Keep in mind though that DW ride lines are almost always in the shade, and many have A/C through part of the line. Plus all shops and restaurants have A/C so it's not quite like a standard park. It makes it bearable.
As for the options...we MIGHT put down our 200 for the free DDP bounceback for Sept. 2009, but we might cancel based on what is allowed. I have heard several rumors about how the snack credits are going to be reduced- you get 2 snacks per day but if I can't use them at goofys candy company what's the good in them!? LOL!
Also, I have a feeling that even the CS options might take a hit. For example-Pepper market and cosmic rays havelong since been a great CS value. They might cut out the steak at pepper market or the chicken and ribs combo at cosmic rays. This is all just food for thought and a rumor though.
I'm gonna wait and see what happens come January.
Momto3Girls&Max
08-05-2008, 12:16 PM
We will probably skip staying onsite at WDW completely next year if it's only the QS option offered for free dining (if free dining is offered at all). We don't mind CS meals (not sure if we could eat all CS meals), but were able to justify paying rack rate because of the value the TS meals added to the deal (although this year was a stretch with the appetizer being gone and tips not included). That value is gone with the TS meals being gone. We will probably stay offsite in a condo or onsite at Universal.
We'll see what next year brings.
tina_la
08-06-2008, 02:23 AM
Went last year and LOVEd it :lovestruc .
This year ok deal and we decided to book.
If they only offer CS plan next year I don't think we will go. I don't want to eat CS the entire trip and I think I could get a better deal with a room rate discount. Also won't have to deal with the September heat and still go at a slow time of year.
asmit4
08-06-2008, 08:21 AM
I'm wondering if they are going to have a hard time selling the 'free DDP' this year with the CS plan? I know there are 10s of thousands of people that they can draw from but the consensus on the DIS seems to be that the CS plan is not reason enough to go in September. Ya think they will have people to fill those rooms?
I haven't found many that said they were planning on going next year due to the change.
tina_la
08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
I'm wondering if they are going to have a hard time selling the 'free DDP' this year with the CS plan? I know there are 10s of thousands of people that they can draw from but the consensus on the DIS seems to be that the CS plan is not reason enough to go in September. Ya think they will have people to fill those rooms?
I haven't found many that said they were planning on going next year due to the change.
I agree. It just isn't enough of a deal with paying full price for rooms. Now if you got a room discount in addition too but I don't see that happening. Maybe if they see a sharp decrease with bounce backs (if offered) they will change it when it goes to the general public. I would not mind the CS deal if I was paying for it for a long weekend but living as far as we do we go for at least a week to make it worth it for us. I could not stand eating CS for that long. Yes I could upgrade but with a family of 5 that adds up per day per person. Again that takes away from any type of savings we would have had. I am hopeful that Disney realizes this and will not offer CS as a free dining replacement. My family, who has gone the last two bouncebacks, will be skipping next year if they offer the CS plan as a replacement. You can only take away so much before it quits becoming a good deal and just becomes ehh :confused:.
Crisgw
08-06-2008, 08:43 PM
We have gone in Sept before but this is our first year doing FD. We'll go back next year regardless :) It's just a bonus for us!
mickey2000
08-06-2008, 08:49 PM
Another factor will be less seats on planes to Orlando with fares going through the roof!
1. Bad economy
2. Weak dollar
3. Cost of oil
4. Banks in touble
5. Tighter credit
6. Loss of jobs
and the list goes on ................
IMO Di$ney will feel the PAIN !!!
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kimbo0569
08-06-2008, 09:07 PM
I would love to go next year for free dining if they offer it again, especially since dh and I will be celebrating our 10th anniversary around the same time. Though I'm not sure dh will go for it. I was kind of joking around about the bounceback offer (provided it's offered to us) and he just kind of shook his head at me...:confused3
And we were talking about going out to Cali next summer for a week to spend a couple days with his oldest brother and therefore spending a couple days at DisneyLand, which is absolutely fine but I still prefer WDW over DL.
So time will tell......
eeyoregon
08-07-2008, 12:51 AM
(I've never been lucky enough to get a 40% code/pin).
Why is that? It sucks! We have been going to Disney once a year since 1998, always stay on property and book through Disney yet we have never received ANY kind of discount/PIN etc. in the mail. Do you have to sign up for some special website or something? How does everyone else get these codes??
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