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bluwater
07-30-2008, 12:43 PM
Ok, so we are here and having a good time. Parks are REALLY crowded - I mean more crowded than I remember for Easter 07. Fast passes for the most popular attractions are going, going, *gone* early in the afternoon. Lines are super-long. We walked into DHS at 10:30am yesterday and got FPs for Toy Story at 11:21....with a return time of 8:05 - 9:05pm!

All in all, we are still having lots of fun. I ran into a friend who I didn't know would be here with her daughter, who is friends with my DD...so we are hanging out.

I must say that we have had some very discouraging encounters with other visitors (non-Americans). One lady was taking a photo and my friend's daughter didn't see and walked in front of her - the lady got mad and actually HIT my friend's daughter - like a slap/push combo. My friend and I were watching from a distance...and watched the lady then start to go off - talking to her family about the girl who got into the photo. My friend's daughter is 14...she didn't say anything to the lady, but walked over to tell her mom. We had seen it all. We walked over to the lady and my friend asked the lady why she'd hit her daughter - and the lady said she didn't and that the daughter was "lying". At that point, I walked over and said that we'd seen it - and that she'd better not hit anybody's child here at Disney. Really - what was she thinking? So my friend showed her a fist and told her to do it again and see what happens (whoops!). And off we all went.

The day before, I had an encounter in Bugs Life with a lady (again, not from America) who decided to stop midway down the row and spread her arms out across the seats to hold them for her grown family members (no children in her party). She did this in the seat my daughter and I were about to sit in. I asked her to just move down a little so we could sit, but she wouldn't. Everyone else sat down...her party came and sat down...and my daughter squeezed into a spot....leaving me with no seat as I stood there is disbelief at this woman. I used my hips to inch in next to her (making it very uncomfortable for us both) - and I was sitting on top of the divider that separates the seats. I decided that I would ask for fastpasses to come back in and see it again since this show was not going to be enjoyed for my daughter or it being squished in. At the end, the lady got up and started dancing out of the theater - and I asked her if she was happy because she was going to go push more little kids out of the way...and she claimed not to understand English...but her grown daughter told me to shut up and go on. I told the CM, who said that was common, and gave us fastpasses to go right back in. It was then that I realized that this Disney vacation needs to be al little different - we need to be more aware of what is going on around us and watch people.

We have seem tons of people jumping lines, refusing to listen to CMs, just general bad, bad behavior. None of it from Americans. I don't know who Disney tolerates this. I do know that if this is typical of this time of year, we'll come another time. People are pushing ahead in lines, almost running each other down.

I wonder if anyone else finds that to be the case this time of year. Is this an annual problem?

And, no, it's not just Brazilians. My run-ins were with people from others countries - but not Brazil.

JustMickey
07-30-2008, 12:47 PM
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We have seem tons of people jumping lines, refusing to listen to CMs, just general bad, bad behavior. None of it from Americans. I don't know who Disney tolerates this. I do know that if this is typical of this time of year, we'll come another time. People are pushing ahead in lines, almost running each other down.

I wonder if anyone else finds that to be the case this time of year. Is this an annual problem?

And, no, it's not just Brazilians. My run-ins were with people from others countries - but not Brazil.

I have a hard time believing that NOT ONE American family acts like this. :rolleyes:

wendyinaustin
07-30-2008, 12:53 PM
My wish for you is that you will find some magical moments with friendly people from all over during the rest of your vacation in the most magical place in the world! pixiedust:

LisaInNc
07-30-2008, 12:55 PM
We walked over to the lady and my friend asked the lady why she'd hit her daughter - and the lady said she didn't and that the daughter was "lying". At that point, I walked over and said that we'd seen it - and that she'd better not hit anybody's child here at Disney. Really - what was she thinking? So my friend showed her a fist and told her to do it again and see what happens (whoops!).


You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.

Rora
07-30-2008, 12:56 PM
Oh geez.. I'm sorry about these bad experiences! I can't believe that woman actually hit your friends daughter?!?!?! Absolutely insane. I do not understand the lack of respect some have for others. I will be honest and say that I have witness this more with international guests, although there are many rude Americans who visit the World.

I hope you enjoy the rest of your time in the World and don't let these rude people get you down! :)
pixiedust:

GaSleepingBeautyFan
07-30-2008, 01:04 PM
I think July is a very tough time to be at WDW.

Too many people, squished in too small of a space and add the heat to it and you'll find alot of problems.

We try to go in June and it seems more sane then.

Sawx04
07-30-2008, 01:07 PM
The day before, I had an encounter in Bugs Life with a lady (again, not from America) who decided to stop midway down the row and spread her arms out across the seats to hold them for her grown family members (no children in her party).

When this happens to my family of five, we politely explain that we would like to follow the direction of the CMs to move to the end of the row and graciously attempt to avoid “accidentally” stepping on their toes. Unfortunately, in most cases this is unavoidable. :rolleyes1

TangaroaTiki
07-30-2008, 01:07 PM
We just returned two days ago from a magical week at the world. Yes, it was crowded :crowded:& yes, it was HOT :cool2: & yes, there were many, many foreign tour groups - but we encountered no problems whatsoever!! :sunny:

Your experience at WDW is what you make it!

MonkeyPants
07-30-2008, 01:17 PM
sorry to hear about the bad experience. WDW in the summer is torture IMO. The crowds, the heat, its crazy. Wasn't there so of course I dont know how I would have handled the situations.

However I have to say it always shocks me that people get upset if someone walks in a pciture they are trying to take especially if its in a main traffic area. Seriously the parks are loaded, half the time people dont even see that someone is trying to get a picture. Do they just expect the entire park to stop so they can get their phot op? I take pictures like crazy each time to go down. Heck bought a 4gb mem card and extra rechargable batteries for the last trip to ensure I didnt run out of 'film' If someone happened to walk into my shot..I just deleted the pic and took another. what am I suppoesed to do go off on a person because their kid walked in front of Devine while I was clicking off a picture?

WriteDisney
07-30-2008, 01:17 PM
I don't know about the non-American trouble makers, but it is simply unexcusable to hit anyone like that, especially such a young girl. That really is outrageous.

MonkeyPants
07-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I don't know about the non-American trouble makers, but it is simply unexcusable to hit anyone like that, especially such a young girl. That really is outrageous.

agreed....and curse you for starting your vacation 2 days before I start mine!!!! :lmao:

luvsJack
07-30-2008, 01:23 PM
Oh my goodness! People so need to learn a few manners!

Maybe the OP is saying that she just didn't notice this behavior coming from any Americans? Too, sometimes the culture of other countries makes the people seem very rude to us. I can't imagine anywhere that hitting a child is ok, though.

And I am pretty sure if a grown woman was to hit my daughter I would confront her too. It may not be the "right" thing to do, but it would be much better for me to confront her than dh!

A CM should have made the lady in Bug's Life move. I thought on our last visit one CM was in the theatre making sure everyone got seated and such. I guess sometimes it is hard for them to speak up too or to get their message across when they do.

OP, I hope the remainder of your trip is magical!

WriteDisney
07-30-2008, 01:25 PM
agreed....and curse you for starting your vacation 2 days before I start mine!!!! :lmao:


How about that? :goodvibes

Have to let Mickey know you'll be there soon! ::MickeyMo

MommaluvsDis
07-30-2008, 01:34 PM
2 years ago some friends and I made a "girls only" trip to WDW. We were first in line to be seated at a show. The doors opened up and as we were filing in, a boy that I'd say was around 8 or 9 ran into my elbow. He was trying to push his way thru to get to one of the many empty seats. He practically mowed us down.

I look at him and say, just to be polite, "oh, I'm sorry!" Usually this evokes a like response. We, the mother that was behind us with the rest of the family, started yelling at me for hitting her son because I was in such a hurry! Yeah lady, that's why your son is here with us and the rest of your family is behind us!

She was an American.

carol-lamb
07-30-2008, 01:44 PM
I think July is a very tough time to be at WDW.

Too many people, squished in too small of a space and add the heat to it and you'll find alot of problems.

We try to go in June and it seems more sane then.

I just posted something very similar in another thread. We just got back Monday night from a weeks visit. This was our first time going in July - we usually go in June. We are use to summer crowds and heat, but this trip seemed a little different. It was VERY crowded everyday in every park and there were tons of foreign visitors everywhere and it did seem kind of different. Not in a bad way, but weird. I remember waiting in line for Toy Story Mania and I just kind of zoned out from my family and started to really listen to all the talking going on around me and I realized that no one was speaking English. Brazilian tour groups were everywhere, but they were always well behaved and didn't bother me at all. I just wondered why they always stay together in one big group. My son and daughter have went with their marching bands over the years and they get to break up in their own group of friends. I was talking to a server at Tuskar House and she mentioned that she had served a group of around 200 Brazilians the day before and she said they stay together because most of them to not speak any English and they need their leaders to translate for them.

lustergirl
07-30-2008, 01:48 PM
on my last trip the first week of May I went solo. Going solo leaves you extra time to notice extra things. I noticed alot of strange behavior at its best. Next time I will go with family so I have less time- ha!!

cmash95
07-30-2008, 01:51 PM
the big thing that is keeping WDW afloat right now is foreign tourists. if it weren't for those foreigners, the parks would be empty. that's why they are making big cutbacks in the fall because they expect the parks to be empty except for the partys. and foreign tourists tend to be the rudest people I have met. THey are pushy and expect to be catered to and that they don't have to follow the rules. I have even seen them yell at cms when they were asked to move. I try to avoid the parks during july and late june because of it.

exwdwcm
07-30-2008, 01:54 PM
i think we often have a culture clash......folks handle things differently and behave differently. heck, even dress differently- i still remember a lady wearing this crazy thong panty with white see through pants speaking in french at the world. hey, it keeps life interesting.

i hope you have a better time and sorry about the kid getting hit, that was totally wrong. I know it is tempting to start a fight, make remarks etc. But sometimes, it is better to just walk away and enjoy your vacation. in this case, i might have found a CM and reported her.

but other cases (not involving hitting a child)----saying something to the person and holding up a fist usually won't help anyways.

i hate the line cutters, toe runner-overs with strollers (i have a stroller too!) and just rude folks, but hey, they are there. if you just ignore them to the best of your ability instead of trying to drag on an 'episode' then i think you will enjoy your vacation and have more fun.

don't sweat the small stuff. i used to try and always rush out of the test track preshow to be the first into line. now i just sit back. sure, i'll wait, what an extra minute? but it is better than be pushed and shoved. and my mom had words wiht pushing kids last time that pushed us. it just got her upset and in a bad mood for the rest of the day. now i sit back and just avoid what i can and try and not sweat it. let them be miserable and rude, i refuse to sink to that level on my vacation.

Clotho
07-30-2008, 01:56 PM
When this happens to my family of five, we politely explain that we would like to follow the direction of the CMs to move to the end of the row and graciously attempt to avoid “accidentally” stepping on their toes. Unfortunately, in most cases this is unavoidable. :rolleyes1

Us, too!! :) Hey, if you stop mid-row, expect people to have to push past you, and butts get in faces, toes get stepped on...you know...in the normal course of having to move past them. You want those center seats? PAY FOR EM! Heehee

I am sorry you experienced this OP. Fact is, people of ALL nationalities are equal opportunity rude! We Americans are NOT above being thoughtless, ignorant, and irritating. But regardless, I am sorry you're having a rough time of it. At DIsney, try to learn to laugh it off. As they say, "A Bad Day in Disney is Better Than Most Good Days in the Real World!" I know it's tempting to engage them and call them on their behavior, but really, people like that just feel egged on by your ire, and will continue to be jerks. It's not worth it to spoil your day.

RE: hitting your child (or friend's child), I would have found a CM right away!

penjen
07-30-2008, 01:56 PM
I used to try to stay out of other people's photos till I realized that they are the ones inconveniening everyone else. I don't purposely get in other's photos but I don't make a real effort to stay out of them anymore either.

wishtdream
07-30-2008, 01:58 PM
You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.

Do you let others discipline your children on a regular basis. I don't, I probably would have done more than shake my fist at anyone who dared touch my child. There is no way I would walk away. This person needs to be confronted by a police officer. Striking a child that is not yours is assault.

MinnieGirl33
07-30-2008, 02:03 PM
You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.

There is a huge difference between ignoring people who cut in line or stand on your heels or save parade spots & touching a child!

Let some strange person put their hands on one of my kids & let's see what happens.

My responsibility is to my children not the WDW PR Dept.

Jessfrogger88
07-30-2008, 02:17 PM
I am not a parrent but nobody deserves to be "pushed" on purpose especially someone so young who can't really stand up for themselves... I would have been upset and probably have acted the sameway if it was my child, girlfriend, sister, mother, brother, grandfather, niece, nephew, friend etc.....

That really should not be tolerated. Not saying you should have an all out brawl, but I couldn't let that go without at least making a comment...


Also as a former CM... Americans are as rude as everyone else TRUST ME!

sueh
07-30-2008, 02:28 PM
I think July is a very tough time to be at WDW.

Too many people, squished in too small of a space and add the heat to it and you'll find alot of problems.

We try to go in June and it seems more sane then.

I agree with this poster also being there 10 days ago I did encounter some rude behavior. I guess some fully do not understand the concept of standing in a line. I would standing in line with my 2 girls and there would be a family of 8 or so and a couple of the kids would try to sneak by us to get ahead and once they got the gate to get on the ride they would call the rest of the family up to be with them. It happened on more than one occasion.

willise
07-30-2008, 03:07 PM
and foreign tourists tend to be the rudest people I have met. THey are pushy and expect to be catered to and that they don't have to follow the rules. I have even seen them yell at cms when they were asked to move. I try to avoid the parks during july and late june because of it.

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement - to generalize the rest of the world, outside of the USA like that. I have been to WDW 14 times in the last decade or so, and I've seen confrontations as well. But they have never been limited to a nationality. I've seen American dad's yell at their daughter's in the parking lot, I've seen spankings from many nationalities, etc.

I am Canadian, so being a foreign tourist myself, I don't expect to be catered to, yell at CM's, or anything like that. I must be the only one I guess!

Sorry, but it just struck me as a comment that generalized anyone outside of the US, based on a couple of incidents.

Stitchfans
07-30-2008, 03:18 PM
You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.

I disagree with you here. There is no way I would ignore someone hitting my child. So be it- I'll end up on CNN as you say before I let someone lay a hand on my child. And what are the chances of finding a CM in time to take care of the problem? Nope I'd take care of it myself. I can put up with a lot of things but not that.

ntsammy5
07-30-2008, 03:22 PM
I have a hard time believing that NOT ONE American family acts like this. :rolleyes:

We do it all the time!

TSMAMI
07-30-2008, 03:28 PM
I have to say American or non-american I cannot count the number of times adults pushed my kids aside to get ahead of them in line as we were walking into the line. At first, I let it go, but as it kept happening I had to make it a point to say something. Come on grown men pushing a little boy out of the way to get ahead of him! I just say they must be that way all the time.

bavaria
07-30-2008, 03:35 PM
the big thing that is keeping WDW afloat right now is foreign tourists. if it weren't for those foreigners, the parks would be empty. that's why they are making big cutbacks in the fall because they expect the parks to be empty except for the partys. and foreign tourists tend to be the rudest people I have met. THey are pushy and expect to be catered to and that they don't have to follow the rules. I have even seen them yell at cms when they were asked to move. I try to avoid the parks during july and late june because of it.

Ah yes, we nasty foreigners who have the market on bad behaviour. And just yesterday people posted that they have never read such comments here.

Sadly, I am used to such statements on this website. No country has the market on rudeness, just as no country has the market on good behaviour.

I am somewhat surprised that OP was able to determine that the offenders were all non-Americans. I know many Americans who do not speak English when together as a family group, so unless a passport check was performed, it may be difficult to determine the nationality of various guests.

kapoof
07-30-2008, 03:37 PM
Sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement - to generalize the rest of the world, outside of the USA like that. I have been to WDW 14 times in the last decade or so, and I've seen confrontations as well. But they have never been limited to a nationality. I've seen American dad's yell at their daughter's in the parking lot, I've seen spankings from many nationalities, etc.

I am Canadian, so being a foreign tourist myself, I don't expect to be catered to, yell at CM's, or anything like that. I must be the only one I guess!

Sorry, but it just struck me as a comment that generalized anyone outside of the US, based on a couple of incidents.

i maybe sterotyping also but i have found the asian tourists to be among the most polite and respectful. we went this past march and saw alot of english and german tourist without pushing and shoving or hitting or line cutting or chanting. as for the south american groups... the things i have heard are so awful! :scared1: i'm sure some are very nice but it seems that they get more complaints then any other group.

melancholywings
07-30-2008, 03:47 PM
I would have taken the woman's picture then snagged a CM and confronted her with the possibility of pressing charges. Who's kid was she going to smack next?

stanmills34
07-30-2008, 03:57 PM
I agree 100% with you for fronting these rude people out they need to know and think about what there doing. At least we know they shouldn't have weapons..

sbell111
07-30-2008, 04:02 PM
One lady was taking a photo and my friend's daughter didn't see and walked in front of her - the lady got mad and actually HIT my friend's daughter - like a slap/push combo. My friend and I were watching from a distance...While it's not my intention to call the OP a liar, I am very sceptical. From a few feet away, I wonder if it woudn't be pretty easy to mistake a less-than-solid scootch for a slap/push. To that end, I think that many people in this thread need to perhaps ratchet down the angst level about three notches.

<Attention. Judgement ahead!>

I do think that the OP's references to references to 'non-Americans' speaks volumes and certainly colors my impressions of the entire post.

sbell111
07-30-2008, 04:03 PM
I agree 100% with you for fronting these rude people out they need to know and think about what there doing. At least we know they shouldn't have weapons..Can someone translate this for me?

Tio Marco
07-30-2008, 04:04 PM
When this happens to my family of five, we politely explain that we would like to follow the direction of the CMs to move to the end of the row and graciously attempt to avoid “accidentally” stepping on their toes. Unfortunately, in most cases this is unavoidable. :rolleyes1

LOL.....i was about to post the same thing!!!

ireland_nicole
07-30-2008, 04:11 PM
the big thing that is keeping WDW afloat right now is foreign tourists. if it weren't for those foreigners, the parks would be empty. that's why they are making big cutbacks in the fall because they expect the parks to be empty except for the partys. and foreign tourists tend to be the rudest people I have met. THey are pushy and expect to be catered to and that they don't have to follow the rules. I have even seen them yell at cms when they were asked to move. I try to avoid the parks during july and late june because of it.

Wow; interesting comment. I am an American but had the unusual opportunity to live and travel in Europe for 5 years. Let me tell you, there are many many times I have been grateful that I speak Spanish and enough French and Italian to get by, b/c there is a really good reason the term "Ugly American" has become popular. At least I have the option of speaking English in an Irish accent (thanks Dad and DH) or a native language. I would have been embarrassed to be known as an American after some of the things I have seen and heard. Horrible things said about people in English, assuming the "locals" couldn't understand, a sense of rude entitlement, constant complaints, etc. Obviously not all Americans are like this, but by the same logic, it is certainly not appropriate to "tar" all visitors with the same self righteous brush.

budbeerlady
07-30-2008, 04:13 PM
When this happens to my family of five, we politely explain that we would like to follow the direction of the CMs to move to the end of the row and graciously attempt to avoid “accidentally” stepping on their toes. Unfortunately, in most cases this is unavoidable. :rolleyes1

I hate it when that happens.... I have size 10 feet and its darn near impossible to squeeze these sleds past other peoples feet! :rotfl2:

I dont care where you are from, if they cm says move down the row, then MOVE DOWN!!!

litlpixie2
07-30-2008, 04:20 PM
OMG, the right thing to do if anyone slaps your kid, would be to find a CM to call security or the police. If it were my child, I would hope I could have a rational moment free enough to do the right thing, rather than ending up on CNN ("Hi Mom!":upsidedow ) I try to ignore things that annoy me at WDW at here in my real world....however, being from NY, everything annoys us here:rolleyes1

Lets all try to get along!!
Blessings!

-Penny

Willem
07-30-2008, 04:20 PM
I don't know if nationality had anything to do with the way people behave...

Anyway, we're non-American too and coming to WDW in 10 days (yeey!) but we'll try to behave ourselves. :)

LinzDada
07-30-2008, 04:39 PM
It's not that Americans don't act nasty or rude at Disney,they do....OFTEN.
I think that it's more noticeable when its a foreigner. Also, in my experience it's a different kind of rudeness. Almost like they own the place. Also, when an American acts up its kinda like when a member of your own family gets stupid. You wanna slap em on the head and tell them to sit down. But when its a foreigner I think the the tendancy is to think, wow, you came over to my house to act up? Hey, in my book jerk is jerk, no matter the nationality.

If you think Disney is bad, try Seaworld where the beer flows.

Have fun no matter what!

stanmills34
07-30-2008, 04:40 PM
letting someone know there doing something wrong..

DizzDoll
07-30-2008, 04:49 PM
I don't know if nationality had anything to do with the way people behave...

Anyway, we're non-American too and coming to WDW in 10 days (yeey!) but we'll try to behave ourselves. :)

I had the most wonderful time in Belgium in 2003. I took my kids, who were 10 and 12 at the time. We had gone on a tour of Bruge (spelled incorrectly, I think) and were wandering around enjoying the town. We had then gone for ice cream and were sitting eating it, and a lovely couple (Belgian) sat next to us and told us how wonderful it was to hear American voices again, and complimented me on my kids, and how well behaved they were. You live in a wonderful country, we enjoyed it very much, and look forward to returning. And you're 100% correct: it's NOT the nationality - it's the individuals.

karapp75
07-30-2008, 04:52 PM
You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.

While I agree that walking away would be wise in most situations, however, someone hit her child! Totally unacceptable. She should have talked to a CM but if someone hit one of my children on purpose believe me my husband and I would have something to say about it. We aren't the type that like confrontation, don't complain about bad meals in restaraunt and strongly believe in manners but sometimes you have to speak up. No one will protect your child but you.

tlens
07-30-2008, 04:53 PM
How do you know these people aren't American's? They could be American's with accents.

Moonpie
07-30-2008, 05:48 PM
When ever people don't move down the rows (as directed by CMs) we walk right by them (read as: gracefully squish by them, making sure they can read the label on my jeans). Also, if we happen to sneeze or cough (accidentally) in their direction, then it's completely not our fault!:rotfl:

Teacher03
07-30-2008, 05:59 PM
I think July is a very tough time to be at WDW.

Too many people, squished in too small of a space and add the heat to it and you'll find alot of problems.

We try to go in June and it seems more sane then.

I agree...we went one year in July and although we had fun, we enjoy June so much more.

Kazzy1548
07-30-2008, 06:55 PM
I don<t want to start a debate .... But I am Canadian a non-American and try to conduct myself when visiting the world. But I do agree that some other visitors are very rude . Disney needs to do something about it and not let them get away with their behaviors:sad2:

ton80
07-30-2008, 07:15 PM
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THEY HAVE DISNEY PARIS & TOKYO.
FOR THESE TYPES OF RUDE FOREIGNERS. AND I DO KNOW THAT AMERICANS ARE ALSO JUST AS RUDE,BUT OVERALL THE NON AMERICANS ARE MORE PUSHIER AND "FEEL ENTITLED" TO BE THERE AT THE PARKS AS IF THEY
OWN THEM !!!! :mad:




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dlawallace
07-30-2008, 07:23 PM
One time my son was playing in Poohs Thoughtful spot (he was 3) and a woman (american) grabbed him up by his little arm and got in his face and said "dont stand on the water spouts":eek:
I have never been so angry in my life! I went up to her and flung her hand off my little boy, and said "you dont touch my son!"
My blood was boiling!

trjme
07-30-2008, 08:01 PM
While waiting for the muppett attraction doors to open. I was talking with a guy from Alabama. This guy was kinda of big, plaid shirt, jeans (with plumber crack). Overall nice guy who was a bit country. We were sitting on the floor talking with our families for a while before the doors opened. Once they opened we were guided in and planned on sitting our famillies next to each other during the show. We started down the row and a group of people from who knows where stopped in the middle after being told to move all the way down. We didnt wait for them because we knew they werent moving. Anyway the big guy and his family were right ahead of me. He squezzed thru the people butt to face and when he got right by the first one he let one go and it lasted to the last person sitting there. I never laughed so hard in my life. Only problem was I had to go thru there but it was still funny as heck.

TwiddleDeeTwiddleDum
07-30-2008, 08:20 PM
While waiting for the muppett attraction doors to open. I was talking with a guy from Alabama. This guy was kinda of big, plaid shirt, jeans (with plumber crack). Overall nice guy who was a bit country. We were sitting on the floor talking with our families for a while before the doors opened. Once they opened we were guided in and planned on sitting our famillies next to each other during the show. We started down the row and a group of people from who knows where stopped in the middle after being told to move all the way down. We didnt wait for them because we knew they werent moving. Anyway the big guy and his family were right ahead of me. He squezzed thru the people butt to face and when he got right by the first one he let one go and it lasted to the last person sitting there. I never laughed so hard in my life. Only problem was I had to go thru there but it was still funny as heck.

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
If you've ever "tooted" on someone who wouldn't move to the last available seat.....You might be a redneck!

Moonpie
07-30-2008, 08:23 PM
While waiting for the muppett attraction doors to open. I was talking with a guy from Alabama. This guy was kinda of big, plaid shirt, jeans (with plumber crack). Overall nice guy who was a bit country. We were sitting on the floor talking with our families for a while before the doors opened. Once they opened we were guided in and planned on sitting our famillies next to each other during the show. We started down the row and a group of people from who knows where stopped in the middle after being told to move all the way down. We didnt wait for them because we knew they werent moving. Anyway the big guy and his family were right ahead of me. He squezzed thru the people butt to face and when he got right by the first one he let one go and it lasted to the last person sitting there. I never laughed so hard in my life. Only problem was I had to go thru there but it was still funny as heck.

:lmao:

HolliePoppins
07-30-2008, 08:40 PM
While waiting for the muppett attraction doors to open. I was talking with a guy from Alabama. This guy was kinda of big, plaid shirt, jeans (with plumber crack). Overall nice guy who was a bit country. We were sitting on the floor talking with our families for a while before the doors opened. Once they opened we were guided in and planned on sitting our famillies next to each other during the show. We started down the row and a group of people from who knows where stopped in the middle after being told to move all the way down. We didnt wait for them because we knew they werent moving. Anyway the big guy and his family were right ahead of me. He squezzed thru the people butt to face and when he got right by the first one he let one go and it lasted to the last person sitting there. I never laughed so hard in my life. Only problem was I had to go thru there but it was still funny as heck.

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
If you've ever "tooted" on someone who wouldn't move to the last available seat.....You might be a redneck!


:rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl: :worship: :lmao: :rotfl:

dwaters
07-30-2008, 08:48 PM
While waiting for the muppett attraction doors to open. I was talking with a guy from Alabama. .......... He squezzed thru the people butt to face and when he got right by the first one he let one go and it lasted to the last person sitting there. I never laughed so hard in my life.


Now THAT is what I'd call Southern Justice!!! :rotfl2:

(In "It's Tough to Be a Bug" that would be a sneak preview of the stink bug.
or "squeak preview")

sbell111
07-30-2008, 08:53 PM
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THEY HAVE DISNEY PARIS & TOKYO.
FOR THESE TYPES OF RUDE FOREIGNERS. AND I DO KNOW THAT AMERICANS ARE ALSO JUST AS RUDE,BUT OVERALL THE NON AMERICANS ARE MORE PUSHIER AND "FEEL ENTITLED" TO BE THERE AT THE PARKS AS IF THEY
OWN THEM !!!! :mad: Are there enough ironic smilies in the entire internet to make that statement acceptable?

PEANUT1
07-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Can someone translate this for me?

I believe this means confronting, or standing up to someone.

kaytieeldr
07-30-2008, 08:58 PM
and foreign tourists tend to be the rudest people I have met. THey are pushy and expect to be catered to and that they don't have to follow the rules.Sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement - to generalize the rest of the world, outside of the USA like that. Sorry, willise - but you're an American :) so the generalizations/observations made here don't apply to you (Canada is part of North America :teeth:

I did just want to point out that not all people with accents, or even people who don't (or claim they don't) speak English are necessarily foreigners. Sure, they were at one time - but they could EASILY be U.S. citizens.

Can someone translate this for me? Translate? Who do you think you are - bavaria? :umbrella: But seriously - maybe that poster meant "calling these rude people out"? Or, yeah, I wrote this before I saw PEANUT1's response - I bet she's right.

Dancemom
07-30-2008, 09:05 PM
We just returned from the world on Sunday. Yes it was crowded, hot, and there were lots of tour groups. But we always go in June or July so we know what to expect. We had a great time and did not run into any rude behavior. I have encountered rude people in the past and it can be aggrevating. If someone purposely hits your child I would immediately find a cm and ask for security.

iluvdizknee
07-30-2008, 09:06 PM
We just got home from 2weeks in wdw. I really am not a mean or prejudice person but....OMG if I see one more tour group that speaks ( I hate to say it spanish) I am going to scream. On line for every ride they had to chant and sing...in the haunted mansion, small world, omg is was getting soooo annoying. They pretend to not understand english and what they are doing, but they do, dont fool yourselves. Pushing in line, cutting
The best was I saw 2 young girls go up to the fastpass guy in RRC and say "we really want to go on this, do you have any passes,,,we dont understand english good, How do you do fastpass:
That CM handed them 2 passes he had in his pocket....I was sooo mad!

joenan88
07-30-2008, 09:08 PM
Is WDW packed with foreign tour groups in August, as well? I have been to Disney in November and January and never experienced huge tour groups..I do not care if they are in WDW...I just can not deal with the line cutting..that's when I draw the line and my NY attitude comes out..I do not care if you are from California or Turkey..don't cut my family on line!

Mrs. Pookie
07-30-2008, 09:08 PM
When this happens to my family of five, we politely explain that we would like to follow the direction of the CMs to move to the end of the row and graciously attempt to avoid “accidentally” stepping on their toes. Unfortunately, in most cases this is unavoidable. :rolleyes1

Ah, so I'm not the only one who does this.:rotfl2:

ton80
07-30-2008, 09:12 PM
We just got home from 2weeks in wdw. I really am not a mean or prejudice person but....OMG if I see one more tour group that speaks ( I hate to say it spanish) I am going to scream. On line for every ride they had to chant and sing...in the haunted mansion, small world, omg is was getting soooo annoying. They pretend to not understand english and what they are doing, but they do, dont fool yourselves. Pushing in line, cutting
The best was I saw 2 young girls go up to the fastpass guy in RRC and say "we really want to go on this, do you have any passes,,,we dont understand english good, How do you do fastpass:
That CM handed them 2 passes he had in his pocket....I was sooo mad!

SOO TRUE SOME "FOREIGNERS" THINK THEY SHOULD NOT WAIT IN LINE !

Lilogirl
07-30-2008, 09:14 PM
SOO TRUE SOME "FOREIGNERS" THINK THEY SHOULD NOT WAIT IN LINE !

Some American's think that.:3dglasses

CanadianGuy
07-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Moving to the Community Board.

Thanks,

Knox

kaffinito
07-30-2008, 09:17 PM
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THEY HAVE DISNEY PARIS & TOKYO.
FOR THESE TYPES OF RUDE FOREIGNERS. AND I DO KNOW THAT AMERICANS ARE ALSO JUST AS RUDE,BUT OVERALL THE NON AMERICANS ARE MORE PUSHIER AND "FEEL ENTITLED" TO BE THERE AT THE PARKS AS IF THEY
OWN THEM !!!! :mad:

You are kidding, right? :confused3

Lynn5700
07-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Umm ok first of all if I saw another woman or man hit/shove my kid you bet I am going to grab a CM and confront this woman...I am sorry but there is no way I would let that go and say oh I have to be the better person and not confront this person.

Op I can not believe that you witnessed this...that is absloutely insane. Did your friend talk to a CM about this or ask for security or something....that is just so not cool. Regardless if she didn't hurt your friends daughter or not.it does not give her a right to pur her hands on somebody else's kid. If I was there and saw that I would even freak on that crazy woman!!!!!

OP did the woman like cause a scene? I just can't imagine people seeing that happen and not gasping..or did you guys just notice it? DId this woman hurt your friends daughter? How hard was this shove?

vcgirl925
07-30-2008, 09:50 PM
You don't think that behavior is part of the problem?

Why confront her, just walk away and enjoy your day. It takes TWO people for a confrontation.

If her behavior was truely threatening then you should have asked a CM to contave Disney security because what you did is exactly how fights that end up on CNN get started.


Are you serious? I'm all for turn the other cheek if it's something small or trivial, but someone else laying a hand on my child?!?? No way in hell. I would have had them ejected from the park.

vcgirl925
07-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Also why isn't it ok for the OP to have an opinion on her personal experience at disney world? She isn't saying all foreigners are awful disgusting rude human beings. She is just saying that with her experience right now at disney world she is seeing a lot of rudeness and she's witnessing it from foreigners.

Mama of Indybride
07-31-2008, 12:08 AM
I have been in the position where I have been run down by people trying to go somewhere at the world.

I turn to them and say we are all going to the same place, and getting there about the same time. There is no need to be rude about it.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes they don't realize.

I do know when I lived in Hawaii, and we would have visitors from other parts of the world where there is much less space, they were accustomed to being much closer to others, and what we would consider pushing and shoving for them was considered getting where you needed to go.

They would have so many more people per square foot than we, and it was just their culture.

Not that it wasn't irritating. But I learned how to use extra body space around me with slightly extended arms to protect my daughters!

bavaria
07-31-2008, 02:22 AM
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THEY HAVE DISNEY PARIS & TOKYO.
FOR THESE TYPES OF RUDE FOREIGNERS. AND I DO KNOW THAT AMERICANS ARE ALSO JUST AS RUDE,BUT OVERALL THE NON AMERICANS ARE MORE PUSHIER AND "FEEL ENTITLED" TO BE THERE AT THE PARKS AS IF THEY
OWN THEM !!!! :mad:



Ah, believe me - I have seen many many rude people in Paris and DLRP over the years. Many of them. Several stand out in my mind for their shocking behaviour.

However, none of them had a European accent. Most of them appeared to be from North America, or chose to loudly announce that.

Again, these generalizations are simply offensive to those of us outside the US who have seen how 'foreign travellers' act abroad. I try and not comment because I try and respect that most readers here are American. But to paint others with such a broad brush reflects more on the person doing the painting than the person being painted.

bavaria
07-31-2008, 02:25 AM
I did just want to point out that not all people with accents, or even people who don't (or claim they don't) speak English are necessarily foreigners. Sure, they were at one time - but they could EASILY be U.S. citizens

Just as many 'foreigners' speak perfect English. But then, you probably struggle to understand me when I speak, don't you? ;) My apologies if I ever offended you with my shocking foreign behaviour when we were together!

Willem
07-31-2008, 02:38 AM
I had the most wonderful time in Belgium in 2003. I took my kids, who were 10 and 12 at the time. We had gone on a tour of Bruge (spelled incorrectly, I think) and were wandering around enjoying the town. We had then gone for ice cream and were sitting eating it, and a lovely couple (Belgian) sat next to us and told us how wonderful it was to hear American voices again, and complimented me on my kids, and how well behaved they were. You live in a wonderful country, we enjoyed it very much, and look forward to returning. And you're 100% correct: it's NOT the nationality - it's the individuals.

Thanks! Glad you liked our tiny country. Let's hope those politicians don't destroy it with their stupid language debate.

Willem
07-31-2008, 02:41 AM
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY THEY HAVE DISNEY PARIS & TOKYO.
FOR THESE TYPES OF RUDE FOREIGNERS. AND I DO KNOW THAT AMERICANS ARE ALSO JUST AS RUDE,BUT OVERALL THE NON AMERICANS ARE MORE PUSHIER AND "FEEL ENTITLED" TO BE THERE AT THE PARKS AS IF THEY
OWN THEM !!!! :mad:


I hope you're joking. :eek:
I've always believe Disney should be home for everyone...
BTW I visited Tokyo Disney last year and never saw so well behaved people and a park clean like that.

Zeebs
07-31-2008, 02:57 AM
There is absolutely no excuse to strike anyone and I certainly do not condone that, regardless of customs from any culture..... when in rome and all.

I am horrified at the mindset of some people on here that America should be for only Americans, (Disney Tokoyo and Paris were not built to keep the foreigners out of America.)

Rude people are everywhere and the majority of it is lack of education and understanding. Maybe the family of non speaking english people sat in the middle of the bugs life theatre really didn't understand the CM when he said to move to the end of the line?????

I have been to plenty of temples etc on my quest to learn more about the world and have seen many a person not respecting the cultural requirements of covering their shoulders, heads, taking shoes off etc.

The Sistine chapel is a place of worship it doesn't stop many people talking and taking photos just after being told in many languages not to some people just don't care and they can be of any nationality. I am not a follower of any religion but because the customs are important to others I try to adhere to them.

Maybe if some people stopped using the World Showcase as their only experience of the world they would see that every one is different and while it might not be how you do it at "home" it might be how it is done in someone elses "home".

I doesn't matter how much reading about a destination you do you will never learn all the customs. Going seeing and learning from "natives" helps a lot.

I am very much looking forward to my trip to WDW and have been very lucky in my trips to America in the past that I have run into Americans that like the fact that they meet foreigners in America so I am hoping for the same on this trip.

So if you hear a women speaking in a New Zealand accent to a man and children with British accents, say hello we are really quite friendly and like to meet new people of all cultures and walks of life.

Kirsten

kaytieeldr
07-31-2008, 05:37 AM
Just as many 'foreigners' speak perfect English. But then, you probably struggle to understand me when I speak, don't you? My apologies if I ever offended you with my shocking foreign behaviour when we were together! Were it not for you stating that you are a native of a country other than the United States, I would never have known. To everyone else: bavaria speaks better English than many U.S. residents.

Buckeyemouse
08-01-2008, 11:45 AM
Well stated Zeebs!:thumbsup2