View Full Version : Has anyone ever had a child stolen at WDW?
Mooobooks
04-13-2002, 10:43 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a child being stolen at Walt Disney World?
No, and every lost child story I've read has had a happy ending. I do think there are some urban legends circulating and perhaps it has really happened and I just never heard about it. I'm sure it would make the national news if it happened (at least, it would if I were the parent!)
Dr. Happy
04-14-2002, 11:14 AM
I have heard that they (Disney security) seal off multiple exits and then closely scrutinize those people leaving the parks through the available exits. I have also heard horror "stories" (I'm not sure if they are real) about children having their clothes changed and hair dyed before they are taken out of the parks. I'm not sure if any of this has actually happened. All I can say is I don't want it to happen to me...
:(
crisi
04-14-2002, 12:01 PM
No
http://www.snopes2.com/disney/parks/parks.asp#kidnap
Aristocats2
04-14-2002, 12:59 PM
There are some stories circulating out there, but as LKS has said, they are just urban legends ... there is no truth to them. We took the Keys to the Kingdom tour a couple of years ago, and the CM who led the tour told us that there has never been a child stolen from WDW, and as far as he knew, there had never even been any attempt made. Disney security are extremely perceptive and on the lookout for anything suspicious; they have occasionally stopped people on the way out of the parks with crying/screaming children, only to discover that the children are in fact theirs, they just don't want to leave! Make no mistake: there are TONS of Disney security people in the parks, and many of them you would not even recognise as security ... but if they were needed, they'd be there in an instant.
Dr. Happy
04-14-2002, 01:00 PM
Crisi,
I'm sorry to say that the link you provided doesn't seem very credible to me. Was that supposed to ease a person's mind that all they do is merely refute the topic?????
I would be more comfortable with FBI stats, real corporate data, Florida crime stats, but not some questionable website.
It still stands that it is entirely possible that a kidnapper could spirit away a child if they wanted to...
:confused:
crisi
04-14-2002, 01:07 PM
Snopes is a very reputable source for urban legends - and the FBI isn't going to break out abductions by location. But you are welcome to do your own googling, if you find evidence that it has ever happened, Snopes will change its link.
Can it happen - sure. Has it happened? There is no evidence that any child has ever been abducted for a Disney theme park.
Was that site meant to ease your mind? No. Just quash the rumor that people change your kids appearance and smuggle them out of the park. In my experience, parents worried about abduction don't have their minds eased no matter how many JD stats and cites I throw at them showing that stranger abduction is rare.
Kermit
04-14-2002, 01:19 PM
I think we would all know about it if it had happened. It would make headlines everywhere.
Realistically, if you want to kidnap a child, you're going to go somewhere where lots of people aren't watching.
Dr. Happy
04-14-2002, 01:36 PM
Corporations always seek to control the environment around them, including the information that is made available to present and future clients...
To think that we would always know when and if it happened seems absolutely unplausable to me.
The fact is we wouldn't always know if something adverse happened at WDW. Case in point, I witnessed a horrific accident on Peter Pan's Magic Flight a few years ago. A very heavy woman lost her balance on the moving sidewalk at the loading area, fell, and banged her head firmly against the pointed tip of the side of the boat. She bled profusely, was rushed away by EMTs and was not conscious at the time she was taken to hospital. Injuries occur so regularly at WDW we certainly don't hear about them. Likely, we would not hear about attempted abductions, either.
To be so trusting is folly in this day and age. Best bet - expect the worse and prepare for the worse and you won't be surprised...
:cool:
Talking Hands
04-14-2002, 02:39 PM
No, not stolen. Had one run away though. Now that was a mess. One of our 5th graders on a field trip. Disney security found her and she was handed over to our principal, who handed her over to parents when we arrived back in Miami and swore the kid would never go on another field trip with our school.
Tay N Evie's Mom
04-14-2002, 10:35 PM
My park district just had a family fun fair Saturday and our police were doing free kids id-picture, name and address, finger prints, medical conditions and distinguishing marks. I've always wanted to get this done for my kids. After they handed them to me I thought "These would be great to take on our upcoming trip to WDW and DCL". If my kids did get lost or stolen at the park I probably wouldn't have a picture with me and I'd be too upset to remember what they have on or what hand DS has his birthmark on.
One other thing to consider before you go-my MIL was at Kmart just before Christmas when she found a little girl-age 3-4 -lost in the store. MIL took her to the customer service desk. This little girl didn't know her mom's name. After that I taught my 4 year old twins their full names, address, phone # and mom & dad's full names.
Is there anyone out there on these boards who would accept Disney's "hush money" not to report their child's abduction to the media? I don't think so!
Anyway, just because it hasn't happened is no reason to be less than vigilant in supervising your children at a major theme park!
chancellor
04-15-2002, 12:48 PM
It's easy to "cover up" an injury claim; you simply offer the injured person a bunch of money and include a confidentiality clause in the settlement agreement. A kidnapping, on the other hand, would be completely different. I would think anybody in that situation would be all over the local and national news pleading for the return of their child. The only conceivable way it could get covered up would be if the child was recovered so quickly it didn't have time to hit the news. But even then, law enforcement would be notified immediately, and I'm fairly sure the local papers monitor the police scanners at WDW just looking for stuff like this. The Orlando Sentinel would be all over it.
If nobody knows of a publicized story of a kidnapping at WDW, I doubt it's ever happened.
WDW2002
04-15-2002, 11:40 PM
I believe that no child has ever been kidnapped (stolen) at WDW but that does not mean that it couldn't happen. I would take every precation to prevent it, just as I would anywhere else. Disney may feel like a second home to some of us but that doesn't mean to let your gaurd down.
I think that you should be careful if you have an overly friendly child, who might just walk away with someone else.
Two years ago my best friend had her inlaws take her daughter to MK. Well, she was lost (2 years old) for 45 mintues! They finally tracked her down in the the baby center where she was coloring with all the other lost kids! I had heard about WDW closing all the gates, blah, blah, blah. Now I knwo that isn't possbile. Just like anyplace else, you really have to watch your kids! That's a big part of the reason, I still make mine sit in the stroller. The Target store I go to (5 minutes from my house) used to be the Sears store from which Adam Walsh was taken back in 1980.
Dr. Happy
04-17-2002, 07:18 AM
Susy, that's so scary!!
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zurgswife
04-17-2002, 07:20 AM
I also think that any kidnapping from the parks would be national news immediatley....I also believe that anything about kidnappings are Urban Legends.....
I also put a sticker on my child with our cell # that says "in case lost please call"
then, "cell phone #__________". I know he looks silly with this on him (it's very obvious), but I don't care. It makes me feel more at ease. If he's lost, hopefully a CM (or anyone else) would get to a phone and call us immediately to let us know he's okay. the CM's told my friend's in-laws that Disney has people that walk around just for the purpose of finding lost kids and bringing them to the lost and found. Can anyone confirm this???
Disneyphile's Wife
04-17-2002, 10:20 AM
Never heard of a child being stolen, but I know of one who wandered away from his family (my DS, at 4). Big store at AK, multiple exits, multiple adults and DH and DBiL both thought he was with the other. After a couple of minutes (when we realized he was really missing), we notified CMs at the store and continued looking. After he was found, DM was told by a CM when she asked her that he had been found.
A man and woman in normal "guest" clothing had found him. They kept in the area, because they didn't want him freaking out by removing him from the area (although I suspect that if it had taken much longer, they would have taken him to Guest Relations), and continued looking for the child's parents. When my DH saw them, they chatted with him for several minutes, about DS, and said goodbye and everthing went back to normal
DH noticed these same people later--with CM badges. He then realized that the "chatting" was them confirming that DH and DS really did belong together. It was then that we realized how much security is actually out in the parks. It certainly makes me feel better.
Jen D
04-18-2002, 12:20 AM
I don't find the comparison of a woman getting a head injury on the Haunted Mansion to a child getting abducted very convincing. While I'm sure the accident was upsetting, it is hardly news. WDW is a big place, accidents do happen, and there isn't really a villain. The abduction or attempted abduction os a child huge news everywhere. I live in a major media market where the newscast covers a tri-state area of 12 million people, and any story involving the abduction or attempted abduction of a child is huge news. If anything happened at Disney, you could hardly miss it.
Snopes is a very reliable website that refutes urban myths, as Crisi said. It is also a very popular website. If their report was incorrect, someone would have, by now, presented a link to the news story, or a copy of the police report, that supports these myths. Nothin'.
As the website notes, scarelore is around to remind people to do what they should be doing-- looking after their kid, and covering all the bases. But that doesn't excuse the fearmongering. Some people love to believe the worst and stories like this feed that.
Dr. Happy
04-18-2002, 06:29 AM
some posters who think Snopes is the epitomy of news excellence...
I think I'm a little more critically thinking than that. I'll use my own sources, thank you, but you are free to believe whatever bunk there is on the 'net...
Apart from that, please feel free to use any amount of catchy phrases you like, including "urgan legands."
Having been in law enforcement for 17 years in my prior career, I will withhold my trust in your spoken word...
;)
Dr. Happy,
If you have any sources that say a child was kidnapped, we definitely want to know. That was the point of the thread. Do you know that there was a kidnapping or attempted kidnapping? Your posts read as if you do, but you haven't told us about it yet. If this is really happening, we all want to know.
crisi
04-18-2002, 09:41 AM
Dr. Happy,
And we are going to believe you, who have offered no evidence AT ALL to the contrary. You, too are a stranger on the internet. We would be happy to evaluate any evidence you have that a child has ever been kidnapped from Disney. So far you haven't provided any. If you choose not to believe Snopes, fine. But you need to provide some contrary evidence. The FBI stats you asked me for would be nice - a newspaper article - a person who claims it happened to them (with contact information, first and last name and city - not the friend of a friend that urban legends feeds on).
We are all more than happy to say "It could happen." No one is dumb enough to believe it can never happen. You just need to provide evidence that it has happened. Which is the point of this thread.
ABCMom
04-18-2002, 02:53 PM
Once again I would like to remind posters that this is not the debate board.
I don't think we need to debate the fact that children need to be watched carefully at WDW, or your local shopping mall, or any where else you take them out in public, for that matter. We could also debate for many days the level of measures taken by WDW to prevent such an event from occuring or what they might or might not do in the event that it did happend. However, unless you have had first hand experience with this - as an employee or victim - I imagine it is like many other aspects of the Disney company, and the details are not meant for general knowledge.
However, the point remains that the original question was whether or not someone has had a child kidnapped at WDW. Unless this has happened to you directly or you are able to offer some actual proof that such an event has or has not actually occurred, please refrain from making vague references.
kidagain
04-18-2002, 11:16 PM
making these boards the "Politically Correct Everyone Always Agrees With Everyone Else" boards. That would seem a little boring to me. As long as we keep off the personal put-downs, then I'm all for telling someone their opinion is full of hooey if that's the way I feel. Anyone care to disagree? Please?:D
Spinning
04-19-2002, 07:04 AM
I truly don't feel any child has been stolen from WDW if that means I live in a bubble so be it! But if it did happen it would be all over the news. Granted Disney would want it hushed and probably do what ever possible to keep it quiet but what parent would accecpt hush money over finding their kids.
Do I think it is possible to have your kid stolen at Disney you betcha! No way do I feel I can just let the kid run free and not keep my eye on them at all times. To me it is just like any other place in the world. Preditors are there. Sad we have to worry about that even in the happiest place in the world but we do and I will worry and watch no matter what.
Even if and I do say if, it was perfectly safe I still wouldn't want to get seperated from my kid our son was 'missing" for maybe 4 minutes at Dinoland. I forgot the bridge over to the digging pit and he was suppose to come down the slide and didn't, his sister came down the slide, but no brother. I paniced DH stayed at the slides, grandparents at the exits...I started looking all over for him, got a cast member who was great, just asked ??? and then went to call..needless to say my son came bouncing over happy as can be! I just picked him up and started to cry...all he said mom I was just up top! So he wasn't lost in his mind but let me tell you for that short period of time all kinds of thoughts ran through my mind!
ABCMom
04-19-2002, 07:37 AM
I am locking this thread because it seems to be unable to stay on topic.
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